We've been killing them every single day. New recruits pop up as fast as we can terminate them.
If you really think about it, there really is no viable solution. We're making grounds in gaining occupied territories, but new ones pop up.. or they go in hiding, only to surface later on. If we somehow, by miracle, defeat ISIS, a new group will emerge. Al Qaeda are still around. The Taliban are still active, etc..
We all know sure as shit there's going to be more terror attacks in Europe, as well as the U.S. Absolutely nothing can be done to prevent these from happening. We might foil their plans, but these plans are infinite in the foreseeable future.
There's no solution.
The good news is you're much more likely to get hit by lightning than being a victim in a terrorist attack. Until they come up with an ultimate biological or nuclear weapon(s) anyway, which I think is highly likely considering the advancement of technology and information that are available to the masses.
We used to be good at insurgencies.
>>77173917
There is this one outdated lan, it kinda worked b4 with little modification can be used again.
Does anyone have that screen shot that has the total number of extreamist attacks and deaths ranging from Christians to Sunnis?
>>77173917
Maybe if we stopped fucking up their countries...
Just a THOUGHT
Al Qaeda and the Taliban may still be somewhat active, but they are hardly the organizations they used to be. Nearly a decade of bombing them to shit did more than you think it did.
>>77173917
>There's no solution
If Israel did never existed, would never exist terrorism, now is too late.
>>77173917
Now hold on just a minute, I was looking around and it seems we do still have one solution left.
>ONE
>FINAL
>SOLUTION
>>77173917
It's a cultural and population issue, both of which removing is considered genocide. So, I guess they are just there to stay forever.
>>77173917
When you realise that the US is funding these groups it'll all make sense. They're bogeymen. Al Qaeda lost its scare factor and the wars in the middle east seemed to be coming to a close, and whoop de doo, ISIS OY VEY. Ten more years of defense spending, oil and false flag terror attacks. Ten more years before the petrodollar will be threatened again. (Gaddafi and his gold dinar being the last time)
And to answer your thread more precisely: Islamic terrorism exists because the West needs it to. It didn't exist in Syria until Syria became a target of the West. There is no solution to it when nobody really wants it gone. How else will they keep the world in a constant state of fear, to further push their globalist agenda.
There's a solution it's just not acceptable for first world democratic nations. You have to go Roman Empire on their asses, which we're not willing to do.
The solution is exterminatus of muslims, THAT'S IT.
>>77174166
We started fucking up their countries in 1095, they started fucking up ours some time in the 7th century. Enough with the "peaceful Muslims" myth already. They drew first blood, it's only right that we claim last.
>>77174261
nah most of them defected to ISIS
we kill ISIS next, and they will either go back to their Al-Qaeda/ Taliban, or some new group.
>We should never have invaded Iraq
>We should never have supported the Arab Spring
>>77173917
A ban on muslim immigration?
>>77174517
There is 2.5 billions of muslim, you retard.
>>77174430
Unfortunately I feel this poster is correct. These organizations existing is good for the crazy fucks that run this country.
>>77174166
we better not elect hillary then
>>77173917
They have been killing each other for thousands of years and we thought we could stop it with a lukewarm war that lasts a couple decades? The flaw was thinking that we as an outside force could change them, change must come from within.
What we can do is quarantine them.
>>77174378
This. When in doubt always rely on the wisdom of the Führer.
The only solution is to wipe them all out, and Hitler ruined genocide for the rest of us.
Well with the diversity meme fully in place in the west, it is just going to get worse. More Muslims means more radicalisation which leads to more killings.
It's very simple, the west is in full denial of what they are dealing with here and is infected with the thought process of self loathing due to sins of the past regarding colonisation.
Expect brownskin numbers to rise, expect death.
>>77173917
There is a solution. Christianity is the answer. The government needs to be funding evangelicals. Islam is the problem not Muslims. Islam breeds evil.
>>77173917
I remember Oppenheimer coming up with a solution
>>77174630
SO BE IT
>>77173917
We can always tackle the root of the problem and stop supporting Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
>>77173917
There are solutions, they're just not palatable.
For instance, if you really don't care about how many heads you roll, you can simply salt the earth and ban immigration from Muslim nations.
If you care about keeping some semblance of civility, and democracy, you can install local governments that will use brutal force in putting down their opposition. Like the Middle East used to have.
If you don't want the civility/democracy, but don't want to salt the earth, you can occupy the nations and create puppet states to enact your will.
If you want the most morally righteous solution, you'd have to bring economic progress and good institutions to the region, but that would have been best done one hundred years ago.
>>77173917
Keep them out of our country.
Kill invaders.
Leave earth eventually.
Exterminatus.
>>77174689
they're ultimately going to win unless something very dramatic changes
>>77174737
How exterminate 2.5 billions of people? Praying for a meteor hit the Earth?
>>77174824
>salt the earth and ban immigration from muslim countries
OH yeah, like western countries would lose out on so much by banning mudslimes.
>>77174933
>>77173917
stop talking about it.
what's going on in the middle east is more of a civl/guerilla war.
reporting it here motivates radical sympathisers and increases tensions on normal muslims for no gain.
get on turkey and saudi arabia etc about funding
get off iran and syrias backs when they're fighting isis.
consider everyone who fits a profile who's been to turkey in the past 5 years as a possible terrorist.
mostly just keep calm and carry on.
>>77173917
There is. Japan = 0 snackbarring. Poland= 0 snackbarring. Hungary = 0 snackbarring. You know why?
>>77174958
That's not really my argument at all.
If Islam is a sinking ship, you still have to decide whether or not to pick up swimmers.
>>77174824
>If you don't want the civility/democracy, but don't want to salt the earth, you can occupy the nations and create puppet states to enact your will.
That's what we have been doing, it's not working
>>77173917
Yes there is.
Absolute brutality. It's the only language they understand. Whatever ISIS is capable of, whites can and HAVE done 100x worse. ISIS videos don't hold a candle to the torture methods devised by whites. We're on top for a reason.
We need to slaughter them like dogs. Torture their families until they surrender themselves to us, torture them as well - just for fun. We need to kill all of them - 100% annihilation. Men, women, children, I don't give a fuck. Wipe them clean from the face of the planet, and spit on their graves.
That's how you win.
> Kill weeds
> More weeds show up
Well guys I guess we better stop farming.
Seriously though, human history has always been pockets of civilization fighting against hordes of barbarians.
>>77173917
There is a solution, but nobody is willing to kill that many innocent people.
>>77174916
Yet "they" aren't even the real enemy. They're dirt poor opportunists moving to Western countries because said countries allow them to. I don't believe they're moving to actually "invade", but when you have lax laws in place that allow them to shape their new home in ways that resemble their home country, they will be sure to do so.
The solution would be a state that regulates immigration properly. Impossible with liberals, and behind liberals, the eternal you-know-whos.
I'm pretty sure if we just fuck off in the region, it will slowly go away. either that, or we have to bomb them into oblivion
this half assed approach is fucking our shit up
>>77174933
give us a few months
>>77175122
all shitholes or dying or defeated former Soviet or American sattelite puppet states
>>77175196
>It's not working
It was working during the Cold War when one of these nations falling meant it fell to the opposition.
>>77174525
what an intelligent way of telling us you have no understanding of the situation at all
>>77173917
Actually, there is a final solution.
You can contain them.
How big a threat was Islamic terrorism in the West before the 1965 immigration act?
How many Muslims were in the US, Canada or Europe back in the 1960's?
The lie the liberals tell you is that Radical Islam happened because of Western foreign policies, which is only partially true, they never touch upon the fact that massive Islamic immigration into the West have only happened within the last 30 or so years.
The best option is to contain them by not letting them into your country in the first place, and hope that you can stop the radicals already in your country and assimilate the moderates.
>>77175255
Nah, we don't need any of this expensive troublesome shit. Just deport and strengthen the borders. What Hitler should have done to the Jews as originally planned tbqh.
>>77173917
just stop giving them money. It's all your fault btw; all the way from al-quaeda.
>>77175333
does that mean abandoning israel
>>77175275
Worked for japan, if the US would have done it after 9/11 they could have been a thriving country by now
>>77175186
More like Islam is a giant cancerous mold that should be Quarantined
>>77175255
they want to complain to whites about atrocities lets give them some
>>77175344
Japan has a better standard of living than France. Poland and Hungary will in a few decades.
>>77175333
>this half assed approach is fucking our shit up
Really, just this. If there was no relationship to powers in the region, there would be few complications as long as the borders are firm.
Why contain it?
The best solutions just aren't really feasible in the modern west. You'd have to go colonialism on them, seizing control of oil assets and playing kingmaker with strongmen in the region. Western nations controlled regions like these before, even larger ones, they just didn't mind being a bit more ruthless then we are today.
>>77174664
I don't want to die never having known these feels... please white man, stand up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ
>>77174933
Ever heard of WMDs?
>>77173917
>wipe out leadership and destabilize governments
>watch local maniacs and thugs grab for power in a chaotic vacuum
>act surprised
daily reminder that a 9/11 scale attack every morning for three years would kill one per cent of the US population and change absolutely nothing.
You're being herded and farmed, brothers.
>>77173917
There is a solution. Genocide.
Every single shitskin out there; men, women, children - it doesn't matter. If they are Muslims - kill them.
>>77175589
t. Slavic rapebaby
We haven't really tried killing them yet. Let's saturate their entire countries with chemical weapons. If they continue to pop up then call me.
>Extract all oil
>ALL OF IT
>Fucking Leave
That is the solution. Remove the oil and fucking leave. No, "oh I gibs it to my international trust "friends"", no, fucking TAKE IT. I don't care who takes it at this point it's going to eventually go in globalists pockets, stop them from slow draining for military bux.
Or literally get a rogue squadron and fire bomb all the oil fields.
there is. Full quarantine, like for Ebola.
>>77175643
Yes, they are. There is literally nothing wrong with deportations. My country deports young fertile women from non-EU East Europe and Asia all the fucking time. They just don't make the news unlike a hideous pack of hairy Mooslims.
>>77175696
But then didn't you become the extremist, the problem?
>>77174933
Hard work and dedication. Have a little optimism, and it can be done!
>>77175544
gooks are idolaters, their fake idol emperor ordered them to surrender
Allah Most High will not
>>77175716
Swedes are the only Germanics with any Slav admixture as recently researched, Ahmed.
>>77175887
not all Muslims are Arabs some will eventually realize nuclear fire is hot and will burn them .....except the Arab muslims they will most likely not learn..at all
>>77174729
Phil Robertson is actually right
>>77175544
>Nuke ME so hard that all the matter of the land mass is displaced
>Will probably kill everyone in Europe and Africa and Russia and most of Asia
Okay.
> muh oil
We don't need it. Canada alone is sitting on tons of untapped oil.
>>77175838
If someone wants to kill you, telling him "plz don´t", may not work.
>>77175275
>innocent
>muslims
>>77175932
sure these soviets stopped at konigsberg or should i say kaliningrad
>>77173917
They've been fucking with us since Jefferson. We just need to keep killing them. Like the roaches they are.
>>77173917
nukes
>>77176158
I keep forgetting that Muslims cannot into facts.
>>77173917
What is it with shills and paragraphs?
Oh, right. Because they are not telling the truth, they need as much rhetorical momentum as possible.
The notion that the US is killing ISIS members, and doing so every single day, would be considered very funny in some parts, OP.
>>77173917
Trump said that he will put boots on the ground. Hail trump. He will ravage islam cod4 style, charlie dont surf.
>>77173917
I don't even need to read your entire post, just the beginning of it, to refute your claim.
You fight an ideology like radical islam with another ideology; Action. The rise of violent attacks you've been seeing are being carried out because the nation has become more vulnerable than it's ever been, in the name of political correctness and the entire sjw movement. This all falls on Obama, in my opinion. Radicals know that they are more likely to get away with doing what they are, so they're less inclined to stop doing it, because they know Obama isn't going to do anything about it. What has he done? Order some airstrikes? Is that it? There's been more than enough damning evidence to suggest that raids on mosques wouldn't be unorthodox. In fact, it would probably save lots of lives, and put many bad people away. But, out of the fear of labelling something due to it's ideology, Obama refuses to do such a thing. He refuses to even call this latest act of terror as what it is. Meanwhile, the country scurries to debate about gun control of it's citizens, as it that is at the root of this problem, and not the radical muslims themselves.
So, tldr, simply put, you fight radical islam by throwing pc culture out the window, getting some balls and backbone, and coming down on the hotbeds in the country, places like mosques, and close the borders to anyone slightly suspicious. Meanwhile, bomb the fuck out of isis territory. Teach the radicals we won't fuck around with them, tolerating their intolerance.
>>77176205
ok ivan
>>77174729
>The government needs to be funding evangelicals.
The aggressive evangelizing run on the taxpayer's dollar in the military is basically that, it's been going on since the first Gulf War, too.
>>77176121
do you really think there's gonna be some worldwide genocide of whites or are you actually scared of the statistically tiny chance you might get snackbar'd instead?
go get some air
The solution is very simple. Ban all travel and immigration from Muslim majority countries, deport all Muslims with anything less than full citizenship, "encourage" repatriation of the ones that do have citizenship, ban all foreign funding of mosques and Islamic organizations, ban Islamic schools, and treat Muslims the same way most people treat Klan members. There will be more violence in the short term but by making life relentlessly unbearable for them, most will leave and their numbers will shrink in the long run and Islam will recede from Western society.
>>77174089
kek its the only way that will work too
>>77176370
We need boots at the border and boots up the hairy Muslim ass as it's propelled outside every single Western country.
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>>77174630
That's not too hard to solve. Just means we need to hit multiple with each strike, and go into total war production.
Most of them live in one place, too.
>>77175833
Maybe it will change one day, but in many countries the social and political will to do what would be necessary isn't there anymore. Deportations aren't enough due to the wealth and autonomy these regions are allowed. Before these places were on lock down from their very sources. Which solved the problem of people, key strategic areas, and resources. The west has spent decades being told colonialism and it's effects were bad, but from a Machiavellian viewpoint, brought all the security and wealth needed in addition to sort of "uplifting" the locals. Maybe one day in time these views will return but it seems doubtful.
>>77175255
>>77175577
Nah civilized people don't need to get in a shit fight with chimps. We endanger species by wrecking their habitat and removing their way of life, not torturing them individually.
ITT: sadists that can't see the big picture
>>77174394
Its only genocide if you loose.
>>77173917
I thought America keeps a few thousand pic related on hand.
>>77176429
Any violence, even as much as a fistfight or groping of a local female should merit immediate deportation.
>>77175838
There's nothing extreme about eradicating disease. Islam is a plague, and Muslims are the vector.
>>77173917
Keep on killing.
We're barely even doing anything right now.
Came to that conclusion years ago OP
What I find amazing is people seem to think ISIS has weakened the jihadist movement by splitting it. What these people fail to realise is that the movement has not been weakened by this split, it has been made so much stronger.
I think a useful analogy is that of TB. When TB enters the body, it immediately lays down latent bacteria, undetectable and slow growing. These latent bacteria periodically switch to a fast growing phenotype when the immune system is weakened and make a run for freedom. Should the immune system clear these, the latent bacteria are still present, ready for another go.
This is the same with ISIS and Al Qaeda. ISIS may be fast moving and it may be destroyed equally quickly, but Al Qaeda provides a perfect ideological fallback position for global jihadism. They're still working behind the scenes, slowly building up power, allying themselves with tribes in Yemen, Syria, Somalia, with the Taliban in Afghanistan.
The clue is in the name. The Islamic State, that's easy enough. But Al Qaeda? It means "the base", but something is lost in this simple translation. It more accurately translates to "the fundament" or "the foundation". Which is what it was always supposed to be, the foundation from which the Caliphate will be built. And even if the Caliphate is raised to the ground, the foundation will remain.
This was always the plan. The long and short game, simultaneously.
>>77173917
Keep the isolated in their countries
theyll either reform and join humanity or theyll kill themselves
>>77174790
Not many people saying this but its true. Getting rid of their money is a critical part of this. How could these goat fuckers (without foreign cash) make enough money to buy all the shit they have? Simple answer is they can and are propped up buy Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey and all the rest of those faggots.
the first step is banning halal/kosher meat under grounds that it is unethical
then banning the religion
>>77176429
litteraly worse than Hitler
>>77173917
Cut their funding man. It's the fucking Saudis bankrolling all of them, Stop supporting these goat fuckers and then support for Islamic terrorism will dry up.
>>77174261
>hardly the organizations they used to be.
Kek they used to be some men in caves in Afghanistan now they have a protostate with 10 million citizens in the centre of the Middle East. I'm sure they're losing hope.
>>77176374
>So, tldr, simply put, you fight radical islam by throwing pc culture out the window, getting some balls and backbone, and coming down on the hotbeds in the country, places like mosques, and close the borders to anyone slightly suspicious. Meanwhile, bomb the fuck out of isis territory. Teach the radicals we won't fuck around with them, tolerating their intolerance.
This is the shit violent idiots spewed about communist russia while funding the Bin Ladens. Not even a conspiracy theory, it's a matter of public record.
Keep on using that sledgehammer on yesterday and gettin surprised by tomorrow. None of you assholes predicted 9/11, not fuckin one.
>>77176693
I'm proposing deportation simply as a matter of course, regardless of criminal activity. If you're a Muslim, and you lack citizenship, you're gone. If you're a Muslim and you have citizenship, then we make it more appealing for you to leave than to stay. Of course that requires widespread societal discrimination against Muslims at all levels, which should be happening anyway if people are interested in not letting demographics inevitably fuck us over and usher in a future dominated by Islam.
>>77174430
Agreed.
RED PILLS! GET YOUR RED PILLS RIGHT HERE!!!
>>77174630
Then consider 2.5 billion muslims dead.
>>77176621
Political will can swing in the opposite direction literally overnight. Like I said, it's not like we're not deporting. We are. I know Aussies and kiwis who were forcefully deported. I've recently talked to a girl from Belarus who studies here and she said it's common knowledge that the EU visa is especially hard to get for childless females under 30 and that overstaying it results in deportation and ban from all of the EU.
>>77175275
Im willing
>>77176718
And Orlandofag felt the same way about gays.
>>77173917
Destabilizing Iraq and killing Saddam was a massive mistake. The middle east needs violent dictators to keep their people in line. Sending troops into the middle east was a mistake. Bombing the shit out of the middle east and not giving a fuck about collateral damage is the only way to win. Too bad it will never be an option and people won't wake up until they see this shit happening in their backyard...oh wait...it's already happening! source: Orlando.
>>77174430
>>77177019
>giving the US this much credit
I think the reason so many Americans support this theory and "Bush did 911" is because you secretly can't believe you've been so BTFO by a bunch of goatfuckers.
>>77177195
That's his problem. You are our enemy and will always be. You're not welcome.
When gun doesn't work, you just need to use more gun
>>77176137
>le deus vult
>canadian
>probably watches anime too
kill yourself
>>77173917
eradicate islam, problem solved.
>>77174646
this tbqh
I'm pretty left leaning compared to pol, but honestly Hilary in the middle east concerns me more than Trump.
>>77177306
So you're literally no better than Orlandofag?
Pretty low moral standards really.
>>77176429
IIRC the Nazis started gassing Jews because their deportation plans fell flat on it's face when no other country wanted to take them. This is what will happen if you try that stupid plan. Middle Eastern countries will refuse to take them so you will either have to abandon the plan or resort to murdering them making yourself look like a monster. You can't just send thousands of people to another country.
>>77176083
A decent sized nuke would get the job done. Nothing to large that will fuck up europe n shit but africa wouldnt hurt.
>>77177135
You're right that it can, I just think it's unlikely to swing enough. When you think of the solutions that may actually work, it's hard to convince yourself they will actually happen in reality. When I look at historical empire and other civilizations, the trend seems to be that way as well. They don't generally swing back to the views that made them successful, they continue to stagnate until they collapse. I'm pretty pessimistic about the whole thing really.
>>77177300
The most we can claim is indirect "credit" for 9/11 by supporting regimes like the ones in Saudi Arabia and Qatar that are using their oil money to fund the spread of extremist Islam around the world. It makes the entire war on terror a complete waste of time because all we do by our political alignments in the ME is allow for the creation of groups we end up having to fight.
>>77177464
I don't care about your morals. You shall be hunted like the rabid pig you are.
You're on the nose op, it's just going to have to run its course. It's like blackberry bushes, all you can do is beat them back but they'll never go away completely.
There is a 'final solution' but we aren't allowed to go there as a society at this point in time. Frankly I myself am not sure, as much as I hate Islam, it is something I could morally justify in my own head.
Surely there would be underground resistance for decades but most problems would stop immediately.
>>77173917
Maybe this?
https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Future-Tolerance-Sam-Harris/dp/0674088700
>>77174022
First post best post
>>77177195
And I'm not impressed by morally relativistic arguments.
>>77177246
Radical Islam existed long before Saddam went down.
The 1965 immigration act opened up the floodgates and brought them in.
You don't have radical Islam in countries with very very tiny muslim populations.
Radical Islam is just a part of Islamic culture the average Muslim does not go out trying to bomb or kill but a percentage of them do, and a large enough rest of the population is willing to segergate itself and not assimilate and help cover for the people.
Assuming the west isn't just bankrolling them secretly to promote a globalist agenda, there will eventually be a tipping point where fucks stop being given, even by the left.
That of course means it will get a lot worse before it gets better, and then it will get very very extremely bad for one side.
The op has a good point, however, in that there is no real easy military solution to islamic extremism in the near future.
I could be wrong.
>>77177246
Thats right. The US helping with the Arab spring also fucked shit up. I know Assad is a massive asshole and kills his own people... but fuck em.
If someone isn't constantly stepping on theirs throats with a boot they will stand up and slice yours.
>>77174166
If we hadn't fucked up their countries, they might not be doing any of this.
Issue is, we already have fucked up their countries, and now they want to kill us for it. So unless we go in there and kill them first, thus further fucking up their countries, we'll be letting a powerful, violent, and deeply anti-western force grow unchecked.
>>77177352
>koala
>mudslime lover
You first
>>77173917
We've actually stopped a lot, but we stop them so early there's nothing extreme for the press to report.
The NSA needs to get back to its roots of watching FOREIGN enemies, and just wire tap anyone from the middle East. None of these attacks have been from anyone of non middle eastern decent.
>>77177470
>gassing
>>77174630
How has nobody corrected this?
There's 1.6 billion. You're off by almost 1,000,000,000 people.
>>77177470
Not really a comparable situation because the Jews had no country of origin to return to.
>>77173917
You can't solve a problem propagated by ignorance with violence. You solve this problem with education
>>77173917
>>77173917
The solution is lock the country the fuck up and deporting/detaining all the Muslims for the foreseeable future, while a "mysterious virus" rampages across the Middle East.
>>77177520
That's because your leaders are incompetent, not because they have some evil globalist plan to spread fear. ISIS has directly lead to rise in right wing popularism across the entire West, it's killing globalism every day it exists.
>>77177470
Because there was no Jewish country. There are many Muslim countries. If they refuse to cooperate, isolate and cripple them economically until they do.
>>77177582
>trusting a kike
it has only worked so well until now
>>77177470
You can. It happens all the time. Just load ships up and send them where ever. Becomes someone else's problem and that's the end of it.
>>77177531
yeah okay.
were in the final stages
soon
>>77176652
okay, sun-tzu. what tactics do you use to implement that strategy?
>>77177246
It wasn't just removing Saddam, it was removing Saddam and not replacing him with a powerful puppet. Going directly from dictatorship to elections doesn't often work and should be viewed as a failed (over and over) experiment.
Democracy is possible eventually but not immediately following such a collapse of power. There were of course plenty of other reasons Iraq turned into such a shitheap and spawned so much extremism, but half-assing a "democratic transition" and why it's terrible should have been common sense.
As long as muslims exist there will be islamic terrorism, the thing is, it can be exclusively happening in Muslim countries and then no one would care. All the west has to do is kick out every muslim. Ban every Quran and Mosque. And the west will never have to deal with muslim issues again.
>>77173917
Nuke the cube. When Mecca burns, they'll see that there is no Allah.
>>77177500
Well if we're anything like the Roman empire, we might just survive after all. I have a feeling the war on islam will force us to take some drastic measures, for suvival's sake.
>>77177733
you also have to count the muslim christian atheists like barack "HUSSEIN" obama
>>77178024
That is true. Islam at our door is a giant wakeup call to the entire world. We've become way too complacent and soft.
>>77173917
>We've been killing them every single day. New recruits pop up as fast as we can terminate them.
We haven't been killing as fast as we could.
>>77177783
I'm well aware of the terrible foreign policy decisions our country has made over the last century, most of them either shortsighted decisions motivated purely by money or drastic overreactions to the gommie menace.
>>77177989
then you'll have your queen's head on a pike tomorrow
>>77177813
A what? You're talking about one of the most famous atheists in the world.
nuclear annhilation, theirs.
>>77174630
We better get started then.
Protip: shoot them until they die
that or welcome all of them into your communities and everyone is happy forever
>>77178024
the problem is what needs to happen and what the west is willing to do at this point are two different things. we care too much about "innocent" Muslims. no one is willing to push the red button for the greater good.
>>77176945
Every fucking post from France itt has been bait or the worst type of sjw tier niggerdom. Fuck you Jacque. Enjoy your enrichment.
>>77173917
That's defeatist talk. The obvious solution is the Final one, we just haven't been trying hard enough.
>>77178218
>atheists
silly goy i mean guy
>>77174933
Hope for an alien invasion and pray that they begin their attempted genocide of Humanity in the Middle East before getting BTFO by the rest of the now united Human Race.
I think the best solution is a perpetual killing machine. Pure in possible recruits into the machine and kill with air strikes ad infinitum.
>>77173917
nukes
need a world wide annual purge week. open season.
>>77178378
No, it's shill talk. After every major Muslim aggression, MIDF follows up with extreme damage control.
>>77173917
>killing them isn't working
It will work. Especially since we have such a huge advantage over them these days.
Crusaded when?
>>77174664
Adolf Cuckler praised Islam and thought it a better religion than Christianity.
Go suck a dick
>>77176137
Stop with the fucking Crusader roleplaying.
Either step the fuck up and get your buddies together for a scrap or shut the fuck up.
>>77173917
Kill enough of them until they change their ways for good.
You don't need to kill any muslims at all. You just need to ban them from the west. After that, they can't just claim it's just criminals killing westerners, only way they could attack westerners then is through war, at which point they can be destroyed.
>>77178781
most people don't have the stomach for the countless millions of deaths it would require to break their spirit and pride for good
>>77173917
It's possible to deal with Sunnis but it's HIGHLY atypical of Western Society. Comparatively, both Russian and Chinese Civilizations do an admirable job coping with Sunni Extremism. So there are solutions, but it's near impossible for current Western Societies as is.
Dealing with Shia extremism is just diplomacy with Theocrats. Has been done.
>>77178665
>>77178665
>we have such a huge advantage over them these days.
millions of leftists and women on their side as well as remember the holocaust is a huge advantage ?
>>77176525
The bad thing about this video is that was a sheep herder and his flock, not hajis like you would want.
>>77178811
the ban would help, but it's already too late for it to be 100% effective. Orlando shooter was a US citizen. all you need is a device with internet connection to get sucked into radical Islam while you're sitting in white suburbia.
>>77173917
Always side with a genocide. The final solution is the only solution.
Rate, would this solve the problem?
>Middle Eastern/Islamic Countries need to be broken down into smaller countries divided by the populations Islamic Sect (Shia State, Sunni State)
>Iran and Saudi Arabia should work together to promote peace in the region, when that is done make Saudi Arabia and Iran kill each other so they're not regional powers anymore and are divided in to multiple countries.
>Ban Internet and Promote Gun Control in all Islamic Countries
>Place Sanctions/Embargos on countries funding terrorist groups
>Kick Turkey out of EU and NATO
>Build a Oil Pipeline to Russia, so Russia can be the largest Oil producer in the world so Saudi Arabia is out of the picture
>Build a Wall or strengthen borders around the Middle East from the rest of the world
>Deport all the refugees back to their countries
>Temporarily fund all the countries there until they're all stable and instill strong leaders like Sadaam
>USA stay out of the region for 100 years
the solution certainly wasn't to topple dictators and give them free, open space to operate
hell even taking out the Taliban wasn't advantageous for us
we should have concentrated on al Qaeda
and they were out of Afghanistan by the end of 2001, beginning of 2002
>>77174630
There are 2.2 billion christians Plus all atheist fags that want in on the action plus i'm almost certain even Asian countries would help us exterminate Islam. Islam is cancer all around the world. Nobody but western liberals like them.
>>77178811
>through war, at which point they can be destroyed.
srry m8 they beat you in iraq and afghanistan
inb4 kill count
soviets not nazis won WWII
>>77173917
Genocide, obviously, older cultures did this, and back then savagery was commonplace, but it's becoming common again, and an old solution is necessary for medieval barbarians, kill them ALL, tolerate NONE to live, use nuclear weapons to kill them in the largest numbers and soldiers later to wipe up what the fallout doesn't kill. Seriously
>>77173917
There is, it's called a hydrogen bomb.
>>77177470
>You can't just send them to another country.
Yes you can. Just force them across the border, Turkey has absolutely no chance against American or even Eurofag military strength. They can scream and cry all they want but in the end we have more artillery.
>>77173917
how about not go about arming every special rebel snowflake tribe and there will be less arms in the planet. Leave those goat fuckers to shit in their own bed
>>77178678
At the time it was. The Ottoman Empire was patrician-tier. Sure it was gone by the time of Hitler but it was very recent. He would have remembered German-Ottoman WW1 co-operation.
>>77178730
>>77177352
What's your problem with the crusades lads?
>>77179058
>Iran and Saudi Arabia should work together
Stopped reading here
>>77176621
We can survive without ME oil if we have to, it will be a lousy transition but we can do it.
ME on the other hand will collapse without us (minus Israel).
>>77174824
>If you want the most morally righteous solution, you'd have to bring economic progress and good institutions to the region,
That doesn't work.
>>77179136
>bullying fellow NATO countries
I dunno, at least they have good ideas about women. Wouldn't be the end of the world to be muslim.
>>77179136
Then they infest that country, breed, and come back in larger numbers, kill them and be done with it, showing mercy to your enemy is weakness.
>>77173917
Just stop caring about them. Let them live as they want.
Most terrorist organizations were created with local objectives, they just start to attack other countries because these countries think they have anything to do with their wars.
Want ISIS to stop? Do not help "moderate freedom fighters rebels", let Assad get rid of them.
Stop giving money to them is anothet way to weaken they.
>>77175275
I am, you can make me responsible even, gimme the keys to the nukes
>>77176802
But they can only implement terror by coming into our countries and keeping them out isn't that hard if you're prepared to go full /pol/.
>>77177352
>>77178730
Yes goy its never going to happen. its 2016 after all.
>>77174430
So much this. ISIS just seemed to just pop into existence out of nowhere. And now its all you hear and read about.
>>77174378
these clouds reminds me of trumps hair.
hope that was not intentional.
>>77179381
The problem isn't ISIS it's home grown terrorism. Sure we can ignore ISIS but what of the dickheads pledging allegiance to them at home?
Saudi princes are living in fucking palaces with as much fucking gold on every surface as they can buy.
Imagine the resentment that creates among the populace, the anger and hate.
But those rulers have for a very long time influenced the peasants to direct their anger outwards to the "evil west" instead of inwards on themselves or their rulers.
So being in control of the very few islamic schools means they control the message of the koran (which is generally shit to begin with) and the message is as it's been for the last millenia, which is conquest; keep the murderous rage away from the palace filled with gold plated cars, exotic animal pets, and harems of white virgin slave girls which you don't need to die in order to fuck, and especially keep the murderous rage away from the ruling families who have sent generation upon generation of dumbfuck peasants to their deaths at foreign hands in foreign lands for a god that doesn't exist.
>>77173917
We need to target their civilian population centers. It worked with the firebombings of Germany and Japan.
>>77173917
Kick them out of the west
Quarantine their sandbox
Let them sort themselves out
Problem solved OP
>>77179332
If I had the power I'd make it the end of the world before I became a muslim.
>>77179272
not at all, they are not like us, look at Africa, how many times have we built it up, only to have the natives tear it down again and return to their primitive habits? People who allow themselves to be deceived by islam are not worth saving either.
Give the people of the Middle-East back an identity that doesn't revolve around this cancerous religion. Let the Arabs be proud of being Arabs. Let the Turks be proud of being Turks and the Persians be proud of being Persian. Nationalism has been all but exterminated in the Middle East (largely by our own hand, at Israel's bidding), and the people of the Middle East have all turned to Allah to fill the void, with predictable results.
Oh, and glass the shit out of Saudi Arabia. That alone will make a world of difference.
>>77178392
Thanks for your highly constructive contributions to the conversation.
>>77179284
Why not? They do it. Turkey's entire political climate over the last few years has been "Do this for us, OR ELSE!"
The only reason why it works is because for some dumb ass reason we put women in charge of positions that require a strong hand.
>>77179237
I have no problem with the crusade, I justify them completely. I have a problem with people screaming Deus Vult like it's somehow going to bring down the angry penis of a vengeful god. Start stitching some red crosses to flak jackets or some shit and get armed. Step up.
>>77178959
Actual militaries are a huge advantage.
I don't know if you could tell but the left is dying.
>>77179018
Ban the muslim US citizens too obviously. I meant deport all muslims from the west. Ban Mosques and the Quran as well. Simple enough. Turkey was able to kick out all the armenians.
>>77174430
>Islamic terror only exists becuz murrica!
they exacerbate the problem but claiming the muzzies would be peaceful without western interference in the middle east is fucking retarded.
Europeens of all people should know this as they've been fighting off muzzie incursions for literally over a thousand years now. But then again you're Scandinavian, so of course you love brown dick and will do anything to defend the people attached to them.
>>77179580
tl;dr
You gotta remove the rattle snakes' fangs before providing the antivenom to the bite victim. You gotta take out the people on the top before you can clean up the polluted minds of the people on the bottom.
>>77178990
>implying I don't want to murder every single mudlsime.
You shills really need to stop pretending as though there is such things as good muslims.
>>77179572
RAHOWA.
>>77176978
Yeah, ok, so let's leave all the mosques alone because there certainly isn't anything going down in those places. There's no way there's anybody trying to radicalize others in places like that, nope. Also, since a group like isis poses absolutely no threat to us or anyone else, through their action or influence, let's leave them alone, lest we destabilize their currently stable hotbeds.
Certainly, however, don't even try to suggest an alternative. Your logic is sound.
Also,
>None of you assholes predicted 9/11
Plenty of people could have. Terrorists frequently made themselves known with previous attacks on the world trade towers.
>>77179616
Um, this is incoherent nonsense.
The region is intensely tribalistic; Islam, the only thing Arabs have to be proud of, is supposed to cure the tribalism through imperialism.
>>77179190
Bruh the Ottoman Empire was a joke and by the end of World War I it was all but crushed.
ffs it had been in decline since the 1700s.
>>77179405
You can go and kill them first person. I know a case of a dude who lives in my area in Galicia that joined the kurds I think to fight ISIS. It doesn't seem very difficult a thing to do.
>>77179018
>radical Islam
All Islam is Radical. You wouldn't say peaceful pacifists.
>>77173917
Nuke. Time to wave this big American dick again.
>>77179626
The West needed Turkish co-operation to successfully pull off Desert Storm. They are a vital ally, pissing them off will not help.
>>77179957
Let's just ally with the Ruskies and launch a double invasion of Turkey.
>>77179381
The problem is ISLAM and primitives, like it or not the world is all connected, there are no distant problems, everything is local now, they can not be allowed to live. They crash planes in to building, blow up schools, mass kidnap and rape children, and indoctrinate people into their madness, ignoring them is like ignoring a massive fire outside your home, it's only a matter of time before it spreads. We would still have a space program if we weren't fighting a global war, I want that back, drop the bomb, wipe them out here too, no mercy.
>>77179764
>Um, this is incoherent nonsense.
the countries over there were purposely partitioned to keep them being being stable, homogeneous chunks of land
>>77179957
DS was in the 90's homie. Pissing them off will do nothing because they don't do anything anymore. They just make demands and throw vitriol wherever they go. Putting a fire under their ass would either do them some good or show their real colors. The puffy fucks have been dumping their stone age mussies into Austria for fuck knows how long now.
>>77179381
Thats complete bullshit. ISIS is gaining power, if it ever gets enough power it will attempt to attack the west as it always has since Islam was invented.
There's more of them than there are of us, and they have a culture of war and expansion. We have a decaying culture of hedonism.
The only plan we really have, although nobody explicitly says it like this, is to convert them to our culture. Show them TV and consumerism and gay sex make them realize it's better than their god. That seems doomed, as we are already showing signs of losing our love of this culture.
I think left-wing morality policing has accelerated our decline. When we had anything to offer as a culture, it was the gleeful flaunting of authority and the self-sufficient frontier ideal. That was a strong kind of anarchic spirit that could win the war of ideas vs a killer religion. We had serious degenerates running around for the entire history of this country and took some amount of pride in it. That has now collapsed and degenerate hedonism is now practiced in a way that is somehow without pleasure. Zizek has written about this, the idea of safe sex, diet soda, healthy vices. We have now failed as hedonists and that is one of the reasons we're being conquered by theocrats of both foreign and our secular leftist variety.
>>77179120
How the hell do you think you can do that with a religion that's spread out in many countries and interspersed with other religions too in all those countries?
>>77174729
>The government needs to be funding evangelicals
No.
>>77175255
Oy vey, that'll trick the goyim for sure!
Whites are the only ones to propose civility in warfare in the first place. Sort of a natural reaction to being superior, you tend to be more empathetic and kind knowing you could decimate your enemy without trying. Hence the problem with our "refugees"...
>>77174525
The terrorist organizations of XIX century werent created because some crusaders conquered their land centuries ago.
First we have the British Empire and France supporting arab nationalism in XIX and early XX century as a way to weaken the ottomans. Though initially it was purely nationalism, it soon become islamic nationalism, and the origin of most "arabic islamic republics".
Then we have the americans founding anti-soviet organizations during the cold war like Taliban or Al Qaeda. They thought this guys would be their puppets, but turned that they wanted the muslim world ruled by muslims, not infidels.
Soon they were making attacks in Europe and USA.
Theres also the Saudi Arabia, whose ideology Incentive most extremist ideologies(salaphism)
>>77177679
If its your solution, then the West is already dead. There are too much muslims in fucked countries to murder. Not speaking that even most anti-islam westerners would be against it. The internal oposition would be strong.
The best way is stop supporting Saudi Arabia and Israel. They'll eventually fícus they hate on this 2 countries.
Iran already hate them, Yemen and Syria probably too. Try to kill them will just make things even worse
>>77173917
There's one solution.
>>77179784
My point is that it showed the "good side of Islam". Turks didn't take Islam too seriously mainly just used it as a tool for government control like we did with the Catholic church. That's why Hitler liked it, he saw the "good side" and the "good side" of a religion is when it's pushed into the background out of sight by a powerful state.
Trump is the only one with the right idea on this. Go after the source of their funding. In ISIS case, target their oil income. Punish Turkey and other parties that are dealing arms to them in exchange for oil.
The mujahedin were only able to defeat the USSR, because America, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan were collectively funneling billions and billions of dollars to them.
Sooner or later we're going to need to tackle state sponsors, with Saudi Arabia at the head of the list.
Fund Iran so that they can curb stomp Saudi Arabia into smaller countries with no power and build a Oil Pipeline from the Saudi Oil Fields to Iran to Russia, making Russia the oil King.
Also divide all large Islamic countries into smaller Islamic countries by sects (Shia and Sunni)
Kick Turkey out of EU and NATO
Place Embargos on countries funding terrorist groups
Enforce Gun Control in Islamic Countries and IP ban the entire region from the internet
Export them all.
Ban them all.
Easier if you have a racial ethnostate.
That's the easy solution.
The harder solution is kill them all.
That would be easy considering our total military superiority.
>>77174166
I hate my country
>>77177679
fucks sake you're like a woman
I am only reading unrealistic child like fantasies
How about we pour all that military industrial complex money not in TOWs for the rebels or in Hellfires for the military but instead:
pour 1000 billion tax Dollar into building a thriving scientific and progressiv economy?
Do You think this will work?
1000 billion tax dollars into infrastructure, police, universities, cooperations, anti corruption units and so forth
>>77180316
rightwing death squads for within places that can be saved, zero tolerance, it's ugly and messy, nukes and viruses for countries too infested to be saved, and those that oppose. Not kidding either, not even a little, no mercy, no tolerance, nuke them, send a message, and have the balls to stick to it. That is the way forward, anything else is accepting death.
>>77174166
How did we fuck up there countries?
>>77175275
Every muslim is guilty of something
>>77180366
tail between legs and head up ass is not a solution, facing and killing our enemies without mercy or pause the is only real solution.
>>77173917
If we killed them all there would be no terrorism
Its the fucking Saudis. There are literally a hundred documentaries on this.
Back in the early 80s, the Saudis got pissed about Shias having an actual voice in the middle east due to the iranian revolution in 1979 (after shias being oppressed throughtout the entire region for the last ~300 years). So they started funding crazy fundamentalists in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Chechnya (note this makes an arc around Iran, from its southeast up to the caucuses). They literally spent hundreds of millions of dollars spreading their shitty wahabbi faith to poor people in these countries and teaching them to hate anyone who didn't believe in their extreme fundamentalist interpretation (especially shia). In the 90s, they accelerated this to the palestinian territories and Egypt. People in these places werent extremists until the Saudis funded mosques and imams in these places to preach this shit.
Solution: back iran because iranians dont do terrorist shit, bomb the fuck out of saudi arabia like we should done in 2001
>>77173917
Just convert. Am surprised no one thought of this already.
>>77179264
I agree with that but think the area itself should be controlled. If you leave it unchecked the instability can spread, it also emboldens the left to "help the children and refugees" etc. I think a careful narrative that nudged towards colonialism would be preferable. It keeps the areas under control, retains resources and key terrain, while ideally bringing the best of civilization to their youth. You can also nudge leftists into complying (albeit slowly) by helping the poor natives with infrastructure, education, secularization, and the development we bring.
This all happened under colonialism policies, until we simply abandoned them. I do think that really would be the best way forward, but looks difficult to achieve.
>>77177378
Romans said that about Christianity, extreme and gruesome measures were employed.
Didn't do shit.
Don't tell me you've got no other ideas? Years ago someone was trying to tell me the US would be lured into crazily expensive wars and the people would defeat themselves the minute they had to co-operate under pressure instead of cruelly compete. He was trying to recommend a book about the fall of the USA and i was all like "Fuck off willya?"
Don't prove him right.
>>77180525
I know, I'm sorry, fight the good fight and change minds, don't let them silence you.
>>77180768
Ignore him, he's being another retarded leaf poster.
The only thing the western powers have done is insert themselves as a minor pawn in the middle easterner "game"
>>77173917
BUILD WALL, BAN NEW MUZSCUM FROM ENTERING. EDUCATE FUTURE GENERATIONS ON HOW FUCKED ISLAM IS AND HOW IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD, AND NEVER WILL BE.
The solution is quite simple, OP - these actions would pretty much just shut Islam out of the rest of the world where it is unwanted. Islam brings NOTHING of value, anyone who says otherwise is a fucking suicidal self-defeating kook who already died inside long ago. Remove kebab, keep it segregated to its own few nations, remove dependence on foreign oil to cut off their only income, and they'll be killing each other from here on out while leaving the rest of us alone.
If that doesn't work, we can just nuke them into oblivion and call it a day.
>>77173917
It may not be a full 'solution' and certainly not an immediate one, but I can't help thinking it would be a big help if we would stop funding the bastards.
