How do we fix this?
>>77140278
A new paint color to spruce the place up?
>>77140278
Fuck you, there is nothing wrong with this
>>77140278
Repeal the national firearms act and we won't have to deal with all those wonky barrel lengths.
>>77140278
more accessible pricing would be nice, how much is that ps90?
>>77140460
That's what I was gonna say
>>77140278
I know, that retail space looks incredibly amateur. That store should really work on it's presentation.
>>77140583
Not a lot of people buy them. $1k range even less of you look around.
Ar 15 sucks compared to an AK 47.
>>77140278
Hold a "Fuck the Terrorists, We're Ready For Them" sale and get those guns into the hands of people who can use them.
>>77140278
Ban dangerous people.
>>77140278
>dat file name
I call bullshit, shill.
>>77140278
No money down financing and broader color schemes to appeal to the cartoon generation
>>77140278
>Dat automatic flintlock, doh...
>>77140278
Cut down the barrel of that PS-90 to its proper length.
>>77140278
Make full autos,AOW,SBRect legal and then adapt the NFA system for RPG's and explosives instead.
>>77140460
Fucking This!
If everyone in the world had guns, the problems would iron themselves out in a week! It might not be pretty but it's a fact.
>>77140278
I want to SBR everything. Even that flintlock. SBR that bitch
>>77140278
Thats exactly what the gun range looks like by my house.
But keep in mind none of these are full auto just semi auto. So you cant just hold down the trigger and spray.
>>77140278
Those guns are not automatic
>>77140278
"Gimme the PS90 with extra ketchup and the AR-15 to-go , oh and also only diet bullets pills, I don't want to start a mass shooting"
>>77141197
With the right trigger onsears they are
>>77141047
This, desu Senpai
>>77140583
1450-1750$
>>77140278
That ps90 looks pretty nice...what's with the barrel though? It looks weird on a weapon like that.
>>77140278
Ban assault rifles, it's been done before.
>>77140864
This
>>77140278
An option to swap out the fuckhuge barrel on the PS90. I don't want full auto, but I do want a more compact size, the barrel completely ruins the purpose of it.
>>77140278
and /k/ammandos Identify the old civil war looking rilfe up in the corner?
I don't know. I don't think anyone understands why the AR-15 is so popular.
>>77140956
Exactly none of those guns are automatic
>>77140278
Repeal the NFA so that P90 can have a proper barrel length.
>>77140278
OP has a vagina
The only way to fix the gun problem in the US is for white Americans to buy them before the niggers, spics, and mudshits get their hands on them.
>>77140278
With glass cases. That looks like shit.
>>77141047
This desu
>>77140864
Not at all
>>77140278
Add some more variety to the selection, some shotties and a levergun or 5 would be nice.
>>77141136
>>77140770
>>77140460
Virtually anybody here can already buy a gun. Most choose not to, let alone carry one around everywhere they go. You certainly wouldn't see people carrying around automatics in movie theaters, nightclubs, etc. Repealing the act will not slow down the ever increasing killing sprees that are happening. Come on, people. I looking for serious answers here.
>>77140278
OP is right, the problem is pic related. Why are these guns hanging up there when they should be on the backs of every american. If healthcare is a right where the government pays for healthcare for people, why shouldn't the government buy guns for everyone? I mean it's the second amendment, it's been a right for centuries. It's 2016 guys. We need everyone armed with tax dollars.
>>77140278
Those guns sure do look scary. If they had wood furniture they'd look much safer.
Issue an M4 to every male united states citizen registered for the selective service on their 18th birthday.
Is that my boy Hemingway's .380?
>>77140278
Yeah, OP, there is no fixing the ps90
>>77140278
SNATCH EVERY MOTHERFUCKER BIRTHDAY.
I could buy a grenade easier than a AR
There is nothing wrong with pic OP posted.
No one deserves a scope mounted this high i feel sorry for this AR
>>77141181
Sbr that sling shot bro
>>77142173
>ever increasing killing sprees
You need to turn the news off. It's warping your sense of reality.
>>77141471
It's to comply with the 16" minimum barrel length.
>>77140278
buy them
>>77140278
you give man money, man gives you gun, problem solved.
/POL/ BTFO
https://twitter.com/tattedupbreezy/status/742100059748061184
>>77140278
by giving me that fucking ps90
>>77141711
I think it's a Sharps.
Kind of hard to tell, a lot of Civil War carbines looks very similar.
>>77140278
Make them mandatory?
>>77140278
The wall looks disgusting. Ask Trump on how to build a better one.
>>77140278
4th of July sale.
>>77140278
I would like to see larger price tags. I like to window shop but don't like touching guns I'm not going to buy. That's just rude.
>>77140278
we mount the sights in their proper place?
>>77140278
the caliber of that flintlock rifle looks smaller than it should be
why is it so hard to find proper replicas, you'd think they'd be fairly easy to make cheaply with modern metalworking
all I want to do is impress my range buddies with a nice black powder .58
there is nothing here that needs fixing , all is working as intended.
>>77140278
THESE ARE NOT AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. THEY ALL HAVE PRICE TAGS DANGLING, INDICATING THAT THIS IS A STORE. No store ever would put glorious class 3 weapons next to or even on the same wall as plebshit semi autos.
>how to fix?
Chop the barrel on that ps90 (which is the civilian legal, SEMI AUTO variant of the p90). take the bipod off the m16 with an eotech (hard to justify the extra weight and it's unlikely you'd be using one in <200m engagements, past which you'd use a glass optic). Replace all those shitty uncomfortable stock stocks with magpul furniture.
Oh and keep those guns the fuck away from Muslims
>>77140864
but that is wrong
the modern ar 15 is way less prone to malfunctions and is more resiliant to dirt and shit
>>77140278
You take the fight to the (((Money Printers))).
>>77141299
Most people couldn't make an auto sear for any of those. The lightning link for an ar is not an auto sear just a piece of metal that interrupts the trigger detent.
>>77141299
What I could discern from your sentence is inaccurate from a technical perspective, not to mention its just fucking illiterate.
>>77140278
Put the one way up top down lower so there easier to reach.
>>77141711
/k/an /k/onfirm it's a sharps carbine
>>77141838
Because despite the amount of fat scooter-riding fuckups we have, there's a huge amount of people in this country who believe in its founding principles and make purchases congruous with their beliefs. As a member of the most cucked nation on this planet I wouldn't expect you to understand any of that. As a member of the Muzzie rapefugee pandemic, I'd expect you to. So are you an honest cuck or a shitskin feigning ignorance?
>>77140278
Put them in my basement
>>77140278
By taking them off those ugly wire hangers
>>77140278
send them to yuropoors who need them soon.
Could have a pat down security for a while
>>77143765
nah your wrong. look it up kraut nigger, you cabbage patch bitch.
>>77145167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
>>77140278
>File name, lol not a single one of them.
>New PS90
>Not one piece of Magpul anything
>GayCU camo bag
This picture is a million years old. Get with the current year noguns faggot.
>>77140278
Far too man unsold guns desu, buy them up and protect our families with them.
>>77140772
>That store should really work on it's presentation.
>it's
>possessive
>calls others' style "amateur"
Anon, what the fuck?
>>77140278
We have to fix it by buying them all before terrorist and marxists can do it.
GOGO GO do your part!
>>77145310
yeah i can post memes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr1tV2nsGoM
take it to /k/ and theyll tell you whats up.
>>77145310
>>77145167
no answer i guess
as a murican you ought to know better
>>77140278
we don't, it's beautiful.
>>77140460
3PBP
>>77145852
> m16 A-1
here is your problem faggot
>>77140278
>tfw not american
>tfw will never get to pow pow pow
>>77146210
Wait isnt your country one of the most lax gun countries in the world though?
>>77146182
>m16 is not an ar
>>77146480
Not as good as murica though
It's easy to get a hunting rifle, but pretty much impossible to get something like an M16. Well, unless you go buy one in Russia and smuggle it in.
>>77141388
Nice wrong price range and nice dubs you faggot.
>>77141549
Fuck off spud nigger
>>77146748
>modern
its like you are a dirty communist that cant even read
>>77140278
Create a registry. Ban gun shows, that's where 40% of all guns are sold. If you wish to own a gun for self-defense, get a license.
>>77140278
WOW
>>77141838
Its a combination of
>Hey I had this in the army/marines/whatever
>OMG it's like COD
>runs like a top if the people who made it aren't retarded
>I will never have 2nd amendment
Why even live
>>77140278
Maybe a little splash of color and put some of the guns vertical
>>77140278
Mark everything half off.
>>77140278
Buy custom or build your own for quality.
>>77140278
4 decades of being a gun nut, and here are the sweeping themes I see between the two.
Gun People:
>self determination
>accountable
>truly community based
>treat people based on their individual behavior
>respectful
>often slightly paranoid
>delusions of heroism
>sees problem, fixes it.
Anti-gun People:
>selfish
>ideological, but unrealistic
>sheltered
>book smart
>classist
>"proud" liberals, in white only neighborhoods
>see's problem, comments that "someone should fix it".
>gets mad at intolerance toward the "disadvantaged".
>gets madder when taxes go up to pay for "disadvantged" programs.
I wish lefties weren't so lame, but, alas, they are. I can only guess that it's more of a programming/indoctrination thing, because they rarely make sense these days.
>>77140278
>ywn own a P90
>>77147023
Get the fuck out of my country commie, if you don't like 2A there are plenty of other countries you can move to, like Mexico.
>>77141193
>milling a full auto triggergroup is hard
Full auto.
>>77147659
I dont think PS-90s are illegal in Canada. Getting 5.7 boolits here might be bothersome though
the problem is niggers, sandniggers and taconiggers. Not our constitution.
>>77146867
Untrue. You have to attend to practical shooting training for reservist, or similar.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovellettu_reservil%C3%A4isammunta
Then you can get licence for semi-auto AR-15 or semi-auto AK-47, etc.
>>77142173
well then....its blatantly obvious you live in a place devoid of ethnic minorities...
>>77140864
>AY KAY FUDDY SEBBUM
>>77140278
what the fuck happenned to the P90? :'( that would have looked horrible on the stargates team hands
>>77149369
in the US, all rifles must have a 16" barrel. You can replace it with a shorter barrel, you just have to file some paper work to register it as a short barreled rifle.
>>77140278
the fuck you guys did to the p90?
>>77149535
what? why?
>>77142173
>Repealing the act will not slow down the ever increasing killing sprees
We've been hitting record lows in homicide for years.
>>77149557
The civilian version is different anon.
>>77149606
because of a stupid law passed in the 60's called the National Firearms Act. Anything with a barrel under 16" is considered a handgun, which cannot have a stock. You can either buy a rifle with no stock and a short barrel, and convert it, or buy a rifle with a too long barrel and a stock and convert it. It had to do with the fact that "its too easy to conceal". But really its just about money and registration.
>>77149557
we can own guns, but they are neutered semi-auto with specific length requirements. not full auto as many are falsely led to believe
i should know, i wish i had full auto
>>77149826
sigh.
the NFA is from 1934
the GCA is from 1968
>>77140278
Fix what? The guns are still sitting there unless you think they move and kill people on their own when you aren't looking?
>>77142173
Nope. Shall not be infringed.
>>77149914
its perfectly legal to own a full auto firearm, it just has to be manufactured before 1986. The Hughes Amendment to the NFA closed the registry of civilian full auto firearms. This caused the price to skyrocket. A full auto AR, or a real M16, is around $12,000. It is something that I would really like to see repealed.
>>77149969
yeah yeah yeah I just realized that. My B.
>>77140278
Petition P90 FNH makers to switch to a cheaper bullet gauge like 9 mil?
>>77149914
jesus fucking christ can all the wannabe nogunz shut the fuck up already?
>>77143032
Really makes you think.
Also, on an unrelated note I am now craving fried chicken
>>77140278
what is there to fix?
>>77149606
so you can't fit a tiny SMG in your belt and go to town on the local law enforcement
same reason sawed-off shotguns are illegal
>>77146867
Don't you also lose your guns if you get a traffic ticket? The fact that Europe does that is definitely one of the reasons I'd never leave America. Well, that and the 'hate speech' laws and no legal self-defense.
>>77142173
>automatics
Do you people really not recognize such obvious shills? Why do you keep giving these kikes more shekel? They get paid by the reply.
Sage, report, ignore... you autistic fucks.
>>77150272
funny thing is you can still do that as long as it doesn't have a stock. And if you're hoping to spray and pray, a stock ain't gonna do you much good. The upside of the NFA is that we got semi-auto versions of guns that don't even come semi-auto.
>>77140278
Holy fuck, I love the P90 so fucking much... and now there is a civilian version?! I FUCKING want one.
>>77142922
You can modify it after getting it though, right? I'd for sure shorten to barrel. It doesn't look right with a barrel that long.
>>77150107
your constantly in the eye of the government and you have to pay ludicrous prices that make it a rich man's toy only and bullshit. it might as well never fucking happen for me.
>>77150180
no anon, it is you who is the nogunz
>>77145777
To be quite honest, skill in interior design and knowledge of grammar are mutually exclusive.
>>77140772
Where would Brazil be in that graph?
>>77149606
Since they can't actually ban guns, the left puts up a huge amount of non-sensical legislation to harass gun owners.
>>77149535
you know you can have shorter barrels if it meets OAL requirements. sometimes its as easy as adding a 1 inch rubber buttpad
>>77140278
Add more things besides an AR platform.
>>77150571
yeah I'd never get an NFA item. All my ARs are on 80% lowers. Besides, we got bumpfiring and now those two-stage triggers that fire on the press and release giving you basically a two-round burst that the ATF can't do dick about.
>>77150747
>two-stage triggers that fire on the press and release giving you basically a two-round burst that the ATF can't do dick about.
its my coming christmas present to myself. best middle-finger invention ever
Aren't those BB guns?
>>77150694
nope. The barrel length is measured from the face of the bolt to the end of the muzzle/muzzle device. Some AR's are sold with 14.4" barrel and a long ass flash suppressor. If the ATF measures your barrel, and its 15" long, your ass is toast, buttplate or no buttplate.
>>77142173
I don't give a fuck if 37 preschoolers are raped in the ass by a lubed up barrel of an AR-15 then shot with an AK-47, that doesn't justify you niggers violating the Constitution
>>77140278
>more racks
>can fit more guns
Problem solved :)
"Assault" weapon argument BTFO
>>77140278
F A L
A
L
Thank you kangaroos for this bounty.
>>77140278
work towards greater quantity and availability of more affordable ammunition?
>>77140278
What should my first rifle be, /pol/? I think I want to start with a bolt-action.
>>77141838
compared to most rifles of its era the AR is highly modular and customizable based off of a single set of military specifications that ensured compatibility between manufacturers. it's a pretty simple platform built around CNC aluminum blocks held together with pins and springs. the rest of the furniture is clip on plastic and easily replaceable with the parts of your choice.
you cant say the same about the AK-47, even with its inherent reliability the AK is a cheap platform of stamped sheet metal (fine for 3rd world metal shops but not modern computerized CNC machines) and major components like the barrel and gas block are permanently mounted to the receiver. other components like the stock and handguards are directly fixed to the receiver and require special tools to remove, and then you have to deal with non-standardized sizes and fitting issues due to AKs being manufactured in every Ex-Soviet shithole with their own hardware and tolerances.
>>77142778
I fucking hate those carrying handles.
>>77151332
the K31 is the best surplus bolt action.
Does anybody actually own the P90 or is it just a meme gun?
i imagine real germans buying guns in germany
all those that NOs instead of YESs we could have had
>>77151506
russian army uses it, every one gets p90 and a flash bang
no kit tho
>>77141838
its light, reliable, easy to shoot, comes in a million different calibers and configurations. You can assemble one from a bag of parts to a working rifle without any special tools in a couple hours. And of course, it is the symbol of American Imperialism around the world. Whats not to love?
>>77140278
honestly, I'd like a little more variety, bring back ar-180s, maybe get FN to crank out FNCs, I'd just like to see something beyond
>"new"AR in x special snowflake caliber
or
>Plastic, striker wonder 9 #345
>>77140278
>ywn own a gun
>>77147628
Crazy people:
>hear voices
>don't make any sense
>keep themselves to themselves whilst developing a crazy cache
>voices taught/teaching
>imaginary friends
>mr flibble told me to do it
>delusions of murder
>fucking nutter
>>77151233
Based
>>77151506
Nah people do it is pretty nice
>>77151506
the secret service swapped out their Uzis for P90s. Superior firearm.
>>77140278
Wow a bunch of semi automatic weapons. Nice pic OP.
>>77140278
Needs more SCAR and Tavor.
>>77140278
You can fire full autos at a range in vegas? That's fucking awesome.
>>77151604
>>77153010
You can fire full autos in any non city area as long as the owner is with you.
>>77153010
look up the Knob Creek machine gun shoots
>>77153142
Not even sure if we can have those in idaho and soon we won't need a CCW. Open or concealed will be legal on July 1st. Yippy skippy! Really doesn't change much for me though. I'll continue leaving my ruger in the car in case I ever need it.
>>77140278
Why are semi-automatics capable of firing dozens of rounds under a minute allowed?
That's not defensive, that's offensive. No gun should be able to fire that many rounds without having to be reloaded.
>>77153404
You can, but it's super complicated.
>>77141549
Hang yourself, dirty wop
>>77151332
If you don't have money, mosin because it's cheap as fuq. If you have some money, K31 because it's widely regarded as the highest quality and most accurate among milsurp. Also straight-pull bolts are cool. If you have even more money than that get a Springfield or a Kar98 because both are god-tier and you will enjoy the shit out of shooting them, making accurate hits at ranges that rival or exceed your friends' tacticool ARs. Also if you take good care of them they'll be worth double-quintuple what you paid in a few decades and outlive you as well
>>77140278
(Aware of flag)
Some people should pay attention to the first bit of the second ammendment that says "A well REGULATED Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..."
If I want to get any gun up here I have to write a test and get a license. And can only get .22s, hunting rifles, or shotguns. I personally wouldn't get a gun coz I'd probably end up blowing my brains out in a moment of weakness.
>>77153691
check the meaning of the word REGULATED at the time, there was a linguistic study done on this matter that explains it thoroughly, I suggest you google that
>>77151669
>a couple of hours
>~100 parts at most, probably way less depending on what you bought
Did you never have fucking Legos?
>>77153691
Leaf, you should know your mother tongue.
Regulated, as written in the 18th century, meant well-equipped and trained. It does not mean regulatory restrictions.
>I'm too weak willed to own a gun
Then don't, it's a right in America, but not a requirement. It's a privilege in Canada, but it's still not a requirement.
>>77140278
Is that pic from Switzerland or the USA? Can't really tell
>>77153691
Well regulated as in the militia is working properly. Not as in the government is overseeing them.
Regulated as in self-maintenance not as in maintained by the government.
>>77153537
how else would we fight the government?
>>77150571
>he reads moe trash like a fucking pleb
GET THE FUCK OUT
>>77140278
Ok, assault rifles require special permit. Only handguns are allowed. Then? Shooters will mainly use pistols or will use the blackmarket to acquire their assault rifles - all black gang shooters are getting their guns legally, right ...
>>77154240
That's moot.
An AR-15 would not help in the slightest against a tank or drone. Regardless of its firing rate.
>>77153844
Assuming Regulated means trained and competent with their weapons.
If people were required to take a weapons course and a basic military maneuver's training before getting a gun license I'd feel better about anybody being able to get guns. It would filter out slobs and losers at the very least who couldn't be arsed to put some time and thought into gun ownership.
>>77140864
good one
>>77140278
Too many AR-15s. Diversify, get some M1As and some AKs in there.
>>77140278
>that long barrel on the P90
Absolutely disgusting, Obama should be apologizing for that abomination and supplying proper P90s to all people who bought that shit.
>>77140278
We fix it by exposing collectivism for the garbage ideology that it is. My rights cannot be questioned because of the actions of somebody else. Taking guns away from the millions of people who would have never killed anyone, store their guns safely, and are responsible gun owners does not solve the problem.
By the way, the fact that you idiots always talk about taking guns away from law abiding citizens, and none of you have ever talked about getting guns out of the hands of criminals specifically, shows your true motives.
>>77142173
>>77140278
>How do we fix this?
There's nothing broken there.
>>77142173
>Virtually anybody here can already buy a gun.
As it should be.
>Most choose not to, let alone carry one around everywhere they go.
That's their right.
>You certainly wouldn't see people carrying around automatics in movie theaters, nightclubs, etc.
So what?
>Repealing the act will not slow down the ever increasing killing sprees that are happening.
Our firearm rights aren't subject to "killing sprees".
>Come on, people. I looking for serious answers here.
Stop trying to infringe upon our rights when other law breakers break the law.
>>77142173
>certainly wouldn't see peopel carrying around automatics
>>77142173
100% wouldn't see it
>>77140278
Stop welcoming terrorists into the country with open arms. Oh and elect Donald J. Trump.
>>77142173
Unheard of
>>77142173
Impossible
>>77142173
Will never happen
>>77140278
Buy them all.
>>77154520
>An AR-15 would not help in the slightest against a tank or drone.
God, I love it when I get to post this image.
>>77153691
A well regulated militia is a people proficient at arms, not an inexplicable second army set up by people militantly opposed to having one standing army.
Even if guns were directly responsible for the murders, I don't want them touched, if for anything other then to deny those holier then thou liberal faggots the satisfaction.
Don't fucking comprise with these degenerates. They always ask for more, more and more.
>>77140278
You're right, those prices are way too high. The way to fix the problem is to call for government subsidies for firearms consumers. We should have the taxpayer finance a rifle for every home, as well as regular classes in marksmanship, proper gun safety, and weapon maintenance.
Then, for those who want extra protection, firearms purchases should be tax deductible, because in what sick world should freedom be taxed?
It wont fix the problem entirely, I agree, but its a good start.
>>77153691
>Some people should pay attention to the first bit of the second ammendment that says "A well REGULATED Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..."
>>77154744
I disagree because it's just an administrative hurdle
in US, there's an established system of background checks already in place for sales through FFLs and for private sales it is up to the seller to judge if the piece in question is going into good hands
there is absolutely no 100% foolproof way of making sure weapons don't end up in wrong hands!
take my country for example: law-abiding citizens have to jump through several hoops to obtain a license and register all pieces they posess
alternatively, I can get in touch with random gyppos and buy an AK47 from Balkan wars for about 250 EUR, thereby acquiring a black market piece that isn't registered anywhere, is altogether cheaper and doesn't require any qualification
>>77155253
And what does this image have to do with what I said?
Look into the actual conversation for context. You don't need to be able to fire dozens of rounds a minute to avoid being in a police state. That level of firepower is only needed for mowing people down.
This shooter wouldn't have killed 50 people with a glock.
>>77154744
>Assuming Regulated means trained and competent with their weapons.
>>77154520
You desperately need to read Solzhenitsyn if you think personal resistance is "moot"
http://klaw.com/we-didnt-love-freedom-enough-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
>>77155253
Love that pic
>>77153691
>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
The concept is that we need police / military for national defense, and thus the common citizens must also be able to own equal firepower to them, in case they start to abuse their power and a rebellion is necessary.
>I personally wouldn't get a gun coz I'd probably end up blowing my brains out in a moment of weakness.
I always hear anti-gunners saying stuff like this, "if I had a gun I'd probably go on a killing spree", blah blah blah. It's all projection. You don't trust yourself with a gun, so you assume others cannot be trusted with a gun either. What about the millions of gun owners who will never use their guns to kill an innocent person? Why should we lose our rights because of others' actions and mindsets?
>>77155864
>And what does this image have to do with what I said?
Only everything. This one too.
>You don't need to be able to fire dozens of rounds a minute to avoid being in a police state.
"Need". There's that word again.
It's called The Bill of Rights. It's not called The Bill of Needs.
>That level of firepower is only needed for mowing people down.
And?
>This shooter wouldn't have killed 50 people with a glock.
You don't know that though. You also don't know that if "DA ASSAULT RIFFELS WERE BANNED" that he wouldn't have just bought an illegal one from some gang that got it from fast and furious.
Meanwhile all you've really done is disarm the law abiding people of this country.
>>77156129
>Love that pic
It is great, isn't it?
>>77156129
No where did I imply resistance is moot.
Demanding unnecessarily higher fire power to combat the government is the moot point. It is unrealistic for every citizen to have access to military grade weapons.
My point was a rifle capable of firing dozens of rounds a minute is excessive. It isn't necessary to protect ourselves from the police or foreign invaders. Its only purpose is when you are outnumbered not when you are are outnumbering.
More diversity in your firepower.
>>77153691
What part of "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" don't you understand?
>>77155074
>>77155110
>>77155135
>>77155196
>>77155168
>implying any of those are auto
>>77156410
>It is unrealistic for every citizen to have access to military grade weapons.
Pic related.
>My point was a rifle capable of firing dozens of rounds a minute is excessive.
Our rights aren't subject to what you personally consider "excessive".
>>77156360
The Bill of Rights, or do you mean the constitution?
The 2nd amendment doesn't say we should be allowed access to automatic weapons.
You're making the common mistake of thinking I'm anti-gun. I am very much pro-gun, but I am against weapons that can be used for mowing people down.
Protecting ourselves from the government foreign invaders, etc. does not require the populace to be armed to the teeth. This should be common sense.
>You don't know that
Explain to me how a glock can kill 50 people with 15 rounds before it requires a reload?
Disarming people by banning weapons capable of mowing people down? I don't think so.
>>77140278
It's a shame such beautiful guns just sitting around. We really should be using use them to clean up the Muslim problem rather than just leaving them there to collect dust
>>77140440
Yes there is
Those guns aren't being used
>>77156722
That image is outdated though, I mean come on, it's 2016.
>>77156722
The military also had cannons. Were civilians allowed to own cannons?
And yes your rights are absolutely subject to what the people deem excessive. That's why automatics are federally banned for civilian use.
>>77140278
This threads are awesome to get some (Você)'s
>>77156915
>we shouldn't be allowed access to automatic weapons
We aren't, the registry is closed
>>77156915
The Bill of Rights is the Constitution, dumbass.
The 2nd Amendment also doesn't say that we shouldn't be allowed access to automatic weapons.
>but I am against weapons that can be used for mowing people down.
Then you are contradicting yourself, and you look like an idiot.
>Protecting ourselves from the government foreign invaders, etc. does not require the populace to be armed to the teeth.
Yes, it does.
You are an idiot and a traitor.
>>77157100
>not knowing most of the cannons from the revolutionary war were privately owned.
>>77156410
>It is unrealistic for every citizen to have access to military grade weapons.
Then it's even moreso for the government, because protecting you is not their priority.
>>77156410
>It isn't necessary to protect ourselves from the police or foreign invaders.
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Isoroku Yamamoto
Historically citizen gun ownership has prevented invasion, with Yamamoto directly admitting it. Who knows how many other invasions it could have prevented. But of course, you already knew this and just don't care.
>>77140278
>mfw a liberal unironically says the CDC should "investigate gun violence"
>>77157458
>because protecting you is not their priority.
You are the gov golden chicken. Of courcse they want to protect you
They just let you live, and you work for them independently
>>77157100
>And yes your rights are absolutely subject to what the people deem excessive.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
The ban is unconstitutional and the Marxists who enforce it should be hanged for treason.
>>77156915
>The 2nd amendment doesn't say we should be allowed access to automatic weapons.
Pic related.
>You're making the common mistake of thinking I'm anti-gun.
If you're trying to ban some guns but not others, you're anti-gun.
> but I am against weapons that can be used for mowing people down.
So you're anti-gun.
>Protecting ourselves from the government foreign invaders, etc. does not require the populace to be armed to the teeth.
In your opinion. And hey, if you don't want to use those firearms...fine. Stop trying to decide what's best for the rest of us. We believe those type of firearms ARE required.
The difference being, we're not trying to strip you of your rights not to own semi-auto rifles.
You're trying to strip us of our right to own semi-auto rifles.
>Explain to me how a glock can kill 50 people with 15 rounds before it requires a reload?
Training. Also, extended magazines.
>Disarming people by banning weapons capable of mowing people down? I don't think so.
Yes, because even if you ban the sale of semi-auto rifles, tens of millions of them will still exist.
Are you going to ban the parts of them so they can no longer be repaired?
Are you going to ban the ammunition of them so they can no longer be used?
Are you going to ban the reloading supplies so no one can make/load their own ammo?
Are you going to ban their import from other countries?
>>77157047
>That image is outdated though, I mean come on, it's 2016.
Yeah, I know. I haven't argued with gungrabbers in a while.
>>77157100
>The military also had cannons. Were civilians allowed to own cannons?
Yes, actually.
>And yes your rights are absolutely subject to what the people deem excessive.
the people and the politicians are two different groups.
>That's why automatics are federally banned for civilian use.
Those were banned by the politicians, not the public.
And quite frankly they never should have been.
>>77157323
Please don't jump into the conversation without reading the context.
>>77157394
It's only the first ten.
Automatic weapons didn't exist in in 1789. Do you think we should believing our founding fathers had the gift of omniscience?
How am I contradicting myself?
Explain to me how citizens armed with automatics would fair better against a police state than citizens armed with handguns?
>>77150571
is that a modified g36?
>>77157458
I'm not going to respond to tinfoils.
>>77157596
Again, not against rifles. Or guns. I am against excessive private ownership of guns like the AR-15. There's no reason why any Joe Shmo should be able to buy a gun that can fire dozens of rounds a minute before reloading. That isn't necessary. We can defend ourselves just fine with lower magazines.
Weapons that can fire that many rounds are for killing when you are outnumbered not for defending when you outnumber.
>>77157100
>And yes your rights are absolutely subject to what the people deem excessive.
No, they're not. Thankfully the constitution must be upheld, so idiots like you can't just throw away our rights on a whim.
>That's why automatics are federally banned for civilian use.
You can actually purchase a full auto, it's just a long, expensive process and most people settle for semi-automatics. Keep showing your ignorance. You've demonstrated you have no understanding of the second amendment, no knowledge of our laws, and you think you should just be able to wake up in the morning and ban whatever you want based on your "feelings".
>>77157793
>It's only the first ten.
Yes, and?
>Automatic weapons didn't exist in in 1789.
See: >>77156722
>How am I contradicting myself?
By saying your not anti-gun while calling for gun bans.
>Explain to me how citizens armed with automatics would fair better against a police state than citizens armed with handguns?
That doesn't even need an explaination. You're just a bootlicking traitor.
>>77157791
>wants every citizen to be able to buy automatic weapons and rocket launchers
If you honestly believe that would make us a safer country your level of lunacy is beyond reasoning with.
>>77157596
>Historically citizen gun ownership has prevented invasion, with Yamamoto directly admitting it.
Where does it imply that citizen ownership of weapons is what Yamamoto said? He could simply be refering that Americans were patriotic and would fight fearlessly. Well, the americans tought the same about invading mainland japs.
Did anyone in here say guns?
>>77157747
This. The day of the rope is not inclusively for niggers .
>>77143765
>but that is wrong
>the modern ar 15 is way less prone to malfunctions and is more resiliant to dirt and shit
it is still the only rifle in the world that needs a forward assist.
of course it's due to "possible substandard ammo"
>>77158099
>Again, not against rifles. Or guns.
>I am against excessive private ownership of guns like the AR-15.
There you go, contradicting yourself again.
Might as well renounce your citizenship now.
>>77158255
I'm not asking for gun bans. I am asking for high-magazine bans. The type of gun doesn't matter. It's how much firepower it can release in a given time that does.
Defense doesn't require you to be able to fire 50 rounds in under a minute against a small invading force.
>>77141047
Fuck that, I want a bazooka.
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77158267
And if you think that banning ARs and AKs will make us safer, then your are both delusional and a traitor.
>>77158099
>Again, not against rifles. Or guns. I am against excessive private ownership of guns like the AR-15. There's no reason why any Joe Shmo should be able to buy a gun that can fire dozens of rounds a minute before reloading. That isn't necessary. We can defend ourselves just fine with lower magazines.
>Weapons that can fire that many rounds are for killing when you are outnumbered not for defending when you outnumber.
This is an arbitrary restriction you are suggesting and it wouldn't keep anyone safer. The criminals aren't going to turn in their high capacity magazines, it would only affect the law abiding citizens.
Also, the founding fathers weren't stupid. They knew the technology would get better, and guns would evolve. Common citizens could own muskets when muskets were the gun of the military, and common citizens now should be able to own the guns identical to that of the modern military.
>>77158099
right, you should be the arbiter of what people can and cannot do, no danger in that whatsoever
I wonder how would you feel about some arbitrary restriction imposed upon one of your personal interests, e.g. all motorcycles should be capped at 100 horsepower, anything more is excessive
>>77151390
ar-15 still has forward assist due to its unreliability, sorry.
>>77158138
You can only own autos created prior to 1986. Look it up.
>>77157793
>Automatic weapons didn't exist in in 1789.
Yes they did.
>Do you think we should believing our founding fathers had the gift of omniscience?
So using your reasoning, the first amendment should not apply to telephone, internet, television and radio. None of those things existed when the first amendment was implemented. Right?
>>77158267
>If you honestly believe that would make us a safer country your level of lunacy is beyond reasoning with.
Said the person who wants the government to have a monopoly on force. The government has all those weapons (and worse) and have actually used some of them...but you think the American people should not have the ability to properly defend themselves.
>>77158535
And i want a nuke
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>MUH RIGHTS
>>77140278
>That falling block rifle at the top
I want that.
>>77140278
I don't see any fully auto weapons. We need less restrictions for everyday citizens to carry and police their places of work. Cops can't do everything, as citizens we should take this matter into our own hands.
>>77158886
>And i want a nuke
>>77140278
better lighting, maybe spot lights
>>77158832
>Yes they did.
source?
>So using your reasoning, the first amendment should not apply to telephone, internet, television and radio. None of those things existed when the first amendment was implemented.
First ammendment (freedom of speech) doesn't apply in the internet. You can get permabanned here and many other places.
>>77158514
What does it matter if a magazine holds ten or thirty rounds? Just buy three ten-round magazines and it's the same exact thing.
In many states with magazine restrictions, every part of the firearm, including the cartridge and the magazine, is considered a "firearm" for legal purposes. Under that broad interpretation, it is still unconstitutional as the right to keep and bear arms is being infringed, but the Marxists who operate the judicial system like to disagree.
>Defense doesn't require you to be able to fire 50 rounds in under a minute against a small invading force.
Yes, given the situation, it does. Why are you still arguing this delusion?
>>77158886
t. alberto barbosa
>>77158491
It's not a contradiction. I can be not against sex but against rape. That's not a contradiction either. I am not against defense but I am against assault.
>>77158582
I don't. I think keeping weapons like rocket launchers and high capacity magazines out of civilian hands keep us safer.
>>77158588
Can you name one instance where a criminal with a high capacity magazine was stopped by another citizen with a high capacity magazine?
He only needs one or two shots to be taken down.
>>77158597
It's called an opinion.
