Im a Fundamentalist Christian
ask me anything
>>77136887
What do different branches of christianity require for salvation? protestant/catholic/orthodox
>>77137085
Protestant/ Biblical
Saved By Grace through Faith
Eph 2:8-10
Justified by Faith
Romans 4
Romans 5:1
John 3:16
i dont think catholics teach a biblical doctrine, but if you wish to be saved Read Romans 1
John 3
Romans 10
and Get back to me :)
What's your take on Arianism? Was Jesus created by God and thus lesser?
>>77137857
Read John 1
>>77136887
Why do you believe in myths and baseless shit?
You are just faking it to get money, right?
No one can be dumb enough to believe in this nonsense.
How does it feel to follow an adult fairy tale?
>>77136887
According to Jesus, who is the, "New advocate", that we are to look for after Jesus is gone?
>>77136887
soup bro.
How was church yesterday?
MY POWER GROWS IMMENSE
>>77137946
Im not a pastor so i dont make a dime. The Gospel message is not based on works (John 3), You know this God exists (Romans 1), and if you dont Repent and put your trust in christ, you will stand before a just and holy God, and answer for your transgressions to him
>>77138203
there isnt, you put your trust in Christ alone for your salvation (John 3)
Jesus is the only way (John 14)
>>77138343
I was sick yesterday, :( but i found a good sermon on youtube
>>77138388
until Armageddon :)
>>77138415
Fuck him.
I shall never surrender to a serial murderer such as that demon you praise.
>>77138587
You're on the right track with John 14. However jesus does go away. That is the only way that the "New advocate" can come to us.
John 16:7.
Who is this new advocate?
>>77136887
What is your opinion on witchcraft? Do you think it's real or just fat goths playing pretend?
>>77139735
>John 16:7.
>>77139735
The Holy Spirit (Acts 1-2
>>77136887
Why don't you go back to your containment board >>>/his/
>>77136887
Fellow believer here. Keep up the work brother.
>>77139868
Spiritually yes, but i think most of the people performing it are just playing around, but it is very dangerous to play around with it
>>77139973
Religion plays a role in politics, sorry :(.
>>77139974
will do my Best
>>77136887
Why aren't you Jewish?
>>77140085
I suppose you think it's dangerous because at some point it involves Satan?
Why do you think it's mostly women that do it?
>>77139939
AKA the spirit of truth.
>>77136887
Why do you worship Joseph's wife's son?
>>77140452
i was Born a Gentile/Goy, but salvation is open to all races Acts 10-11
>>77138415
>You know this God exists (Romans 1)
Oh, it's the spic again. Disregard.
>>77140568
>>77140568
3rd person in the trinity
>>77139733
You mean the truth?
>>77139733
well if you want to answer for your transgressions, you already know you will be guilty on judgement day, and you know what will happen to you, i just want to tell you that you dont want to go there
>>77140751
Im White :) i already told you what you must do, have a nice day
>>77140993
Is living a good life but not praising god already a transgression though?
>>77141144
>i already told you what you must do
I told you too, yet there's still no evidence for your god or an explanation of you why you think what you know is the truth - and you still make thread about this >>>/x/ nonsense day after day.
At this point I think you're just a shitposting attention whore, honestly.
>>77136887
Do you teach other people that you can not lose salvation?
>>77141149
James 2:10
Have you lived a good life, and by whose standard? Im not better than you, im just better off
>>77141445
I don't own a bible I can do nothing with those numbers.
>>77141314
John 10:28
John 3:16
John 6:37
only what the bible says about it ;)
>>77141602
http://www.biblehub.com/
>>77141602
if you go to bible gateway, you can look at the verse and in multiple translations :)
>>77141670
>http://www.biblehub.com/
>For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
Man your god sure has high standards.
>>77141823
impossible standards, Be holy for i am Holy, thats why he came down and lived as a man, was crucified, and in three days rose from the dead (John 3:16), if you Repent (changemind) and put your trust in christ, he paid for your sins, and you will be an adopted child of God, and you will inherit the kingdom of Heaven
How do you know that the new testament and jesus is not a lie created by satan to make you a sinner in the eyes of the old testament god?
>>77142324
Have you read the Old testament?
psalms 22
Isiah 53
How old is the earth?
What happens to people who have no hope of hearing the word?
What happens to good people who had a chance to accept the word, but didn't?
>>77142247
If his standards are impossible, I don't know man. That's like my boss, you do your best and there is always something wrong with it. At that point I just give up and half ass.
Or quit.
Which is what I did with christianity.
>>77141650
James 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
John 15:5-6
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
If you fall away from Christ and His teachings, you can lose salvation.
If you accept Christ and then live your life sinfully, Christ will, on judgement day, turn from you and say,"Depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
>>77136887
Yall should try following christ after a life of sin, satan himself wont let you and you will start living trough some tough tests. Scary spooky stuff might start happend to you in the nights if you are lucky enough.
>>77142522
im personally a YEC
but its not mandatory for being a christian
Romans 1, everyone will be held guilty who does not accept christ, but those who did not hear the word, will recieve a lesser Judgement than those who do.
God has no obligation to save anyone, but maybe he wants to save you :), all you need to do is repent and put your trust in christ
read these chapters to help you understand the gospel message
Romans 1
John 3
Romans 10
>>77142437
http://www.artbible.info/bible/psalms/22.html
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+53
now i have, no mention of jesus by name.
So there is a forshadowing about the birth of a savior. Can you still be certain its jesus and the new testament? It could just be the devil tricking you.
>>77142949
Or Trump.
>>77142845
> Scary spooky stuff might start happend to you in the nights
I can attest to this.
Voices telling me to shut up while praying.
Feelings of some kind of a force trying to enter my body from above while I'm laying in bed.
I have been possessed before I found Christ.
It's all real.
Too real.
>>77142576
James talking about people who claim to have faith but no works, Eph 2:8-10 shows us that works are a result of our salvation, the demons have a logical faith, where the regenerate christian has a trusting faith, a trusting faith produces good works, i.e i do good works because im saved, not to get saved or remain saved
>>77136887
God bless you anon :)
>>77142845
John 10:28
why would I ask you any thing , get off my board.
>>77142576
God changes someone when they are saved,
the branches that withered where the jews under the old covenant that rejected christ
>>77143350
So, you would then argue that those who do not do good works and bear good fruit are not saved?
It goes hand in hand.
If you want to know which is more important, faith or works, it's as C.S. Lewis put it.
"It's like asking which blade in a pair of scissors is most necessary."
>>77142949
>Liar
>Lunitic
> Lord
pick one
>>77143590
Except He was talking to His disciples there, saying that THEY could fall away.
>>77142934
Why would someone who loves you eternally and deeply sentence someone to a life of eternal pain and misery for the sin of not being in the right geographic area at the right time and place? That seems arbitrary at best and spiteful at worst.
>>77143131
i forgot the verse, but if you are ever feeling scared or doubful, read the first epistle of John
why do you believe in a 3,000 year old sand nigger book about a dead kike on a stick?
>>77143970
Because within it is the Truth and the Way of Life.
>>77143632
Eph 2:10
says works are the result of faith
if some one says they are saved, but their walks dont match their talk, there is a chance that they had a false conversion which is why many will say lord lord on the day of judgement
>>77143764
so what must somebody do to keep their salvation?
>>77141295
https://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=5045
>>77144016
How do you know that without using circular logic?
>>77143970
How is the passage of time an indication of anything?
Galilee and Jerusalem aren't even sand territories.
>>77144193
Believe in Christ and live the way He commanded.
By loving God with your whole being, and loving your neighbor as yourself as the whole of all the commandments rests upon that.
>>77143785
God is loving, but he also is holy and punishes evil, we are all guilty of sin, the fact that he saves anybody is a mercy
Nothing to ask you freaks.
>>77136887
If I blasphemed the Holy Spirit, is my soul damned regardless of whether I seek salvation through Jesus Christ?
Why does g*d want to punish us if for the flaws he himself imbued us with?
>>77144338
have you always kept all of the commandments after being saved?
Are you in favor of the death penalty?
I've noticed that a lot of Christians are in favor of the death penalty, but what about Jesus? He was put to death through the proper legal channels in his time.
Seems to me that believing in the death penalty is anti-Christian.
>>77144511
do you know what blaspheming the holy spirit is, if you are worried about doing it you havent done it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdnLgIVF6Ow
>>77144233
I have read the Bible, and I don't merely agree with the words of Christ, but they seem to resonate within me.
Each person's path towards finding God is unique.
I can guarantee you one thing:
If you search for God earnestly, you will certainly find Him.
>>77144513
to demonstrate all aspects of his character to his creation,
>>77144624
Read Romans 13
>>77144624
Jesus did nothing wrong, and was falsely accused, whereas people who incur the death penalty have usually taken the life of one or more others (or worse).
>>77144527
No, not one person has, but it's the struggle we all deal with all the way up until we die.
It's the hard fought battle against the rulers of darkness and principalities.
We must strive to enter in at the strait gate, for wide is the way that leads to destruction, and narrow the path that leads to salvation.
>>77144233
You will never get anywhere without "circular logic". Truth becomes manifest at some point, you won't get it otherwise.
Which doesn't mean that it shouldn't be rational, but you'll never get n answer about meaning if you don't believe in things. Otherwise you get stuck into Descartes and Husserl phenomenology, which is the based philosophy but will never answer anything.
>>77144527
And few there be that find it.
>>77137451
>i dont think catholics teach a biblical doctrine
>i dont think the people who wrote the bible teach a biblical doctrine
Kill your self
>>77144910
Read Romans 6
John 3
After someone has died to sin, they are a new creation, this is why after someone is spiritually born again, they become a new creature and changed in the process of sanctification,
>>77143707
i dont get it.
>>77144961
i agree ultimately only those God the father gave to Jesus
John 6:37
>>77136887
Tell us a mad Joke.
Bob gets it.
>>77145122
So, your arguement is that if someone is not producing good works, then they are not truly saved and have not truly accepted Christ?
It is a valid argument, however it is dangerous to tell new Christians that they can't lose salvation once they have accepted Christ, because that leads many to believe they have a license to sin, or so to speak.
>>77145106
Eph 2:8-10
Romans 4; Romans 5:1
Galations 1:6-10
does the catholic church teach differently then paul?
>>77137451
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
>>77136887
Why do you worship the jew god
>>77145148
if Jesus was a liar, then he didnt rise from the dead, and his followers who were with him died for a lie
if he was a lunatic then how could he have thought so quick to respond to the traps the pharasees played on him, the adulterous woman, giving to ceaser.
if he was lord, than the bible is consistent with these things.
>>77145298
here is a good web link on eternal security
not trying to web bomb you, but as op i have to respond to a lot of questions
http://carm.org/what-is-once-saved-always-saved
http://carm.org/are-we-justified-faith-romans-or-works-james
>>77145418
explanation of james from an expert
http://carm.org/are-we-justified-faith-romans-or-works-james
>>77145484
Because he is the God of everyone, Romans 1
>>77145418
The meaning is that if we believe and bring forth no good works, then our faith is not doing anything.
>[21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
If these passages were talking about salvation, then the above scripture would conflict directly with:
>[2] For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
>[3] For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Abraham was justified in the sight of men by his works because they could see him doing stuff with it. In the sight of God he was not made righteous by his works, but by faith alone.
If we could work our way to heaven, Christ would not have need to die for us and we would not even need to believe on him at all.
>[21] I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNX-bYcOco4
>>77144341
Punishing someone for having a defect that you put there in the first place is pretty nonsensical. So is saying, oh hey I have everything in here that you need, just don't touch this specific tree.
Honestly, God just sounds like a dick or maybe he's just really shitty at creation?
>>77136887
Are gays going to hell even if they believe in God?
>>77145998
So is Allah. You were born muslim like everyone is, you know that since I've informed you.
Why haven't you converted yet?
>>77144739
>>77144016
That means nothing. It's pretty and poetic, but ultimately means very little.
>>77146521
It's the short answer to a very complicated question.
Try honestly searching for God, or are you content in ignorance?
>>77146173
does God have an obligation to save anyone, im sorry that the creator of the universe doesnt conform to your standards, he offered a way for you to escape his judgement
Romans 1
John 3
Romans 10
i really dont want you to go to hell, but you must repent and put your trust in christ if you wish to be saved.
>>77144624
Unlike islam sheniggans and Gnostic/millenarist heretics, we do not believe in the implementation of any law to transform creation or even human societies. When some 17th century puritans tried to set up God's law, all they could do was a timid half-assed adaptation of the laws of Moses, because there is no more Christian law than there are Christian shoes.
Personally, I oppose death penalty not because of any supposed grand principle but because it's impracticable in a sure manner. Executions of innocents are always lurking around the corner, the procedures necessary for termination are long and expensive. A sentence should be modifiable. In practice it would also be used in political affairs, where one man can make the difference.
>>77136887
Doing God's work OP.
He shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward.
>>77136887
What is your opinion of the impact of vicarious redemption on societal norms?
For example:
>Murderer murders some folks
>"Find" Jesus
>Serve some jail time and move on with your life like it never happened
>Jesus loves me and that makes me "OK"
How does this make sense in a universe of seemingly endless injustices? It gets better:
>2 y/o child gets cancer
>dies
How does this best demonstrate God's mercy or plan for us all?
To show I'm not an ignorant shill, 1 Samuel 21 gives an example of a time God condoned David lying to priests to help overthrow Saul. Not many people caught that, and nobody that did catch it let it shake their faith (even though it was a direct violation of the ninth commandment.
Also, what do you think of pic related?
>>77136887
>(((Christ)))
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>77146521
God is Righteous, holy, just, gracius and merciful,
if he sent everyone to hell, we would see his justice and holiness, but not his grace and mercy
if he sent us all to heaven, we would see his grace and mercy, but not his justice
if he sends some to heaven and some to hell, we see all aspects of his character
the thing is i dont have a list of who goes where , so i proclaim the gospel to all, in the hope that they recieve it and put their trust in christ, because he paid for the sins of those who will, collosians 2:16
>>77145618
but none of that answer my question.
How do you know the new testament is not written by satan and jesus never existed or was satan himself in disguise?
>>77146732
So God works like the protection racket?
>You have a nice soul there. It would be a shame for it to burn in eternal hell fire.
Sure the mobster is getting paid and you don't get your business trashed, but he's still being an extortionist dick.
>>77136887
>ask me anything
Fuck off to >>>/b/ , cuck.
>>77144016
Lol.
>>77146849
Biblical christianity is unique in the sense that its not based on the works that you do, but the works God did, all that you can do is put your trust in the one that did the works to save Jesus Col 2:16
>>77136887
>Salvation is a Free Gift
So is AIDS.
>>77147563
why the jews hated jesus and his deciples so much
>>77147282
How do you know he is all of those things without invoking that the bible is the word of God? Just because something is written, does not make it true.
>>77147590
Either accept his gift and beforgiven of your sins, or answer for your sins to a just and holy God
>>77146684
>Ignorance
Putting yourself on a pedestal above others is pride. Isn't that a sin?
>>77147713
your absolutely right.
personal experience from a former non beleiver (i assume you wont find that valid)
Secular works that talk about Jesus i.e Tacitus, Josephus, plenny the younger, etc
the Bible has some pretty strong historical evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkllFXIsV6M
check this out if you wanna look at the evidence for the validity of scripture
>>77147569
You didn't answer my questions, though.
People come to religion for answers to burning questions. When you get to the hard ones, the answer is "trust in the Lord..."
Hebrews 11:1 talks about faith:
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Why should I accept "on faith" that there's a universal turnabout? Suffering is understandable (justifiable) when there's actions that create the circumstances that govern it.
A child that cannot fathom accountability has no discernible reason to develop a debilitating disease leading to suffering and death that would be quantifiable to a murderer or outright blasphemer.
>>77144513
no one's stopping you, especially not God, from freely escaping punishment through accepting Christ, so your point is moot.
>>77147895
were not better than you, everyone deserves hell, but because of Jesus christ's sacrifice, those that are in the covenant are better off
>>77148395
The Greek word is pistus which means to trust or to have loyalty, i put my trust in christ the same way that you put your trust in a chair when you sit in it
>>77148395
no one comes to religion for answers to questions that don't have any real answers. rather skeptics use such questions to justify themselves, but will God be so charitable? only God knows.
>>77147873
Any god worth my time would make himself known through supernatural means, not a man-made text.
After all, he IS a God, right? Surely he can convince me using his Godly powers, not ancient forms of human communication.
hey Brothers...
check out some of the following preachers on youtube:
pastor Steven Anderson (a /pol/ favorite)
Ralph Yankee Arnold (great stuff)
Dr. Bob Wilkin (this guy is pretty awesome. check out his debate with Dr. James White. i think he destroyed White)
>>77148955
He did (Romans 1), but we supress this truth in our sinful nature,
read Romans 1:18-22
>>77149039
i dont like steven anderson, he doesnt have a clue on New covenant theology
what part did james white lose to Bob wilkins
>>77149120
>he did
I didn't see it. He's almighty. If he truly cares, he'll prove himself out. Otherwise I'm inclined to believe he doesn't actually give a fuck and his followers are retarded morons buying snake oil. And let me be clear. I'm no Atheist. I'm also not a christard. Or a kike. Or a mudslime. Irrational psychosis is not on my menu.
>>77149243
>what part did james white lose to Bob wilkins
the entire debate.
i'm actually a big fan of White. i think Wilkin destroyed him in the debate. this was actually my introduction to the Free Grace vs. Lordship Salvation debate, and it changed my mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOHg1FhyGOs
Salvation, as OP said, is FREE. Lordship Salvation is a mess of contradictions and human thought intruding on Bible doctrine
>>77148955
well God uses plenty of other means, a prominent one being His followers. we're telling you right now what's up. this is the way to live your life. you will only find bondage through any other path. believe it or not.
>>77136887
thanks for the thread op, some very usefull insights right here.
What i want to ask is this:
If i live a "good" life measured in christian values, believe in Jesus Christ and the bible but do not attend church nor consider myself belonging to any major denominations, can i be saved ?
Btw, have some beautifull orthodox chant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28x_-HX08qU
>>77149596
what snake oil is there to buy if you are justified by putting your trust in Christ alone, everyone knows he exists, and to reject that, you give up knowlege
>>77149619
please share with me these contradictions
>>77149596
Based on what you say you dont care. If you dont care why should god take extra steps to get you to believe? What makes you special? You owe god not the other way around.
>>77149732
hypothetically yes, but when you are saved/ spiritually born again, you find yourself a new creature and drawn to christ
http://carm.org/what-is-once-saved-always-saved
>>77150235
i was baptised to the orthodox church as a child, but lost my faith when i was a edgy teenager. currently finding my way back to it.
If i understand this right, i can consider myself as saved wheter i continue on the righteous path of christ or not ?
>>77149700
>well God uses plenty of other means, a prominent one being His followers.
None of his means are supernatural or godly. It's all bullshit created by men.
If he really is a god and cares, he'll prove it. Using means that only a god could provide.
>>77149889
>what snake oil is there to buy
Ignorance. Ignorance and peace of mind are opiates, and like any other opiate, people seek it out to calm their minds and souls.
That's the value.
The snake oil salesmen are selling you peace and tranquility because you are afraid to stare reality in the face, or you're just uncomfortable with reality. So you seek serenity via "salvation" which takes away the pain of the possibility that when you die, everything you know dies with you and all turns to eternal nothing. The universe dies when you die.
That's a frightening thought to most people because most people have an ego. And losing that ego is the scariest thing they can imagine.
In short, you're being sold an ego masturbator. The idea that you're important enough for a higher being to care about. The idea that you, your ego, are eternal.
>>77150101
>If you dont care why should god take extra steps to get you to believe?
Because your god apparently is a loving one, and love is not conditional.
>>77150579
were you really saved, that is the question, false conversions do happen, contrary to what the orthodox church says, John 3 is not talking about baptism, but a spiritual salvation, if you feel that your not saved right now here is what you need to do, get down on your hands and knees and ask God for a changed mind, and after that put your trust in christ, and if you took it seriously, you will be saved
>>77150705
>>77150705
do you know that?
>>77150019
leaving work right now, so i have to go, but i would suggest any of the Grace Evangelical Society videos on youtube. they explain it well, and Ralph Yankee Arnold has some sermons on the topic that are very good, too
>>77151126
okay
>>77148337
As a former believer and raised as a Christian, I find it valid, but as I grew up, many things didn't add up to me about what I was taught. Learning about other religions, I came to see similar themes in all of them. Judgement, sin, divine intervention, faith, resurrection, the soul, death, afterlife, etc. I took it then as peering into the infinite and collectively sensing something above, but I've come to the conclusion that it is man attempting to order the universe according to his understanding. When I look into the void, all I see is chaos.
Don't get me wrong, the things that Christianity teaches are great. I have a devout friend who ministers to the poor and is the best person I have ever met in my life. A living Saint, if you will, and I idolize and respect him for it. What he does for complete strangers is something I aspire to be able to do myself, but I just don't have any faith in me and I'm not sure I ever did.
>>77147439
>
i bet this pissed off some un repentant Jews when they heard this
>>77151047
I know ego can be a bitch.
That's why, once you shatter your ego once, or a few times, things like death are no longer of any concern. You realize that death is like pre-birth.
I don't remember anything or have any recollection of anything prior to age 3 or so, and that's what's gonna be when it's over. Nothing scary about that. I'm not ready for it yet, mind you, as I'm still living the experience and would prefer it to go on for a bit more, and I'll eventually put my adventure into words to be passed along into the future.
But mortality and satan and shit? Nah. In the end, "satan" is just behaviors in humans that stress ego and selfishness, not a spiritual being, and to live a healthy life here, it's best to keep your ego and selfishness under control. That's a rule of nature more than anything.
Don't limit yourself, but don't go out of control either.
>>77151595
not trying to insult you but go to bible gateway and read Romans 1:18-22 and get back to me :)
>>77151831
do you know that or do you just assume it?
>>77152004
I know it, since science has pretty much figured out what "ego" is.
Think about it like this. If the spirit, or the soul as you might call it, was supernatural, how come chemical substances here in the physical world can completely shut down ego and consciousness?
How come I can do an epic dose of etizolam and ketamine and basically lose all sensation and thought for a few days, essentially stopping my "spirit" or "soul" dead in its tracks.
How come my ego can be smashed to pieces via heavy 5-HT2a agonism?
Pharmacology essentially explains "spirituality."
>>77153274
>>77153274
but doesnt the scientific method make certain assumptions, ie the laws of nature will remain constant, and doesnt natural science only test the means of a natural world, can you use science to test the super natural?
>>77153552
That's the point.
There's nothing supernatural about consciousness and the soul, since these are fully affected by physical chemical means.
If there was a higher supernatural component, ketamine wouldn't be able to shut it down. It would be above such lowly physics.
>>77153552
>>77154663
Mind you I'm not saying a higher power does not exist, since that too is within the realm of logic.
I'm just saying that what we think of as the soul is 100% at the mercy of the physical universe and thus is not supernatural.
>>77146849
Not OP but if you don't mind my take on it, when you find Jesus you're supposed to be made a new person, but that doesn't mean that just because Jesus forgave your past sins doesn't mean you don't have to pay for them in earthly life later on. If you were a mass murderer in the pass and somehow wasn't put on death row and were able to get released, you should actually more feel compelled to try and make some sort of amends with the people you wronged, even if you know they'll never forgive you, because that's what God would want you to do I believe.
On the other hand, the 2 year old child with cancer demonstrates God mercy in a way that's hard for me to explain personally besides saying that it's a mercy since while the child does die physically, spiritually they live on and are reunited with God in Heaven where they are free of any suffering on earth. As said, I'm not best at this but I hope that helped a little anon
To tolerate gays: They just have these urges, these thoughts that are different. They are inbred urges maybe, right? They can't fight off these urges that they have going on.
>>77151925
If I read it right, "if you don't believe after being presented the word, you're an idiot deserving of punishment."
This goes to something curious I heard growing up. I was told time and time again that it's okay to question your faith, that it was healthy even, and in that your faith would grow. However, the underlying subtext was always, "you better come back to the faith." That there was a right and wrong answer to the questioning.
That's not really how that works. If I asked you, "Do you want Mexican or Thai for dinner?" Then, when you said "Thai," tell you you're wrong and you want Mexican, that's not a question since I already decided for you ahead of time. There isn't a right or wrong answer to the question of "faith." You have it, or you don't, and I don't have it. You may worry about my soul, as many have before you, but for me personally, religion doesn't fulfill anything in me and never has.
Posting quotes from the bible doesn't much help because when I read the bible, I just see another myth narrative of the human experience. I don't see a divine spark.
>>77139868
It's real
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D205IWvJDWY
>>77136887
Ah, I wish I could believe as you do, but my experience with religion was quite disappointing. I realize that everyone has a need to submit to a higher power, be it a celebrity, a boss, a wife, or a God, but people give up an extraordinary amount of their free will in doing so.
If one can reasonably link a couple verses together to support a thesis, you'll be able to make 80% of Christians do damn near anything. Same with Muslims. The others will be more skeptical, and ask questions, and try to poke holes in your ideas. If you can think up a couple clever replies to obvious objections, you're well on your way to establishing your own cult.
Thats why i value critical thinking so much more than simply learning doctrine. If you just accept whatever teaching you hear in a sermon, you're literally allowing yourself to be programmed.
God may be real, but theres no way in hell I'd want to associate with organized religion ever again.
>>77158994
If we are the product of our genetics, do we have free will?
With belief in God read Romans 1
>>77136887
Who do you worship the Israeli National god if you're not a Jew?
Bump tbph
>>77160731
I believe in the one true God, the God of all, he used the Jews to bring about his atonement for all of the world, but the Jews who rejected the son, are the Jews we have today. Jesus is the only way to heaven
>>77136887
Is baptism required for salvation?
>>77162519
No, you are Justified by faith
Romans 4
Romans 5:1
Eph 2:8-10
John 3
It's very important, it's a public declaration of your faith, but it's not what saves you
>>77155998
Have you repented and put your trust in Christ, I used to have bisexual desires prior to my salvation
>>77162824
Ok. I'm still going to get baptized, but this guy I know has been nagging me that I'm going to hell unless I get baptized right this instant. Thanks for the info.
>>77164802
I grew up church of Christ, so i know what your talking about. Go to YouTube look up Matt slick v Tim kernan
>>77164802
Go to Carm too, they have some articles on it
>>77165295
I'll have a look. Keep up the good work, man
>>77165517
God willing :)
>>77136887
boxers or briefs?
