All memes aside, there is absolutely no reason why the general population should be allowed to buy an AR-15.
>>77124573
Bro, it's just a rifle, stfu.
>muh amendment
was never meant for such weapons and is outdated anyway
There's no reason we shouldn't.
>>77125018
You said all memes aside
why are you memeing
stop
That's why I own a battle rifle
>hurr durr only the bad guys will have gunz tho
When is the last time you had your assault rifle with you in a club or the way to work or even in your car? If anyone can buy it, only the bad guys will have it in a firing situation.
>>77124573
Germany as a country is such a failure. We should have never saved you. We should have never helped you.
This time we won't save you from the refugees.
Enjoy the third world faggot.
>>77125018
Yeah, we should definitely be more like Germany and let the government do whatever it likes.
>>77124573
We told that to the Irish. They found a reason and fought tooth and nail against a huge, strong empire and won. Thats why the population needs guns.
france no guns bans
still get shot up in club
>>77124573
>Germany
Opinion discarded.
>>77124573
Every American household should have one of those faggot
>>77125169
When is the last time you used your gun to stop the evil government from hurting you?
>>77124573
Why do you hate guns so much?
>>77124573
BILL
OF
RIGHTS
>>77125162
how exactly did burgers help germany?
>>77124573
So the AR is bad but the mini-14 is OK right even though there the exact same functionally. I will keep my rifle thank you and my pistol since they have done more than police have twice.
Each their own truly. I don't mind long as they are sound minded.
SHALL
>>77125286
Why do you like them?
>>77125141
Why do you care about what Americans do 5 thousand miles away from you?
You should be more concerned about preparing your sister for the muslim train thats gonna be run in her tonight.
>>77124573
All memes aside, I know you khalicucks from Germany are devoid of any sense of civil rights and aren't capable of actually planning for the future, but there are plenty of reasons why civilians should be able to buy AR15 rifles, or any kind of rifles for that matter.
To name the few, starting with the most important ones, protection of yourself and your loved ones. Every free man should be capable of doing that. Hunting, sports and gun collecting are next in line.
More people die in car accidents in United States (since we're talking about them) but no one cries out for stricter driving ed, even though a fucking cripple with no arm and only one eye can get a licence there. So please, keep your progressive Merkel shit to your shitty ruined failed state.
>>77125208
>Using this false logic
kys
>>77125260
When was the last time your government trampled on free speech?
>>77125356
Not an argument.
>>77124573
>allowed
I think you're confused over who is in charge
>Listening to a cucked kraut ever.
>no reason Jews should have guns
>worked out well for them
>>77124573
these is absolutely no reason why any country needs rapefugees, yet here you are.
>>77125423
>muh declurashun
just stop dude....
>>77124573
Other than the 2nd amendment, and a mans right to defend his home, his family, and his country from RADICAL ISLAM.
>>77124573
>66% of modern war casualties are civilians
>Obama was pising to get full auto mil rifles to Syrian resistance
>Muh government tyranny prevention
>Many mass shootings can be committed worth pump shotguns or bolt rifles from a distance
>muh explosives
>muh garage made sarin
>muh garage made pipe smg
>>77125018
I'm pretty sure whatever contemporary small arms exist is exactly what it was meant for.
>>77125018
>>77124573
>bill of rights not a bill of needs
>muh super tech no one imagined
can be applied to anything, the founders could have never imagined what things like twitter or 4chan so those are not covered under free press or speech
>hurr let's make natural rights that exist the instant you are born until you are found incompetent by a jury of your peers a simple privilege in the first place
Thanks for playing Muhammad
>>77125356
You can defend your country guerrilla warefare
>>77124573
This sort of weapon can kill tens of people in a matter of seconds in the right situation. A hand gun can't. It's not a weapon meant for defence and there is no way you can justify owning it without resorting to "muh 200 year old constitution".
>>77125337
What is the Marshall plan? What is West Berlin Air Drop? What are American military bases facing down the USSR in Germany for 50 years?
>>77124573
You're right, meme tier ammo should be banned since it is false advertising.
People should choose a PTR clone instead
>>77125505
>no don't talk about the document that affirms your rights
>>77124573
except this is a meme you fucktard
SHALL NOT
>>77125018
You're not one of us so your opinion is irrelevant. I don't know why I bothered to respond since this is obvious bait
>>77125337
>further confirms your ignorance to history
kill yourself child
>>77125018
>all memes aside
>starts spewing memes
Going by that logic the 1st amendment only covers written parchment and that the internet is not covered. Repeating weapons existed back then and the world was on the cusp of industrialization, they weren't stupid.
>>77125380
see >>77125544
it is literally not a defensive weapon
Will there ever be a thread about firearms by a European poster that isn't trolling?
>>77124573
>>77125018
what a fag, starts a bait thread and then starts shilling before anyone even says anything
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>77124573
1992 LA riots
educate yourself
>>77124573
You're a hoplophobe. Sad!
>>77124573
It's right here, faggot, take it.
>>77125544
A handgun can do the same thing in the hand of trained and motivated individual. Don't be so naive. Almost every firearm today can reach a rate of fire necessary to inflict mass casualties, it's just that 99,999% of firearm owners are not demented muslims.
![the-bundy-ranch-standoff[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/N4jVHJM.jpg "the-bundy-ranch-standoff[1].jpg")
>>77125260
>Gov want to buy land for cheap to exploit a mineral
>Use all kind of shit to kick the local ranchers out
>Even flood an entire part of the county
>Send a guy to jail two time because of nothing
>This happen
>>77125544
>A hand gun can't kill tens and tens of people
At Virginia Tech it did....
>Its not meant for defense!
Then why do the cops have them?
>>77124573
Jesus christ why are people so stupid. Look up these weapons will you? PUCKLE GUN, the Pepper box Flintlocks, Giradonia Air Rifle which was a 20 round magazine.
The argument that the Second amendment did not anticipate innovation or technological advancement in firearms is stupid.
The reason WHY it says bear arms is because the founding fathers KNEW weapons would change overtime and wanted it to be possible for civilians to own weapons with which to defend themselves from both Domestic and Foreign foes.
Look over the second amendment you tool, it differentiates between the State and the People pretty hard. Only idiots on the left or from Europe seem to think that it means only hunting rifles or muskets where it never says these things.
>>77124573
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
According to the government, police are not here to protect u.s. citizens.
>>77125505
Does your culture embarrass you? Maybe you should get the fuck on out of here then
>>77125018
>was never meant for such weapons
Civillians had access to every bit of equipment the military had when the constitution was written. Also, what are "such weapons"? There were rifled muskets with 20 round internal magazines on the Lewis and Clark expedition.
>>77125584
>one of us
All it takes for becoming "one of you" is to happen be born on the soil. Nice special club you have.
>>77125646
But it is. Just because it serves other purposes doesn't mean one of them isn't defensive.
>>77125750
What riot is that?
>>77124573
there's absolutely no reason you should be allowed to voice your opinion, yet here you are
>>77125385
ellaborate pls
>>77125018
Don't you have a reeducation camp to attend?
Who the fuck are you to say what someone should or shouldn't be allowed to have?
>>77125018
>muh free speech
was never intended for the likes of the internet and email and stuff like that
>>77125753
>>A hand gun can't kill tens and tens of people
>At Virginia Tech it did....
In the scope of seconds or minutes?
>Then why do the cops have them?
Cops get them in special situations which require it. Unless you will have it with you all the time, you will never ever use it for defence.
>>77124573
Its not called the bill of needs, Hans. Now go prep the bull.
>>77125976
>In the scope of seconds or minutes?
yes
>only cops get them in special situations
>you will never use it for self defense
tell that to the people who defended themselves with guns 2 million times last year
>>77125646
Every single weapon can be offensive and defensive. Combat is not a one way street, although seeing your level of ignorance regarding the subject, and your lack of knowledge, I can see where you drew your conclusions from.
A semi-automatic rifle that fires an intermediate cartridge is a great defensive weapon. In combat your goal is not to play fair in sense that if your attacker has a pistol, you have to answer his aggression with a pistol as well. You want to stop that person from inflicting harm to you, and you want to do it as soon as possible, and as quickly as possible.
A rifle such as the AR15 pattern rifles, AKM pattern rifles, or anything similar allows you to have a better or at least equal chance in a fight.
![bundy-ranch-militia[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EZMdgj8.jpg "bundy-ranch-militia[1].jpg")
>>77125908
Google the name.
>>77125956
and that's why there have been a number of laws modifying the effect on these
>>77124573
Our shooter wasn't "general population." He worked in security and had the proper clearances.
Because under Killary's watch the investigation was suspended, he was allowed to purchase his weapon of choice.
It wouldn't have mattered though. He could have accomplished the same thing chemically.
>>77125786
he means you are not one of us in the sense that you did not be born and grow up in a free society as John Locke would envision it.
I don't ASK permission to own any of my guns, I was born with the RIGHT to do it
I don't pay any tax on the tobacco I grow and use/sell, because it is MY property.
I don't have to wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle because it is MY life and MY property
There is no "we" there is no "collective" our rights are individual rights that are intrinsic to our existence, we didn't "need" a reason to have them other than being born.
>>77125926
UnderRated Post!
>>77125695
other than NFA, FFA, GCA, LEOPA, FOPA, CCA
your forefathers dropped the ball on that one, correct their mistakes
>>77126136
>and that's why there have been a number of laws modifying the effect on these
No.
>>77124573
shit thread
sage
>>77125505
You should probably leave to a "Free Country" like Britain so you don't have to worry about those pesky rights that our country is founded on.
>>77126092
>Every single weapon can be offensive and defensive.
Wrong. In a combat situation, only the attacker will be prepared to use it.
>>77125544
That's why destructive devices are banned, but yes a semi auto firearm can help if you miss, have only one usable hand, multiple assailants, etc. Time is always of the essence and cops/armed forced use multiple shots to ENSURE the threat is eliminated. Not *pop* "I get you old sport?!" "Yeah pretty bad, I could die, I'm still gonna stab ya!" "Right o, just one sec let me rack this *unghh* but y?" "Idgaf about your life nigga!"
>>77124573
It's a good thing no American gives a fuck about your opinion.
>>77124573
It's going to be banned in the EU toward the end of the year. Happy now, leftard? Knowing that only the state is armed makes you hard?
>>77124573
It is time for you to prep the bull.
>>77125976
>Cops get them in special situations
OYE VEY some are more equal than others?!? sorry that's now how freedom works. Who defines a special situation? You? The government? A panel of individuals who know NOTHING about your life or circumstances?
> you will never ever use it for deference.
So you know my future? What's my wining lotto numbers?
Real talk being a citizen in the USA by just birth within it's boarders or to US parents is retarded and should be changed.
Citizenship and it's rights should be earned.
If you're a veteran then you should be able to own Assault Rifls, pistols and military weapons and Augments
If you have done nothing for the country then you can only have single round bolt action rifles and shot guns.
>>77124573
So... Just the AR-15?
Not the AR-10, AR-16, AR-20, STAG-15, FAR-15, or any of those variants?
No M1A's or Mini-14's?
tell me whats the difference between these two semi-automatic rifles firing the same bullet?
>>77125544
"Defensive weapon" The god damn 2nd amendment doesn't specify defensive weapon does it? Theres a reason for that.
>>77124573
You're right ar's sucks
Bullpup is the true religion
>>77126331
>some are more equal than others?!?
yes, that is exactly how police works in civilised countries
>>77126291
>Mme President
>>77124573
I'm a farmer.
Coyotes and foxes are pack hunting predators, they poach dozens of my flock per season and leave carcasses I have to clean up before larger predators (bears, bobcats) come to pick the bones.
Having an automatic weapon makes controlling these predators effortless. The State of New York agreed with me and issued an automatic ownership permit to me without push back.
I'm only 60 miles north of NYC and have more firepower here than at Camp Smith guaranteed.
>tfw mow down coyotes and foxes every week, neighbors thanking me for removing a dangerous threat to their livelihoods.
>>77126291
>>77126251
>>77125748
>>77125423
>>77124573
I you want to try...
It is my RIGHT to own a gun. Why don't you go mate with a fucking mudslim ape you retarded leftist.
>>77124573
>Has a rail on the upper receiver
>mounts the optics on the handguard
I agree OP that is a travesty.
>>77125908
It's not even a riot.
Police show up in force. Supporters show up with horses and rifles.
They stare at each other and the police go home.
>>77124573
#THIS IS AN AUTOMATED POST
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>>77125976
Hey Germanbro. See there's this thing. It's called the Bill of Rights. Not the bill of Needs.
You don't need a seatbelt in a car until you do. Just like you don't need a firearm to protect yourself, until you do.
Better to have it and not need it, then to not have it and need it.
>>77124573
To stop the terrorists with assault rifles like the ones in france, where the gun laws did absolutely nothing and no one could fight back, not even the police forces since they didnt train enough.
That and to overthrow a government that infringes on peoples rights, like that to own guns. Its pretty much set in stone, you try to take it away and millions of people will die.
Advocating against gun rights should land you in prison and be considered seditious speech. These people should just be executed for crimes against the state, the Piers Morgan types, and really any bloggers or anything who advocate against the rights granted by the constitution.
>>77126399
One is scary-looking and therefore an assault rifle, most likely an AR-15.
The wooden one is OK since wooden weapons must be older and therefore safer.
>>77126270
>Wrong. In a combat situation, only the attacker will be prepared to use it.
Let's forget about all the times victims defended themselves with guns and othe weapons.
>>77126270
Preparedness to fight, and ability to fight are two different things. If you're driving down the road and someone opens fire on you with an AR15, his chances of winning that fight are greater. That is the nature of an ambush. But if you don't have an AR of your own to fight back with, not only are you not prepared to fight, but you are not able to fight.
Besides, you would be surprised how often the attacker chokes up when the victim fights back. These terrorists are not usually well trained or experienced in combat. If you haven't experienced being under fire, no amount of prayer will help you since your body defaults to fight or flight. Just by fighting back, your chances of survival are greater. I'd like to have that chance, and the ability to fight back.
>>77125087
That's because you're a Man among Men.
>>77126422
>yes, that is exactly how police works in civilized countries
And there we have it... get back in your bread line comrade, this food is for high ranking party officials... of course we are all equal comrade.. some are just more equal than others.
That isn't freedom, it's fine that you want to live like that or are okay with it, but I'm not. Every person was born equal with the right to life, liberty, and property. We all get the same fucking rights regardless who we are or what we do.
>>77126720
>
This
>>77124573
Is there any reason why Nazi's get themselves all concerned about why things are the way they were in America? Go play with Merkel's Migrants and get molested or someshit.
>>77126399
is this an "assault weapon?"
>>77126422
I know you owe FAMAS all the support you can give, but dear lord please take bullpups back to whatever shithole they came from.
>>77126766
you have the exact same right as everyone else to try to become a cop
>>77126831
is this a "deadly assault rifle?"
>>77124573
All memes aside, no where in the Constitution does it say "defense, hunting, sporting, etc" The right to bare arms is as much about fighting our own government than it is about defense.
The day the US citizen loses the ability to field weapons on par with the US military, is the day the Constitution is forgotten.
Jefferson said that he felt it necessary for revolution to brew every 20 years. And another quote "from time to time it is necessary to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots"
>>77124573
>allowed
i fucking hate that word.
allow my nuts how about that
>>77126399
The left seems to think that AR-15 is some kind of breakthrough technology that makes shooting incredibly easy. It's just a buzzword for them.
I honestly prefer the AK platform, so I'm in the clear.
>>77126878
how about this?
Is this excessively deadly for consumer possession?
>>77126618
tfw he never said that
>>77124573
wrong krautcuck, there's no reason america should have muslims. freedom of religion whatever i don't care we can kick out the turbanheads.
>>77126399
>tell me whats the difference between these two semi-automatic rifles firing the same bullet?
The pistol grip that allows a faster rate of fire from the hip?
>>77126627
So basically if libtards would see a VSS they think it is less deadly then an AS (theoretically as both of these are rare outside Russia)?
>>77126865
Nah I'd rather be a civil engineer
But we all have the right to defend ourselves from individuals, groups, or even governments. So I don't need to "be a cop" to do any of that or "be allowed to own a gun"
>>77126944
According to canadian law, the top rifle is safe enough for civilian possession but the bottom rifle is extremely dangerous despite these two rifles being very very similar
they even fire the same bullet at relatively the same muzzle velocity
>>77124573
The 2nd Amendment is about protecting all the other amendments. And it "shall not be infringed."
What don't you get?
>>77124573
>>77125018
>>77125076
>>77125141
>in a club or the way to work
>>77125260
>>77125976
non-Americans don't understand that 95% of the US land mass is rural households, ranches, and farms. I just came back from a week tour of Colorado and Utah. Camping in the wilderness, I absolutely need a gun. There are large predators that stalk campers scavenging for food. These are predators that idiot euros wiped off their continent centuries ago because they were too stupid to understand wildlife conservation. Ranchers need rifles to protect their livestock from coyotes, mt lions, bears, and wolves. Farmers need to ward off wild animals that threaten their families. A human is easily killed by an elk or moose. Wild dogs are everywhere in the mountains and plains. The farmer and hunter need a rifle to put food on the table. If guns are banned, wildlife populations of deer and elk will run rampant due to removal of population control. This isn't about "muh guns", it's about an American way of living. Living in the wilderness, with the wilderness, and with the comfort of protecting your family and property.
>>77125018
Where does it say that anywhere? There's a reason the founders didn't refer to things specifically, exactly because of this kind of slippery slope.
>>77127041
nope, they fire the same rate
>>77127049
Is this also "too lethal?"
Which of the rifles in the picture are "deadly assault rifles" and which ones aren't?
>>77127064
Legit question why do you hate the jews so much?
>>77124573
>there is absolutely no reason why the general population should be allowed to buy an AR-15.
That's cool I will just use my AK.
>>77124573
Where do these Germancucks keep on popping up. /pol/ is literally overflowing with your shit threads.
>>77127064
I love this meme
Americans are retarded. When was the last time "muh guns" stopped one of these countless shootings from happening?
Some others argue that it's to help stop intruders from breaking into your home and shit like that. So do you just have your gun on you 24/7, ready to fire away at anyone that comes near your door? Do you keep your gun in an easy to access place for you (and your kids) to grab? I know lots of Americans that say "oh no I keep mine locked up cause I'm a responsible owner". Well that just defeats the purpose of "gotta defend muh self" cause an intruder isn't going to wait for you to run to your room and fiddle with your lock if they try breaking in.
>>77127017
It actually says in the declaration of independence that youre already supposed to be cleaning the government out for a long train of abuses on your rights.
Like, it says its your duty as citizens, and youre in neglect of that duty.
>>77127041
I hope you're kidding, but in case you are not. Firing from the hip is neither faster nor better if your goal is to inflict as many casualties as you possibly can. People who never fired a rifle in their life will miss a static target at 25 yards while AIMING DOWN THE SIGHTS. Now imagine that kind of incompetence combined with hip firing.
To answer your question, pistol grip has exactly zero effects on your rate of fire as a shooter. Don't fall for the "black rifle" propaganda.
>>77127367
>When was the last time "muh guns" stopped one of these countless shootings from happening?
They aren't called "mass shootings" if they're stopped before becoming "mass"
>>77124573
Orlando, 49 reasons.
>>77127367
that's why you carry your gun with you, then you know where it is and you can make sure no one gets their hands on it
All DoD spam-bots, military personnel, and lib-tards aside.
You're unreasonable, we live in a Constitutional Republic where the 2nd amendment observes & protects our right to own AR-15's....
For many purposes well beyond hunting.
>>77127367
That's the mentality of people who see firearms as ornaments, or "that cool thing I'd like to own just because". Those who own firearms for a reason keep their firearms in places where they are easily reached.
The fact that your country, and mine for that matter, force us to keep our weapons locked separately from the ammo in various safes is what defeats the purpose.
>>77125169
Top bantz
Dumb FAGGOTS, if it weren't for U.S. fighting infinity wars for Israel, demanding mass immigration of questionable fucks, dead bodies in Orlando wouldn't have happened and the circle-jerk could have went on as scheduled.
>>77127367
Americans are retarded, yes, but it isn't because they think everyone should own guns - it's that they think that women, Muslims, autistic betas and niggers should be allowed to have guns.
>>77127419
I can tell you've never rapid fired from the hip. You can see where the bullets are impacting, and you can rapidly follow up with more rounds and adjust fire for accuracy. It's inefficient, but you can spray down a target as fast as you can pull the trigger.
I have a great Idea why not just keep the firearms for the citzens who were born in the merica and stayed there for 30 years without going anywhere else
>>77125372
I don't get it either. I think it's got to do with that we in Europe really, really want America to become more European for some reason.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck you ARs are fun
>H-how many have to die before-
all of them, now fuck off you whiny bitch
>>77127469
Orlando, 1 unstable man get a AR-15 without any trouble.
>>77124573
>All memes aside
>Meme
Op is a faggot.
>>77124573
>ar15
not owning russian made ak
Oops, memetic warfare has begun.
>>77127954
From Canada, no less. Wanna be friends? You can borrow my AR
>>77127873
Yes, this will surely solve the problem, poo
>>77127954
God damn leaf. I love it when you talk like that
>>77127916
Omar Mateen was not "general public". He was a security contractor for G4S, a huge multinational mercenary firm that does dirty work for over 100 governments.
So there's that, fuckwit.
>>77124573
>All memes aside, there is absolutely no reason why the general population should be allowed to buy an AR-15.
well good thing we don't live in Germany then, we all know what happens when Germany disarms it's citizens
>>77127872
Seeing impacts on a dirt mount of your local range is one thing, seeing impacts on humans, or in an open space doesn't work like that. But let's entertain the idea that you're right. Even if you decide to hip fire (and I assume you mean bump fire a semi rifle), a pistol grip doesn't make much difference anyway.
>>77127645
>Implying people in the military are anti funs
Half the people in enlisted for the chance to use military weaponry.
But regardless, I was born a free man and I'll die a free man. I don't care how many laws they pass.
>>77128004
Thanks government!
>>77127954
I like you , you can come over and finger fuck my AK.
>>77126835
If you have bullpup rifles I'm ready to buy them
>>77127177
The Secret Holocaust - The real holocaust was a Christian Holocaust by Jews of sixty-six million, mostly Christians.
http://www.rense.com/general86/realholo.htm
911 SOLVED IN 2 MINUTES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXako7GP60
Why Are Jews Always Persecuted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVXYjQp1ufg
Jews Banished From Countries 109 Times Since 250AD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HJ4Hh0hyXQ
There are as many reasons to have a long rifle as there are muslim saracen rapefugees being imported by our quisling maoist leaders.
How about the faggot who blocked the door?
That's illegal, you know. Probably cost more lives than his HIV infected blood.
>>77128165
>Mercenary firm
You're such a fucking pussy. 99.9% of their employees don't even carry weapons.
>>77128364
Sorry Frenchbro, Serbian arms industry only does it old school way.
>>77128447
A mercenary is a private citizen who does work for the government, instead of a government employee.
>>77128190
Then you've never rapidly fired a pistol either. Just stop assuming shit you know nothing about. Have you seen flesh get hit with high velocity rounds? It's fucking noticeable.
but he had 60 round automatic armor piercing copkiller clips!
>>77128551
A mercenary is a skilled professional soldier whose obligations to his home country have been fulfilled, and is now selling his skills to the highest bidder. At least that's what mercenary means in a stricter way.
Texan here. HA! Good luck taking our guns faggot. Good luck getting gun control laws passed here senpai.
>>77128551
mer·ce·nar·y
ˈmərsəˌnerē/
adjective
derogatory
1.
(of a person or their behavior) primarily concerned with making money at the expense of ethics.
noun
1.
a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.
Most of them are Americans. The ones with clearances are all American.
>>77124573
>He doesn't own an Assault Rifle
What's wrong with you, Ahmed.
>>77128551
You fucking retard. Does that mean the dude at my public uni's cafeteria Chipotle is a mercenary?
ITT:
>Eurofags not realizing that the 2nd amendment is about ensuring that the people have a way to defend themselves against a potential tyrannical government.
An AR15 is one of the best weapons FOR that.
>>77128165
lulz, they primarily do bullshit security work
>>77128684
didn't realize there were so many people who hated freedom on /pol/
stop telling the US how to run itself
you already ruined the U(cuc)K
and the rest of the west
don't cave in
stand up for your freedumb please
>>77128591
>rapidly fired a pistol
I use front sight only for rapid fire, do I pass?
>>77125566
>>no don't talk about the document that may affirm some of your rights within a social context
Fixed that for you
>>77128591
I'm not going to have a dick measuring contest with you over this. What I have or have not seen is none of your business, and I sure as fuck ain't trying to change your mind. But if you're trying to tell me that bump-firing a rifle from the hip is as effective as aiming down the sight, we have nothing to discuss.
>>77128801
he probably is.
>>77128837
found the newfag.
>>77128462
I heard you sell Rifles anyways to peoples who come to vacations in serbia.
Tell me it's not outdated.
>>77128905
Found the retard. Let's play games
>>77128957
I don't know what kind of stories you've heard, but that's a good way to get disappeared. Those who have illegal arms to sell sure as fuck won't sell it to a tourist.
So while I hate to burst your bubble, these parts are not the wild west you've been told they are.
>>77129031
And you can't buy or produce zyklon b anymore....what the fuck is your point?
>>77124573
Save that anger for the Money Printers, anon!
They are the people who will get to live the high life long after you are a poor worker without even the right to complain about bad working conditions.
>>77125748
Why add all this dumb stuff on rifle?
>>77124573
Did you know you can buy an AR-15 in your country Hans Al-Berlini?
>>77124573
>all memes aside
>posts a meme
sure thing mohammad
>>77125748
/pol/ X /k/ fags best fags
don't listen to this fucking cuck. niggers and other shitskins rape, kill and steal here without any punishment. they can do this, because they know that the civilians are unarmed. even those fucking refugees in france had guns in their REFUGEE CAMP ("JUNGLE"). EVEN FUCKING NIGGERS ARE OWNING GUNS, BUT NOT THE NATIVE POPULATION. tell me who the fucking slave is. fucking hell
There are 15 million AR15s in circulation in the United States. They are the most popular rifles in America. If "nobody" needs an AR15, then they would not be America's top selling rifle. Here is my black rifle.
>>77129157
cyanide is easy to make and plentiful in heavy industry m8
>>77125018
>muh first amendment
was never meant for the Internet and is outdated anyway.
>muh fourth amendment
was never meant for thermal imaging and xray and is outdated anyway.
>muh fifth amendment
was never meant for DNA and forensics and is outdated anyway.
fuck off
>>77129157
Are you so dense you need me to spell it out for you?
Inanimate objects don't kill people.
People motivated by ideology kill people.
>>77125018
This is very good bait man, I'm glad to see Germany stills hold international quality standards for everything they do
>>77125018
Get fucked Hans
>Shall not be infringed upon
>>77125076
The layout of your post genuinely looks like a tumblr post
like it really does
really
i'M BEING SERIOUS FINLANd
>>77129125
Gun traffiking in europe, peoples buy crazy automatic rifles and don't dissapear tho.
Don't tell me you don't know, most serbs kept the guns for themselves or sold it to gun traffic for money.
>>77124573
CANNOT BE ENFORCED
seriously you can build these with an elementary mill setup in your garage
Even if you ban them, I still have my AK
>>77124573
Bill of rights, not "needs"
>>77129571
No, most Serbes kept the rifles and are hiding them in case this place goes up in flames again. The guns you see trafficked to European Union are those from areas you've recently "liberated", such as Kosovo and Bosnia.
Largest narco cartels in Europe are from Kosovo, do you think they have any issues smuggling stockpiles of Serbian firearms along with the dope?
>>77125505
Thats the Constitution, not the declaration of independence. Fuck you and your shitty bait
>>77129434
Does everyone on either side deliberately miss the point? The point is surely the ease with which if someone wants to they can buy a machine that kills 50 people in a club. You can't do that in most other civilised countries.Only in America do you fetishize guns this much.
Do rocket propelled weapons count under the 2 ammendment? What about grenades?
>>77130392
Those are what you call destructive devices which require a very tough licence to get.
>>77126627
They want the wooden ones too they just have to get rid of the deadly assault rifles before they can go after the deadly baby killing sniper guns.
>>77130392
Destructive weapons according to the NFA and ATF
200 dollar stamp tax for each one including the weapon itself
>>77125505
You have to go back.
>>77124573
>allowed
We believe these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and — endowed by their Creator with certain Inalienable Rights
>>77124573
I will never turn in my weapons I will not be disarmed and forced into slavery by liberal tyranny.
All memes aside, there is absolutely no reason why German patriots shouldn't be arming themselves with AR-15s against Merkel
>>77126878
is this to make it comply with some bullshit pistol grip law?
>>77126270
Right to carry mother fucker.
>>77130392
>>77124573
The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
What do you think you fog breathing fuck? We're latent and let them put restrictions on our arms, and hoops.
The was no restriction for a reason. When arms are common place in society and the household they are not a public danger. We used to have classes in school on firearm knowledge and ownership. How to properly own and manage a firearm.
Only retards who have never owned or been around weapons genuinely thinks they aren't a fabulous tool and defense weapon.
Wish I had a gun. Have always liked shotguns and their various forms.
>>77131404
So go get a shotgun, not sure what the problem is?
>>77131003
You can own gun legally in Germany
>>77126136
In your cucked country maybe.
This gun is classified as a pistol in the united states, ban AR's as much as you want, I'll just throw a stock on this 500 dollar toy and a bumpfire system so I can have a fully auto AK at any time.
>>77129415
That an Aimpoint PRO? I got the same one on my Colt LE6920
>>77124573
>All memes aside, there is absolutely no reason why the general population should be allowed to buy an AR-15.
That's stupid. Right now they have these individuals doing it because it allows their narrative to prosper. It's pretty damn awkward that the media doesn't bring it up to begin with.
Lets just assume that they confiscate the firearms from law abiding citizens then those that will not be law abiding can easily muster their little gangs and start pillaging.
What are you gonna do when 4+ people roll up to your house, workplace, or any other area and your ass gets sprayed? You pathetic ass iphone and call to 911 will mean absolute shit. Especially if they jam the area.
You have no way of defending yourself and "help" from the "government" can't arrive quick enough to save your cucked life.
An AR-15 is an equalizer against a group of people aiming to do harm.
This isn't boxing where it's gonna be 1 on 1 with fair game by both sides. There's a reason why the military has squads and divisions. There's a reason why a swat team has the word "team" in it. There's a reason why even cops have "partners".
I know you're cucked beyond belief Germany and you seem to live on the premise that everyone is forever alone because you never leave the friend zone. Maybe if you weren't ugly and fucking gay you could get out of the friend zone.
>>77133020
Yes. I also have a older 6920
he wasn't just in the general population, he was a security guard, so it was probably easier for him
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>77131740
Pain in the arse.
I can't own guns because I live in rented accommodation; I need to bolt a safe to a floor or wall which my landlord won't let me do. The police won't issue an SGC or FAC until I have a secured safe.
Guns are for the rich and the state here.
>>77124573
>All memes aside, there is absolutely no reason why the general population should be allowed to buy an AR-15.
You seem to have accidently omitted your argument from that bold but totally unsupported statement.
Why do you single out the general population? If the general population have no reason to be armed then surely there's no longer any reason for the military and police to be armed/exist either?
>>77133846
Because if the poor had them they would be able to violently resist the rich and the state which would require the government to give the poor more say in state matters. You are slaves to people of power and wealth.
>>77130236
Rifles of any sort are almost never used to commit crime. Ultra intense media attention blowing an anomaly out of proportion doesn't change that.
>>77134384
So are you senpai, so are you...
>>77126463
>carrying handle
>handguard
Pick uno, my fellow leaf.
>>77128896
>social context
Shall not be infringed, faggot
K I'll just buy an AK
>>77135975
The very fact that our leaders and representatives have wiggle room for the Bill of Rights/Amendments is already proof enough that it can, will, and has been infringed
>>77124573
to protect its self against government tyranny
>>77124573
Well good thing I have an AR-10 instead
>Making law abiding people defenseless will stop terrorists and criminals!
Never understood this way of thinking
>>77124573
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>77125352
NOT
>>77125018
Cool it, Ahmed
>>77125505
That's the preamble to the Constitution you nit wit.
>>77125505
Sorry Pedro
>>77129571
Serbs aren't the ones selling guns to sandniggers. Bosnians, Kosovars and Albanians are. And they only sell to their muslim brothers.
>>77125552
Not owning a PTR, FAL, AR-10 and multiple AR-15's... and a couple vz58's, AK's.
>>77124573
>Ban AR-15
>They buy another gun instead.
>Ban all weapons
>They use blackmarket guns, knives, home-cook explosives or even vehicles to drive into gay-parade ect.
This is why you should stop trying to act smart because you are fucking not.
>>77124573
Because there isn't a reason to not let them have an AR-15 either
if the 50 faggots had an assault rifle each, they could have survived.
What's your point?
>>77124573
>all memes aside
>proceeds to say the most used gun control meme
>>77125018
We had guns with more magazine capacity than ar-15s when the Bill of Rights was written, fucking retard.
>>77124573
SHALL
>>77140442
>>77125908
It's not a riot. It's a bunch of farmers protecting their land WITH GUNS from a tyrannical Bureau of Land Management. If they didn't have guns there would have been no stand off, and Bundy would have lost his land.
I want to issue them to all my civs and I'm d.o.d. fuck off bait.
