>Mateen had legally purchased several guns in the days before the attack.
>>77108687
Freedom into overdrive
We couldn't handle that much freedom and America is too nice to handle it too
>literally walks in as a crazy fucking muzzie
>gimme guns
>lots of ammo too!
>glad I didnt say anything! I'm not a racist!
>0 waiting day check in florida
>bye
AMERICA
>>77108687
>denying a man convicted of no crime his right to keep and bear arms
>trying to make the arbitrary and incompetent terrorist watch list as a good enough reason to ban someone from buying arms
Yeah nah fuck off, I'm not trading the 2nd amendment as an excuse to import more fucking shitskins
Too bad nobody in the club had guns of their own. If you don't exercise your rights this is what happens, you lose them.
>>77109026
If just one faggot in that club had a gun and knew how to use it, this would have been stopped before it reached double digit fatalities.
If everyone had a gun and knew how to use it, the sand nigger would have been killed almost immediately.
>Not denying a man who was vetted twice and made inflammatory remarks at work and beat his ex-wife wife repeatedly
>>77108687
What difference does it make?
>>77109461
Kill yourself pedo scum.
>>77109389
except for the armed on duity police officer at teh fornt door
>>77109531
Yeah he might as well have come to work with a bullseye on his fucking back.
>>77109389
>>77109457
I get your argument, but don't they purposely ban guns from places that serve alcohol? And you'd get searched before you enter a club for that purpose
>>77108687
He was abusive and could of been charged with domestic violence but the wife didn't want to do such a thing , also his ISIS sympathy cap should of gotten him barred for at least a while.
But let's blame our system of letting people without charges buy guns and not those who had the power to stop it like his fucking wife or the government.
>>77109461
>inflammatory
Wonder what someone would have to say...
>>77109786
I blame both
but if a muzzie goes mental here he basically just swings a kitchen knife around teh subway and gets tazered
its guns easy access fault that many people are dead. no matter how committed you are it's impossible to kill 50 people with a knife and he wouldve been shot dead by the guard at the door
>>77109752
Yes they do. It's just another example of unconstitutional gun laws that get people killed.
>>77108687
The terrorists at Bataclan killed almost three times as many people and purchased their military grade weapons ILLEGALY.
I was always anti-gun, but I start to realize what braindead robots spout the same shit over and over again and the gun side actually has an argument.
>>77110011
Not really , crowded places are prime for knifes. Subway massacre that had why 30+ kills and injured with just a knife , also didn't stop the shootings in France when they got but hurt.
>>77108687
What a laughable nation America is.
A man who has been investigated by the FBI could walk into a walmart and buy a military style assault weapon and ammunition. Hopefully Hillary can fix some of the laws that allow these senseless attacks to happen. Drumpf certainly won't, in fact he is politicizing this event by blaming Islam to fan the flames of xenophobia which has kept his pathetic campaign afloat.
The blood is on the hands of homophobic, racist, sexist, right wing christian bigots who have spewed hateful rhetoric for years, real Americans know this and they will make the right choice in November.
>>77110147
Like I said, if everyone in the gay club were carrying and trained, mr sand nigger is dead as soon as he draws his weapon and fires one round.
>>77109752
nope in Arizona with a CCP you can carry in a bar as long as you aren't drinking but i'm not sure about orlando
>>77110132
>anecdotal evidence
you look at overall statistics of gun violence, fucktard, and they speak a very clear language.
lutsch mein Schwanz, du Opfer
>>77108687
:DD
>>77110236
but not the trained armed police officer at the door?
>>77109026
FBI looked into his shit, he should have been on a no-buy list.
>>77108687
No Criminal Record
No FBI worries added to background check
Government screws up
Blames 2nd Amendment
>>77110226
And Hillary uses this moment and Obama to blame trump for this happening or even ourselves. They are going to stand on their bodies to use it as momentum to ban guns while Trump uses it as a wake up call to fight home grown and international terrorism.
Thing is one fights for what is right and the other doesn't blame the victim and only guns.
>>77110236
so you're arguing that countries with much stricter gun laws should have MORE gun related fatalities because people couldn't defend themselves?
like... really?
>>77110415
Like I said, the trained police officer at the door should have just worn a target on his fucking face to work that night.
>>77110490
Look what happened in France just six months ago. And again just a few months before that.
>>77110503
so what our saying is armed police are unable to enforce law and protect the people?
then you dont need guns at all
>>77110331
You get searched when you enter a club, and it is illegal to carry in a bar.
Restricting guns stops 2 type of shooting
Acts of self defense
Also ones people would call acts of passion, where someone may grab a gun and shoot a family member in a rage
While banning of guns would stop the shooting, the victim would most likely be bludgeoned to death instead anyway
Banning guns will never stop someone who wants to commit a massacre and it will only embolden criminals who dont care about the fucking law in the first place
>>77110236
1. the risk of them shooting each other is too high
2. I doubt they could spot and kill him before he kills dozens of them
3. having a gun does not automatically mean you won't be killed
4. are you really defending that people should carry guns when they are drunk?
>>77110226
What kind of fucking retard sold a gun to a sand nigger?
>>77110415
>>77110503
what's the story on the guard? this is the first I've heard of him. I vaguely recall reading that Omar exchanged gunfire with cops (off-duty?) outside before entering the club.
so did the guard live? what did he do, just call for backup?
>>77109786
Someone in his building called the police for suspicious shit he was heard doing years ago which prompted the FBI interviews in 2013 and 2014. It was shrugged off for political correctness.
>have shit tier security at a place where a despised group of people gather and get intoxicated
>Act shocked when an enemy of your nation and that despised group attacks
>Destroy the constitution and our means of protecting yourself for "safety"
>Expect the government that failed to protect citizens in every other mass shooting to protect you
Liberalism is a mental illness.
>>77110591
>so what our saying is armed police are unable to enforce law and protect the people?
If they are unable to protect you, it shows that the citizens need guns more than ever
>>77110591
I'm saying that a lone police office or two will not be able to stop a deranged gun man every single time. But a room full of normal people who are carrying will always be able to stop a gun man.
>>77110583
then look what happened in america
noone is safe
the only difference is IF yanks decide to get a group of 4 trained guys together with vests on they will easily break frances record
ONE MAN with zero training killed half as many as a well organized group of military terrorist cell ON A WHIM
if any muzzies actually TRY a paris style attack in america there will hundreds of deaths
>>77110723
You realize those guys were quarantined, raped to death in a Baathist dungeon if they ever spoke out like that? It wasn't until our leaders started sucking Saudi cock and bombing secular eastern countries that we got the brown tide and mass extremism.
>>77110331
you cannot carry in florida at an establishment that makes more than half of its revenue on alcohol
and if you go to a restaurant that serves alcohol, it's illegal for you to carry and drink, for obvious reasons.
>>77110766
>What kind of fucking retard sold a gun to a sand nigger?
he was born in america and also had a security guard license. with no criminal background there's no way to deny him without discrimination and that's against the law.
>>77110583
anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. please cite actual studies that support a correlation of the sort
>more gun control implies more gun-related fatalities
inb4 you can't because the idea is batshit crazy
>>77110766
>bought from Wal-Mart
>>77110714
Strawman arguments. Trained individuals would not shoot each other. I'm pretty sure it would be easy to spot the shooter. And yes I am.
>>77110591
Maybe hes saying when theres only a single threat to a gunman whos easily identified, that person will die first
Armed guy on the door wont stop shit and everyone else is disarmed apart from killer
>>77110903
UNLESS THERE ARE ARMED AMERICANS WHERE THE MUZZIES TRY TO SHOOT.
>>77110868
im saying being well trained and armed didnt protect you
thats what happened. a trained and armed gun carrying officer didnt stop one man so why would some fat fucking snaggle toothed yokel?
guns created the problem and they couldnt solve it without acceptable loss of life
its not worth it
>>77108687
[citation needed]
>>77110595
Someone should have told Mr. Mateen that
>>77110957
I really don't care that much. Post a study showing the opposite.
>>77110766
>Retard
>Florida
So, you up North?
>>77110709
>>77110709
>Banning guns will never stop someone who wants to commit a massacre
works in every other country 99% of the time
>>77110766
imagine how guilty that owner feels now
bet the fbi were at his house teh next day
>>77111064
He was in uniform and probably the first person executed dumbass
>>77111133
Except when armed terrorists killed hundreds of people in France
Damn gun store owner selling it to this guy, I mean the FBI not putting him on a no buy list... But curse them if they invade our privacy, a nation who sacrifices privacy for a little security deserves neither amirite. Except the Muslims, ban Muslims, oh he was born here. Shit I'm running out of arguments
>>77110808
>what's the story on the guard?
ok, found it: According to Orlando Sentinel reporter Christal Hayes, there was a local police officer working as a security guard at Pulse. The officer and the suspect exchanged gunfire before the suspect barricaded himself inside the club.
>>77110808
there was a fully on duty armed and uniformed officer running protection at the club
sand nigger just shot at him so he took cover. sand nigger ran insid and started killing everyone and officer called for back up
police left him in the building alone for 3 hours to do as he pleased
>>77111064
>police
>well trained
The police in the US cant hit the broad side of a barn.
Most people that I know that carry daily are pretty proficient in their marksmanship as compared to police officers.
Also, it is kind of hard when the gunman runs up to you and blows you away because he sees a uniformed officer with a gun on his hip.
>>77111336
>you can count on the police to protect you
That's fucking it. I'm carrying 24/7 every single place I go. Gun laws can suck my beautiful white cock.
>>77111114
That's the point I'm trying to make. It's a retarded fucking law/procedure.
>>77111336
>police left him in the building alone for 3 hours to do as he pleased
that's a long time. I haven't seen a timeline yet; did he kill people the whole time, or what?
>>77111050
like an armed policeofficer at every club?
>>77111133
What happened in your subway in 2005 again?
>>77111257
except when armed terrorits killed dozens of people in america
also 9/11
>>77111282
>I mean the FBI not putting him on a no buy list.
You cannot put people on a no buy list without due process
>oh he was born here
He's a first generation afghani immigrant. his parents moved here.
>>77111282
>Damn gun store owner selling it to this guy,
maybe if you had better gun control laws he would have AT LEAST HAD TO WAIT A DAY
>0 waiting day in florida
you played yourself america
Reminder that they want to take away your guns so they can strip you of other rights and import more of these people.
>>77108687
>Already on multiple FBI watchlists
>Reported by several people as unstable and dangerous
>FBI be all like "nah senpai we gots to waste time busting weed dealers"
>>77108687
>People on the terror watch list can still buy guns in the US
SHALL
>>77111711
>AT LEAST HAD TO WAIT A DAY
so he could do it the next day, great plan
>>77111711
How would a waiting period have stopped this?
>>77109026
3 day cooldown period without concealed carry permit
just another compromise law abiding gun owners deal with while muzzies and criminals run rampant
>>77111763
>people on the hate crime list can still post on a mongolian weaving forum
A
>>77111711
>Waiting periods stop mass shootings
I highly doubt the mentally unstable muslim would reconsiders shooting up a club full of kuffirs just because he had to wait 48 hours to pick up his rifle
>>77110836
Yet another way PC is winning.
>>77111746
I think every terrorist in the west has been on some watchlist or known to authorities
They just never do shit about it, they like to keep watching as their priority is to collect data, not stop attacks
>>77111527
nah he was a sleazy fucking roach
he killed everyone at teh begginning by spraying into the crowd then when real armed enforcement showed up minutes later he claimed he had hostages and they let him sit there for 3 hours
when texts got out from inside about him still killing them inside the swat went in
bataclan 2.0
the entire argument is that without access to such weapons he would NEVEr have able to kill so many n such a short time. the 50 were already dead when swat showed up pretty much
swat dont stay outside in a hostage situation if they hear gunshots
they moved in after 3 hours because he started shooting again
>>77111973
FUCKING
>>77111257
So you don't think shootings of different kinds and terrorist attacks would be even more common Europe if it was easier to get weapons legally?
The fact that they DO happen in Europe really doesnt say much. I dont think anyone has ever said that banning guns would make an area 100% safe, but it would probably make it safer atleast.
>>77108687
he was on a terrorist watch list for fuck's sake
does the FBI even do anything these days?
>>77108687
yeah all those people in our modern world that were supposed to have crystal balls to forsee this just dropped the ball
>>77111598
What happening in usa in
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016 again?
>>77110591
>armed police are unable to enforce law and protect the people?
That is exactly a reason we need guns
>>77111198
>Probably
Wrong. Continue to spew on something you know nothing about.
>>77112085
Go ahead and ban them, come and take them. there is a gun for every man, woman, and child in the US. It will be like trying to confiscate every grain of sand on a beach.
i wouldnt give a shit if a muslim went around killing white people next week.
I dont want any fucking laws preventing anyone from purchasing guns. its the only fucking business that America has left that cant be exported.
shiiiit even death makes money.
>>77112097
SELECT FIRE FIREARM WITH A REMOVABLE MAGAZINE, ABLE TO FIRE AN INTERMEDIATE CARTRIDGE
>>77112123
>I dont think anyone has ever said that banning guns would make an area 100% safe, but it would probably make it safer atleast.
Literally the exact opposite is true. When you ban guns, armed assault and murder goes up since criminals are above the law.
All banning guns does is disarm the law abiding citizens
>>77108687
What's the waiting period on a butter knife over there?
>>77110432
Yeah, we really need more extrajudicial ways to abridge rights.
>>77109307
>Regulating access to guns is somewhat devpriving a man of his freedom
Oh America, never change
>>77112150
Remind me, what crime had he committed prior?
Eat shit, commie.
>>77112150
They spy your ass for marketing research to give their favorite corporations more real estate. Literally matrix scenario coming up, then you will be free from terrorists.
>>77112280
>Go ahead and ban them, come and take them. there is a gun for every man, woman, and child in the US
>there is a gun for every man, woman, and child in the US
>>77112398
12 years
>>77111133
Massacres still happen in other countries look at Paris or Brevik
>>77112123
If that's true why does Chicago have such high gun related crimes?
>>77112397
>Literally the exact opposite is true. When you ban guns, armed assault and murder goes up since criminals are above the law.
>All banning guns does is disarm the law abiding citizens
all evidense and stats over decades and decades everywhere in every country proves that this is false
Why does the media keep calling this the worst mass shooting in US history when in fact the Wounded Knee Massacre, where the 7th cavalry led the natives to a kill zone pretending to be peaceful and then unloaded mountain guns killing 280ish women and children and 20 men?
Why are you restricting access to other kinds of weapons like hand grenades and attack helicopters, but not guns?
>>77112654
>>77112496
>domestic abuse
>iciiting racial hatred
>hate speech
I wouldnt fucking sell him a gun
>>77112202
Do the math you fucking un informed boot licker.
300 million plus in the states
A FEW commit terrorist attacks.
That's less than .00001% of the population.
Just like this fucking bathroom bullshit, all to accommodate the .001%
>>77112654
Actually it proves it correct. You are much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime in the UK than in the US.
Basically the argument is that being killed by a gun is "scarier" than being killed another way.
>>77112654
>Google is hard guise
Banning handguns resulted in a 15 year spike in murder before it returned to mean, and that's only because of a huge increase in the numbers of police on the streets
>>77112788
>domestic abuse
She never reported it until just now.
>inciting racial hatred
Hahaha, how is this a crime?
>hate speech
Oh man, you need to go back to whatever shithole you emigrated from.
its florida
i can walk into a gun show and walk out with a gun
whatchu gonna do commie
>>77112299
Yep. I'll take dangerous freedoms over peaceful slavery any day.
>>77112621
>If that's true why does Chicago have such high gun related crimes?
I guess it's because people are poor as dirt and have no purpose with life so they join gangs and start shooting each other up because muh street. If Chicago was a prosperous place I highly doubt they'd be suffering from that amount of violence
>America is becoming a police state
>Terrorists still terrorise
>NSAs massive surveillance proves worthless
>"I want to keep my freedom" said the average american
Laughable
>>77112836
>victim of violent crim
stop trying to screw the stats
how many of those "victims of violent crime" are fucking dead?
a victim of violent crime means somebody pushed you in england
those stats are not fatalities
>>77112976
>muh crime is related to poverty
This has already been debunked many times.
>>77113021
Look at my chart, faggot.
>>77112719
The media is fucking clueless. Now being led by millennial trash.
>Selling guns to Muslims
This is where you fucked up, yanks. When it comes to guns, discrimination is very much in order.
>not realizing that being able to walk into a store and come out with a "sporting" rifle AR 15 has it's price
Do you even freedom?
>>77113021
>It's better to be stabbed in the gut and live for 30 years in eternal pain on a special diet than to die quickly from a gunshot wound
You're still ignoring the actual statistics that prove your retarded argument wrong as well
>>77109457
There was a police officer in that gay club. European clubs never have armed guards. It seems that gun control comes to America.
>>77112867
>death to the west, kill whitey, all who oppose the Koran must die
>this is fine and legal in america
top kek, trump is literally saying that mosques need to be monitored for this exact reason
>>77113024
Strange how poor areas seem to be more affected by crime and poor people seem to be doing the crimes.
Or did I miss that time a Rockefeller robbed a lady on the street?
>>77108687
>liberals put in regulations to keep people from owning guns
>it doesn't work
CLEARLY WE NEED MORE REGULATIONS
>>77113261
It's still not a crime, commie. Once you start making words a crime, you go down the slippery slope of Orwellian policing.
Next you'll want "no-fly listers" to not by guns. Then it'll be "radical right wingers". Then it's simply "everyone not already on a list".
We have this thing in America called Due Process. Eat a dick.
>>77113155
>Sporting
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, IT IS NEVER MENTIONED IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT ARMS ARE FOR SPORT, IT WAS FOR THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, LITERALLY MEANING THE RIFLE WAS MEANT TO KILL PEOPLE AND NEGOTIATE IF NECESSARY. THE WORD HUNTER AND GAME IS NEVER MENTIONED IN THE CONSTITUTION. HOWEVER MY RIGHT TO KILL CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND TAKE MY COUNTRY BACK IS. YOU FUCKING C.UCK
>>77109457
Everyone should know martial arts too
>>77109457
If no one had a gun there would have been no fatalities.
>>77113021
Approximately 250 people are killed with rifles each year in the US.
250 out of 300,000,000.
More people are killed by hammers and lightning strikes.
The argument against rifles is just that they are scary. The reason the government wants them gone is because it wants to disarm the population and to do that you have to start with rifles.
>mass shooting happening in toronto right now
I'm feeling pretty smug
I'm pretty pro-gun but why was a sandnigger, suspected terrorist able to legally buy guns.
This is retarded.
>>77113459
Unfortunately guns exist and can't be phased out of existence.
>>77113351
This, so hard.
Expecting rationality from an irrational person only serves to make you irrational.
t. Aristotle Einstein Hawking
>>77113459
Well we don't live in a world where guns don't exist. So fuck off to your fairyland.
>>77113477
300 now
>>77112719
That was a conflict involving actual soldiers. A mass shooting refers to one or few civilians attacking other civilians.
>>77111638
Nobody said he shouldn't have had due process, but he should have been put on a fucking no buy list.
>>77113577
>Fags
>People
>Britain
Well theirs your problem
>>77113513
>Unfortunately guns exist and can't be phased out of existence.
I guess you might as well not try then why bother doing anythign?
i'll just leave the doors open at yoru daughters school
im sure its fine
>>77113642
What the fuck do you think due process is?
>>77113642
Can't remove your rights without Due Process.
Tell me how he would have Due Process in being put on a "no-buy list"?
>>77113678
You can own a gun yourself and level the playing field, retard.
>>77109461
>those nails
What the fuck!!!! Honest to God I retched and feeling queasy right now.... absolutely fucking disgusting, holy shit what the fuckning fuck
>>77113459
Chain the exits, start a fire.
Hard to step out of your little box?
>>77113678
Its called the Bill of rights and 300,000,000 Americans and 310,000,000 guns. Come and try to take our weapons faggot. You can't take assets away from the largest fucking group of armed people on the planet.
>>77113637
No it wasn't. It was a bunch of soldiers leading a bunch of women and children into a valley and then saying wait right here and then killing them with cannon fire.
The worst mass shooting was committed by the US Government so it's absurd to let the government have guns but not the people.
>>77112931
gun show loophole does not exist
suck a dick
>>77113758
like that trained and armed police officer did?
Remember that hitter gassed the Jews and didn't use any guns for the "6 MILLION"
Remember that before guns people's still killed with Bows and Arrows and blades and oversized blunt hammers and maces
Literally someone in my town robbed a fast food place WITH A SWORD. A FUCKING SWORD!!!
Where's my Sword Control?
>>77113878
A gun isn't a force field. It's still better to have one than to not.
>>77110432
Unlike in Germany, in the US people have be convicted of a crime before their rights are denied.
>>77113912
>Remember how Hitler disarmed the population with strict gun control before gassing 6 million people?
FTFY
>>77113792
yet you are gonna let some sandnigger take yoru life
>>77113931
thats probably how Omar felt
>>77108687
>>77114000
>yoru
And no, we're not, because we own guns to fight back.
>>77108687
I don't give a fuck, brit bitch. The real problem here is that some stupid muslim barbarian was allowed into our country in the fucking first place.
>>77112976
That explains crime being high there in general but Chicago has very strict gun control policies
yet these Criminals seem to have no troubles finding guns...
>>77113878
>Police Officers
>Trained in the art of eating donuts
>>77114055
And that's fine. I'd rather my freedom cause harm than to have it stripped entirely and force a police state like yours did to you.
Tell me, what are YOUR options should someone break into your home?
>>77113995
Still proves my point but thanks
>>77114055
It's how SWAT felt too when they shot Omar in the head ending the situation.
I guess you forgot the part about how the only way a gunman like Omar gets stopped, or like the ones in France, is when other gunman come and stop them.
>>77114081
and yet in a state with practically zero gun control is where the worst shooting in american hstory took place
>>77114085
he was an american
>>77113007
>America is becoming a police state
How?
>Terrorists still terrorise
True, but they do that everywhere
>NSAs massive surveillance proves worthless
True
>"I want to keep my freedom" said the average american
God forbid we want the right to defend our property
>>77114096
>given a gun
We'd had this discussion so many times before.
The consensus is that Americans get to keep their guns, and the occasional mass shooting is the price they pay for it.
They're idiots, but they have a right to be idiots.
>>77113878
>police officers are trained to prevent crime may may
The supreme court has proven that police officers are literally only there to draw the chalk outline and "solve" the crime
>>77112408
Regulating access to guns based on what? And arbitrary list of people judged without due process put together by a federal government agency. Hmm what could go wrong?
>>77114000
It was a gun free zone, criminals don't care. Law abiding citizens do. The left doesn't seem to recognize this though.
>>77114223
>the worst shooting in the USA happened in the USA
No shit?
The worst shootings in the world dwarf Omar's and are not in the USA.
>>77114246
Nationality does not equal ethnicity you c.uck.
>>77114163
>I'd rather my freedom cause harm
Well that's lucky! pretty sure the parents of those kids will agree sure bet theyre glad they have freedoms right now
>>77114223
*in a gun-free zone
>>77113459
remembre that guns are illegal here and favelas have anti aircraft guns and negevs
>>77114223
Yea and your gun control didn't stop mudslimes from bombing your busses and your stabbings in the tubes.
When will you eurocucks learn that criminals and religious lunatics don't give a shit about laws?
>>77114223
Your point being?
Once again, guns aren't a force field.
>>77114269
There are three million federal law enforcement.
There's like three million marines.
You could say that we have so much police that it's a standing army patrolling our streets, which is the definition of a police state.
How did he go in with guns? Did he shoot the door man?
>>77114185
well armed and organized militia are allowed guns
>>77114407
>these 100 parents have more weight than the foundation of this country
Oh man, I'm sure glad I let disaster rewrite my rights. OH wait, this is America, we don't do that.
>>77110017
you don't let people drink and drive, because you admit that judgment is impaired while drunk.
Why the fuck would you be okay with people having impaired judgment and walk around strapped? People in the US apparently shoot each other all the time even without this factor. You're delusional
>>77114449
That's not what a police state is.
>>77114407
>but muh chilluns!!!!
we have heard it all before
>>77109026
I'm sure the wahhabism would have washed off after a week waiting period.
>>77114449
What are proportions
If one officer has 100 people to manage its a small town with one police officer.
1 officer per 100 people is the same as:
3 Million per 300,000,000
Seems proportional to me
>>77114546
Guns are NOT banned from places with alcohol. In many state, you can even have a drink so long as you're not above a certain limit.
>>77114551
That's how the founding fathers defined it.
>>77114303
it's not their choice to make how others will die for the freedoms of the living who are left
>>77114643
po·lice state
noun
noun: police state; plural noun: police states
a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities.
This is what a police state is. This is not what America is.
>>77108687
Proof that only white males should own guns.
>>77114303
>They're idiots, but they have a right to be idiots.
We're the ones living in service of the state because we're too pathetic to defend ourselves
>>77112123
Like it did in Brazil? Sure, they did succeed at making the population even more defenseless when they took away legal guns, and gun homicides climb every year.
It's time euro scum faces the fact that what causes violence is culture or individual personal reasons.
The tools are just the tools.
I hope muslims overrun europe with their illegal guns and kill every single man, woman and child they can find, only then will you learn your lesson.
>>77114693
It's not the choice of a minority to decide how the majority will have their freedom stripped.
>>77111536
A target?
>>77114635
The mere fact that you think of police as "people managers" suggests a police state.
From google:
>noun: police state; plural noun: police states
>a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities.
Pretty much the USA.
>>77108687
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/orlando-shooters-employer-says-he-was-subject-detailed-screening
here is the deal, cupcake.
>>77114546
>"People"
Yeah okay.
>>77114427
youve had more die in a day then we have in a decade
and it happend last year too and the year before and te year before that and the year before that
>>77114723
>This is not what America is
Wow you're delusional.
>>77114789
Explain how America is CONTROLLED by a political police force? Explain how America is totalitarian?
You're an idiot.
>>77114772
>I hope muslims overrun europe with their illegal guns and kill every single man, woman and child they can find, only then will you learn your lesson.
how will they learn a lesson if they are dead
>>77108687
BREAKING NEWS : Criminals aren't criminals until they commit crimes! More at 10.
>>77114870
Prove that America is a police state in relation to that definition.
>>77114639
I think that the Florida law says that you can't carry at an establishment that sells alcohol or sit at the bar with a CC, which is bullshit anyway liquor stores are almost always prime robbery areas.
>>77114508
and you pay with the blood of innocents
Let me put it this way, britcuck. I would rather be shot in a mass shooting than give my second amendment rights up. Once you take away gun rights government only get more oppressive. I would rather live free and in danger than a slave and be safe.
>>77110432
>Germany ignoring rights
>>77114953
Better the blood of a few innocents than the rights of all, commie.
>>77114919
There's always a few that survive.
Most likely as fuckslaves or work slaves.
>>77110333
Kreaturen wie Du sind das beste Argument gegen deine "Argumente". People like you ought to be shot.
>>77114932
What a stupid webm.
>>77114773
say that again when hillary wins
>>77111711
>AT LEAST HAD TO WAIT A DAY
kek how would that have made a difference?
>>77115072
>when
Hahaha, this attack solidified a Trump presidency and you know it.
>>77115010
This.
>>77110226
Our country doesn't have anything in place to stop the same thing from happening.
>>77114789
Your mistake is not realize that police DO manage people. Its there job, they make sure everybody follows the law and in doing so keep society from riding off the fucking rails.
Also, a state such as the one you are describing would imply a POLITICAL police force, the US has different police for each and every fucking town and county etc. Each abiding by there own code and rules and some federally mandated ones. They are in now way political. The second they try to become political its a Federal Crime. They serve and protect citizens. Doesn't matter if they are fags, muslims, Jews etc.
>>77108687
Wtf!
Why are we still allowing the purchase of weapons by brown fuckers?!
Its 2016!
Guns are not for dirty sandniggers and fence hoppers or porch monkeys.
Guns should only be obtainable by nonfelons who are actually legally conscripted into the militia, is males who registered with selective service. They are the only people covered by the second amendment.
>>77112719
Because that was 130 years ago. Stop being a revisionist faggot.
>>77115168
ebin
>>77115010
only all in america
the rest of the civilized world lives perfectly civilized while you kill each other on mass DAILY
>>77115066
Yeah I want to kick his teeth in.
>>77114953
>>77115161
Okay I guess I was wrong.
>>77110236
Nigger quit making excuses for the piss poor gun laws in America just because you have beef with Jamal and his crew. The man went on a rampage and killed dozens of people with legally purchased firearms, clearly someyhing about our gun laws arent workong faggot. I know that kills your whole "muh criminals and illegal guuunz" meme, but deflecting with stupid bullshit doesn't change the facts.
>>77115256
>rapes is Sweden
>bombs in Brussels
>stabbings and attacks in Britain
>"perfectly civilized"
This is the delusion that the likes of Merkel are joyous for you to be in. Good goy.
So your entire argument is that criminals don't care about laws so why have laws at all? Hilarious shit, then I guess we should all go around murdering and raping and stealing, I mean, criminals are going to do it anyway. We should even the playing field
>>77108687
Trump really needs to win to ensure that sandniggers can never buy a firearm ever again.
>>77115340
A law is designed to punish, not prevent.
Making laws designed to prevent only stops people who wouldn't do something from being less likely to get the means to do it.
>did you have good time on your trip to Saudi arabia
>welcome back to United States of ar15
>here's your complimentary ar15 and unlimited ammo
>fat fucking fucks /pol/ Christian terrorists will defend this
>>77115299
Someone can go stab someone with a legally purchased knife or bludgeon someone with a legally purchased hammer.
Why is the fact that it was "legally purchased" even an issue unless you're someone trying to take away the rights granted by the US Constitution?
It doesn't matter if he legally purchased the gun, there should be no attempt to infringe on the ability of US citizens to purchase firearms. The mass shooting itself surely was not legal, yet Omar still conducted it.
>>77115425
What crime did he commit that warrants the removal of his rights, leaf?
>>77115297
I appreciate your ability to listen to reason. We can all do whats right but if we all cover our ears and never talk this through we'll get nothing done. 200+ Years after this country was made and we are still trying to attack the document that built it. Its ridiculous.
>>77115340
What is morally wrong about owning a gun?
How is it equivalent to using one to commit crimes?
Do you consider self defense a crime too?
The point of saying "criminals will have them anyway" is not to argue what you think it's arguing, you dumb sack of shit, it's a counter to the "if we ban guns we solve violent crime" bullshit you liberal cocksuckers spew every day.
Kill yourself, bitch.
The only way to solve this issue is to go back in time and stop Ted Kennedy and the democrats from changing the immigration laws and letting his parents in in the first place.
>>77108687
>>77115336
So gun laws that allow psychotic muslims to legally purchase firearms and then go on rage fueled massacres makes us better "goys" then any country in the EU? Stop being a moron.
>b-b-b-b-b-but if they all had guns the shooter would have been dead in seconds!
Imagine you are dancing in a club, loud music, lights everywhere, crowded, and you've probably had a couple drinks. If someone starts firing an assault rifle into the crowd where your friends are now painting you with their blood, and a mass panic/stampede is ensuing, do you really think you would be able to spot the shooter in such an environment before he is able to pop off at least 20 rounds?
Didn't think so.
>>77115603
Or just ban guns you retarded faggot
>>77115691
Yes, it does, because those rights still heavily outweigh the "benefit" of removing them.
Once again, I'd rather the blood of innocents be spilled than the rights of all people be stripped by the government.
>>77110463
Doesn't the government being able to stop you buying guns if it puts you on a list go against the entire purpose of the 2nd ammendment? Not much point having it if the government can just put all dissenters on a list.
>>77115299
The Frito lay company kills thousands of people each year.
I propose that we ban chips and cheetos immediately and hold Frito lay responsible for damages.
>>77112272
Fuck off faggot
Either way, you can't rely on the police to protect you.
>>77109026
>Muh wait times for gun purchases
Yeah, being inconvenienced by waiting a couple of days for a rifle is totally going to change his mind. He absolutely wouldnt have done it next weekend instead. Shootings never happen in places with strict gun control like San Bernardino, California or Paris, France.
>>77115453
Because a knife or a club can't stab or bludgeon 50 people to death in no time flat with practically zero effort while also injuring over 50 others? You know, kind of like an AR 15 can.
>>77112719
because complaining about the US killing native americans is so fucking played.
>>77115717
Do you really think you would have been able to stop the shooter at all if you were completely unarmed? He is a criminal, the law does not matter to him? Gun free zone? Oh please!
>bbb-bbut muh police...
>3 hours for a swat team to get there
>meanwhile Mateen"frags for fags" was reaching a quite impressive kill count.
Next
>>77115946
http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/02/knife-massacre-in-chinese-railway-station-leaves-34-dead-4371846/
>>77115592
>What is morally wrong about owning a gun?
Morally? Who cares? Nobody is talking about morality, also relax hue.
>>77115691
Anything other than a total ban on firearms will allow psychotics to purchase firearms. Even after a total ban, they'll just buy them from the extremely well armed drug cartels that cross the southern border into the United States. It'll also embolden the drug cartels to know that the US population is disarmed just like the mexican population is.
Mexico is disarmed, but yet the criminals have guns.
