(((I am not a shill)))
>>77057330
>be faggot in gun free zone
>get shot
what a surprise
>>77057330
>still think we don't need gun reform?
No just insane asylums we can stuff Muslims and Muslim lovers in.
>>77057330
immigration reform would be the solution
>>77057330
>>77057330
He had a gun license which requires a background check to get.
So authorities, and more than likely his family/peers/etc., knew he was mentally unstable and prone to violence and they did nothing to help him or prevent him from hurting others?
>>77057330
Who will physically collect the guns?
>>77057330
>taking occupy dumbfucks out of the image so my OCR filter doesn't work
You monster
>>77057739
So had he received propper mental help this wouldn't have happened.
>>77057330
>expecting people's rights to be taken away without even formally charging them with a crime
If anything, the FBI dropped the ball hard on this guy.
>>77057776
They will try to get the cops to and about half wont.
SO what they will do then is get every lowlife nigger off the street, give them a badge, and tell them they have to power to correct them raysis honkies
>>77057330
Hi everyone this is Stefan Molyneux from Free Domain Radio, hope you're doing well.
>>77057330
So it's the gun reform we need or is the law enforcement reform we need? This guy was "investigated" TWICE for suspected links and look at what he wound up doing.
Clearly the FBI failed in their job and lives were lost because of it. But yeah, responsible gun owners will have to bear the cross for this one AS ALWAYS.
Gas all Liberals
Gas all Islamists.
Same enemy in my eyes.
>>77057776
skynet
>>77057330
>military-grade
>assault rifle
>high-capacity magazine
They probably knew he was a significant risk but gave him the documents anyway to avoid looking racist.
>>77057330
None of that makes sense. It just shows how gun control laws are already a failure. Just admit it, you want mass confiscation you coward.
>>77058216
I am legitimately triggered when I hear grabbers use these phrases.
>>77057330
Anyone cinvicted of domestic abuse cannot own a gun. It is federal law. You can't even be in the military. Look it up.
So if he was a domestc abuser he could not have gotten the gun legally.
>>77057330
>his wife only admitted he beat her after he shot 50 people
>his mental wellness was never recorded and it's only people saying he crazy now because it's easier than saying he's a muslim
>he was INVESTIGATED by the FBI but they never took action
He had no criminal record.
Even with faggy gun restrictions he would have been able to buy a gun.
>>77057330
No we need cops to do their fucking jobs.
He could have easily been flagged by NICS to prevent him from acquiring firearms.
But oh no, we should never judge people by the color of their skin when they commit crimes.
If a white guy slaps around his wife, he looses ALL his firearms. The cops take them away. Why didn't they do it whit Achmed here. Because he is a fucking filthy BROWNIE that is a protected class.
So fuck you guys.
You brought em here.
They are your responsibility.
Do your fucking job, asshole.
>>77058568
Then it's time for the second amendment to go.
>>77057330
Yes, but he was brown and muslim, therefore beyond scrutiny in O-nigger's America or pain of being labelled a racist.
>>77058339
Why? The idiots out themselves.
>Thinks ((())) works with accuracy
>Is on an Anonymous imageboard
>>77058667
You faggots will be gone well before the 2nd amendment.
>>77058667
Agreed, I really wish we had President Sanders. No more guns and no more violence!
>>77057330
He was in the NYPD and a security guard. He's have passed multiple background checks.
>>77057776
The feds via a buyback program similar to what Australia did in '96 and '03.
It's so weird that no Americans seems to remember when Australia banned all guns after the worst mass shooting in history and things turned out pretty fucking great.
>inb4 muh 2nd amendment
Nobody gives a fuck about pistols or bolt-action rifles, just the ones like the AR-15 that are used pretty much every time this happens.
>>77057330
>>77058769
For sure. And unlike Trump he'll allow Muslim immigration. Personally, I love my multicultural friends.
>>77057330
it's easy as C-O-M-M-O-N C-O-R-E
>>77058837
Same. Hey, you should check out /r/Sandersforpresident if you haven't already. It's my second favorite place on the internet after /pol/
>>77058972
Haha, I will. Yeah I agree, /pol/ is my favorite sub4chan too.
>>77058783
If background checks don't work, I guess we just have to ban all guns, huh? :^]
>>77058924
>/POL/ BTFO
>>77057635
sooo we need gun reform?
I don't understand how you can think that some gun ban would have prevented that shooting.
If the gun was legal, it was just easier to get than the illegal way.
In France there are shootings all the time with automatic rifles owned by gangs. Or the recent muslim mass shootings.
What would have stopped the shooter?
when about 10% of those faggots had a gun or a ban on his gun? I mean it is just beyond me. Murder taking hostages is also illegal, yet he did it anyway.
Only in a magic world words and spells written on paper change reality.
>>77058972
>>77059130
It's always nice to see my fellow Bernie Bros here.
>>77058792
No gun owner I know would voluntarily give up their firearms. Let's say, hypothetically, that 80% go that route. Who will collect those? Won't that start another Civil War?
>>77058792
>pretty much everytime
There are more murders with hammers than Ar-15s, you fucking aussie faggot.
don't worry lads, I saved the unedited one that was posted earlier.
>>77058924
>4% of the population in the chart did 32.6% of murders.
Really smart infographic you got there.
>>77058924
>niggers
>human
>>77058924
retarded hahaha I love you aussies
hey dumbfuck...
a gun didn't kill the queers...
a RADICAL ISLAMIST killed the queers...
obama and hillary won't call out the EVIL(ISLAM)
Trump 2016(he won't be afraid to call evil...EVIL)
How did he pass the federal background check if all those things are true?
The federal government already has the power to reject any application once they review it for whatever reasoning they decide.
They also have the authority to null a previoualy approved one for, again, any reason t hey deem appropriate.
Who runs the background checks for the feds? Theyre clearly not soing their jobs.
>>77059556
>1 shooting versus 90 shootings
>in less than 6 months
>>77057330
>military grade assault rifle with high capacity magazine
why cant you burgers just call it automatic rifle, does it sound more merican and free this way or is it something else?
>>77058792
Burgers, it's time for a serious thread, no shitposting.
Our ex prime minister john howard got on your tv last night to LIE to your nation that gun control worked down under.
I am here to give you the real facts and dispute every single one of his lies with cited sources. Your job is then to save all these facts and BTFO anyone who tries to lie that aussie gun control worked. You will prevent the tragedy that happened to us happening in your nation and perhaps even redpill a few of my own countrymen as to the lies we've been fed.
>John howard claimed we have not had a mass shooting since port arthur
We have had FOUR since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege
The hunt family murders
http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/hunt-family-murders-witness-describes-final-night-at-family-home-20151006-gk2vo5.html
The recent sydney seige
http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-gunman-man-monis-was-a-radicialised-terrorist-us-expert-says-20150824-gj6wlm.html
Now time for some bonus points. Last week in victoria we've had 15 shootings, source below. We also had ANOTHER seige in sydney in the last week.
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/03/12/03/33/vic-records-15-shootings-in-eight-days
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/sydney-ingleburn-gunman-dead-in-siege-after-fatal-shooting/7226058
This is the first lie they push about our country. That the violence stopped. It did not stop, it has been brutally supressed due to gag and control orders on our media.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/australian-court-gagging-order-abuse-legal-process (1/3)
>>77059807
64 of those shootings were conducted by Black gangs over Memorial Day Weekend.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/04/us/chicago-shootings.html?_r=0
>>77058792
I find it amusing that people who want to ban guns thinking it will reduce gun crime.
Especially when they point to Australia as being a "gun control success story".
Australia is having an increase in crime, and has had one since the gun ban in 1997. Gun crime HAS gone down, yet what anti-gunners will not tell you is that it was dropping BEFORE the ban.
Link: http://www.ssaa.org.au/ilasep98.html
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/44e7066a7d173...
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/27/how-has-heightened-gun-control-worked-in
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-18/opinion/chi-the-failure-of-gun-control-in-australia-20130118_1_gun-control-mandatory-gun-gun-deaths
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
Did you know: one in ten of all guns seized by police from criminals in Australia is a DIY submachine gun?
Here are some articles showing the major failures of Australia's "tough" gun laws you won't see on TV-
I found these in less than 10 minutes:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916?nk=c1720804438b0b9f14802266b41dd806
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/bill-holmes-homemade-smg-others-spotted-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/16/mp40-found-in-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/21/potd-fp-45-liberator-found-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/08/australian-police-arrest-homemade-pen-gun-supplier/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/02/51213/
(2/3)
>>77057330
2nd ammement was made for a homogenous country, for a community where people trusted each other. Of course it's dangerous in a country which has now so much racial division.
>>77059807
>hey dumbfuck...a gun didn't kill the queers...a RADICAL ISLAMIST killed the queers...obama and hillary won't call out the EVIL(ISLAM)Trump 2016(he won't be afraid to call evil...EVIL)
>>77059910
>>77058792
THE CRIME STATISTICS RELATING TO HOME INVASIONS, RAPES, ASSAULTS POST BAN
As you can see here:
>Assault rose
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime/assault.html
>Sexual assault rose for 5-6 years following, before dropping off. Kidnapping also rose.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html
>>77057330
>omg it's the current year don't dare blame muslims. crazy people are just going to do stupid shit you racist. how dare you use this to further an agenda
>guns are to blame. if he didn't have a gun he wouldn't have killed anyone. it's time we pass some legislation in light of this tragedy. #justfuckmy2ndamendmentup
leftist autism is truly something to behold.
>>77059807
All of those shootings by the way were committed by illicit firearms so using "legal gun owners" isn't an argument. This specific individual was targeted by the FBI who quite clearly failed in their duties when monitoring his activity in regards to connections with radical Islamism which we all know is incredibly dangerous given its track record in the past year alone never mind the past 10.
And you are also assuming the remaining 25 shootings were committed by white, legal, and registered gun owners which we all know is complete bullshit.
Nice try.
>>77058792
>b8 this hard
>pol falls for it
Good job m8
>>77059228
But Anon! Criminals obey the law all the time! Are you trying to tell me that people will disregard the law if they're inclined, and that people can ignore a sign that says "no guns allowed"? B-b-but laws are magic, right?! People HAVE to obey them!
>>77057330
Occupydemocrats is exactly right. The government clearly failed to prevent Mateen from getting a gun, and in fact cleared him through several background checks both to become licensed as an armed security officer and to purchase firearms, and is wholly incapable of protecting you from such madmen. You need to take up arms to defend yourselves.
>>77057330
He didn't easily buy it, he had to get a special license as a security guard. The same thing private security get.
>>77060049
beause guns kill people right?
a radical islamist has NEVER killed any1...right?
why have you not called for the end of human bombs?
are human islamic bombs less dangerous in your pathetically stupid mind?
>>77060393
Exactly. The government failed 100%. He was "under surveillance" but clearly the government cleared his background check meaning that the gun vendor had no need to worry about his connections with violence.
In addition can you imagine the shitstorm these same morons would have caused if someone had denied selling a firearm to him on the basis of him possibly being connected to radical Islam?
I'd seriously hate to be a gun dealer today with all these loonies and Leftys fucking everything up all the time. The government fails and we all get shit for it despite the fact that the vast majority of gun owners in America are responsible and do not commit crime.
WHO COMMITS THE CRIME is the better question but the Left will just shut off and go, "LALALALALA" when you bring it up.
I have fucking had it with them.
>>77057330
It really doesn't matter anymore. Anyone can get a fucking gun. I know a felon with 3 (inb4 everyone asking "why are you friends with a felon with 3 guns? That's degenerate.") I just know the guy. Anyway, everyone needs a gun. I'm seriously in fear of being shot at randomly one day by the way society is going today. I live in a safe neighborhood, so it's not likely, but you never know with all the crazies nowadays.
>>77057330
>lets all blame the gun and not the guy pulling the trigger
Liberal (sand)nigger lovers, everyone.
>>77059194
Tell that to the FBI, homo.
>>77058667
>off by one
Oh well, freedom to own firearms remain:(
>>77059910
Because it isn't an automatic rifle. Any "Assault" rifle that a normal citizen can buy is not fully automatic, just semi automatic.
Granted with some mods it can become a fully auto, but you're breaking several laws and are most likely going to commit a crime.
>>77058792
Because nobody every uses an AK for this kind of thing anywhere amirite?
>>77059910
because an ar-15 isn't automatic, you have to pull the trigger for each bullet
>>77060527
that's is not an answer to my comment
>>77060885
>are most likely going to commit a crime.
you're probably goign to jail if you get caught and/or will never legally own a gun again.
>>77059744
i hope all the queers that knew some1 that died here honor their death by voting for TRUMP(calls radical islam EVIL)...and not shillary(has radical islamic donors)
>>77058792
>It's so weird that no Americans seems to remember when Australia banned all guns after the worst mass shooting in history and things turned out pretty fucking great.
T. John Howard
nothing fucking happened. we sacrificed our freedom for nothing
>>77057330
ban sandniggers
>>77061611
can't tell if that would be better if it said "mere bantu" or not
>>77059340
It's funny how you're talking to yourself
Check your ID.
>>77060885
I'm a machinist and a veteran gun smith, and I'm here to tell you that you can't turn a semi-auto receiver into a full-auto receiver 'with some mods'.
Even if you could machine the parts and install them you would fail to tune them properly. Your rifle would be bubba'd beyond repair. If you got automatic functionality out of it, it will cease to perform correctly after 400 rounds. Then you would have to machine the whole thing all over again. You have no idea how much of my business is repairing firearms destroyed by people trying to do this shit.
Honestly that's why the technical drawings for firearms are freely available; nobody short of a mechanical engineering major is going to fabricate a full auto rifle at home. Even then the barrel won't be heat rated yadda yadda. Nobody succeeds in this venture.
In the end you get a dangerous rifle that can bump fire on you and your family, while ironically failing to fire when you really need it. Have fun with the 'DIY full-auto seer' myth.
>>77060885
>Any "Assault" rifle that a normal citizen can buy is not fully automatic
Wait, i thought you could buy fully automatic stuff?
>>77058216
At least they didn't say clip
>>77062195
I don't think that's been legal in thirty years. I mean, you could still get one manufactured before the ban, but you'll spend years and tens of thousands of dollars in permits/fees and the actual firearm.
>>77057330
IT'S NOT EVEN AN ASSAULT RIFLE THOUGH. AR MEANS ARMALITE RIFLE.
>>77057330
he wouldn't have bought it legally if he was any of that
>>77060049
you are stupid...
there is no "racial" division in America
America is made up of many races(of course i don't expect a racist eu fag to understand that)
all races in America have guns
all races stand on equal ground
moron
>>77058924
80,000,000:90 < 3,300,000:1
163:90 < 50:1
>>77062195
You have to buy a tax stamp first, and undergo a wait period and extra paperwork. Those guns start around $16,000
So no, people are not just buying full autos. That's bullshit presented by the SJW mainstream media. The actual AR15 is a carbine rifle, which is a very old thing. SJW's just don't like BLACK carbines, because they look full autos used by the military. I guess hating guns is just an extension of SJW racism, since minorities are the people having the hardest time getting FID cards, Carry Permits, and spots on traingin courses. If your city is mostly urban and black then banning guns (like NY or CA) is just a way to keep guns away from colored people. Nothing more.
>>77057330
>passed several different levels of background Checks and security screenings
>would have been able to get a gun even in a hypothetical strict gun control America
>Isis in euros gets their hands on real AKs frequently
>Aussie gangsters make full auto smgs you of pipes
>He could have easily molotoved the exits
>I-it wuz teh gun!
