What the fuck were they thinking?
Playing "hard to get" with Fritz's dick.
>>76919524
Good question m8.
No fucking clue.
>>76919524
Thinking they were going to fight another WW1 style trench warfare, blitzkrieg proved that wrong.
>>76919524
Didn't you know that Luxenbourg has a superior defense system?
:^*)
The French aren't known for their thinkers so they just drew up some Cartesian boundaries.
>>76919524
1) they didn't expect an attack from Belgium because this takes more effort / time / manpower, which makes it easier to defend against such an attack
2) a large section of the French-Belgian border was thought to be impenetrable by tanks
3)Belgium opposed building strong fortifications at their southern border
>>76920081
So basically the French relied on memes?
>>76920286
Yeah well, France isn't particularly known for its military masterminds
the belgiums held off the germans in the first world war, france thought they could do it again
>>76919524
Putting some faith in the glogwogs. Way too much faith.
Stretching the maginot line across the Belgium borders was thought to be too expensive as well as damaging to foreign relations.
>>76920559
Clog.
>>76920400
Or drinkable water.
was it really over after germans took Paris?
>>76920400
Napoleon? Charlemagne? Vercingetorix?
They thought Belgium wouldn't get invaded, and that they would put some resistance if this was the case
bad choice since the belgians got steamrolled in a couple of hours
>>76920081
Lel the Krauts literally just repeated what they did in WW1 but managed to take Paris this time. They say "generals are always preparing for the last war", but the French couldn't do even that. (not that we did somehow splendidly in WW2, but the French were a global superpower at the time ffs)
>>76920703
None of them was French
>>76920703
>Vercingetorix
>French
WW1
>Germany beats Russia, loses to UK, France, and US
WW2
>Germany beats France, chases UK back to their island, loses to Russia and US
they could never catch a break
The French weren't accustomed to tank warfare aside from limited use in ww1 with primitive tanks.They had thought the forests and extended territory on the northern edge would deter tank movement in that area.
>>76920636
To be fair most of you foreign fuckers were subhuman savages living on dirty water and wallowing in your own shit while the bastion of human greatness was inventing clean water sources and flush toilets.
>>76920286
Exactly
>Muh Ardennes
>Tanks are unable to go through forrest
>Lets divise ous tanks between armies and don't go full armored
The Maginot Line cost so much, for merely nothing. Fucking hate French Ecole de Guerre
>>76920703
Napoleon was Italian. Shocking actually.
>>76919524
They were thinking lets do the German border first but we can't finish it because we're in economic stress.
>best french military commander was a fucking woman
Wew lads thats some 10/10 history there
>>76919524
They were thinking "Fuck the Ardennes lol, ain't no Germans coming through there."
>>76920945
Technically he was Corsican
There was no such thing as a united Italy at the time, and even to this day Italians like to define themselves regionally just as they have for the last thousand or so years.
>>76920882
You also got beat by a bunch of farmers with outdated weapons and a few French.
>>76920846
Saying they can't catch a break is like saying they dindu nuffin when they held up a store twice in 1 year and got shot both times by heroic bystanders.
>>76921103
If it didn't happen on the British Isles then it was merely a setback.
>>76921121
>Germany started WWI
British education.
>>76920882
>clean water lines
>toilets with sewage lines
that was the romans, not the french you dirty fucking anglo
>>76919524
there were also thinking that no one would send troops through the Ardennes
>>76920945
>Napoleon was Italian
Corsican. Which had transferred to French sovereignty 3 years (I think) before his birth. And Corsica is still part of France. Not even to mention that Corsicans consider themselves neither French nor Italian, but Corsicans.
>>76920400
Pick up a book about our history.
>>76919813
>The French aren't known for their thinkers.
What is the Age of Enlightenment?
>>76921191
>get called on by old treaty
>invade neutral country to get to the country you want
>bring even more world powers into the fight
>dey dindu nuffin how else dey suppozed to pay for dem prograhms for dem soldeers
>>76920081
Lol we almost lost ww2 because the french let the belgians boss them around
Fucking belgium doesnt have any decent right to even exist
>>76920400
Philip II Augustus?
Louis IX of France?
Bertrand du Guesclin?
Jean Bureau?
Chevalier de Bayard?
Henry III of France during his youth?
Turenne?
The Great Condé?
François de Créquy?
Jean Armand de Maillé-Brézé?
Anne Hilarion de Tourville?
Anne Jules de Noailles?
Claude Louis Hector de Villars?
Louis Joseph, Duke of Vendôme?
Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville?
Louis-Joseph de Montcalm-Gozon? He was badass until his death at the end of the French and Indians war.
Comte de Grasse, halted the British naval reinforcements at Chesapeake.
Comte de Rochambeau, the orchestrator of the Yorktown campaign
Latouche Tréville, won several times against Nelson
Lafayette?
André Masséna?
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas?
Jean-Baptiste Jules Bernadotte?
Moreau?
Murat?
>>76920666
The principal difference in both wars was the determination and will of leadership, in first world war military authority held superior position of power over political opposite and even then both were willing to fight, second relocating south when germans were upon the paris and continued struggle.
In second world war, military was much less of what it used to be, germans forced through belgium and bypassed extremely sophisticated lines of defence on maginot, there was next to no time to organize defences of paris and way beyond that with introduction of blitzkrieg, political leadership surrendered, while even if military wanted to continue, say, charles de gaulle, political part of leadership denied entire affair.
France lacked someone like petain as the head in WWII.
So it technically continued, on massively smaller scale.
>>76920787
He said "France isn't known for its military masterminds." Napoleon was a military mastermind for France, not Italy. And Charlemagne was the king of the fucking Franks, retard.
>>76920843
Yeah, he was a Gerard Depardeux-lookin-motherfucker
>>76920945
Worked for france.
>>76921217
The British invented flush toilets and clean water in the post-Roman era.
I was saying that the French are no worse than the rest of you savages outside of Britain.
>>76921411
Who gives a shit about Luxembourg? They don't even have a right to exist. Russia escalated Germany decision making by mobilizing their troops.
>>76921747
>it's fine to invade innocent countries
Literally dindu nuffins.
>>76919524
Fixing this mistake with my communist france in Hearts of Iron 4.
Same at the italian front, famam.
>>76922014
Go cry on your tumblr about it.
>>76922251
No need to cry because we won.
>>76922014
>Innocent countries.
Why are you humanizing nations?
>>76922207
>tfw Panzer divisions got into position in the Ardennes
>forgot to delete previous front and they moved back down along the Maginot Line when I invaded France
>>76922306
Wrong kid died.
>>76920514
>the Belgiums held off the germans in the first world war
For a few weeks. The Germans got fed up and brought in their heavy artillery.
It wouldn't have made much difference what the French military did.
The Maginot line wasn't actually as strong as many people believe, certainly not in the era of ww2 combined arms warfare.
The Germans actually attacked the Maginot defenses towards end of the campaign and had little difficulty breaking through it. With just infantry and very few tanks.
What many people don't know is the fact that is was the superiority of the German infantry training and doctrine, that was so much more decisive. Yes the German panzer divisions helped, they sped up the defeat, but the German infantry were, one on one, far more than a match for the French.
We have run this through simulations many times and every time the Germans win. Regardless of what the French do. The French can avoid the mistake of advancing into Belgium with the Brits. They can reinforce the weak spots in their defenses. It makes no difference other than delaying the end. Even if there is no Dunkirk.
We have even run through the simulations where the Germans have no tanks. Yup, no tanks at all. They still win.Sure, it takes them longer, right up until September-October, but they still knock France out.
>>76905491
This is spooky because some guy was posting these coordinates in random threads earlier and it brings you to this exact location.
>>76923096
1 post by OP in this thread!!
>>76919524
They wont possssibly cross another country's borders to get to ussss that against the lawww
>>76923347
They put their best formations up by the Belgium border. Ignorant shithead.
>>76921699
He still wasn't french.
>>76921638
Who?
>all these idiots saying the French didn't expect an attack through Belgium
I can't believe so many people continue to regurgitate this meme history. The whole point of the Maginot line was to channel any future German invasion through Belgium so the French could fight them there instead of in France itself.
>>76919524
Ask Wilson, he's the one who backed the good old British balance of power policy so Germany would remain strong and France vulnerable after WW1.
Somehow despite having it's back broken France was still a threat to its interests more than Germany, so both Britain and the US did all they could to stop France from annexing the Rhineland.
The Maginot line wasn't a bad idea, except it was a huge drain on France's economy and France couldn't very well build a wall between her and her ally Belgium.
Anyway when Germany rearmed the Rhineland, France wanted to attack but doing so would have meant full mobilisation which would have drown the economy even further. Actually when asked about it the British government pushed against it, saying Germans had a right to do so.
Before Churchill the British governments had a hard on for nazism, so France was pretty much left alone dealing with this bullshit.
>>76920843
He's a celt leader, he fight againt caesar
>>76920703
>>76921638
>thinks he made a point because he linked military commanders from centuries ago
Yeah, no. At least try a posting somebody from last century
>>76921395
>What is the Age of Enlightenment?
A new kind of Cuckstian slavery.
>>76929214
Annexing the Rhineland was a dumb idea Pierre. You guys had a decent defense plan against a resurgent Germany with your eastern allies until Munich.
The lesson is you should have fought regardless of the ''huge'' strain. The damage would have been less than what you actually got and I'm sure the brits and kike bankers in the US would have given you some loans.
>>76919524
They imagined that they could hold us on their right flank (Maginot line) while press us dynamically on the left (weak line). There was also a lot of politics involved as French invasion plans of Germany involved moving through Belgium and joining up with the Belgium army.
>>76920863
>what's the Renault FT
Just stop America...
>>76920400
Which is why France has the most impressive military records of all European nations.
>>76920784
Yeah well France took 6 million casualties during the first war for a population of 20 million males.
Somehow twenty years later people weren't looking forward another German invasion.
Anyway France is the only reason you fucks get to wear your own flag. So you're welcome.
>>76921049
She was as much a military commander as James Montgomery was.
>>76921191
They sure as hell invaded two neutral countries, raped Belgium and then invaded France. First to use poisonus gas, flamethrowers, sinked countless civilian ships, bombed Paris and London ect...
Germany can suck a dick.
>>76922919
we?
>>76930976
>Which is why France has the most impressive military records of all European nations.
See. >>76929521
At least refer to a person from last century. Who the fuck cares if your medieval commanders were somewhat decent. You suck at modern warfare
>>76920787
>>76920843
>>76920945
>>76925501
>>76925669
>>76929521
>>76931277
>Yeah, no. At least try a posting somebody from last century
Like single handely stopping the German advance in France?
>>76931277
Foch was commander in chief of the allies during WWI. Also David Galula.
>Galula has been considered an important theorist by contemporary defence experts.[12][13] Notably, the United States military used his experiences as examples in the context of the Iraq War[14][15][16][17] and he is often quoted in the US Army's Counterinsurgency Manual.[18] Galula's Counterinsurgency Warfare: Theory and Practice is highly suggested reading for students of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College.[19]
>>76931879
>Foch
>>76925501
>spoke French
>educated in France
>officer in the French army
>emperor of France
>not French
So to you anyone leaving outside Paris at the time wasn't French?
I don't even like Napoleon, he fucked us deep in the ass by failing to secure our holdings along the Rhine and had a million French men killed because of his huge ego. Casualties per capita for France were actually higher at the end of the Napoleonic Wars than WW1. We even lost our demographic edge over Britain and German states after those wars.
He also sold the better part of your country for peanutts...
>>76932400
>living not leaving, fuck english sly
They sure as hell weren't thinking about how cucked their countries would become in less than 100 years.
Neither were the Germans. Or the Brits.
Think of all those decent men who died. For nothing other than to give their homelands over to third world immigrants,
>>76921103
>US
>ripping UK for being beat by farmers and outdated weapons
>forgetting vietnam
>>76932174
>>76931277
What has Britain even done in recent history which didn't imply other nation fighting for her? I mean you fled like coward in 1940 while France was taking casualties on the level of WW1. You then sank a French fleet which was cold blooded murder as well as a dirty backstab btw. You barely old ur ground in the Battle of Britain against an enemy whose planes could barely carry the fuel to cross the Channel and back. And then it's pretty much Russia, and then American doing all the heavy lifting.
>>76922919
The French and British got outflanked, that's really all there is to it.
>>76922919
They sure as hell don't win if the BEF and ArFr don't spearhead into Belgium and have their rear completely destroyed.
Had the British and French just held the damn line and left a few divisions near Sedan the Germans would have been completely, utterly fucked.
>>76922919
The Germans infantry was also better equiped and trained during the first world war. It didn't make a difference then... You're just talking out of your ass.
>>76931270
Military analysis. For training and textbooks. We run large scale computer simulations with human input from staff officers.
>>76932400
> Casualties per capita for France were actually higher at the end of the Napoleonic Wars than WW1
You sure about that ? Verdun was a bloody nightmare.
>>76929214
>left alone dealing with this bullshit.
well the french were the ones that pushed all the bullshit into the versailes treaty that made germany go full nazi.
>>76933212
Did you run a simulation where the French blow all of the Meuse crossings and actually have a large defense force in Sedan, the chokepoint for the blitzkrieg?
>>76932174
In my city we had a place that was called "Fochplein" (Foch Square). The name was changed recently because of... well not like actual war crimes or anything but apparently he sent massive waves of soldiers to their deaths on the battlefield, which as far as I'm aware was standard practice during WW1 but people look down on that now or something?
Anyway I used to mess with the international university students here that Fochplein was pronounced like fuck but with an "o" (it's not).
>>76933401
Bullshit.
You didn't pay shit and broke the rules as soon as you signed the damn paper.
You guys would have gone full nazi even if we didn't ask anything.
>>76920703
>French intellectuals
>>76933401
>m-muh Versailles
>m-muh has to pay everything
Fuck you, that's exactly what you did to us in 1871, except we DID pay without bitching about it for all eternity, eventhough it was even more lenient toward you because it was tied to your capacity to pay, whereas you just pillaged us.
Fuck you and your revisionism.
>>76933506
>The name was changed recently because of... well not like actual war crimes or anything but apparently he sent massive waves of soldiers to their deaths on the battlefield
Historical self-flagellating at its finest. Blaming the guy who kept it all together because he had the audacity to not give up and had to make tough calls, with the power of hindsight.
>>76932954
That's not the point..The Germans could have launched a full frontal assault on a wide front, with only infantry, and would still have won. The attack through the Ardennes simply made the fall of France far faster and far more catastrophic.
Even economic analysis, where instead of the French dedicating the resources allocated to building the Maginot line they put the resources into building up modernized mobile forces, tells us the French were still going to lose.
The fact remains, France was simply too weak to resist the Germans in 1940. No amount of "fixing the French military mistakes of 1940" would have altered the outcome, other than the length of the campaign.
>>76933386
Yeah, France had a population of ~30 million in 1800 and the death toll for Napoleon's campaigns are around a million for France alone. Most died starving and freezing during the retreat from Russia.
>>76919524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0I7M_I1Fp0
>>76919665
It was a trap.
>>76934202
What a load of garbage.
Running toward machine gun and artillery fire sure as hell didn't work during the first world war. It sure as hell wouldn't work against tanks and planes either.
You're one dumb troll.
>>76933185
No, you are the one talking out of your ass.
French infantry doctrine simply stagnated after WW1. In the years after WW1 the Germans developed infantry tactics and junior officer training that put them literally decades ahead of the Allies. We are talking tactics here. The ability to execute command and control with a high degree of efficiency on a company-battalion basis.The Germans could approach a target, plan and execute an attack, regroup, and then attack again far faster than the French formations.They were able to respond to a changing battlefield environment much faster and with far more efficiency. That is what gave the basic German infantry units a huge edge over their French infantry counterparts.
>>76933212
>Military analysis. For training and textbooks. We run large scale computer simulations with human input from staff officers.
Where can you learn this stuff? It sounds so interesting.
>>76933430
Yeah. The Sedan pocket. They last four weeks.Sometimes as long as six.
>>76934202
No.Not a troll. Just very well informed, well educated in military history, and I work in the field of military analysis.
Your comments suggest you subscribe to a school book level of understanding. In which case there seems little point in trying to help you understand the reality of the 1940 campaign. .
IT'S ALL EXPLAINED HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWwLcykedcs
>>76919569
fpbp underated fambalam
>>76935194
The army. But you need to be up at staff officer level before you get into this stuff.
>>76919813
goddamn dude i laughed
fuck off and go get your physics bachelor's
>>76936077
>Army
Guess I'll never know then. Thanks anyway though.
>>76920703
>>76921699
None are French, the Carolingian dynasty came from Belgium. Franks = French, plenty of Frankish people consist non-French nations.
>>76936226
Franks =/ French even
>>76936226
>Clovis' power base was around Tournai (Doornik)
>Charlemagne born in Liège (Luik)
>Emperor Charles V born in Gent
Most irrelevant country, home of the most relevant rulers.
>>76936649
>Charlemagne born in Liège (Luik)
WE
>>76920945
he was french. corsica wa given to the kingdom, making it a french province. and the corsicans became french subjects of the king. period.
>>76919524
>What the fuck were they thinking?
They were not able to afford any more.
And let's face it, by 1942 the tech is there to simply break through no matter where the Maginot line was, around Kursk the Soviets build defenses putting the Maginot to shame and the Germans broke thorugh.
>>76929214
>moans about balance of power policy
Its the only reason France still exists
>>76919524
Just the generals preparing to fight the same time of war they fought last time.
>>76938075
Yeah, right... Last time u tried to take on France alone it didn't go well for you roastbeef.
>>76935867
Thanks, watched it while eating and it's actually pretty interesting if you can get past the introducer making half a dozen surrender jokes...
>>76935861
Yes, you are. No fuck off retard.
>>76919708
it is called the moselle river
>>76919524
We thought the dutchs and belgians were not weak surrendering subhumans, but we were wrong and our defence crumbled.
>>76921747
>Luxembourg has no right to exist
>said by a fucking leaf
Atleast we aren't some cucked colony country without proper culture. Size doesn't mean everything and now go suck some chinese cock so you can afford a flat.
>>76919524
>Lille
*Rijsel
Here is a typical anglo. Fleeing like usual and being a backstabbing fucker not allowing us to put an end to the german fuckery.
Thanks englandistan.
>>76919524
>What the fuck were they thinking?
France expected that the German attack would hit them first in the vain the Schlieffen-Plan had done so before as they were the strongest military force on the continent. However they began building those defenses when they had Poland and Czechoslovakia on their side which they suspected were sufficient replacements for Russia that had aided them in the Great War. But Czechoslovakia was annexed without interference by Hitler and then he attacked Poland and not France. So instead of having their expected scenario of Poland attacking Germany while Germany was busy charging France the Germans came down on the Polish first. The French did not attack Germany since they have consequently followed the idea of building a defense line against Germany they now did not want to abandon.
What was the final nail in the coffin? The German military had to be rebuild from the ground and to that effect they had the fortune of building a tank force that could be combined with an efficient air force or else they would have already had a prolonged struggle against Poland. This new combination proved quite effective and the resulting mobility has triumphed the French effort at fortification. That's why nobody is building defense towers today like they were playing Dune 2.
Nevile Chamberlain had actually prophesied this outcome by warning the British that the Germans would have long taken over France before the British soldiers would be there to fend them off. In the end the French lost as soon as they let Hitler reclaim the German Rhineland militarily again.
>>76944040
you frogs banned our language in belgium, of course the flemish (60% of pop) couldnt give a fuck about you getting rekt by the germans
>>76921671
There seems to be some doubt nowadays about the sincerity among French generality to wage a war against Germany again. Some seem to have been opposed from the getgo and in the end the decision to surrender made sense. Imagine the Allies would not have chosen to stage their invasion through France however realistic this scenario might be. France would have been spared the whole of the rearguard battles and bombardments of their own country. Of course there is still the occupation but the French had their own representation in form of a civil government which is far better than what the Eastern Europeans got.
So all the destruction in France is the Anglo's fault. :^)
>>76919524
The border wasn't easily accessible by tanks since it had lots of forests and hills
There was a situation where an entire german panzer brigade came against 7 french soldier inside a bunker with an anti-tank gun.
Fighting ensued for over 4 hours until stukas came and destroyed the frogs
>>76932400
He was actually bullied in his military school because he couldn't speak french
>>76929214
Woodrow Wilson was a major NWO fuckup but you have to be fair on the American decision to withdraw their troops from the Rhineland. That only happened because they thought the French were too pushy and sent in French troops into the Ruhr. In the end it only hurt your case and everybody started to think all of France's demands and security concerns were exaggerated.
>>76947018
The destruction of France was literally englo's doing. The germans weren't here anymore yet all of my city's center was completly wiped out from the face of the earth. They also made irreparable damage to our port (the best and strongest of france), etc.
The leadership most probably knew this full well, that the german divisions had left weeks ago to go help in the east. Yet they attacked. Really makes you think.
>>76947816
So what? He certainly spoke more French than my grand grand parents who fought in the Great War.
>>76930976
>Which is why France has the most impressive military records of all European nations.
>Impressive
You guys have been in so much conflict, and have gained little to nothing out of all of it.
So much loss of life, and you guys aren't sitting anywhere near where you should be considering the effort you guys put in
Good job you arrogant Frogs. Military masterminds you guys are.
>>76921121
>Germany started ww1
>Germany started ww2
Please learn some history.
>>76948506
Gained you a country at least and you weren't even decent enough to pay your loans.
>>76948610
"hurr muh dindu nuffin"
Kill yourself you retard, go back to stormfront
Germany annexed 2 countries, broke 2 treaties, invaded poland and invaded 2 neutral countries.
Plus thousands of other war crimes
Saying that they didn't start ww1 is fucking retarded, when even the Tsar halted general mobilization in hope that the germans stop their aggression, but no, they needed an excuse to destroy europe and guess what, austrian aggression against serbia was the perfect one.
Go fuck yourself, how about YOU go learn history.
Moron
"but muh ethnic germans in poland"
Screw you, german population in danzig was barely 1% and they were only living in pomerania and silesia
>>76948506
We unified the strongest and most populated land in Europe, is that little ?
Also, we tried to save the whole planet and end the Rothschild and their anglo pawns with Napoleon but failed at the end, only allowing the survival of our republic (which is already an achievement but not enough). Over a century later, this failure will bite us with WW1 and WW2, were they will consistantly do what they can so we suffer so much in those wars.
We're now back to square one. I wonder what they have prepared this time. It definitely seems like a truly major happening is coming soon though.
>>76948506
We also freed you just to see you fall to the same prey that consumed britiain (jewry).
We really failed everything we tried. This is sad.
>>76948610
go read a book
>>76933797
Mate, France staged an occupation with the Belgians as soon as Germany defaulted on its payments. I know you guys are explaining a lot of your butthurt with 1871 but when you are going back it's three of five wars that France started. We both know you guys can't play innocent victims just because everyone is throwing in memes about surrender and white flags about our last... engagements.
>>76932584
Here here.
>>76949483
Why so salty?
>>76949042
The Tzar told his cousin that he could not stop the Russian war effort and when Wilhelm II. commanded the military to abandon any military action he got the same response from his command stuff: It's too late to halt the Schlieffen-Plan.
All the royals tried to stop this stupid war. With good reason as their later replacement would show.
>>76949042
are you implying Gavrilo Princep was a German in disguise or something, because that was what led to WWI, there were other auxiliary factors but that was the main one.
>>76948854
Yeah, but what good did that really do for France?
>>76920846
US literally played the smallest role of any involved super power of both wars
>>76950240
An ally and a friend. Who sadely followed the steps of its father and after fighting it for a while ended up giving its economy to the jewish banksters.
>>76943109
>Yes, you are. No fuck off retard
Wow such a great argument, almost as good as french defense in 1940
>>76950125
How about we invade every country which an assassin comes from?
That's retarded
Especially retarded if you start a world war over it.
>>76920906
>>76920081
>>76919524
The Maginot Line actually was well designed and thought out and it actually worked as intended.
The idea of the Maginot Line wasn't to keep Germany out, it was to be able to defend the border with the least amount of men possible so most of your reserves can be kept in the center of the country to counter-attack.
The fall of France had nothing to do with the Maginot Line. It worked as intended. The Army's poor command isn't the fault of the Maginot Line.
Also, France had a treaty with Belgium for mutual defense and Belgium did not want their border to be fortified and in 1935 Belgium broke that treaty and made a non-aggression pact with Hitler.
Now compare the Maginot Line with Hitler's Atlantic Wall. Both had similar ideas behind them, it's just that one isn't called a failure by Historians even though it was penetrated.
>>76949483
Pretty sure Austria started that as claimed in your source, where is the argument?
>>76951470
Austrians, Germans- same thing
>>76951276
>How about we invade every country which an assassin comes from?
Only if the assassination is high profile and recent, seems justified
>That's retarded
Great argument, sure showed us
>especially retarded if you start a world war over it.
Did Mongolia get involved? Chile? You view of what constitutes "the world" is skewed
>>76951276
So when Iran would assassinate Barack Obama the United States would play it all cool and easy until Iran comes up with its investigative result?
>>76951542
Greeks, turks same thing
Am I right you debt infested muslim stain on ancient glory
>>76950341
You're welcome. We work smarter, not harder.
>>76943109
>>76950561
salted baguette
>>76921638
FIDF pls go
>>76950341
Bruh, we weren't even a superpower during WWI. Honestly the only reason we became one was because of you guys. Britain, France, Russia, Belgium and maybe some more countries paid for American businesses to tool up and build modern armaments. We got a whole war machine for free, literally. And even that didn't even prepare our country's military for war (okay our Navy was top notch then).
What really made us the #1 superpower was our manufacturers rebuilding Yurop after WWII.
>tl;dr: America is a superpower because of you guys
>>76952522
Thanks senpai, would Gallipoli again
I read that in the Ardennes, 6 French soldiers were able to hold off the entire German army for over 6 hours at a bridge in the narrow road. This backed up the German advance for miles. If the French Generals had not been so stupid, they could have sent aircraft and decimated the German advance.
The French need to understand they will always be smarter than their leaders... but that is true of everyone. Hierarchy and Leadership are rotten ways to get things done. A little bit of Management can go a long way.
>>76952792
There is really no reason to leave out Germany when mentioning American business in Europe. Without GM and Ford the Wehrmacht would have had to ride their bikes into Warsaw.
>>76953408
Opel and Ford of Germany weren't affiliated with their parent companies when WWII started.
>>76951922
It is a great argument, it doesn't make much fucking thinking.
The fact that you're actually ok with war just because a political figure got assassinated shows what kind of a fool you are.
>Did mongolia get involved
Mongolia did not exist.
It was part of the qing empire which was in civil war with the republic of china. Yes, actually, it was a world war since every major and non major country was involved.
South Africa gained its independence during it.
You see, back then most of today's countries were either england or france.
The entire middle east was the ottoman empire and persia.
Eastern Asia was Qing Empire and Japan
So yes, it was a world war, stop being a moron.
>>76951986
Gavrilo Princip wasn't involved with the serbian government in any way.
He was part of an organization named young bosnia.
Iran is an important player in international politics and a regional power.
There's also current diplomatic conflict between the US and Iran
>>76952135
>using memes to respond
ok lad
>>76953218
>the entire german army
wew, not really but a big enough part of it.
They were inside a bunker with an anti-tank gun.
I'm pretty positive that they had no radio to communicate with higher command.
>>76953218
The luftwaffe destroyed the french airforce on the ground because they were too slow to mobilize. At any rate moving into belgium was the fatal mistake to begin with.
Most shitty performances of armed forces in WW2 (in most other conflicts too) water down to poor leadership and/or equipment. The most obvious argument for that would be that the Italian soldiers actually fought valiantly in North Africa when they were under German leadership. There is an story that Rommel could always be seen in the first trenches (leading from the front), but the Italian officers were cucks who were expecting military honors and shit when they would actually show up; so basically no relationship to their soldiers.
>>76953816
They were and their companies were the major players. I haven't read it yet but Edwin Black also has a book on IBM and their useful tools.
>>76953844
>Gavrilo Princip wasn't involved with the serbian government in any way.
>He was part of an organization named young bosnia.
>Iran is an important player in international politics and a regional power.
>There's also current diplomatic conflict between the US and Iran
So your answer is that the United States would stay calm and await Iran's investigative results to arrive?
>>76954504
Gavrilo was a deluded young nationalistic cuck. I read his testimony, he thought that he was doing a "Good thing" and that he actually wouldn't be processed for helping "free" his people. Most of the actors were illiterate peasants (literally), used by higher powers for their shit. Not much different from today.
>>76920666
>what is encirclement
>>76954700
But that is not an answer to the question I was asking and it is such a simple one.
>>76952135
But he's right.
>>76953844
The fact that you would let a countryman die by a foreigner and ignore it because they were a politician shows how far you have fallen anon
>>76919524
that neutral belgium wouldnt be invaded and that hitler would first go for the rhineland that was taken from germany and push west from there
>>76919524
brake thru the weakest point of defense? or do you mean the french?
Then its, oing oing oing le stupid aleman will never go thru Belgium. oing oing oing
>>76948164
The UK will soon be destroyed by the pakis, we will obtain our revenge soon enough.
