Does the average American benefit from illegal Hispanic immigration in any way whatsoever? It seems like ultra elite billionaires are the only ones who benefit from having them here.
Get better tacos?
no and they don't benefit from legal "hispanic" immigration either.
infact, legal immigration is worse than illegal immigration. either way, their use of benefits well exceeds any economic gain they give, they are low IQ, they increase the crime rate and they provide a mass of cheap labor to undermine wages.
Vegans benefit too, since the lettuce pickers keep them fed.
>>76893665
A single unemployed or homeless American is enough to put a moratorium on immigration.
Only in food prices being lower than they might be.
Other than that, no, we do not benefit from them -- and, in fact, they hurt themselves by coming here illegally AND working below-poverty-level wages.
>>76893665
No, it's just an excuse for slave labor.
We benefit from sexy Latinas who love white cock
>>76893665
Prices would be higher without illegals doing shitwork that has to be paid under the table and isn't worth minimum wage. That said, their net benefit to the economy is up in the air given they also get to leech off of certain welfare programs and drive up medical and insurance costs.
>>76894016
>>76894050
Minimum wagetards already? Sweden says hi.
Taco pussy feels so good desu
I guess theoretically if a very intelligent illegal immigrant stays and becomes a nurse or a successful scientist? That must be extremely rare though, so not a good enough argument.
No. There's no evidence correlating illegal immigration with GDP, unemployment rate, or economic stability.
>>76894349
>Minimum wagetards already?
It has nothing to do with that. Less labor = higher wages. Americans aren't going to go bankrupt because they have to pay like $10 more on food every year.
>>76893815
You're an ignorant pleb aren't you. So kawaii
>>76893665
Cheap housekeepers and construction workers and general laborers.
They get paid more than someone who won't accept money under the table, due to tax and liability avoidance.
Really, illegals don't provide a lot of benefit that we don't get from people who are LEGALLY here, such as migrant agricultural workers and actual immigrants going through naturalization.
'Course, I haven't SEEN any illegals in ages. I'm assuming they either went home, or went to other states.
>>76893665
I don't in anyway whatsoever. In fact, they make my life more difficult. I can't understand them, they don't like me, and I have to now press one for English.
>>76894016
Where is this HUGE working below poverty wages from ? I hear it everywhere and it's straight up bullshit.
I live in Washington State.
There are way over 100,000 picker, washer, packer jobs in the Apple, Pear and Cherry industry.
Any illegal can arrive here and on day 1 get free housing, $12.50 an hour, free medical, free food and within a week they can get a driver's license.
They then can get a tax id with that driver's license and claim on their taxes EVERY single relative (including uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, grandmothers, grandfathers etc etc) and get tax returns in the $10,000 plus area.
At the end of the season they get a bonus in the multiple $1000's area.. then they drive their cars down to El Paso, cross over and then onto Jalisco for a well need vacation in Puerto Vallarta. That is fucking reality.
NO ONE is working for sub minimum wage.. NO ONE ZERO ZIP NADA.
>>76894677
Good for them. Must be nice to not live in a shit hole for once, and experience the good life. So many Americans take so much of life for granted. People are so stingy when it comes to the art of appreciation
>>76894677
It's cheaper because you don't have to follow labor laws, give workman's comp, or pay taxes or insurance, and they will gobble up hours, man.
Also are you sure they're illegal?
The federal government does have a temporary agricultural worker program(H2A) that is easy to get in on.
I don't doubt that some are illegal, but some probably aren't, and others may have primary residence in the USA but do seasonal migrant work.
>>76894502
>Less labor = higher wages
And higher wages mean higher prices. Congratulations on your excellent non-argument.
No and
> tfw no gf
>>76893815
>legal immigrants worse than illegals
Not all of us, nigger
Though I must admit a good majority of my people are trash. I would still opt in "betraying" them by helping to deport illegals.
I live in Vermont, so I'm not sure, apparently we have some of them here and conveniently they're SJWs.
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/after-a-dui-deportation-what-awaits-migrant-activist-victor-diaz/Content?oid=3349198
>>76895003
Nigger food prices aren't going to skyrocket without illegal laborers.
>>76893665
>Does the average American benefit from illegal Hispanic immigration in any way whatsoever?
When you can hire them directly, yes. Keep in mind that the factor you won't pay taxes for their services alone makes them so useful.
Most businesses started today are being started by immigrants. I don't know if its Hispanics though but its still telling that more people coming to country are starting businesses rather than the residents. HP literally started in a garage and now take into account what resources we have available today. We should have space rockets being build in every second neighborhood!
>>76895186
They might, depending on how unscrupulous certain farms are.
Some guys avoid legit migrant workers because then they'd have to follow the law.
>>76894016
All the day laborers here in CA make at least $15/hour.
>>76893794
>Get better tacos?
learn to cook fagot!
>>76895216
Hispanic business startup rates are through the roof.
Though that's mostly because actual LEGAL communities of hispanics in Texas and California developed to the point where they weren't poverty communities, and whenever a town hits a certain level of wealth and population, people naturally start businesses.
>>76895315
Same in Texas. General day labor, if you do it under the table, gets the same rate. A lot of the guys that do it are white.
>>76894947
Ok I have ALOT of experience with this.
So the majority of illegals come around the city of Puebla in Mexico.
If you go down there, which I have, there are small cities all a round Puebla where there are no men.
The men send their money back to the wives.
The wives have HUGE HUGE HUGE houses. I mean like 4000 sq/ft homes.. they are not living in poverty in Mexico.
I know I have stayed and eaten in their homes. I have been to their fiestas when the workers come back from the US. I have taught their children English.
They would poor be without the US wages.
Now ask yourself how many American you know living in 4.000 sq foot homes ?
>>76893665
they pad the crime statistics so it looks like more white people are going to prison than reality.
I guess that's a bonus, unless you want the "white" inmate count to be lower to make us look better. The wya it is now makes the system look less racist.
>>76893665
>>76895474
>Puebla, Mexico
>State capital
>4th largest city in the country
>2nd wealthiest city in the country
>Near the southern tip
Nigger, you're retarded, most illegals are Norteños, who are rural and poor, generally.
>>76894986
I have talked to both legals and illegals.
I speak almost perfect Spanish.
I was talking to a women the other day. She has been in the US for 12 years. She became legal after a few years from her childern born in the US.
She went to Jalisco and brought back 3 of her family including her mother. They are 100% illegal and are here and earning.
Even the Washington State Workforce office will tell you in Spanish about jobs that don't require documentation.
I know this because I was there with my wife talking to them in Spanish about it. They straight up told us that some jobs pay more if you work under the table... so.. make of that what you will.
>>76893665
do you hvae an HD pic of her?
>>76893665
Mmmmm i used to spam this qt nonfucking stop for 2 years and just lately I'm seeing her posted often
Feels good mang
>>76895862
I am talking about Washington State. You didn't read my previous message.. yes you are right. I am talking about the ones in my area of Washington State
>>76893665
Stop with this model she's too qt
>>76895921
Oi gimme a min
:D
Have this other spic qt
>>76895872
Sounds like Washington has an enforcement problem, then.
It's really annoying that they would bring their family members here and not even start the citizenship process for them, since it is trivial if you have a citizen family member, to begin Naturalization.
My family was heavily involved in the formation of LULAC and its parent organizations back in the day, and a major part of LULAC was helping people who would otherwise be in the country illegally start the naturalization process so they could be legitimate US citizens.
I feel that by dialing back operations because of the success of hispanics in assimilating in the 90's backfired, and now we have this huge asshole population of people who don't want to assimilate because Latino leaders dropped the ball in educating them.
>>76893815
I love how /pol/ uses those broad simplifications for everything.
I have a cousin managing a drone factory in California
>>76896556
Is he an illegal?
Also, is he going to sell his drones to scan the border so that other people can't join him?
>>76895921
>>76895997
>>76893665
Our agricultural industry has become dependent on $5/hour off the books workers. It would literally disappear without them.
Tfw no chilean gf
>>76896121
It's trivial to begin naturalization for a family member ?
You are talking to a person who's wife just arrived last week after a year of the naturalization process and $5000. My wife has two master degrees. It is not trivial if you do it properly.
Maybe it was easier before but now it's a nightmare. My wife told me that at the embassy that around 90% of the people got a "No" from immigration and were literally having full meltdowns in the Embassy.
>>76896700
I believed you agricultural industry is helped by massive government subsidies
>>76896700
Deport em
>>76896887
This
>>76896887
It's both.
I'm against the wall because I want a mestiza gf
Not really, no.
Mostly they take all the jobs that American high schoolers used to do.
Actually wonder what high schoolers do these days. Do they not work at all? I see them doing host jobs at restaurants (need to speak English) but that's about it.
Grocery stores are all immigrants. Kitchens are all immigrants. Waitress jobs are usually women in their 20s either working through college or deciding what to do with their degree in Women's Studies. Cleaning jobs are the immigrants that speak zero English.
Seems rare to spot an actual American high schooler, at least around here (D.C. area, immigration central).
>Living in a major city in the Southern US
>All the good cajun and Southern comfort restaurants have shut down
>They have all been replaced by Mexican restaurants
>There is literally a Mexican restaurant on almost ever street now
>It's all the same Tex-Mex garbage
The dispossession has already begun.
>>76897093
This p much
>>76897042
So on top of massive subsidies they need workers accepting abnormally low wages to be competitive?
>>76894412
>>76894412
>>76893665
if you live in the southwest, you benefit from cheap groceries at your local market
california bro here, get fruits and veggies for super cheap even when they're not in 'season'. but with all that being said, I wouldn't mind paying more if the farming jobs went to legal americans
Here come the feels again
>>76893665
Beneficial or not, illegal is illegal, deport that bitch.
>>76893665
Elite billionaires don't benefit from them much, except that they want pro-immigration sentiment to be positive in general so they can bring in skilled workers to replace American professional at lower pay.
>>76896679
>>76896802
oh fug
>>76897352
Rude :c
>>76897485
You like what you see Canada-kun?
It hurts me deeply
>>76896679
>has a head
I don't think that's a real Mexican senpai.
>>76896556
i love how some people can't understand averages and exceptions
you simplify and use generalizations because those are what matter when talking about society as a whole (300 million+ people) not individual examples
even high IQ immigrants dont stay that way because their children regress to the mean of their racial population. this is well known with blacks for example, because the children of blacks in the highest income ranges score lower on IQ tests and earn less than the White children of Manual shit workers. This is regression to the mean. It's the same for "hispanics" but to a lesser degree.
>>76897842
Very rude meme, pls remove
You're generally fine in Mexico so long as you dont join a cartel
>>76897044
race traitor
>>76894677
>>76895315
If illegals are making as much as you guys say they are, then why would businesses take the risk of being fined for more expensive employees?
>>76895052
the idea behind legal immigration, at least at current, is that it keeps out unskilled dregs and imports geniuses like the Russian google guy.
If Latinos who jump the border were trying to legally immigrate, they would never get in and that's the way it should be.
>>76898267
We should go back to quotas desu
>>76898139
Eh I'll get a lot of flak for it, but I dont really see what's so great about being white in the current day. If I could choose skin color I'd be light brown of some sort. Anyways if it makes you feel better, mexicans like the one pictured are probably like 60% european admixture
>>76898193
>>76898440
Goddamn it.
Why would /pol/ want to wall this off.
>>76898440
>anon, what skin color would you like?
"just shit my shit up f4m"
>>76895421
>whenever a town hits a certain level of wealth and population, people naturally start businesses
From Tom Woods and Robert Murphy I got the impression it's exactly the other way. It seems we are all getting pretty comfortable with time and nobody growing up thinks seriously about the hassle to start their own business. It's the social climbing and adventuring that drives the immigrants on simply because they don't have much already.
>>76897352
Yep.
What people should really be calling for is an updating of American immigration law. I do think there's a lot of room for a lot of good, smart, (English speaking) people to be given a path to citizenship that they don't currently have.
But Republicans mostly talk about enforcing the current law and Democrats mostly talk about ignoring the current law and nobody is talking about just making better laws.
Democrats had 8 years to do something about it, and 2 years where they had total control to pass anything they wanted even if 100% of Republicans voted against it (which is how we got Obamacare).
Democrats did nothing. And here we are.
>>76897044
You can order Russians and Asians, why not Mestizoes?
>>76898549
Nah I have much more garbage skin than the girls being posted
Pale/pink is not attractive and sunburns aren't fun
I want my children to be at least a little darker than me
>>76896802
>Chileans
Honorary Aryans.
>>76898546
They're turbo cucks is my guess
There is literally nothing wrong with unrestricted <25 female immigration.
>tfw no international harem
>>76898546
Because they peak at 12, and are grandmas at 25. What good is that?
>>76898566
tons of people white and non-white i know have businesses
the idea that its extremely hard to start a business in america is a libertarian talking point that isn't really true
>>76898931
This is a lie perpetuated by white women in an effort to cucking white men into being loyal to them while they take Tyrone's dick from all sides
They do the same sort of thing with Asian girls
>>76898729
lol
You just can't get a white gf because you're ugly and the only ones that will take you are the spics and niggers.
>>76899393
Not from what I've seen in CA. They are either a qt under 22 or a fat troll.
>>76899409
I hope youre aware that white women are renowned world wide for being literally the easiest women on the planet. They're not exactly high prize partner material and are just easy all around.
>>76899393
> Asian grills peak early and age fast
Said nobody ever, Pedro
>>76899098
They are not saying it's hard to start a business. With all the technology today it's fairly easy to them but it's a hassle nevertheless. The interesting point is that newcomers are the ones doing all the business starting.
>>76899580
Not that exact insult dumb ass. white women normally go for the "hurr real women have curves and asian women look like 12 year old boy so youre a pedo" card
>>76899577
Yet they still don't want you
>>76899746
lol
You're not white. You sound like some 12 year old spic faggot.
>>76899393
That one has a litter of ninos in daycare.
>>76899577
Who is this semen demon? I always see her posted here, but I've never heard her name.
>>76893815
Legal immigration became a bad thing after you cucks signed a bill to not exclusively import Europeans and work in quotas.
>>76900089
Tell me more about my nonwhiteness
>>76900016
Eh no one wants me, so I can be pretty objective with rating women
>>76900253
No idea. She was a meme on hispachan when I went there to try learning spanish and I just saved all her pics and spammed them to hell and back all over /int/ and /pol/ for years
Good to see she's finally catching on :)
>>76900428
Yea I saw those pics. Hurts my heart
>>76893665
You get to fuck once in a while for a modest price so yes you benefit from it.
>>76900495
<3
>>76900572
>>76900599
>>76900622
>>76900646
>>76900675
>politics
Fuck off
>>76899393
you act like they aren't fucking everywhere in the U.S.A. i see them everyday and they are ugly as fuck. take your brown shit somewhere else.
>>76893665
No. From quick google search
>Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments. The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per native-headed household of $1,117.
>>76898834
>tfw no international harem
Try /int/erpals
>>76900791
I see them everyday and they're qt as fuck
My anecdotal evidence > Your anecdotal evidence
>>76899500
Most Mexican grills are ugly...
>>76900938
Yeah they're all across oceans though. I can see why you'd use interpals to meet qts if you were in Europe, but its pretty useless in the states imo
I spent a lot of time messaging girls from there a few years ago and it's all time wasted desu. Dont talk to any of them anymore. When you do talk to the. They're usually juggling convos with you and about 10 other guys anyways
>>76900788
>>76900944
Well if this is your idea of QT I'm sorry
>>76900788
Fuck off back to /b/ faggot
This thread was about illegal immigration, not spamming your loose-vagina shitskin whore.
>>76901181
Post some of your qts then fagmeister
>>76898546
because we dont think with our cocks and put pussy on a pedestal like you cuck faggot
>>76901248
Its a general rule that if there is a qt in the op, then it is a designated qt dump thread
>>76897968
You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. You're a drooling, uncritical retard who believes everything you read on /pol/, the typical worthless right-wing degenerate.
Look at the scores for Black/White mixed students in the UK in the pic.
>>76901392
Where's the folder dump, it's the same woman over and over again. Is that the only attractive Mexican in existence?
>fewer jobs
>housing values go to shit
>spics shitting in the street and on your vegetables
>spics stealing
>spics in spic gangs
>everything is in spanish
>ugly fat mexicans everywhere
>the women shit out 10 kids a pop and start at age 16, the men hit on and try to molest white women instead of their donkey-looking own women
>spics 73% on welfare/bennies, pay no income tax, live 10 to a bedroom
>send all the money to mehico, drain US of circulating currency
>all go to doctor on public assistance, make lines longer, use up all open appointment times
>probably have literally killed people this way
>all drive without insurance/a license, hit and run, cause wrecks all the time
>if you want to see how a spic drives, look at india
Wow, at least I have some shitty diarrhea-inducing tacos to make up for it.
>>76897093
>Do they not work at all?
Pretty much. Getting a job is pretty hard for high school and college kids now, even a shitty part time job. Because all the fucking spics.
>>76901538
>those (You)s
Hnnnnnnnng
Ty sbain
>>76901600
No
>>76901580
>black students score lower than everyone else in every category
What are you trying to prove again?
>>76902127
I said look at the MIXED categories, you blind dumb fuck.
"Mixed White and African"
"Mixed White and Caribbean"
Where is the "regression to the mean"?
>>76901580
He didn't even mention half-breeds you stupid fuck, and why would a Mutt test score average from the UK have anything to do with the USA? Are you legitimately retarded?
>typical worthless right-wing degenerate.
Neck yourself.
>>76902462
Do you understand genetics? If there were regression to the mean causes by genetics, mixed race children should score roughly in between the scores of the two parent races. But that's not what happens. Mixed children in the UK score the same as White children. Therefore it's probably not genetic.
well the 4 mexican whores in my basement are worth about 5k on the russian market.roll quads and ill post some pics but u have to be mexican to open the box.see what im doing with the "best" of mexico.
>>76902402
His comment on regression to the mean had nothing to donwith mixed racers you blind fuck tard. Do you not know how to read?
>>76902668
But they do score lower than whites but higher than blacks. The only group to score higher than whites are asians or mixed asians.
>>76903333
>posts suddenly accelerate as repeating numbers get closer
Fuck you faggots
>>76901580
people use mixed race individuals as an example to disprove racial differences all the time because they tend to shift around more than the IQ's of people of one race - for obvious reasons, because you do not know the backgrounds of the people who are creating these children. You can also find examples of mixed race people tending to do worse than the median of the two races, and the explanation is the same for both examples.
A 135 IQ black that makes good money who mixes with a white will still have children that regress to lower than 135 but obviously will generally have more higher intelligence children that blacks with IQ of 99.
It literally does not refute anything I said, it's an outlier example (and not the only one) almost all world data shows mixed race people tending towards the IQ of of the between races.
>>76893665
Yes. Regular, older white people need services and so there are hispanics working the jobs.
At least thats how it is in Florida. Places with retirees and/or older populations usually have hispanics clustered around in less affluent areas.
>>76893665
Yes, only them benefit from cheap labor
It costs around 100 billion usd to mantain around 11 million illegals, and those only give back around 10 billion dollars in taxes
So, pretty much the average American is paying to have wetbacks there, using your public schools, taking care of them using Medicaid , giving them food stamps, etc
