why haven't we colonize space yet?
>>76849524
But we have. Earth is a literal spacecraft.
>>76850168
really makes you think
>>76849524
It's expensive and there isn't really much to do out there.
>>76849524
We spend a lot's of resource in feeding africa.
We are also more interested in short term gain than in future development.
>imagine a world without racists
>>76850211
Does it hurt your head, burger?
>>76850348
Maybe if we could farm planets for resources but nothing good right now
>>76850438
Not the same guy, but your comment genuinely made me think.
The only difference being that it's on the same course every single time instead of controllable.
>what if we can control the earth's revolutions
Now that has big implications.
>>76849524
This picture reminds me of when Windows freezes up, and you drag the window.
>>76849524
The US is growing plants on Mars as we speak. Going there is definitely going to be an option for the select few.
>>76849524
We don't have the resources or capabilities. We need to be a Type III civilization first and able to extract raw energy from stars. Basically controlling our galaxy and all of its resources.
>>76850494
exactly the jew comment expected from murifag
>>76849524
>ctrl-f niggers
>0 results
NIGGERS
Because we have to many unsolved problems on Earth to deal with.
Also there is no reason to go into space. No money to be made.
>>76849524
Because it's too damn easy. We ran out of difficult things to do.
>>76851018
>No money to be made.
there are litterly planets made out of diamonds senpai
>>76850765
What's the point of colonizing space though? It's expensive and at the moment would only help to understand the universe not fix domestic issues like energy.
>>76851090
Diamonds are not rare.
>>76851186
I didnt say they were rare
the point is you can make money out of diamonds
>>76849524
Space sucks, it's just giant money sink.
>but muh space minerals
We have enough minerals on Earth for the next millenia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-mFcEhQXQ
>>76849524
We need fusion power and other tech breakthroughs to make space exploration and mining viable. Right now,its too expensive to transport anything to space and there needs to be an economic incentive to colonise space. Once going to space costs as much as a plane ticket, expect there to be a boom in space exploration and mining.
Also we need Space elevators. Nano materials strong enough to create a hypothetical space elvator has yet not been created in sufficient quantities.
>>76851018
>too many unsolved problems on Earth to deal with
For you
Social justice issues like racism and feminism can eat my nuts. Whites are going to space.
The day one country with one culture rules the world will humans have the time and energy to rule space.
>>76851353
>space exploration
There's literally nothing to explore.
>>76850348
Oh yah , nothing, just asteroids that contain more precious metal than we have on the planet.
Stfu dumbass.
>mfw Germany's asylum seeking policy might cost more than the combined space budget worldwide
>>76850747
Eh? You can't exactly get to type 3 without colonizing the local solar system beforehand... type 1 is sufficient
>>76851324
>Millennia
Even though Gypsum is running low and the world is getting ever so smaller.
NASA predicts that if we keep this up, we'll lose speed in a few decades
>>76849524
Because we are to busy destroying eachother
>>76850839
this
>>76849524
Because the 3rd world is holding us back.
If we so choose to, we could have been mining asteroids 20 or 30 years ago. If we had we would be hands down the richest nation on earth with a near-infinite supply of metals.
But colonizing space means the jews have to set up a whole new scheme to take a whole new kind of industry, and I don't think there willing to loose the power they have over the earths metals and gems.
>>76851678
>Mexican space agency
Do they develop rockets to send people across the border?
Elon Musk promises the first mission to mars by 2018. It won't be long before we have colonies on Mars.
>>76849524
Because a single race on earth has yet to prevail. Too much strife here. Either we get over racism and become one big happy mixed family or one race needs to genocide the others. I'm hoping that hillary is actually a secret white Hitler and kills everyone then Newt can sweep in and make our moon bases.
>>76851603
>asteroid mining will pay for itself like my video games and sci-fi show it to do!
Well the only country with enough resources is the US and they are way too busy sorting out internal issues. Don't worry, once they build the wall it's only a matter of time
Too primitive a species at this point.
>>76849524
Because of christianity
>>76849524
How are you going to colonize space if niggers jews and women exist?
>>76849524
Because of welfare, socialism, niggers and islam. They are wasting our resources.
>>76852077
Pretty much this. We need to genocide the third world. We need their resources but no longer need their people. This is why I promote climate change denialism; climate change will btfo third world the most
>>76849524
you westerners lack many things we already have colonized the moon, in fact the ottoman empire continues to reign on it
>>76851678
>Pakistan had a better space agency than Mexico
Step it up Mexican """"""intellectuals""""""" even the Pakis can stop blowing themselves up for enough time to focus on space.
>>76852362
>what is cutting funding to useless bullshit
We have way to many bureaucratic offices reviving government money for doing either
A. What 5 other offices already do
B. Nothing at all.
Plus the amount we spend of wellfare, military spending, pensions for baby boomers, ect.
We can easily afford to do it 10 times over, were just being sucked dry at the moment.
>>76852578
We should make world war 3 mainly in Africa and middle east.
>>76849524
Fuck off space is full.
Because it would be a net deficit. While space is not devoid of natural resources, the fundamental fuel problem of escaping Earth's gravity will make anything that could in any way be called "colonization" economically non-viable to an extreme degree.
>>76852597
I honestly can't wait till I manufacturer a false flag that allows the US to destroy your shit hole
>>76852290
Mixing with the other races means we'll never get off this planet.
>>76852597
Too much Terra Formars
>>76852079
Will likely cooperate with NASA in some way, sending satellites or whatnot.
>>76852723
I honestly can't wait til i get to live in your country lad
soon
>>76852669
It needs to be a war to genocide anything that isn't European heritage. Rest of Europe must then give up their languages and cultures and learn English and adopt to the broader English language culture or also be genocide. The only real way forward is with a single culture and people
>>76852920
Or we could just, y'know... let globalization run its course.
>>76852727
Which is why I prefer genocide.
>>76851603
Except you're wrong.
The mass of the entire asteroid belt is estimated to be around 1/20th the mass of the Moon.
I would place a safe bet that there's more precious metals on the moon by mass than in the entire asteroid belt, not to mention that lunar resources (or shit plugged deep into the crust of the Earth) are about as far away from our grasp as "asteroid mining".
>>76851090
Diamonds dont have much value or uses other than for jewellery and as a hedge. The price of Diamond have always been aritifically inflated. If we found a planet full of diamond and we were able to,extract ot cheaply, Diamomd would be cheaper than food. Its a scam. Rare earth metals that are required for electronics, and hence is required for our technological socoety and is running out, will be the resource we will eventually extract from astroids in space.
>>76852827
Nice. Want to be one of my moles. If so please go bomb hagia sophia
Because there's nothing desirable out there. The idea of colonising Mars is as stupid as if we were to colonise Mount Everest. Reaching it is an achievement but living there is a waste of resources.
>>76849524
Because we have been forced by (((them))) to have endless ghoul hordes which now hold the Aryan man down.
>>76850421
Or people who dont get offended over a word.
>>76851090
But just by bring a fraction of the diamonds in to earth would make all diamonds worthless
>>76852960
Nah. Skin color and physiology will always be a way to create group conflict. Genocide or non whites is the only way
>>76849524
niggers and jews
>>76850348
Except fight in gundams
>>76849524
I just don't see it as being feasible.
The main problems are radiation exposure and the lack of gravity. These things lead to serious adverse effects. You get a metric fuckton more radiation exposure than on earth. Say hello to cancer. And the lack of gravity wreaks havoc on your bones and cardiovascular system, leading to osteoporosis and possibly congestive heart failure due to the abnormal way blood gets pumped in a zero-G environment.
And that's just the stuff we know about so far from the relatively short durations our astronauts spend in space. We can only imagine what sort of complications would occur from people permanently living in space from birth to death.
>>76852960
But globalization isn't interested in space.
What it's interested in:
1)Step one= Universal mud race with jews on top
2)Step two= Life extension for afformentioned jews
Maybe in 200-300 years and after they achieved that they will fund robots to replace the giant sea of shitskins that will be earth by then
>>76849524
The technology, resources, and investment that could've been used to colonize space have instead been spent on making annual releases of millions upon millions of iphones.
>>76849524
We have, what do you think the US is spending it's undisclosed trillions in black projects on?
>>76853057
What your saying is correct, however many asteroids are composed of almost entirely iron, nickle, even gold, ande has other metals scattered thoughout them.
Our moon and our earth, on the other hand, is mostly rock except for the core, which we can't get to (yet)
That's not mentioning metals like platinum, very rare on earth, much more common in space.
Hitler lost.
>>76853095
na mate you got me wrong, ill be too busy raping your wife and cucking you
>>76853517
Why are you speaking English? Are you not already cucked by my language? In your mind raping your right now as you read this.
>>76853455
>platinum meme
What exactly do we need these unfathomable quantities of platinum for?
Only a couple 100 tons of the stuff entered the market in 2012. You realize that if someone showed up with 10,000 tons of platinum that the price of platinum would be as low as milk at your local grocery store, right?
>>76853624
this, we cucked them together
>>76851480
>billions of stars in every galaxy, at least
>trillions of galaxies
>14 billion year old universe (at least)
>nothing to explore
Okay senpai. The wildest thing you can imagine probably exists. Somewhere.
Think of the millions of civilizations before us. Interstellar empires that fell and rose.
We are on the foaming ocean shores that is the observable universe
>>76853784
Love our special relationship.
best friends forever. Now please leave the fucking EU and let us form the proper Anglo sphere of power and truth.
>>76853624
> In your mind raping your right now as you read this.
Having problems speaking your own language?
>>76853920
will be voting leave
>>76853742
>thinking I want platnum for jewlry
I ain't no woman.
Platinum, gold and diamond only real use is in industry and electronics. Without limitations on our metals, we can mass-produce new tech we could only dream of before.
>>76850348
Let me tell you why it's worth the cost, and what there is to do out there.
What is there to do in space? Plant crops. Tend them, harvest them, feed them to your children. And, here's the kicker, here's why it's worth it, if you don't like the place you're at you can move.
Once upon a time you could do that on Earth. There were two or three entire fertile continents ready for colonization, and plenty of folks found some land, planted crops, tended them, harvested them, and fed their children. Then they got rich, built cities, and made it hard for the people that just wanted to grow crops and be left alone.
Earth right now is excellent for people who want to live in cities and get along with the crowd. There are probably a lot of those people in this thread. But for the sort of folks who get antsy when someone else's smoke is on their horizon, Earth is crap, it's crowded, every piece of land is OWNED by someone, and even if they take a piece of junk land and make it a paradise someone's going to come along and say they owe taxes on it.
No thanks. It's hard to colonize space, and expensive, but it's the best frontier we've got.
>>76850839
yup this adding another for more control f's
NIGGERS sand or black i blame them both.
>>76853742
That's the point. We can make huge fuel cells running natural gas then.
>>76849524
Jews have held us back
>>76853742
Everything you could make using platinum would be much, much cheaper.
>>76854056
About fucking time.
I'm hoping that the silver lining of Hillary winning here is a strong alliance of Anglo blood and history across our many nations.
We must make up for the shame of the Rothschild embarrassment and genocide rest of the world.
>>76849524
Anglo that aren't white whites (including Jews)
Poo in loos
Middle easterners
Africans
Hispanics
>>76854204
>earth is overcrowded meme
>>76854349
Nah. We have allowed Jews to hold us back. The Jew has no power that we haven't given them. It is time for the Anglo sphere to awake and to do our duty.
>>76854368
Name some examples. Platinum is dense and heavy and by its annual production not in high demand.
>>76854307
[citation] needed, preferably not a jewpedia article
>>76854202
See my previous comment, platinum clearly isn't all that useful otherwise we would be producing much more of it.
>gold in electronics meme
There are people already trying to reclaim gold out of electronics waste, as it is very valuable trash indeed.
>>76854479
Earth is overcrowded with too many non whites. I can't wait to white wash this place
>>76854204
>being so lazy that you'd rather try and colonize space than work for your own land here.
You'll never own your own land faggot.
>>76854479
He's right to some extent, most of the habitable land is either occupied or ruled by cucks and(or) criminals. Another problem is that space - at current tech level - is no better than trying to survive in the middle of desert or some frozen butthole. Kinda defeats the whole point of moving to greener pastures, so to say.
>>76849524
Christianity
>>76849524
Give us a few more years. It's hard.
>>76855066
>better than trying to survive in the middle of desert or some frozen butthole.
On Earth you have the massive advantage of having breathable air as a given, no matter it's temperature.
In space you don't get an uninterrupted 101 kPa 80% nitrogen 20% oxygen atmosphere.
>>76855237
t. Fedora
![Ir905bR[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/tn1PxR0.gif "Ir905bR[1].gif")
>>76855711
>>76854821
>See my previous comment, platinum clearly isn't all that useful otherwise we would be producing much more of it.
There is hardly any of it to produce, it's rare and has to be used sparingly. Platinum has a specific amount of resistance that comes in useful in certain electronics, as does gold and silver.
>>76855507
And trying to survive in wilderness pits you against shortage of drinkable water, arable land, shit soil that makes building shit harder, etc.
I mean, any of those issues, breathable air included, can be solved but at what price? That's the actual problem.
>>76849524
Because Obama stopped funding NASA also previous presidents under funded said agency for decades.
>>76852642
It's not a matter of funding. It's a matter of return on investment.
Even if there were bricks of pure gold stacked up on asteroids for us to grab, the cost of going to get it and bring it back would be more than the value of the gold.
Precious metals are a meme. It's the more exotic substances that are actually worth the effort. Shit like helium 3. But we can get that from the moon.
>>76854821
I almost forgot about this but ammo. Platnums desity makes into great projectiles, but it will never be used as such, for obvious reasons. if PT was a common as iron, weapons could be made more powerful, especially heavy artillery.
Why do people act like a space colony would be in any way connected to the goals of 'humanity at large' even 10 years out from Earth?
It will almost immediately take on a new structure. Whatever we put in place can and will be upset. The colony could devolve into anarchy, could take a socialist approach, could have the security forces stage a coup, one particular member could declare themselves king, etc. There could be genocides on board. There will be class division.
A new culture will spring up, wholly unique to the colony.
If we spit a colony ship into space, it WON'T be for 'us.' It will be for the human race and nothing more. Concentrated space exploration for a particular organization, nation, or even a global government is NOT feasible will sub-lightspeed colony ships. It's essentially like throwing all that money and materials and manhours and people into space, never to be seen again.
>>76850574
>The only difference being that it's on the same course every single time instead of controllable.
>typical ameritard education
the sun and the galaxy itself is moving through the universe, we literally have never been in the same place of our universe
>>76856418
>Precious metals are a meme.
Why is everything, even things that are clearly useful and practical, a meme? Because you don't agree with it? fuck off.
The investment return would be 1000X what it costed to go out once the metals are refined and produced into circuit boards, wires, and other electronics, which could then be used to build a butter spaceship to get us back there even cheaper, and repeat the process.
Or, if we really got ballsy, we could drag and asteroid into a orbit around the earth.
>>76857163
>implying he didn't quite obviously mean same course relative to our local solar system
>implying this is not common pleb-tier knowledge.
>>76856258
Pumping out a few billion resistors doesn't seem to justify the costs though, just from an economical perspective.
Besides, platinum is available enough for the applications it is currently used in.
>>76856275
Don't conflate a wilderness with vacuum. Primitive humans lived in caves after all.
The cost of developing absolute garbage land is still magnitudes cheaper than anything in space.
>>76856661
Depleted uranium projectiles, are you looking at building bunker busters that you need such heavy artillery projectiles?
WW2 tech was able to smash through 10 meters of reinforced concrete like it's nothing.
>>76855066
That's the point. If you make your land worth something, someone's going to want it.
>>76854922
>implying I don't
My family has owned our half-section in Butler County KS for seventy years. About fifteen years ago we tried to put a wind farm on it. Would have saved the farm, as it is we'll lose it before my kids are grown, but the county commission blocked it because it wasn't "in keeping with the rural character of Butler County -" on the same night they approved the wind farm on a ranch down the road. And every night we looked east and saw the lights on the wind towers that our neighbors could have because they could afford to buy county commissioners.
If you are not a government you do not own land.
>>76853057
>I would place a safe bet that there's more precious metals on the moon
The moon doesn't have that much metals. It's mostly rocky crust. Most of the metal that would have been in the moon is actually in the earth as a result of the collision that created the two.
>>76849524
Niggers and jews
>>76849524
Black men are busy Colonizing white and asian wombs.
>>76849524
niggers and women
>>76857559
Not necessarily resistors. Sometimes you need wire with a certain amount of ohms per foot, or you need a denser or more heat-resistent materiel to make something out of. Platnum will flow electric current at more than 1600 degrees Celsius being beaten only by tungsten, which is a shitty conductor.
The future's base armor is a lot better then concrete.
>>76853895
And 99.9999999999999999999999999% of it is beyond our reach FOREVER.
>>76857795
What's there is a lot easier to get out with the Moon's gravity. And there's plenty of water there.
>>76849524
Because
1. We don't have the technology, political and social will, resources and money for it
2. There are more important things to worry about right now
>>76858229
Human, or rather white ambition and intuition find a way. We used to think breaking the sound barrier would result in instant death and destruction of the vehicle. I'm sure we can find a work-around for the speed of light, were smart and we pick things up quickly.
>>76858229
>economies of scale don't exist
>>76850574
If we could just speed up Venus' rotation, blast some of its atmosphere into space and terraform the rest we could have a nice back up planet
>>76858515
Why do religious fanatics have to try to weigh in on everything? Look, I'm part of a weird religion too. I don't try to hide it, but I don't try to make every conversation about how much better things would be if everyone followed MY prophet.
And I certainly don't tripfag about it.
>>76858753
Take it easy bro
>>76858515
Tripfaggot get out
Follow your leader into the bananazone
>>76858932
>friends
>>76857174
You're an idiot. The cost of the raw material (gold, platinum, etc.) Is driven by market forces and the cost to extract and refine it. Going out into fucking space to mine shit that is literally under our feet is fucking retarded. You would be adding an order of magnitude to the cost of extraction for an element that we've been mining for millenia.
It's simple fucking math.
The only thing that is worth going out into space to mine is shit we can't get on Earth.
>>76853165
it's the fact that you're willing to happily embrace a word that's nothing but a long history of saying 'fuck you, [minority], we're white men and we're number fucking 1, lick my boot'.
it shows you're a disrespectful lout
>>76858932
Go to reddit if you want upboats and attention.
Tripcodes are for risk threads only on /pol/
>>76858955
Only after hitlerites follow his leader
>>76859159
So 4chan was made thinking about risk threads
>>76859103
>The only thing that is worth going out into space to mine is shit we can't get on Earth.
What the fuck are we going to do with that? We will make NO money off mining that because it won't have any applications moron. There is only so much metal in the earth to take from earth, and while we might be good on things like iron and steel for a few hundred more years, we don't have enough platinum, uranium, Lanthanum, Europium, Erbium, or Neodymium. What happens when we run out, because those last 4 metals i listed? Hardly any of them exist on earth, but all are plentiful in space.
>>76859636
>on /pol/
Portuguese reading comprehension.
>>76860071
But the name box was here from the beggining, i think. Also, where is the rule? Why do you care if i use a trip?
>>76849524
It's literally what we need to do. There's no other foreseeable destiny for a species aside from expansion and exploration.
We must do this, it's important.
>>76858580
Please explain to me how that would overcome the vast distances involved in interstellar travel, let alone the mind numbing distances involved in intergalactic space travel.
>>76849524
niggers and kikes
>>76860221
>We must do this, it's important.
True. But the question is when?
>>76860310
>muh wormholes
>>76860181
Do you see anyone else posting with a trip? You do it for attenton, and I'm dumb enough to give it to you. Nobody gives a shit who you are, nor does anyone want to carry on a conversation from a previous thread. Your full of shit and everyone on the site knows it and hates you.
>>76860426
>Do you see anyone else posting with a trip?
I do.
>You do it for attenton
I never pretended i don't
>Your full of shit and everyone on the site knows it and hates you.
Thank you
>>76860421
When your kind stop existing fucking liberal scum, fuck social issues, let's go full technocrat
http://www.citylab.com/tech/2014/07/the-surprisingly-strong-case-for-colonizing-venus/373560/
I'll plunge into her atmosphere if you know what I mean.
Religion.
>>76860310
If you need to take a millennium to build a spacecraft out of a star you do. If you need to build a structure out of molecular bonds and propel it with supernovae you do. It might take a million years to build up our industry to that point, but each step would have to be taken.
Right now we can't ship large amounts of goods between Earth and orbit. Five hundred years ago it was difficult to do so between America and Europe, but Spain built a fleet of ships massive enough to do it. The only difference is scale.
>>76860421
>>muh wormholes
That's a technological leap, not an increase in economies of scale.
>>76860568
>I do.
No you don't, your the only one in this thread and probably the only one on /pol/ unless a risk thread is up. Kill ys tbqh familam
>>76849524
What's the point? We have massive, almost completely uninhabited stretches of land on Earth with breathable air, adequate water, and a temperate climate.
Why would we colonize areas that don't have any of those things when we have plenty of space left still on earth?
pic related, Wyoming
>>76860841
just like how religions have never been a driving force for colonization before amirite
>>76849524
cuz shits too expensive
>pic
what do you do when an asteroid hits?
>>76860920
>You wouldn't happen to be growing any... cannabis on your wide open spaces, citizen? Because we just might have to take them back if you are.
>>76849524
Because artificial gravity isn't practical yet.
>>76859978
Wow dude. Look up shit like Helium 3. It's practically nonexistent on Earth but is the key fuel source for any type of potential fusion technology.
Going into space in order to make money off of metals we can mine on earth is foolish.
You want to worry about way off in the future, but there isn't a need for mining asteroids for stuff we can get on earth right now. Let's focus on what we CAN'T get right now.
>>76859103
I don't think you understand how large or rich asteroids are.
Asteroid 433 Eros, a 13km long chunk of rock, contains more gold than has ever been mined on Earth, along with similar amounts of other metallic elements. If you were to claim an asteroid of that type for mining, you'd basically have an entire Earth's worth of minerals. Even if you had to fund a multi-billion dollar space program to drag it to orbit, the return on investment would be immensely lucrative. And there are hundreds of thousands of similar asteroids.
One of the concerns with asteroid mining is that we'd crash the entire market with volume.
>>76860962
Die.
>>76860920
>we should ruin our countrysides to house more niggers
fuck off
>>76860714
What makes you think "my kind" is what makes colonization not happening?
>>76860893
itt i am the only. But there are a couple dozens others here. There is a guy that posts with a Trump tripcode that never gets shitted on, it's crazy.
>>76860920
Becuase itt there are only kids who want to "escape" the world (homework). It's literally a waste to attempt coloniztion of other planets now and in this century.
>>76860962
same thing you do when a big enough asteroid hits earth.
you die.
>>76861393
well you see... the difference is for earth to be affected the asteroid needs to have a size of several km while an asteroid just a few cm in size already has the potential to fuck up a space station
these things can be 30km/s and faster
>>76860871
The shit you're talking about isn't even theoretical science. It's cheap science fiction.
>>76861175
>contains more gold than has ever been mined on Earth
Gold is valuable because it's shiny and rare. Other then that there are't many praticable uses for it.
also>>76853057
>>76851018
>No money to be made
I'm screen caping your post so that many, many years from now I can quote you and tell that your the wrongest man in history.
>>76849524
>He fell for the space meme
>>76860927
le arbitrary reference to the past since the 1800's were the exact same as they are now xD xD
Just end yourself, shill. Religion is useless for humanity
>>76861731
>gold doesn't have practical uses
>>76861731
Are you dense? Gold is valued the world over for its conductive properties, both heat and electricity, as well as its resistance to chemical change and corrosion. Literally computers would not exist without gold. Gold foil is on everything sent to space.
>>76861166
>Let's focus on what we CAN'T get right now.
Lanthanum, Europium, Erbium, and Neodymium
We can't get these in quantities to meet our current demands. There you go. Now get your pickaxe and get to work.
>>76861834
What money is there to be made in space?
>>76861653
The asteroid the drove the dinosaurus to extinction was 1 km wide iirc
>>76861731
>Other then that there are't many praticable uses for it.
Wow so your a trip user, a lefty and a retard?
Hardcore.
>>76862165
>What money is there to be made in space?
You sound like one of those people who think money comes in these limited quantities that we have to sort of mine.
>>76857163
So what's at point 0,0,0 of the universe?
>>76860814
TL;DR:
>Well let me tell you, acid is good for meat, and breaks down connective tissue, fats, and tenderizes it. Run the pH the other way and it turns into soap and you might as well bite into a urinal cake.
>Venus is not for the timid, or people too afraid to shove a fat bird out the airlock and let the harsh laws of thermodynamics do the work. Venus is for men. Men who like to eat meat – cooked in fire and acid and seasoned with the Devil’s own mix of volatiles boiled up from the pits of hell.
>If the thought of Thanksgiving Dinner on Venus gives you the heebie jeebies, you don’t even need to think about plunging into the roiling atmosphere with nothing but a cheap plastic heat shield and a thin balloon to save you from the crematorium that yawns down below. So man up, dangle the bird into the depths of the Stygian hell, feast as someone who walks between worlds and lives on an airship that rides the hell born winds 30 miles above a surface so hot it glows visibly red.
everyone laughed at Newt for suggesting a moon base
>>76849524
>why haven't we colonize space yet?
We have, look into the works of Gabriel Kron and Ronald Richter to help you understand how such a thing is possible.
>>76862358
Me and you, baby
>ywn see Space Nazis take on Earth fuckers with a hue flag.
>>76862165
>The asteroid the drove the dinosaurus to extinction was 1 km wide iirc
first, there is no evidence that dinosaurs went extinct because of an asteroid. it is just a nonscientific theory
second, they estimate that the asteroid had a size of 10-15km
>>76854204
This.
Space exploration will be the most freeing thing for humanity. Don't like this planet? Then fuck off to another rock that suits your tastes more. It'll be great. It's just a shame that Islam is going to burn down the west and set us back 150 years, so we'll never live to see it :(
>>76862165
First and foremost asteroid mining. It is a very market and already have two competing companies.
Secondly space tourism. Look at Virgin Galactic, and they're just the first iteration. Eventually you'd get space hotels and resorts type stuff. And of course once we start inhabiting space more often we'll need a whole new range of products and decides that will work in microgravity. The dude who figures out s microgravity deep fryer will be rich, trust me.
>>76858212
I can't think of many applications (save induction furnaces possibly) that require high current at 1600 C.
I'm not trying to beat down platinum, but the supply matches demand.
Besides if I remember right there's a thick layer of platinoids (iridium, osmium, platinum) right beneath almost the entirety of Texas.
>>76862614
>No evidence
Er. What about the whole K-Pg boundary? That kind seems as a smoking gun that an asteroid played a big role in the climate change that killed the non-ave dinosaurs.
>>76862090
Other then electronics (wich require very small amounts of it) and medicine, Gold as no practible uses.
>>76862113
>Gold is valued the world over for its conductive properties
Copper and silver are better
> as well as its resistance to chemical change and corrosion. Literally computers would not exist without gold. Gold foil is on everything sent to space.
And the gold we have on earth is more then enough to cover all of this
>>76851091
We could farm the Sun, plenty of energy there!
>>76862699
What minerals would be mined on asteroids?
>Secondly space tourism.
I conced on this one.
>>76849524
Because humans cucked themselves.
Tfw growing up you were promised flying cars, mars colonization, AI, etc.
Tfw all you got was transsexuals and black lives matter
I feel skeptical we'll ever make space travel quick enough for it to really be viable to transport goods between planets.
>>76863448
I feel with you. I was betrayed as well!
>>76863125
>And the gold we have on earth is more then enough to cover all of this
For how long? Earth isn't an endless pit of minerals, and most of them we can't get to. We are using more metal, including gold, each year. Introducing a near-limitless supply of gold would kick our industry is to high gear and result in new technology.
And there's still the issue of the more rare metals like Europium and Lanthanum. Were practically out of the stuff.
>>76863287
everything.. There are entire platinum rocks ect floating around
>>76863686
If you warp spacetime you can bring two points almost next to each other allowing for extremely fast travel over vast distances.
>>76850574
>I don't know how ID system works
>>76863701
>For how long?
That is a reasonable question. But for now we should not worry about it. We should worry about overpopulation, energy and the environment. After we have this sorted out, we could coordinate the whole world to Mars colonization.
>>76863686
In Solar system it's possible to transport goods like minerals and water. Now inbetwenn solar systems it enters scy-fi
>>76863812
Platinum was already discussed itt, check the posts of the austrian poster
>>76863833
And how do you warp spacetime?
>>76849524
Because a political organization has not taken up the call to colonize. We need a specific and clear plan that integrates profit. The idea that space development is preventatively expensive is wrong. The initial capital outlay is huge, but a large enough investment consortium could do it.
There are many ways to monetize space and the Moon, particularly.
>>76860920
Looks arid as fuck.
>>76849524
Why would the curve the floor of their Stamford torus? Surely the simulated gravity would drop off at the edges and it would be a pain in the arse not having consistent gravity over the surface.
>>76849524
>we
Only America will do it.
>>76863921
>overpopulation
This wouldnt be an issue if it werent for places like Africa or India.
>energy
Lattice assisted nuclear reactions are being used now to power some of our more exotic airframes.
>environment
I am not sure how to feel about this as all raw data is being hidden from public purview right now.
>>76864128
Gabriel Kron and Ronald Richter works explain the concept well.
>>76849524
And we won't. Coz prob we will end up sending gays transsexuals or other degenerates in space coz muh pc
>>76863921
>We should worry about overpopulation, energy and the environment.
>overpopulation
Send them out to space
>energy
Set up a system of solar panels in close orbit around the sun
>environment
Stop mining the earths resources and mine from space instead, where animal habitats can't be hurt.
>>76864298
As a transgender engineer who works at JPL I am fucking ashamed to have you breathing my air.
>>76849524
Capitalism. Literally. Too many resources have to go into fat paychecks for the rich, since the primary (only) motive is profit, not progress. Space colonization requires immense resources. It took the entire planet's "space"-worthy nations and over $100 billion to build the ISS and it's a piece of shit. The richest family on Earth (the Waltons) are only worth about $149 billion.
>>76862916
what about the Permian–Triassic extinction event? there are also theories that an asteroid impact has caused it. and said impact crater is not even confirmed. that really makes me wonder. when there are so many unconfirmed craters, how do we know for sure what is a crater and what is not? and how can we tell that it was indeed the impact event that caused said extinction? how can we accurately determine said extinctions? we have been wrong about many things before
I am aware that I lack knowledge about the subject and I think that the theory could be true. but I do not see any concrete evidence that it is
>>76849524
muh social programs
>>76863287
Legitimately the biggest one is water belive or not. H2O is the biggest thing we need in space, and one of the most abundant as ice.
H2O is single most useful chemcial in space. It can broken down into rocket fuel, in to oxygen to breath. It can also stay as water to grow plants and to drink. Due to its weight it costs some absurd amount to get water into orbit. But if we had a steady supply in orbit already, it would significantly cheaper the cost of space travel.
And of course there's metals. Some would be worth bringing back to earth in small amounts, but both space mining companies want to keep and refine the metal in space. They want basically orbital foundries. Build the space ship in space and skips the expansive step of space travel. Planetary resources actually made some great progress recently by printing with asteroid dust http://www.space.com/31553-asteroid-metal-3d-printing-test-planetary-resources.html
And here's some basic estimates on a few known asteroids http://mashable.com/2012/04/26/planetary-resources-asteroid-mining-trillions/#QA9FxO4Aj5qb
>>76864553
>Too many resources have to go into fat paychecks for the rich, since the primary (only) motive is profit, not progress.
There is a secret space program meant to get us to parity with threats from beyond the Earth. It is like the Manhattan project in terms of scope and scale but instead of going on for merely two years it has been going on for over 60 now.
>Space colonization requires immense resources
Yes, which can be easily extracted, moved or utilized if you have the power to do so.
>The richest family on Earth (the Waltons) are only worth about $149 billion.
There are richer families my bluepilled friend.
>>76864734
>rocket fuel
Chemical rockets are worthless for space travel unless you are NASA in which case that is all you can use otherwise the public may realize that chemical rockets are a thing of the past.
>>76865069
>There is a secret space program meant to get us to parity with threats from beyond the Earth. It is like the Manhattan project in terms of scope and scale but instead of going on for merely two years it has been going on for over 60 now.
Well of course, but we're just talking about the overt space program, aren't we?
We must colonize ocean first.
Lessons learned from ocean colonization may prove applicable to space colonization. The ocean may prove simpler to colonize than space and thus occur first, providing a proving ground for the latter. In particular, the issue of sovereignty may bear many similarities between ocean and space colonization; adjustments to social life under harsher circumstances would apply similarly to the ocean and to space; and many technologies may have uses in both environments.
>>76864572
Well that's true. It's really hard to find craters. I remember the story of the the crater so large no one even recognized it until we got satellites to view from above because it was big you couldn't tell any other way.
The P-T extinction has the unfortunate thing that the sea floor recycles itself. Making it hard for evidence to survive.
However we have almost certainly found a crater matching the estimtes for the K-Pg extinction. Chicxulub crater, it also fits temporally and geographically.
That's not to say it was solely an asteroid, but the common theory that I've read up on is that most dinosaurs had become unfortunately very evolutionary ridge and unadaptive to new changes in their environment. So they were already having a bad when the asteroid hit and really sealed their fate. There was actually an article published recently talking about this, https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160418160957.htm
>>76849524
We were getting close.
But then diversity happened.
>>76865069
Worthless even to companies in the private space business like
SpaceX
Boeing
Lockheed Martin
And like half a dozen more?
>>76865474
pls visit
>>76865923
>Lockheed Martin
We dont use chemical rockets for our airframes anymore. We do use them for things that the public will know about but that is all, otherwise we have moved to latticed assisted fusion using counter rotating plasmas.
>>76866000
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>>76852727
>>76849524
If we want to colonize land not inhabited by intelligent life we should start with Africa first.
>>76853057
the moon is hollow, jewgle it
>>76853057
and check out richard c hoagland, used to be part of NASA
http://enterprisemission.com/
>>76853059
the only reason why Chiyna is the only place rare earths are mined is because they are normally only found with Thorium, which is radioactive, and therefore causes a lot of pollution
if only there was a use for Thorium to make it worth our while to mine them
oh! the LFTR?
>>76859116
we do though
why are you infecting our board with your newfaggotry?
>>76853355
the gravity problem is easily solved with spinning habitats, not sure why they didn't do that on the ISS
the radiation problem is pretty hard to solve though
>>76853920
voting leave, thanks bestie
>>76854821
>Platinum is dense and heavy and by its annual production not in high demand.
not in demand, yet more valuable than gold?
please leave, or seek treatment for you're retardation
>>76864263
>This wouldnt be an issue if it werent for places like Africa or India.
But those places exist.
>Gabriel Kron and Ronald Richter
Giive me a resume, please.
>>76864377
>Send them out to space
>let's send billions out to space
>mine from space instead
why?
Also it's not only mining that is fuckin up our ecosystems
>>76850637
Taiwan, ladies and gentlemen.
>>76867391
>Thorium, which is radioactive, and therefore causes a lot of pollution
Radioactivity is different than pollution. Also Th has a use, it just isnt advertised to the general public.
>>76868117
>let's send billions out to space
Yes. Using the spaceships we built from resources mined out of asteroids, we can send every nigger and shitskin to the moon, where they can establish a peaceful colony away from ours with their superior intellect and resourcefulness, right?
>>76868117
>Giive me a resume, please.
No, I gave you the names of two very influential scientists that anyone can research. Finding their unaltered papers though is a different matter entirely.
>>76864734
>want to keep and refine the metal in space.
>orbital foundries
>Build the space ship in space
And the resources to achieve this? Where would the money come from?
>H2O is the biggest thing we need in space
But why would we go to space to get water? We got a whole ocean of it. Still water isn't what we would go to space for.
>>76850348
shut up idiot
>>76851018
are you really this stupid?
>>76858515
kek, this lunatic faggot still thinks anyone cares what he thinks
filtered, faglord
>>76865069
>There is a secret space program meant to get us to parity with threats from beyond the Earth. It is like the Manhattan project in terms of scope and scale but instead of going on for merely two years it has been going on for over 60 now.
NASA?
>Yes, which can be easily extracted, moved or utilized if you have the power to do so.
You have no idea... How would the colonies be resuplied?
>There are richer families my bluepilled friend.
>muh rotschild
>>76862365
what is aircon?
>>76862881
>the supply matches demand.
how can you even pretend this makes any sense?
it clearly doesn't, because the price fluctuates
>>76849524
we haven't colonized earth yet
>>76868942
>NASA
Is a public consumption space program using public consumption physics and science. It does not represent the true scope of what is possible today.
>How would the colonies be resupplied?
Utilizing the delta shaped airframe we currently have in production. The larger models are used for transport of goods and people to and from various places.
>muh rotschild
At least spell it correctly you Portuguese heroin addict.
>>76868867
You replied, ence you care just a little bit m8
It's crazy that even though apparently half the board filtered me, i get each time more (You)
>>76866226
OMG, A FUCKING FOOTBALL FIELD??
>>76867051
>>76868482
ok, well it's toxic as well as radioactive
>>76853742
No stupid it's that the price of things made WITH platinum would drop that is important.
>>76869222
>Is a public consumption space program using public consumption physics and science. It does not represent the true scope of what is possible today.
Enlighten us
>delta shaped airframe
What is this?
>The larger models are used for transport of goods and people to and from various places.
Like?
because war fuels industry the moment we find Aliens somewhere in space you know well be colonizing the shit out of stuff.
>>76869357
Still, it will never be used for the salt reactors people are pushing for, we need it to for fuel for already existing reactors that utilize an isomer of Th.
>>76869438
>Enlighten us
I already have, if you have an understanding of Tensor Calculus and Quantum Chemistry go read about the scientists I mentioned earlier, oh wait, you want to be spoon fed.
>What is this?
What does it sound like?
>Like?
See above.
>>76869537
We have spent 60 years bringing ourselves to parity with threats from beyond Earth.
>>76865764
thank you for the info, I will check the article
I am sceptical about everything because there is so much bullshit going around
>>76869802
>We have spent 60 years bringing ourselves to parity with threats from beyond Earth.
Source?
>>76862493
Underrated
>>76869959
>Source
Since you wont read, hell most of this board wont do that, here is something that is more up your alley, namely someone breaking it down to the level of where a child can understand it.
https://youtu.be/6m6ZVVlCK-0
Fuck this board is dense.
>>76858932
All these infographs made with Ozymandias are made by literal autists
>>76869959
I feel like the few 10,000 nukes we have on this planet would suffice to at least scare off aliens.
I doubt we could actually win against a space-faring civilization on the simple account that we can't get off this rock.
>>76869438
>delta airframe
flying triangle essentially.
But an airfoil doesn't help you in space, where the shape of your vehicle is almost entirely unimportant.
>>76870119
>1 hour vid
>UFO in title
lol
>WHY WPN'T PEOPLE READ MY CONSPIRACY BOOKS WHYYYY!?!?!??! FUCKING STUPIDS!!! IF ONLY THEY WERE MORE LIKE ME!
>>76869269
why not?
>>76870149
Made by A autist, a old tripfag named Quentin. I just post this ironically to gather sme (You)
>>76849524
>space war not in our lifetime
>>76870257
>I dont understand quantum chemistry or tensor calculus, nor will I watch a video with someone explaining the concept of a secret space program
>Its all fake
You are retarded, if you have a background in science feel free to read the works of the two men I have already named, if not shut the fuck up. I have given you info from both end of the spectrum, one side is for the very dumb and the other is for people who have PhDs in math and physics.
Maybe you should better yourself instead of shooting up with your legal heroin daily?
>>76870213
>10,000 nukes we have on this planet
No one actually expl,oded a nuclear weapn in outer space, no?
>I doubt we could actually win against a space-faring civilization
Allow me to disaggre based on Independence Day. Americans will save us with their exceptionalism
>flying triangle essentially.
What as that got to do with space travelling? That is my question. I can google it.
