Russians never cease to make me smile.
ur mum said the same thing about me
>>76817495
Funny. It's the opposite for me.
>>76817662
You're a funny guy.
Russkies gonna conquer you last.
F
Looks like their tanks still have shit gun depression.
>>76817662
>Finns
>able to smile
>>76817802
They already tried that you know.
>>76818079
I think that Russian army today is a little more efficient than in 1939, after the purge of officers.
>>76818079
Finland exists only because of Russian Empire taking it in and protecting from Swedes, you know?
>>76818030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ovgDzkL78
>>76818331
>protecting
Thanks for today's smile.
>>76817495
RUSSIANS PUT THEIR UPPITY WOMEN IN THEIR PLACE
How does Russia afford such a good army? Their economy is shit, their per person GDP is like 14,000 dollars a year… yet they seem to maintain one of the top militaries (not even factoring the nuclear missiles)
>>76818331
How are you still here Ivan?
>>76818331
Finland has been fortunate. Russians have us autonomy and a state and when they started asking for it back we became independent. Then we successfully killed hundreds of thousands of Russian slavshits and stopped them from ruining this wonderful land. We lost some clay but soon the Russians will die of aids and alcoholism and we will make Finland great again by Perkele.
>>76818331
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_during_the_Great_Northern_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_%281741%E2%80%9343%29
>After the victory at Storkyro, Mikhail Golitsyn was appointed the governor of Finland. Finns began waging partisan warfare against the Russians. As retaliation, the Finnish peasants were forced to pay large contributions to the occupying Russians (as was the custom in that time). Plundering was widespread, especially in Ostrobothnia and in communities near the major roads. Churches were looted, Isokyrö was burned to the ground. A scorched earth zone several hundred kilometers wide was burned to hinder Swedish counteroffensives. At least 5,000 Finns were killed and some 10,000 taken away as slaves, of whom only a few thousand would ever return;[5] According to newer research the amount of those killed is closer to 20,000.[6] Thousands, especially officials, also fled to the (relative) safety of Sweden. The poorer peasants hid in the woods to avoid the ravages of the occupiers and their press-gangs.[7] Atrocities were at their worst between 1714–17 when the infamous Swedish Count Gustaf Otto Douglas, who had defected to the Russian side during the war, was in charge of the occupation.
>In addition to the predations of the Russian occupants, Finland was struck – as were most other Baltic countries at the time – by the plague. In Helsinki, 1,185 people died: nearly two thirds of the population. Plague had struck Finland already before the Russian invasion sapping the strength of Sweden in Finland.[7]
>>76818331
The hell? I though russia was banned from this site, Ivan.
>>76818448
THEIR ARMY IS THE MARKETING DIVISION FOR THEIR WEAPONS SALES
RUSSIA IS THE #2 ARMS DEALER IN THE WORLD, ITS PRACTICALLY THEIR ONLY REAL INDUSTRY AFTER OIL
>>76818474
Ungratefull swine. Well, least you get what you deserve - your country being sold out, your land, water, air not belonging to you and new owners using it to store nucklear waste of whoel world.
>>76818448
maybe genetic, they somehow always have good engineers and scientists
>>76817495
That webm is borderline pornography
>>76817495
so russians finally into proper gyro stabilized cannons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j45lrsHFLTE
>>76817560
If there were a 100 cocks straight in a line, how many would you choke on?
>>76818470
>>76818533
Fucking snitches, mind yr own nutsack
>>76818533
Temporary ban due to DDOS attack.
>>76818557
I'm grateful for the good times and grateful to my granddaddy and his generation for killings lots of russkies when the times were bad.
>>76818639
You are so behind times. It can also shoot laser guided missiles with its main cannon instead of normal shells, for double the range and precision.
>>76819060
Fair enougth.
>>76818331
Lol. Just like you liberated europe by raping and murdering white europeans
>>76818435
Because Russians are jews
>>76819097
>mfw I read that the t-90 can shoot ATGMs out of the barrel
>>76819132
Just pray we dont have to do that again.
>>76819113
How does it feel to have a jewish president? How does it feel to be a jewish bitch for over 150 years?
>>76819234
Good goy. Kill the evil white people. Your country is already getting blacked
>>76818407
During the Finnish War between Sweden and Russia, the four Estates of occupied Finland were assembled at the Diet of Porvoo on 29 March 1809 to pledge allegiance to Alexander I of Russia who in return guaranteed that the laws and liberties as well as religion would be left unchanged. Following the Swedish defeat in the war and the signing of the Treaty of Fredrikshamn on 17 September 1809, Finland became a true autonomous grand duchy within the autocratic Russian Empire although the usual balance of power between monarch and diet resting on taxation was not in place since the Emperor could rely on the rest of his vast Empire. The title "Grand Duke of Finland" was added to the long list of titles of the Russian Tsar.
The history of the Grand Duchy can briefly be characterised as:[2]
1809–1862: fifty years of consolidation, during which the Finnish authorities succeeded in convincing the Russian court not only of their own loyalty, but of that of all Finns.
1863–1898: thirty-five years of increased independence, including the re-establishment of the Diet of Finland and the elevation of Finnish from a language for the common people to a national language (1863) equal to Swedish (1883).
1899–1917: twenty years of attempted russification, ultimately unsuccessful and detrimental for Finland's relationship with the Russian Empire (and the Soviet Union that was formed shortly afterwards).
The constitutional status of Finland was not codified in Russian law before the February Manifesto of 1899. The autonomous status led Finns to develop their own ideas of nationalism and constitutional monarchy, which they could to a large extent implement in practice with the assent of the Tsar.
So it was cool. You were fostered and your national identity and liberty was preserved up to last tsar. What is your issue, Ake?
>>76819493
>Ake
>>76819060
Result - Soviet Victory + territory gains.
Also, before treaty of moscow - In February 1940, Finland's Commander-in-Chief marshal Mannerheim expressed his pessimism about the military situation, prompting the government to start peace negotiations on 29 February, the same day the Red Army commenced an attack against Viipuri (now Vyborg).
And who was Mannerheim, m? Mannerheim made a career in the Imperial Russian Army, rising to the rank of lieutenant general. He also had a prominent place in the ceremonies for Tsar Nicholas II's coronation and later had several private meetings with the Russian Tsar. After the Bolshevik revolution, Finland declared its independence but was soon embroiled in civil war between the pro-Bolshevik "Reds" and the "Whites," who were the troops of the Senate of Finland.
So he was pro-monarch fighter like Russian "whites" in our civil war.
Also his wife was Russian.
As other Russian poster said - you are ungrateful narrow-minded swine, that don't understand history.
>>76819493
Modern Russians claiming to have "protected" Finland is the same as you guys saying everything the USA and your other colonies have accomplished is thanks to the British rule hundreds of years ago. They're just not what they used to be anymore.
I didn't even need to write that though, you already had the answer in your post.
And I'm not a Swede so refer to me with some other name.
>>76819688
>Typical name?
>>76818079
>>76818256
Reminds me of a joke:
>Soviet-finnish war
>A big group of russian soldiers are patrolling the border
>A distant shout can be heard from the finnish border
>"1 finnish soldier is better than 10 ruskies"
>russian commander gets angry, sends his best 10 soldiers across the border
>guns starts blazing, but after 5min it's all quiet
>another shout "1 finnish soldier is better than 100 ruskies"
>russian commander raging, sends his best 100 troops across the border again
>15 minutes of bullets whistling and suddenly it's all quiet again
>another shout "1 finnish soldier is better than 1000 ruskies"
>russian commander on full steroid rage sends 1000 troops across the border again
>after a while massive explosions, artillery shelling and barrages, grenades flying in the sky and bullets whistling everywhere
>after one hour it's quiet again
>from across the border crawls back a seriously injured russian soldier saying in his last dying breath "don't send more man, it's an ambush, there's TWO of them !"
>>76819978
I am Russian mate, living in UK.
Agree times changed a lot, but Russians (as a nation, not as a regime of communists) really did a lot for Finland and we had mutually beneficial co-existence under crown. All I am curious about, if you differentiate Russians and commies?
>>76819935
>trying to teach me my own history
Literally why? I will blow you out of the water with my mad knowledge of Finnish history I'm not even joking m8.
>>76819989
If you were going for Åke, that's a typical Swedish name.
>>76817495
But did they hit their mark?
>>76820304
Shoot it. I love good debates. But so far what I have provided are simple facts without ambiguity.
On Ake point - alrightie, what is Finnish typical then?
Do not listen to this russian, it is inadequate.
>>76819935
>Result - Soviet Victory + territory gains.
With original intentions of capturing the entirety of Finland.
Even at the end of Continuation War, STAVKA was forced to abandon the plans of conquering Finland, when the Vyborg-Petrozadovsk offensive failed. It would have been far to costly to continue the attack and the race to Berlin required more attention. Originally the Soviet Union wanted an UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER from Finland, but ended up giving up on it and going with the peace treaty instead.
>>76820166
>really did a lot for Finland
Yeah, go ahead and name some.
>>76817662
well, you could just join NATO, Mr Fingolian.
>>76820166
I'm not going to take risks just because there are some good Russians in the mix just like I wouldn't take any risks with Arabs because there may be some that don't wish white genocide.
>>76820382
>On Ake point - alrightie, what is Finnish typical then?
People on /pol/ usually use Matti or Pekka.
>>76820382
That you have. I don't contest anything you've said. I'm simply wondering why you're telling me stuff I and pretty much every Finn knows... We learn this in school, you know.
As for names, google "most common finnish names" and you're set.
>>76820549
Of course. I'll vote to join when there's a referendum. Well, depending on the social climate, atleast. If we retain our conscript system, then I'm all in, but if joining NATO means getting rid of it, then I'll vote no.
>>76820455
The era of autonomy was good times for Finland you idiot. Only the last decade or so was shit because of russification, but then again it pushed us towards independence, so in hindsight may be it was necessary.
>>76817662
post more dogs
>>76819060
That's right, my friend. Finnish winter put a huge pile of russian Ivan's and showed that the Red Army is not able to fight. And now history has not fuck anyone, because the result of the 20th century became the standard of living in rashka and Finland.
>>76817495
Wow, firing while jumping. Just as useless/unrealistic in real combat situations like the Cobra maneuvers
>>76820166
Fuck off. You Russians are just assholes. Norwegians saved million of Russians from starvation in the 20s, have given hundreds of millions to you in aid over the past two decades, share our technical expertise with you and helped you decommission your old nuclear subs. And what do we get in return from you goddamn degenerate assholes? You keep treating us like shit, as if we were in the middle of the cold war, breaking trade agreements, spying on us, illegally crossing our borders and exploiting resources on our territory, and doing fake nuclear bombing runs against us. You people are the absolute scum of the earth, and you're a fucking disgrace to the white race.
I used to think it was communism that made you into such pathetic assholes, but it seems to be genetic.
>>76820729
It was good because Finland was autonomous and there was minimal interference from Russia.
>>76820923
It wasn't just Russians though. A great number of Ukrainians were sent to fight as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/44th_Rifle_Division_%28Soviet_Union%29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nPIeoeWmKk
>>76817495
They have really downgraded their game tho
>>76820607
That's exactly what I've done and Ake was there. Anyway, noted Matti / Pekka from here ->> >>76820570
Oh, you unironically compare Russians to Arabs from a mass judgement perspective?
>>76820455
You are correct regarding capturing of Finland. Communist government still thought of Russian empire clay as theirs. Finns didn't want it and fought for their indepdence, all fair enough. But what I meant is that Russian rule gave such degree of autonomy to you, that it forged your national identity. Grand Duchy of Finland was predecessor state to modern Finland. Also, for example, Russian rulers did not require military service from Finland - operations and defence were mostly taken care by Russian troops based in the Grand Duchy. All your senate was Finnish and up to 1899 Russia effectively kept you as separate country under its wing. Offering good time for you guys to develop.
>>76818256
Not really
They might be able to conquer some land like in 39, but their army is not mobilized enough to be able to actually occupy entire Finland
Russia is at a geographical disadvantage here.
The Finnish border is mostly just a wooden wasteland without any strategic assets for Russians to use, except for probably St. Peterburg.
US would probably show up in time and bitchslap them back to 1940's borders
>>76818448
> what are relative living costs and salaries
>>76821171
I dump my russia folder
>>76820923
Aren't you Russian Ivan yourself? Why so self-hating?
>>76818377
I don't know what he's saying in his sami language but, didn't he open the door himself. So why is he surprised
>>76821043
>I used to think it was communism that made you into such pathetic assholes, but it seems to be genetic.
THIS.
>>76821238
syria
>>76817662
God be with ye
test
>>76821171
Why is this allowed?
>>76821210
>Oh, you unironically compare Russians to Arabs from a mass judgement perspective?
Based on my personal experiences with Russians I am not wrong when doing that comparison.
>>76821333
not sure where this is tho
>>76821171
THRUST MOTHERFUCKING VECTORING
>>76821238
SHUTTER SPEED KEK
>>76821370
maybe to troll americans
>>76821413
good ol putin
>>76821527
this thing is crazy
Hello buddies
>>76821210
>But what I meant is that Russian rule gave such degree of autonomy to you, that it forged your national identity.
True. It allowed Finland to build a national identity, which in the end caused the pan-slavicists and communists' plans to fail.
>Also, for example, Russian rulers did not require military service from Finland
Lies. They didn't require an amount even comparable to the one required by the Swedes, but still.
>The military of Finland during the period of autonomy within Russia was established by an imperial order on 18 September 1812 by Alexander I of Russia, which became the anniversary of the battalion. Based on the imperial order, Finland had to form three rifle units, consisting each of two battalions of 600 men, totaling 3600 men
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Guards'_Rifle_Battalion
>>76821375
So have you ever met Arabs or Russians in Behind-God's-Back-Town in Middle-of-Nowhere?
>>76821527
>Even asians are taller than Putin
Holy shit, just how short is Putin?
>>76821666
No. Just some that have come to Finland.
>>76821555
>tfw only prototype was built
>>76820660
NATO will never protect ur shitty clay LMFAO, have fun living in denial
>>76818522
kill them all Finland, u need monies?
>>76818474
Why do you hate Russia so much? You have a border with Karelia and they are OK with Finns.
>>76821826
I hate Americans much more than I hate Russians. I don't even hate Russians, what the fuck. Stupid Yank.
>>76821043
What, motherfucker? We don't have anything to do with Norway and historical links were minimal. Google returns nothing about your shit. Proofs to thread about (a) your technical expertise (b) save from starvation. If subs were decomissioned you were paid, so that is business and can't be claimed as good-doing, so stfu on that one (but proofs would be good). What cold war with norway? Majority of Russian don't even think of your existence and don't know we share border on far north. What I know though - a 2013 article in Dagbladet said that the autumn of 1951 removal of more than 8000 Soviet corpses from graves in North Norway, Operation Asphalt, led to "the toughest diplomatic conflict ever between Norway and Soviet.
Now on your claims:
1) Treating like shit - you fucked in the head, right? We don't care about Norway and general perception is that your are rich developed country where it is equally cold.
2) Breaking trade agreements - which? when? impact in quantifiable manner?
3) Spying on us - everyone spies on everyone. Welcome to real world. US spies on Germany for example doesn't mean it is terrible "genocide" thing you are to trying to blow it out of proportion
3) Illegally crossing border - when? who? how many? never heard of Russian exodus/war with you.
4) Exploiting resource - are you talking about svalbard? It is abandoned and only Lenin silently watches from hill.
5) Fake nuclear bombings - you mean flights of strategic aviation in neutral zones in accordance with international law? Well if we wouldn't have so many NATO bases next to our border we would be relaxed. Norway is close to other countries you know. This is demonstration of power to NATO which is absolutely fine so that they understand whom they are scaremongering against.
Chill there and fish some salmon.
>>76821791
>NATO will just abandon it's core article and the main reason it still exists
Wew, lad.
>>76821774
Not sure what this is
>>76821527
was he busting he's pants?
>>76821774
ITS LIKE A VIDEO GAME SPEEDRUN IRL
>>76821375
Fine, being determines consciousness.
>>76821413
kek'd hard
>>76821920
It was irrelevant
Maybe this one
>>76819132
What's wrong with rape and murder? Stop being a pussy
>>76820009
Always makes me kek.
>>76821756
Well, Finns in St. Pete are getting hammered in a blink of an eye and are indistinguishable from drunk Russians in Helsinki. I just don't judge people by tourists. You need to visit people's land to see them.
>>76820660
Yeah we really need to fight foreign wars for kikes and help niggers flood into Europe
>>76821637
>True. It allowed Finland to build a national identity, which in the end caused the pan-slavicists and communists' plans to fail.
Not only allowed but actively promoted Finnish national culture. The golden age of finnish art, karelianism, kalevala, etc was during the Russian period. Of course it changed completely in the 1900's.
>>76821774
its like you have only kerosin for 30 min but still 5 trucks to be loaded
>>76822185
I don't dislike Russians because I've seen a couple drunk Russians. It's because they steal everything they can fit in their vans.
>>76821774
>hurryivanwemisssupplyrun.webm
>ivan
It's 'murrica.
>>76819132
Germans were never white.
>>76822239
Too bad that's not how NATO works. If another NATO country is attacked, each nation is required to send help to the country to return it to peace and end the war. It doesn't require us to send troops into USA's monetary crusades in the Middle-East (which we are already doing, despite not being in NATO).
In my opinion, we should get rid of the EU and join NATO. This would allow us to secure the existence, safety and peace of our Finland.
>>76822257
It didn't exactly promote it though. It simply allowed Finland autonomy, our own money, postal service, official language and so forth. It was only natural that our national identity would develop and flourish under those circumstances and whichever Tsar was responsible for allowing it was a friend of Finland.
>>76817662
>Finns
>Mongol Rape Babies.
>>76821868
>hating freedom
Would enter strategic alliance with Russia to be quite honest with you fellas. NATOcucks are fucking annoying.
>>76822697
No, you retard. The meme is that we ARE Mongols. Mongols never reached Finland.
What happened? I miss everything again?
>>76822907
Russia should join NATO, to be honest.
>>76822999
Local Aboo kicked us form here for a day.
>>76822664
They actively supported people like Topelius, Runeberg, Lönnrot who were creating a Finnish national culture separate from Sweden. The Tsars established and funded scientific and literary societies. Russian officials promoted the Finnish language.
>>76823011
NATO is a decrepit alliance that is beyond useless and at this point simply a front for the USA to sell 2nd hand humvees to retards.
>>76823113
Sorsaa.
>>76823028
But I post from the phone tonight.
>>76823011
translate pic please
all i understand is optimist and karelija
>>76817495
I thought Russians had shitty everything
>>76821774
wow.
That was absolutely bad ass.
Based Russians. Fuck our Government and it's export sanctions on you lot.
>>76823199
true story. know your history.
>>76823272
An optimist: at least it's hard to miss.
>>76823393
They do this entire thread is propaganda
>>76823272
An optimist on the Karelian Isthmus:
Well... Atleast it's hard to miss...
>>76823590
Can't remember it being in the history books. Post source.
>>76823393
they do
This is now a "Superior American tech" thread
>>76823876
>"Superior American tech"
>Posts memeplane
>>76823985
Go back to Anatolia, Turkroach
>>76823652
just from a quick google:
https://www.jyu.fi/ajankohtaista/arkisto/2014/06/tiedote-2014-06-03-09-09-18-364418
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_Tiedeseura
http://www.finnica.fi/luennot/99syys/nygard.htm#autonomia
"Maan omat kansalliset laitokset ja poliittiset symbolit kehittyivät autonomisen hallinnon aikana venäläisten suosiessa kehitystä."
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_kielipolitiikka#Suomen_suuriruhtinaskunta
"Venäjän hallitsijat kuitenkin puolsivat suomen kielen asemaa, koska katsoivat aseman vahvistamisen maassa heikentävän maan siteitä entiseen emämaahansa Ruotsiin. Esimerkiksi keisari Aleksanteri I:n Porvoon valtiopäivillä antama hallitsijavakuutus julkaistiin sekä suomeksi että ruotsiksi."
You get the idea.
>>76817802
Bunch of idiots totally miss the quote ....
>>76824073
>Go back to Anatolia, Turkroach
>Turkroaches are actually part of the active development team of Fat35
>>76824262
And your poor army will never ever have it because you bought some shitty subs
>>76821751
Japs are tall, chinks are small ya tit
>>76824424
>We will not have an overpriced good-for-nothing carrier aircraft
Oh noes
>>76817495
le epic badass russians!
>>76824498
You have no idea what the F-35 is, you dumb Greekroach
RUSSIA IS SHIT, ALL RUSSIANS ARE LIVING IN SHIT, GET ON WITH IT! STOP THIS PRO_RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA YOU ALL FUCKING KREMLIN BOTS I HATE YOU I HATE MYSELF I HATE THIS COUNTRY I HATE THIS BOARD FUCK YOU!
>>76824698
It is the laughing stock of aviation
>>76824847
>retards without even minimal knowledge on a subject pretend to be armchair experts
>>76820009
Have a (you) since you typed that out yourself.
>>76824902
>pentagon cancelled the decommissioning of A-10s because F-35 was to shitty to even fill the role of an Attack Aircraft
>fun fact
>I am not even joking
>>76820009
Nice one
>>76825069
The planes do not fill the same role, you mouthbreathing Turkish fucktard. I'm not even going to try to have a civil argument with someone as worthlessly ignorant as you.
>>76824902
>>76824847
Dunnin-Kruger effect
I bet he think Pierre Sprey is a legitimate critic
>>76825069
>A-10
>good attack aircraft
pick one
>not an expensive COIN-aircraft nowadays
>>76825212
>>76825603
Whatever m8
Our fleet is composed of F16 which by the have whooped F35s ass on the trials time and time again
GD announced a program for upgrading F16s on top of that
Enjoy getting jew'd by Lockheed
>>76825819
The difference is, you'll see a change in the way aerial combat functions, it is not about how hard you can turn or how fast you can speed away, as SAM and air to air missiles can always out run and out turn any fighter. The F-35 is a stepping stone in aircraft technology cementing the ability to avoid being locked on in the first place.
>>76821171
>>76821413
>not wearing helmets
Absolute madmen.
>>76826648
Thats Greek Miragges tho
>>76826262
>F-35 is a stepping stone in aircraft technology cementing the ability to avoid being locked on in the first place.
One tiny step for stealth and one humongous money-pit contract for the military-industrial complex.
>>76824498
HEy! Althought you were right with the turkroach 35, the turkroach carrier is Spanish made, so it is good, beautiful & cheap.
Ask the ausies
>>76827229
I concede that it is a money-pit, yet it is a step that needs to be taken if western countries want to remain 'ahead'.
That's only because you never have to meet a crowd of them in person.
>>76827444
But we will never ever ever ever have a conventional war again. It's only proxy wars with durkas and every 20 years we will dump all our bombs on them to clear stock. After they are bombed to the stone age we will become politicall correct again and open our anuses to their young to breed our women.
Repeat till entire world is brown.
>>76827621
Well, hopefully I'll be dead by then.
>>76820660
>soldiers' name is literally JAM
>>76818533
Gookmoot lifted the ban, even welcomed them back.
>>76827802
Järvi.
>>76825212
the F35 doesn't fit ANY role.
It's a multi-role piece of shit that can't actually do ANY of it's assigned roles.
>>76825643
>thinking the BRRRRT isn't a solid attack aircraft.
>>76818580
>they somehow always have good engineers and scientists
Maybe compared to your third world shithole lol.
>>76827272
The way I see it F35 is good only for carrier based aircraft so far
That should narrow down buyers to carrier owners, meaning Norway and Durkghay have been rused
>>76821527
kek
>>76819060
You are OK, just don't us the buzzword slavshit.
t. slav(shit)
>>76825212
Holy shit is this from the mumins?
>>76817802
funny how?
>>76821238
lost
>>76819198
Almost all modern tanks can. That's been a thing since the 60's
>>76821238
YOU SEE IVAN, OUR HELICOPTERS WILL DO WHAT WE NAME THEM TO, IF IT IS KROKODIL, THEN IT SWIM, NO NEED TO SPIN.
>>76821774
kek thats some Gta side mission shit
