Well, /pol/?
>>76813050
No we were explorers and the Indians died because they didn't have immunities to 90% of human viruses and bacteria
And we took their land, destroyed their culture, massacred their men, raped their women and forced our religion onto them.
Hmm.. really makes you think
>Australia
>>76813050
But white people can't be refugees don't you know. You can't be a refugee if you have privilege.
>>76813050
Not really. Europeans were conquerors, like everyone else at the time, just better at it.
>>76813050
Hmmmmm... Really makes you think.......
maybe true, seeing as i descend from mormon pioneers.
my people got kicked out of so many places until they said "fuck it", let's go to a remote desert wasteland away from the rest of civilization.
>>76813050
>>76813050
no, we were conquerers.
>>76813213
The first colonists literally would have died if Native's didn't lend a hand. We shouldn't have helped you faggots.
we came here and killed you off. that's how the world works. i don't see you all crying about the other 60000 times that has happened in history. its the circle of life get over it and stop playing the my great great great great grandfather got shit on so give me money. no one else who loses gets reparations decades later.
>>76813050
No, they were colonizers.
>>76813050
and look what the fuck happened to you for letting us in, fucktard.
>>76813050
Ya and we don't want to end up like the retarded,conquered, natives.
Sage
my people were racoon warriors.
Yes and we slaughtered the fuck out of you and you never recovered
>>76813279
Great, you make a good point as to why we shouldn't help these filthy pakis and "syrians". Thanks anon
>>76813050
They are faggots who came from east asia and they killed the real native Americans.... They all should be hanged
>>76813050
And look how well that turned out for the native population
>>76813050
>refugees
We were Explorers, Frontier Men's, and Conquers.
We Located this rich unsettled land. We braved the borders facing death and sickness and starvation and hostile attack. We created a Nation and cultivated a culture.
America is 100% earned bought and paid for.
Prairie niggers are almost entirely degenerate scum drinking themselves to death.
>>76813050
How did that work out for you?
Mom's side was Polish immigrants in the 1800s, not refugees of any kind, just people looking for new work. They took up jobs as miners and farm owners.
>>76813279
Some natives tried to help colonists and explorers when they first landed in foreign lands and others killed them and ate them. Stop looking for some universal black and white narrative. The only thing that holds true throughout history is that the fittest tribe, species, etc. will survive.
>>76813168
Might makes right.
>>76813050
>WELL, UH, IF YOU GO BACK ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED YEARS, EVERYONE WAS A REFUGE-
Fuck off. No one from back then is even alive anymore to contest it.
>>76813168
SPBP
>>76813555
Okay nice birth rates whitey.
>the success of the European colonization in North America is due entirely to witch-burning bible thumpers
Nice meme.
>>76813555
Huh...
>>76813168
No, you were just prisoners sent to a giant island
>>76813555
This.
When one half of the natives want to help, but the other half wants to kill you and scalp you, there's only one appropriate response.
>>76813709
Technically the same thing happened to the natives there, too.
>>76813709
Speak english Jòse
>>76813050
I'd hate for history to repeat itself.
Build the wall.
natives
>>76813050
Yeah... but let's not forget...
Natives are still fucking savages.
They need to be told not to drink fucking Hand Sanitizer, Mouthwash, Isopropyl...
Fucking straight retardation.
So the Native is telling me that I ought to scalp and kill all the invaders presently streaming into my country, to do the very thing he and his people failed to do. Great advice, Injun
>>76813050
No. I built my own goddamn house, brought agriculture to the land, and didn't live on welfare you faggot aussie.
>>76813050
I normally don't take this kind of shit from people, and I argue my points about how its not all the same narrative, how my country's history was complex and how its not so simple to interpret.
But, since you are an Australian, you clearly have the moral upper hand over me on this issue. There is just nothing I can do to defend my country's history, especially juxtaposed against the noble, highly postmodern history of a country like Australia.
You really won this one OP. Bring the 3rd worlders in guise. OP has beaten us, and we need to drop this bigotry of not wanting to be a fleshpit caliphate.
>>76813279
But they did die, even with help. Many times that help came in the form of the people abandoning the settlement to live within the tribe. Eventually they got better at settling and fighting off the tribes that weren't amicable and then we achieved a balance of deaths to births.
The difference between American Settlers and Economic Migrants is a welfare net.
Even Indians aka eskimos immigrated across the Bering Strait. Get rekt.
>>76813834
Plus the whole "noble savage" bit is a load of horseshit.
The Comanche were fucking insanely barbaric. There were reports and stories of how they took white women after viciously slaughtering homesteads. These women were raped over and over and had their noses cut off.
This came to light after the savages tried to offer one of our mutaliated women back during a peace treaty. We ended up holding their "peace party" captive and executing them after raiding their village and finding a dozen more maimed and raped women.
The Comanches were incredibly violent and in combat would fight to the death without exception. Not just for honor but because it was a well known fact if you were taken alive you would be skinned alive and burned slowly over an open fire for hours.
Indians did NOT fuck around.
>>76813911
Congrats, you're still an alt-right faggot. KYS.
>>76813050
No, settlers.
>>76813279
The first British colonists. There were other colonists bro.
My family fought the Americans with a tribe we were bound to and intermarried with. But the Americans won (obviously) and we've been American for centuries.
I'm just saying, its a really complex thing. And is tragic now, because we're all so cucked and also because it was a shitty time for you bros.
>>76813050
give back the beads first
Why do people always assume being anti immigration is some kind of moral decision.
Usually it's motivated by a desire to preserve ones way of life.
>>76813168
nice proxy faggot
>>76813050
We came for goddamn tobacco and gold.
Only the fucking pilgrims came for religious freedom, and everyone hated them.
FUCK GODDAMN PILGRIM SHIT.
Indians didn't band together when they were numerically superior. If anything this is an argument FOR anti-immigrant sentiments.
>>76813279
>holding grudges over things other people did
>using the word "we" to include yourself and all of your "brothers" as if any of you had any involvement at all in what happened in the past
fuck off, it's people like you that continue to make the world shit
>>76814196
Honestly, if we had met them in battle with blades, we most likely we would have lost.
They were fucking amazing carvers.
Think Japanese blade martial arts... Now take all the woo and magic away from it. Straight Bruce Lee blade technique. Kill and kill fast.
>>76813050
They were colonists, not refugees you illiterate fuck.
>>76813050
No we came as conquerors. French settlers openly came for trade reasons.
>>76813050
They were far less tolerant of Europeans than Europeans are of Muslims and look where they ended up.
>>76813168
I don't get it. Do they want more genocidal refugees or not?
No we were not, we literally pulled our own land out of the sea clay. Now fuck off blackies.
>>76813050
>refugees
kek they were on a an expedition conquering you fags
>>76813116
Stop repeating this meme. It was only true for the eastern tribes. The West was still largely inhabited by the mid 19th century.
Why do people bring this up constantly?
I never see what point they are trying to prove.
Well that's a pretty damn good example as to why we shouldn't let refugees in. You know since the Indians are all dead now because of it.
Your point? You want to repeat that massive genocide?
>>76814725
Its not a meme you fucking retard..They were quarantined by an ocean and no colonies in the old world were exterminated
>>76813050
Does America have a refugee crisis? EUROPE has a refugee crisis, wtf do American Indians have to do with it? That picture triggered me more than it should.
>>76814748
>You white bois are not true Americans
>See how you were invited in with welcome arms and how you eradicated the local population....
The moment the thought process begins the liberals move onto something else to avoid critical thinking.
private property is false. And you don't own any land, everyone owns it
>>76814725
Also quit trying to blame my people for the largest plague in human history, we're starting to get pissed off
>>76813050
No, we were conquerers.
Learn your place, savage.
i'm pretty sure the us didn't have great border security or a governing body when the pilgrims came over
>>76813050
Native Americans came from Siberia, and killed all the native American horses, camels etc
If you're a vegetarian you'll agree that killing them was the only choice to save animals
>>76813050
So?
It's the left that made the word "refugee" a pejorative.
>>76813050
perhaps
but this is our land now
speak english, and immigrate legally or GTFO
>>76813279
Kill or be killed, Redcorn.
>>76813681
>libs arguing against refugees
>>76813050
lolno
Most of them were fortune seekers and businessmen.
>>76815171
>your land
>imaginary borders
you own nothing, everyone owns it. No person is "illegal immigrant"
>>76815484
So you would be okay if 400,000 Somalis showed up in Finland by the end of the year? Everybody is for open borders when it's not their own borders.
>>76813050
>summerfaggs falling for obvious Australia shitpost
Imigrants ruin everything even 4chan.
>>76815646
yeah, I would be down with them showing up
I'm pro refugees, no person is illegal
Injuns should fuck off back to Central Asia.
Post qt native murrican women
>>76814725
Most studies suggest they actually had around a 90% mortality and their civilizations collapsed before we reached them.
>>76814196
no shit, extreme measures are needed when your land is being enroached on
>>76815030
American Indians - that is those who reside within the USA 48-state borders are racially different than their Inuit cousins in Alaska and Canada and Central and South American natives.
Different that there of Eurasian admixture possessing R1b DNA.
That is not even taken into account the Soultrean theory.
Also the reason why there are not that much of our Indians yet is they were bleached out.
>>76813050
If the Native Americans had a more aggressive immigration policy, they wouldn't have lost their country to a foreign horde of migrants.
>>76813050
Why does this go over the head of every liberal faggot posting this shit?
Yes, Europeans were refugees, and look what happened to the native americans when refugees with no respect for their culture or society started pouring in from their trouble homeland.
The point of anti-refugee people is to NOT BE THE NATIVE AMERICANS.
>>76815987
Fucking kek I actually laughed at this. Maybe faggots should have had a better border policy.
>>76813050
>refugees
no they were people looking to create a better life for themselves and their people, and were willing to do whatever it took to achieve it
literally conquered AND modernized your outdated asses
man made evolution
refugees are people who came from a place that they failed to maintain and so they abandon it and beg for refuge in a place that has already established its dominance to survive, and then they either get BTFO when things turn to shit, or they ruin their new environment by acting the same way they did where they came from
>>76813050
>refugees
>confusing invasion with immigration
>>76814574
Don't be an idiot leaf.
Wouldn't have turned out well for them that way either.
>>76813050
>>76813050
Refugees who fought tooth and nail to make the land their own, then set up the governments and systems that formed nations. Refugees are welcome to try.
There was nothing but squabbling tribes before western colonies. There was no United States.
>>76814574
>Honestly, if we had met them in battle with blades, we most likely we would have lost.
>if we disregard the technology that allowed us to conquer the world we might have lost
Niggers say this shit when they get shot 'bitch ass coppa couldnt even 1v1 with fists'
>>76813050
actually yes the american immigrants were usually as much refugees as the people moving to europe these days.
Meaning they are looking to get easier lives often at the cost of the people already living on the land they are moving to.
>>76814574
You sound like that faggot from YouTube who says he can kill someone with a gun from 21 feet with his knife.
>>76813811
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM FUCKING MEXICAN WHY DOES THIS BOTHER ME!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>76816710
Only if you don't want to live in Mexico
>>76813050
They lost. Got fkin rekt m8. Nothin else matters.
>>76813651
>native thinks his people will survive once the whites are gone
Do you honestly think Paco, Tyrone, Chang and Muhammad give a shit about feeding your dead race welfare and keeping the reservations protected?
That's the point, everyone knows how this goes so why be stupid and let them in?
>>76813231
As a Metis I can relate oh so well. Fucking libtards act like they know who I am. And like I'm on their side
WOW REALLY MAKES YOU THINK HUH????
>>76819547
There is no way there were 100 million natives living here at the time.
Its just, old.
I'm not even sure there were that many slaves, I think that's bullshit too. I know there weren't 5 million in the colonies/states.
>>76813050
>only applies to the America's & your shithole desert island.
EUROPE doesn't need sand niggers niggers & trash RUINING IT
Why don't you go buy a gun you poofta, oh wait you can't
>>76819991
Even if, it wasn't nearly enough.
>>76819991
It's just a dumb cry baby bullshit. She might be hot but she's retarded for believing this.
Native Americans weren't always peaceful. Different tribes fought each other just lIke different European countries did.
>>76820384
I was tempted to comment that under her pic.
>>76813050
why do libruls use this as a defence?
>immigrants pour in
>literally genocide their race and annihilate their culture
>>76816150
When wars were fought with swords and bows europeans failed to conquer even Arabs, no matter how many knights they sent.
I'm fucking Hawaiian. I like to say that Iolani Palace in downtown Honolulu is a sterling fucking example of what happens when a country allows its population to be demographically replaced and its economy to be owned by outsiders.
In short your country isn't yours anymore.
While I'd rather the Kingdom had preserved itself, the USA hasn't been too bad of a colonial master until recently.
tldr;
The Native Americans and Hawaiians are object lessons of a fate to be avoided. Not some stupid bullshit to look forward to. I bet the shitlibs think that they're going into some golden future. Tell you what, I put my money on the rednecks holding out while the brown masses cook the SJWs on open flames.
>>76813168
The give your land back to the abus if you feel bad
>>76819547
>Those numbers
>>76813050
no, sure they fled from prosecution and squalor, but they didn't seek refuge at the native americans, they simply came, saw and conquered. Not refugees, forceful migrants, might makes right.
>>76813050
No, we were conquerors.
>>76813050
No, we were conquistadores
>>76813050
>Because your ancestors came here on a boat 300-400 years ago, you must let a bunch of foreigners into your country at the expense of your own people
>>76813050
Yep and look at what happened to your people
>>76814420
why would he need a proxy
>>76813811
This is because blacks abort their kids. The growing hispanic is just immigrants.
>>76813050
It was bad then, I guess it is good now.
>>76813050
No.
This is spanish history
>First we wuz krauts
>That means we wuz stupid as fuck
>So moros came and took it all
>That point, holed up in a shithole mountains we realized krauts are not human, the rest of the yuropeans are subhuman pussies
>So we win the world's most massive shitstop
>Kick moors out with fire
>Out-jew the jew out
>Find america and fuck our way to colonies
>Then lose because we're bad at aiming
>>76813050
When it comes to my ancestors it was probably before Jesus was born.
>>76820488
This.
We btfo the mayans/incans/etc... because everyone fucking said "fuck yeah, fuck our sacrifice people religion, we catholics now, let's kill the bad guy around, thanks you based conquistador".
>no immigration laws
>get blown the fuck out
They were asking for it.
>>76813355
This thread ended here.
>>76813050
>weren't you refugees, too
but i thought the founding pilgrims weren't welcome in the first place and refugees are clearly welcome
nice job on the doublethink you dingo fucking idiot
>b-but we're a nation of immigrants
We're a nation of citizens. Libtards BTFO
>>76813050
>refugees are the same as colonists and immigrants
lmao
>>76813213
The children of Irish Italian and German immigrants make up over 2/3 of the u.s American population. You don't know shit about your country
>>76813050
that worked out for you
>>76813050
No. Most were settlers. Anyway these American Indian memes are self defeating - they're always posted by libtards who think they're smart but don't realise the message of pointing to what happened to the aboriginal inhabitants of North America is a caution AGAINST immigration.
>>76813050
colonists, not refugees. the colonists didn't move into cities and take advantage of the social benefits that the people living there had worked to create. the colonists went into the wilderness and set up societies from scratch.
it's not even close to being the same thing.
>>76828815
>>76828815
Also colonists weren't fleeing any war at all, they went to make a better life, that's fucking it.
No wars no shit. There might be fortune in this VERYFUCKINGFARAWAYLAND so I'm going there and settling in, making society from scratch with my buddies.
>>76828632
>these indian memes are self defeating
>posts no explanation why just says they're dumb
world class arguments right there.
>>76828971
>just said that they we're settlers in the first few words.
Oh well, why am I expecting non-whites to be able to read...
No. No no no and no. My german ancestor moved here legit.
No. I was born here. So were my parents and grandparents. Now go drink some listerine
>>76828971
>no explanation
One shouldn't be necessary when the gist of the meme is
>we should let in refugees, look at these people who were nearly driven to extinction when they let in refugees
But of course nobody ever accused the Spanish of being smart.
>>76828971
CYBER
VOLUNTARIOOOO
>>76813050
This just shows that too many refugees result in genocide.
That's actually an anti refugee argument you Australian pleb.
ENJOY LEARNING SPANISH GRINGOS
Reconquista is coming!
Its coiming across the border and cumming in white women's mouth and there isn't shit you can do about it you effeminate white fukbois.
We're gonna keep fucking your women and then we're going to fuck you white faggots up the ass.
>>76813050
No. There was a 160 year gap between the founding of Jamestown and the revolutionary war. The people who fought against the British were American born citizens.
>>76813050
>refugees
>not conquerors
>>76813168
Almost first post best post. Still best post though. Floridafag got your back aussiebro.
>>76813050
no, they were colonists
>>76813050
The Spanish are down the hall kimosabe
>>76813050
Nope, my people came here from scotland after a split in their clan, they werent refugees
>>76813050
I don't get why liberals keep parroting this.
History repeats, right? So why should we keep letting in refugees unchecked an uncapped? We'd be just like those dead Indians.
Different between a refugee and a colonist.
A refugee needs gibsmedat.
A colonist doesn't.
