Okay Trumpsters,
You hate illegal immigration, but it is ultimately a boost to the economy. The labor they do is crap lazy Americans won't do. Plus Americans have no chance of living decently off of the wages they get, and the prices of goods go down because of the cheap labor. Because of this, it is really better for Americans.
Can't chill the Hill.
>>76795727
Hillary wants to ban all guns, so i must vote Trump.
>>76795727
Delete your account.
>>76796020
> defending Trump because "muh guns"
> posts comic of fascist, the kind of leader that gun rights are supposed to protect against
>>76795727
My taxes go up because I have to pay for Juan's healthcare, schooling, and welfare check
Fuck off nigger
>>76796101
I get the reference, but it doesn't work as well on 4chan.
>>76796191
But they pay into taxes too.
Plus, it's the tax dodging rich that are really hurting America.
>>76795727
Fuck you you lying cunt.
Illegal immigration is not anything like a boost to anything but crime rates
we didn't even need the legal immigration liberal dumped on us.. so just KILL YOURSELF NOW YOU STEAMING STINKING PIECE OF SHIT!
>>76795727
>Guys, think of all the money we could make if we just ignored the law
Why not just go rob banks?
>>76796247
>>76795727
In other words, the Democrats are saying that the economy will suffer unless we let them use a brown slave caste to pick their crops?
Where have I heard that before?
>>76796320
>tax dodging rich
What the fuck are you talking about? Somebody paying the minimal amount required of them is not "tax dodging."
>>76796436
But you guys on here are racists, so shouldn't that be up your alley?
>>76795727
I would be fine with illegals if they were found and neutered when they enter the country.
Who do I vote for?
They do labor americans won't do for 4.50 an hour. Companies and workers don't pay tax on under the table cash transactions, and because they circumvent minimum wage jobs, refuse to hire Americans who can make more for low education labor
>>76796532
No one here is actually racist you retarded nigger, it's all just ironic shitposting.
>>76795727
Oh boy I sure do love me some slave labor! I'm a #cuck4clinton now!
>>76796494
http://www.barrons.com/articles/warren-buffetts-nifty-tax-loophole-1428726092
>>76795727
> Can't chill the Hill.
What kind of shitty catchphrase is that? Like it was made up by a 28 year old with a bag of Dorritos stuck up his ass.
Kill yourself, shill.
>>76795727
Fake and gay.
We'll take those jobs, and yours.
OUT OUT OUT.
>>76796631
Suuure it is, and that is why you support Trump.
>>76796320
What taxes do illegals pay? Fucking sales tax?
>>76795727
>>76795727
>>76796532
>>76796631
No, we're racialists. Wanting whats best for your own race and people, and acknowledging differences between races, hell, even viewing some races as inferior, is not the same thing as blind prejudice. Its why most of /pol/ approves of based black men like Sowell and Carson.
Learn the culture and lurk more you shithead.
>>76795727
>we need illegals to do shit jobs for less or else the economy will colapse
>All people deserve 15/hr
choose one
>>76796721
>she thinks trumposting is serious too
You're adorable, but lurk a little more, honey.
Supporting illegal immigration is literally supporting the exploitation of workers.
OP is either troll or pretty much the worst Hillary supporter ever.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-donor-sensitive-intelligence-board/story?id=39710624
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/10/how_clinton_donor_rajiv_fernando_got_a_job_as_a_nuclear_expert_he_wasn_t.html?wpisrc=burger_bar
>>76796703
>>76796703
>>76796703
Hello, fellow 4channers!
>>76796867
So do you not actually want Trump?
>>76796191
Illegals don't get welfare. Their tax burden comes from using public ultiies like roads.
Considering that they are grossly underpaid for labour, you're actually leeching off them.
Illegal immigrants pay taxes and don't get social security. They are great for economy.
Can't chill the hill homie
>>76796436
>Democrat
Isn't that what democrats have always been like?
"They ultimately help the economy" b.s. You really don't see beyond your basement walls do you faggot?
>>76797115
Obviously. Everyone here #FeelstheBern
>>76795727
>Okay Trumpsters,
Not a trumpcuck but I'll answer you anyways.
>You hate illegal immigration,
I hate all non-White immigration.
>but it is ultimately a boost to the economy.
No, it's not. Even if it was, what good is a boost to the economy if its at the expense of the White race?
> The labor they do is crap lazy Americans won't do
That's because of the culture being warped.
>Plus Americans have no chance of living decently off of the wages they get,
That's due to the economy and the culture being warped.
> and the prices of goods go down because of the cheap labor
Again, at the expense of the people.
>Because of this, it is really better for Americans.
In the meantime the White race is continuing to be destroyed.
>Can't chill the Hill.
She's an anti-White Zionist contributing to White genocide.
>>76796152
>> defending Trump because "muh guns"
She wants to disarm the people so that the government has a monopoly on force.
>> posts comic of fascist, the kind of leader that gun rights are supposed to protect against
There is literally nothing wrong with fascism.
>>76796320
>But they pay into taxes too.
How do you know? They're illegal. As in "off the books". Not to mention all the government benefits they leech from actual citizens.
>Plus, it's the tax dodging rich that are really hurting America.
Nope, it's the destructive, anti-White policies that are hurting the White race.
>>76796532
>But you guys on here are racists, so shouldn't that be up your alley?
There is literally nothing wrong with being racist.
You leftists are racist against Whites but you think that's acceptable.
>>76797115
>So do you not actually want Trump?
I want this zionist occupied country to collapse so we can form a White-only, fascist nation from the ashes.
>>76795727
cut welfare off for illegals and let them survive on their own
>>76795727
How the fuck would illegal immigrants help the economy? The bullshit you just espoused is absolute fantasy. They can perform simple tasks that anyone can do. Cool. I can get a 16 year old to do the same shit.
With illegal immigration comes crime and if you think that crime makes the economy better, then why doesn't the government legalize all crime?
Mexicans also have an IQ of 87 and we are going to let them produce offspring with our white children. Let that sink in.
>>76796152
>> posts comic of fascist, the kind of leader that gun rights are supposed to protect against
Red Skull speaks the truth.
>>76795727
Illegals going on government programs, taking welfare and scholarly assistance , working under the table and voting in yor democratic elections is a benefit to the economy ? Huh.. Really made me think.
>>76795727
Oh hey, I'm also literally fucking retarded. You can I could be friends.
>>76796768
Yeah it costs the little people taxes but like >>76796320 said the rich don't pay taxes. The cheap labor increases their wealth and the net is a higher GDP. If you don't want open borders you are basically a liberal.
>>76796867
Fuck you
Trump supporting is serious
>>76795727
Why not just bring back slavery?
>>76795727
>don't free the slaves, they do the work Americans won't do.
>>76796680
>subscribe or login to view
>complains about tax dodging elite
>posts democrat that is actively financing clinton campaign
please neck yourself
>>76797123
you forgot we have to pay for their survival when they go to prison in addition to all of their healthcare
>>76797181
>paying taxes on under the table cash transactions
'No'
>>76797420
>Red Skull speaks the truth.
>>76795727
Anyone have those nice Sweden stats.
>>76797507
>If you don't want open borders you are basically a liberal.
Got it, you're a troll.
>>76797715
Wow, the redpills.
Illegal immigrants get paid an illegally low amount of money taking work away from lower working class individuals. these individuals then have no jobs and therefore leech off of the government taking money out of the system. If people had money they earned they would spend it on stuff and boost the economy. illegal immigrants don't pay taxes.
>>76795727
Is spics are hardworkers, why are Hispanic countrys in shambles?
>>76795727
Illegals going on government programs, taking welfare and scholarly assistance , working under the table and voting in yor democratic elections is a benefit to the economy ? Huh.. Really made me think.
>>76797123
>Illegals don't get welfare.
Then why do they get more than Americans?
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Illegal-Immigrants-Welfare-American/2016/05/09/id/727875/
>>76796320
>But they pay into taxes too.
>>76797765
Nope.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0
>>76797507
>If you don't want open borders you are basically a liberal.
But only the liberals are wanting open borders wtf troll detected or just retarded.
>>76797892
this, if you are a socialist you should realise that open borders hurts the working class the most
>>76797881
>Wow, the redpills.
It's the altered version (here's the original) but it's amazing how that the left actually gets closer to the truth when they're trying to vilify those that they hate.
Of course they try to paint Red Skull as the villain but they don't understand that in doing so, all they're doing is turning people into Red Skull.
I know I personally would've never become a racist or a fascist if the anti-Whites didn't keep calling me those things simply because I was White and wanted my people to exist.
>>76795727
>Illegal immigration is a boost to the economy
They work for low wages, thus driving down everyone else's wages. And as with most cases, they send that money straight to Mexico. The money they earn isn't spent in the US. I'm pretty sure that's the opposite of a boost to the economy.
Also, it's the exploitation of labor, something I thought the left has fought to stop. You pansies claim you want $15 an hour for flipping burgers but have no issue with Juan and Pedro working in a blistering heat for $4 an hour. That sounds like hypocrisy to me. Not that it surprises me, the democratic party is the same party that fought tooth and nail to keep the blacks enslaved.
>>76797251
This fucking guy gets it.
14/88 my friend, 14/88
>>76795727
>but it is ultimately a boost to the economy
No it isn't. Illegals consume welfare and commit crime at a much higher rate than the native population. They also send more money back to Mexico in remittances than they add to the US's GDP.
>The labor they do is crap lazy Americans won't do
What are you even talking about? If there are jobs, people will work. Not to mention obesity is higher among Mexicans than among Americans. The fact that they wouldn't even go to the trouble of obtaining the neccessary documents to cross the border legally is a testament to their work ethic. The idea that they are somehow harder workers is flat out wrong.
>Americans have no chance of living decently off of the wages they get
Certainly not the millions of high school graduates/single moms/homeless vets currently looking and unable to find jobs taken by beaners who are willing to work for peanuts that they can eat while waiting in the welfare line.
>and the prices of goods go down because of the cheap labor
That's assuming the labor gets cheaper without the population going up. 5 cents off your bread doesn't balance out 11 million illegal faggots sucking up billions of taxpayer dollars per year.
>...but it is ultimately a boost to the economy. The labor they do is crap lazy Americans won't do.
This is the dumbest meme
>>76798436
>This fucking guy gets it.
>14/88 my friend, 14/88
>>76795727
Justice and morality is more important than financial gain.
If you want to change the law, change the law. Until then, obey and enforce it.
>>76795727
Yea, they take the jobs that lazy moochers won't do. I don't know any job I wouldn't take if I was hungry and poor. Real Americans are hard working.
What they actually do is lower the wages of these jobs and let their employers abuse them. Tell me that's good for the economy you dumb ass
>>76795727
They cost tax payers $50 billion a year so fuck off.
>>76795727
>crap Americans won't do
That fucking lie needs to end.
>>76798173
>boinie sanduhs, the communist jew
>>76795727
Illegal immigrants pay around 10 billion dollars in taxes but they cost around 100 billion dollars to tax payers
Source:http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
Trump doesnt want them, hillary said the same things about them, and bernie did it las year
I'm sorry but they have to go back , go make your own countries great so you can have what americans have
Of the 30% illegal aliens only 5% all the rest reproduce and suck off the welfare tweet of tax payers
>>76795727
Typical retarded liberal, with tired old memes.
Do you understand how supply and demand works?
What happens to wages when there is an oversupply in labor? It goes down.
And it doesn't just affect the lowest shit paying jobs, but virtually all jobs.
Just look at what happened when women entered the labor force.
50 years ago when men were the sole breadwinners in the family, they had more disposable income than anyone has now doing the same jobs.
Wages have been diluted to such an extent that it has become necessary for both men and women to work to make enough money to support a family.
The occupations that could once afford you a middle-class lifestyle, cannot do so anymore.
This trend will not stop until mass immigration stops. Do you really thing all these rich and powerful people support mass immigration out of the goodness of their hearts?
Mass immigration is good for the democrats because they are voting fodder who are easily swayed by convincing them they are victims of some sort.
It is good for the Neocons because it is cheap labor.
But is it good for average Americans? No!
>>76799102
Sander's is a nationalist, not a globalist. He was against open borders up til a couple weeks ago. BUT. He's a crazy old fuck who thinks the illegals in America should be citizens.
>>76797997
>Links to article using shitty biased source thats against illegal immigration
Now try linking an actual article
>>76795727
If Americans won't do the jobs,. RAISE WAGES UNTIL THEY WILL. Econ 101. Illegal strike breakers can fuck off and die.
>>76796532
yeah but having a slave caste that has kids that are citizens and can vote is kind of a self defeating process don't you think?
>>76795727
>ultimately a boost to the economy
They're stealing the work ethic from the next generation by taking the low-skill jobs normally taken by teenagers.
It's the very few pest thing that could happen to the economy in the near future.
Okay Republicans,
You hate slavery, but it is ultimately a boost to the economy. The labor they do is crap lazy Americans won't do. Plus Americans have no chance of living decently off of the little food and housing they get, and the prices of goods go down because of the free labor. Because of this, it is really better for Americans.
Can't Abridge the Breckenridge
>>76796020
Sad that this guy is the antagonist in this comic.
I hope it's the same one where Captain Sweden says "Hail Hydra", otherwise it's just more liberal garbage.
>You hate illegal immigration, but it is ultimately a boost to the economy.
lol
What lazy bait.
>>76799396
>biased against illegal immigration
lmfao bud its a crime, its not bringing shit to the economy but to agriculture Jews, and soon with automation there will be far less need to have a bunch of berry pickers
>>76795727
>it's good for the economy
>therefore you must genocide yourself :DDDD
Why is this argument supposed to make sense or be attractive ?
>>76798627
>advanced animal or beyond man
>no choice to just be man
Americans don't do cheap labour because the illegals do it, and its cheap because illegals do it.
>>76795727
>The labor they do is crap lazy Americans won't do
Even if this is true, why do faggots think this is a bad thing?
Having a population with high standards keeps the standard of living high, because the employees won't accept bullshit from employers.
If greedy employers can't find anyone willing to do hard work for minimum wage, then the free market should dictate that they should increase wages to attract employees. This is what keeps wages high, the economy robust and the profits of the top 1% in check.
By importing immigrants to do hard work for shit wages, you are destroying the wages of the bottom 99% and enriching the top 1%.
>>76799798
It depends on perspective.
To economists, GDP is their ultimate metric for economic success.
The blame lies with insecure economists who want the public to show their field as much respect as they do to hard sciences, so they kept 'mathematizing' the field to absurd proportions, and the most quantifiable metric of the economy is the GDP, so that is what they focus on.
It's hard to measure subjective shit like life quality and citizen satisfaction, but it's easy to measure GDP.
>>76795727
Don't you complain that the poor niggers were slaves. Why do you want to own spanish slaves now.
>>76797187
You tell me after you look at which party gave us the 13th and 19th.
Democrats have always been the slavers
>>76799520
>If Americans won't do the jobs,. RAISE WAGES UNTIL THEY WILL.
Bu...bu...bu... that would mean more Americans will make a living wage and the top 1% won't be making their record-shattering profits any more.
How can you be so cruel!?
>>76799396
http://cis.org/Cost-Welfare-Immigrant-Native-Households
they show their data sources and methodology. what specifically don't you agree with?
>>76800247
Yeah but welcome to reality. How about you do some of those jobs yourself? Does that ever enter the minds of people who hate illegals? They're doing jobs that that nobody else will do. Maybe start doing the jobs instead of complaining about the pay? Promotions are a thing if you're a competent worker
>>76795727
George Borjas is a Harvard economist who contributed to the consensus that immigration is always good. Some time ago, he reviewed the data and changed his mind. Check out his books Heaven's Door and We Wanted Workers But Got People.
>>76800855
Probably that they're anti illegals. But if I remember their history correctly, it was started by a couple guys who were originally pro open borders until they started getting the data back.
>>76798403
Are you retarded. I know of at least 5,000 illegals 15 minutes from me making at least $12.50 an hour with free food an housing ... plus a seasonal bonus...
Packing apples or washing Cherries.
>>76801094
And that's half the labor bid of an American.
>>76795727
Legal immigration is a net positive. No one will disagree.
Illegal immigration strains the Healthcare system, ruins the welfare system, and makes poor honest blue collar families angry.
>>76800930
>They're doing jobs that that nobody else will do.
That again, is absolute bullshit.
The illegals were allowed in by soft-hearted leftists.
The illegals started doing some jobs much cheaper (because they were illegal and could get away with it).
That dropped the wage scale of those jobs.
Citizens could no longer do those jobs because they don't pay enough or the businesses only hire illegals (because they're cheaper and easier to deal with)
Leftists that support illegal immigrants claim that illegals are now doing "jobs americans won't do".
You rid the country of the illegals (and the non-Whites but that's another matter) and you'll find that things will rebalance themselves and the citizens will do those jobs again.
>>76801094
Shit... I wanna make $12.50 an hour picking apples or washing cherries. That sounds fucking great.
>don't deal with customers
>dont deal with fucking people
>be around organic stuff all day
>$12.50 an hour
Yes pls ;_;
>>76799317
This is true. In the 70's everyone on my block had one father working, mom didn't work.
They had two cars, two kids and at least one long vacation a year, mostly to Europe.
One guy owned 4 lawnmowers and cut lawns.
Another guy worked at the hardware store in a non management position.
Another guy worked at the grocery store.
Another guy worked as a loan processor at the bank.
The houses they lived in cost $400,000 today when they come onto the market. All built in the 1970's. Those are 4 bedroom 2,000 sq ft ranch homes on 1/4 acre lots.
>>76801360
>they're doing jobs for much cheaper
OH NO HOW AWFUL
Suck it up you fucking pussy. You gotta start somewhere. At least illegals are taking what they can get instead of sitting around complaining that it's not good enough. Get over yourself. Stay mad you fucking cuck
>>76800930
>How about you do some of those jobs yourself?
So you want me to work 12+ hours a day in blistering heat for $4.50 an hour when I can stay in my current 9-5 A/Ced office job making $20+/hour?
Nobody else will do them because they're making minimum wage at best.
>Maybe start doing the jobs instead of complaining about the pay?
This is the kind of bullshit mentality that's leading to the decline of the middle class. Wages have to be reasonable for the work employees provide. How about employers stop being greedy assfucks and stop hiring immigrants for cheap labor?
>>76795727
I want my kids to be able to find work, and be paid a reasonable amount, and that won't happen if these worthless fucking shitskins flood this country
>>76801552
Not an argument.
>>76801588
>I don't want to do those jobs
>someone should though
>definitely not me
And then you complain about what happens when others take the job. Jesus christ you sound like an entitled little twat.
>>76801394
If we stopped importing immigratns and you make $12.50 an hour, your employer will only make $500,000 in profit and not $1 million.
That's an absolute holocaust!!!
>>76801733
Sounds like you're feeling the BERN. Welcome to the movement
>>76795727
So was slavery which was legal before the war of northern aggression.
>>76801552
>OH NO HOW AWFUL
Yes. They're harming the people (in this case the White race) to make money.
>Suck it up you fucking pussy. You gotta start somewhere.
So I should be treated like an illegal immigrant muddite because the business owner wants to exploit people to make some more money?
>At least illegals are taking what they can get instead of sitting around complaining that it's not good enough.
They're taking from my race.
>Get over yourself. Stay mad you fucking cuck
Said the faggot advocating the genocide of the white race to further his judeo materialist goals.
>>76801721
No, you dumb faggot.
No American will take the job because it pays too little.
Without immigrants interfering in the labor supply, employers are forced to raise wages to attract Americans.
Eventually, wages may eclipse the wage of my current office job and can entice me to quit my job.
That is healthy wage growth that every country needs, you fucking corporate cocksucker. It keeps the middle class strong and keeps the profits of the top 1% in check.
>>76795727
hillary supports deportation and a wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXLmmYRjDKw
>>76801932
>>76801972
Then learn to fucking communicate and organize, instead of growing evermore passive aggressive and complacent in being a complainer. Start trying to actually SOLVE your country's goddam problems, instead of just bitching about it
shitskin here i was voting for trump, becuase im not an illegal immingant and i love america dearly because there is only one america on earth, but the fact that white people are afraid of their race getting wiped out makes me want to drink white tears now (:
the weak must perish,
IM NOW FOR HILLARY!
>>76801327
>Legal immigration is a net positive. No one will disagree.
It's a net positive for the aggregate economy in that rising population increases consumption and raises GDP.
However, it does not mean it's good for the bottom 99%.
Immigration, whether illegal or legal, will always be a stick in the ass for the bottom 99% and a boon to the employers.
Immigrants clog up traffic, cause crime, and lower wages.
As someone in the middle class, I don't give a fuck that America has the richest people in the world and the highest GDP. That means nothing to me. What matters to me are wage levels. I'd gladly slash $5 trillion off our GDP if it meant we got rid of all immigrants and the wealth was more evenly distributed between the population via higher wages.
>>76801588
>So you want me to work 12+ hours a day in blistering heat for $4.50 an hour
Literally doesn't happen.
>>76802332
That $5trillion would be made up because we would have fucking jobs. GDP is a goddamn shit metric.
>>76801972
Yes we need more slave-like people with less rights than us citizens that we can pay less. Sounds like a very progressive position.
>>76795727
The fact that it benefits our country doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the matter. Illegal immigration is still illegal, and they need to go back until they attain citizenship through the proper channels.
Plus, if we adopt an open border policy, they don't have to settle for shit pay anymore. Defeats the purpose of allowing them to come in and out.
>>76795727
competition for labor does not help my family, or the practical economy that each of us are a part of.
>>76802687
Competition is why capitalism works though. That + exploitation
>>76802547
>GDP is a goddamn shit metric
It definitely is.
Insecure economists are so desperate to be seen in the same positive light as hard sciences, so they kept mathematizing the subject. The easiest measure of the economy is GDP, as that is quantifiable. A popular method used by economists is some theoretical bullshit using comparative static analysis to see what raises GDP. Of course, consumption is one of the variables, and the easiest way to do that is to import people.
Who fucking cares about living standards? Just raise GDP.
>>76795727
"The Mexicans help our economy by SENDING our money to Mexico tax-free!"
Fuck off mexinigger
>>76796532
oh shit guess I'm #HillBilly now
>>76802332
Immigrants are only here so Democrats can steal elections. Democrats would never be elected on their track record of turning American cities into murder hell holes.
The sole reason Mexicans die in the desert, there are tons of drugs coming across the border, and ISIS tries to smuggle a nuke through Mexico are because Democrats need to steal elections. Those Mexicans vote Republican, suddenly the border's closed.
It's big government politics 101. Burn out the people who vote against you. Bring in people whose votes can be bought on the cheap.
We could be researching immortality instead of eating ourselves to death.
We could have a different monetary policy besides lying to look good in front of a global deflationary train wreck.
We could get off drugs and build strong families instead of burning down our neighborhoods between raping and murdering each other.
We could be replacing all those shit jobs with automation to give us REAL free shit, like humans not having to slave away for subsistence for the first time ever in history.
We could build real wealth that lasts instead of squandering precious collateral to prop up lies that make criminal lawyers feel good.
We could be individuals instead of fascist drones enriching lying criminals.
BUUUUTTTTT NOOOOOOOOO! We have to live with FUCKING YOU!!!!!!!
>>76796247
I feel graced to have witnessed comedic genius.
>>76795727
Kill yourself mudslime
>>76795727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uXJ1mgkyF0
>>76801588
Why does the left just push this utter tripe ?
I have over 5,000 illegals working within a 15 minute radius of where I am sitting.
Thier starting pay is:
$12.50 an hour
free housing
free food
as much overtime as they can do at time and a half
seasonal bonus
They only have to work an 8 hour shift..
You are literally making bullshit up.. you are part of the problem
>>76796020
>>76799588
He IS the Badguy. Because he's only using the plight to further his agenda. Then turns around and uses the same barbaric tactics the terrorists use. Red Skull doesn't actually care about you.
>>76803056
This graph should explain why GDP is fetishized. Consumption and government spending accounts for the bulk of the calculation.
>>76795727
source for these claims?
oh, and
>illegal
