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We are too divided as a nation, and everyone knows it. We are no longer a nation in the traditional sense of the word; we are a collection of people with mixed heritage, with drastically different political beliefs and cultural values. It's at the point now where nothing gets fucking done because our ideas of what America should be are too different, and no matter which way it ends up going, you are going to have 50% of the population disagree the direction. The only solution is Balkanization: the break-up of the United States into many different nation-states. It may be easiest to Balkanize during the next financial collapse, when distrust of the Federal Government is at it's highest.
The question is, /pol/, where should we move to to create our own State with our own values? Also, how can we use our meme-magic to convince the population that Balkanization is the correct direction to go?
BAMP
Common /pol/
LETS DISCUSS THIS
>>76734527
>>76734527
>Utah
why though
>>76734527
I would enjoy a dominion of the Atlantic so much. I hate when we get lumped in with the Northeast.
>>76735619
Idk, I just got an image off Google.
I assume it would be a Mormon Theocracy, which would be pretty cool, tbqh fampai.
>>76734527
Don't associate Missouri with the faggot state of new york. It's Midwest or dixie
>>76735694
Well that's perfect, because I'm tired of being lumped in with people who still have confederate flag bumper stickers and cowboy boots.
>>76734527
My gf from the U.S. says alot of states actually wants to secede is this true?
Soon.
The New Texas Republic (NTR, because that's what we will do to you) will have at least the states touching it.
>>76734527
>Utah
>Not Deseret
>>76735919
Alot of the western nd mid-west states and texas. not including washington, california, or oregon though.
>>76734527
>Divided we fall
>>76735919
texas was supposed to be its own country
>>76735911
This one is trash.
I don't know why people put Texas in Appalachia.
>>76736070
Yes, and we are falling right now because we are trying to force this divided group to be a cohesive nation.
>>76734527
greater republic of texas and north american free states.
from the mississippi to the rio grande to canada and cascadia.
all is rightful clay of texas and their allies.
>>76735919
Texas does, for sure. If Rick Perry, the former Governor, talked openly about succession. He basically said if the Federal Government started overreaching their bounds too much, succession wouldn't be out of the question. Plus, Texas in and of itself has an economy that are on the same level as entire nations.
>>76735694
>>76735861
be our guest! i hope most of what you need is made of cotton.
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/Press-Release/2016pr/04/exh2s.txt
>>76736088
Texas and California actually WERE countries. They both seceded from Mexico. And Utah had Mormon terrorists attempt to make their own country, AKA Deseret, the holy land in the book of Mormon.
>>76736248
i doubt mormons are hardly considered to have terrorists.
>>76736423
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre
Mormons have already colonized much of Nevada and Idaho. Those areas would be part of the Deseret theocratic state.
>>76736423
also, this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War
>>76736493
>terrorist where
>>76736661
semantics, anon. the term terrorist wasn't invented until the late 1800s. but what they did was terrorism.
Say goodbye to coffee.
>>76735919
South South would love a revived Confederacy, Texas always wanted to go its own way and New England would bitch less if it was on its own
>>76734527
Won't happen, the US is economically diversified.
That is:
>Farming in the center
>Industry in the northeast
>Propaganda & high-end tech center in California
>Fucking.....welfare and military recruiting in the South
>Guns in Texas
>Logging in the Dakotas
>Vacation homes in Florida
>etc...
You couldn't split up America any more than you could split up a functioning human body into it's component parts and expect them to survive on their own.
Mormon swimwear. An alternative to degeneracy or Muslim light?
>>76734527
>West Virginia part of the north
"no"
So many people are fucking retarded about this, West Virginia is as backwoods racist hillbilly as you can get. There's no fucking way in hell WV would go to the north.
There are several situations ranked from most likely to least likely:
>WV goes to the south
Obvious. You see more Confederate flags flown in WV than actual American flags.
>Power gap
>WV joins Virginia in an independent Atlantic state
Unlikely because Virginia is such a carpetbagger infested shithole that West Virginians would rather die than be forced into a union with them. The only way this would work would be if Virginia became strong conservatives again.
>Insane power gap
>West Virginia becomes a completely independent nation
The only way this would occur would be if WV started producing natural gas and coal at 200% efficiency. Basically, it's not going to happen.
>???
>West Virginia joins the North
Such an unfathomable situation that only an utter retard could think of it. Over my and every other West Virginians dead body.
Fuck yankees, I'd rather be surrounded by beaners than I would filthy yankees.
If every yankee died tomorrow I'd celebrate.
>>76736849
>Alex, What is free-trade
These industries could still freely trade with each other across country lines just as they do now across state lines. Other smaller nations survive just fine without having to produce all of their own goods.
Combine this with natural geographic borders and you have your answer.
>>76736423
>>76736661
You know how warlike Islam is about its holy land? Imagine that but with Mormons in Utah.
>>76734527
Trump will make us great again.
>>76734527
It is simple, it is going to start in Texas and California.
Those states area already lost we just have not admitted it yet.
>>76737117
Yeah and what was the Federal Government originally?
It was an economic/military defense contract between independently operating sovereign states.
It's only grown to be the monstrosity it is today in the last century
>>76737084
Well, I guess i should have put in my original post that the picture doesn't reflect how I actually think the states should be split up, I just got it off of google. Also, I agree with you.
>>76737082
Mormonism has almost nothing to do with Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk
It's been described by many as a white Western version of Islam
>>76737082
>An alternative to degeneracy or Muslim light?
yes.
it is the only way to stop us from raping them.
>>76735861
Works for me too friend! Can we have slaves again?
>>76734527
>finally lumped in with the states closest in culture to us instead of that somali shithole who just happens to be next door
About time. It's like no one understands this area of the nation.
>>76735766
Look up Deseret.
>not giving Idaho and Arizona to Utah.
>Not giving Colorado back to Utah to restore the state of Deseret.
Stay cucked
>>76737451
That's the best part, you get to decide!
>>76737340
That's alright, I was more responding to the notion than your post.
At least half of any balkanized American maps has West Virginia with the north and it pisses me off.
>>76737361
Mormonism is Christianity that has been spiked with western paganism. It's an extremely heretical religion founded by a conman, you can hardly make that shit up.
>>76737241
I know. The 'Unite States' used to be just that, independent nations under a voluntary coalition. But now, as you said, it's at a point where the federal government has overreached far too much. I don't think it's even realistically plausible to cut it back to what it used to be, which is why secession is the only answer, imo.
>>76735861
Filthy carpetbagger, get the fuck out of the South.
>>76737082
>Magic Underwear
>Theodemocracy
>Polygamy
>Translated holy texts from a hat
>No Coffee, Alcohol, Hot Drinks, Tobacco, Porn or swearing
>Tithes
>Mandated Mission time
how about no
This post just shows that you know nothing about America. The divide is between urban and rural local areas, not states and regions.
>>76737596
The Union hasn't been voluntary since the civil war.
NC would split into at least 2/3. You have the mountain hillbillies, the coastal farmers/blacks and the carpetbagger Yankees in the middle cities. Carpetbaggers would go with the north, rest the new south.
>>76734527
In a Balkanization scenario the South will go along with Texas for sure, as well as at least the top 2/3rds of Florida. South Florida would be taken by force (dem mangoes bruh) Gulf Coast nation FTW.
>>76737830
Which is why Lincoln is a dirty fucking tyrant. Fuck him.
>>76737830
Lincoln was the worst president we've ever had. He set the precedent for the tyrannical actions of FDR and Onigger.
Fuck him and fuck the yankees who swoon over him.
>>76737923
New Cuba
>>76736849
My southern state alone has agriculture and tech in abundance and as the other anon said, trade still exists. Maybe you should get your information from somewhere other than family guy and the daily show.
>>76737923
Honestly, I wouldn't mind the helm of the south being in Texas, Virginia is lost so we can't put it back in Richmond.
>>76737084
Your problem is you broke up Virginia to side with the North so we don't fucking want you back with us in the south.
>>76738218
We have to purge Austin before we could do that.
If you guys care enough there's a great video of Tom Woods at Mises Institute talking about the secession issue.
Very informative and it could change your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXOEdvfMeIY
>>76738317
FOR FUCKS SAKES IT WAS THE ACTIONS OF LINCOLN THAT SPLIT US UP. WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT, IT WAS FORCED ON US. MOST WEST VIRGINIANS WANTED TO REMAIN A PART OF THE SOUTH
LINCOLN WAS A TYRANNICAL NIGGER
>>76738335
A lot of cities would have to be purged in a split.
>>76737596
I honestly don't think secession is a good long term plan.
We need a united America, our ancestors shed blood for this land.
If there is secession, the plan should be to secede, then fight a war with the other half, win it, and put our new government in charge of America proper.
The problem with this is nukes, which makes it pretty much impossible for two armed superpowers to open up a conflict with each other. That's why the only way to win wars these days is through propaganda, infiltration, and immigration for a demographic victory.
This is the strategy Putin is using in Ukraine. He's financing rebel groups, showering the citizens with anti-NATO Russian propaganda through RT, and making moves to topple the government so the citizens will look to him for strength.
Could we do something similar with the US? Yes. Whichever state chooses to join us and accept our new government will get their debt cancelled, will get some sort of privileged status (maybe "economic recovery subsidies" or something such as that), and will get under our nuclear shield.
As the rest of the country fails under liberalism, our sovereign would remain strong. With enough propaganda and cloak&dagger infiltration, one by one the other states would join us. At first they would not get an equal vote on our council until they were fully acculturated to the new system. Eventually when we had the majority of states on our side, we could simply put crushing economic sanctions on the rest and strongarm them to join us.
Now we're in control, we can remove kebab, throw the beaners out, and humanely deport our African American brothers and sisters to South Africa
>>76737241
So? It doesn't matter what it was, it matters what is and what it is an oppressive tyrant. That's why we're talking about going back to what it should be, independent states or regions that share common culture.
>>76738460
Honestly, I don't want to be in a union with yankees or faggot west coasters, we're better off without them.
Now, I wouldn't mind being in a union with the midwest, you guys are alright.
OP that map sucks here take this
>>76735911
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan = not the same nation
Toronto, Ontario and Topeka, Kansas = shit I can hardly tell them apart!
>>76734527
A balkanization would be pointless unless the US split upon ethnic lines.
Give Latinos their own states, give blacks their own states, and let whites have their own states.
>>76737923
texas doesn't want the niggers, and the niggers would want to stay with their sugar daddies up north.
>>76738335
austin isn't so bad, really, and could really easily work as a national capital.
the government facilities downtown are ridiculously large.
a few more. which is your favorite /pol/
>>76738460
>We need a united America
Why? So we can keep blowing absurd amounts of money on stupid shit like welfare and wars and keep the government as far from the peasantry as possible like we do right now? What's so special about a united America?
>>76738615
Is there anything fundamentally different about the land in the Northeast that turns people into cucks?
Is it all that different ethnically? Well slightly, but not all that much really.
The reason they're such cucks up there is they live in an entirely different media bubble. The goal should be to conquer them and get them acculturated to our standards. We can do it, don't let old rivalries get the better of you
>mojave being the SW border states
Whoever made this map is retarded.
Balkanization sounds nice but border issues would become the mad meme, even moreso than they are now. Frankly, the less Spanish I have to hear, the better.
>>76738793
We need this land, all of it. It's for us
Not under the current government, perhaps not even under the current governmental system.
But we need all of this land, and we must stand united, no balkanization
>>76736038
washington and oregon have been parading the idea of the state of cascadia for decades
>mfw the 'god damn i love being white' guy is Joseph Smith, the guy who invented mormonism
>>76738739
Austin is a great Capitol and full of industry, but the problem is they wouldn't ally with Texas. It's like a San Francisco in the middle of Texas.
>>76737840
Or we could just kill the foreign transplants and anyone who wants to be a traitor.
will never happen
Balkanization of states must require even smaller divisions. The US is larger than europe and you want to divide it up into larger parts? Take a state like Virginia for example. The north is so radically different than the south of the state that driving from DC to Richmond involves going from a region with a 100k+ average salary to a ghetto.
The balkanization of the United States would be much more fractured in the eastern and western shores, and in places like Texas and Florida with large differences in areas.
Realistically,Utah and Colorado would team up, although they have differing culture values they're both the region's powerhouses economically and in the modern era it's about wealth more than morals. California would likely split like Chile, with a thin shoreline independent state and the inland being more aligned with the Mojave area. Same thing would likely happen with Oregon and Washington, with northern Washington likely joining Canada and the rest joining Coastifornia. Inland Western states would join the intermediate region of Idaho and Eastern Washington/Oregon, if not joining the Dakota states. I can see Montana, the richest, splitting off with N. Dakota if the oil industry props them up.
Texas would likely stick together fore the largepart, although I can see a few regions splitting off towards the borders. But it's texas, so they would go and take it back by all likes.
The more likely distribution in the south is a Gulf region, inland Alabama/Arkansas/Missouri area, and then Georgia just kind of being there. Tennesee, W/VA, and Kentucky are all very similar and would likely form a region with Southwest VA and south Indiana, like a supra-Appalachian
All the tidewater states would likely bond together.
The northern states would not be so close.
Northeasternmost states would form a weirdo group, with places like connecticutt, Maine, Vermont, etc. all up there in their weird little world.
>>76739113
kek, yeah
One thing about the Mormons, they're white as fuck
In their mythology, black people are the spirits of the minions of Satan
>>76738876
wow, that map is old
OKLAHOMA WILL JOIN TEXAS AND FORM THE TEXOMA REPUBLIC REEEEEEE
>>76738732
california and the south east need to be sacrificed to appease the dyn du and wetback.
but, as my map illustrates, the white man must maintain control of the mississippi.
african-americanstan must start east of the river, with them giving up their positions in new orleans.
florida gets the short end of the stick, really. surrounded by them and the sea.
it should just become a new hispanic country, separate from the west coast one.
>>76734527
>>76734961
>>76735260
fuck off traitor
>>76739169
Cont.
New york is big enough to be it's own country even now, so Combined with PA, NJ, Delaware, and some small chunks of land nearby they would form a massive chunk, with a fairly huge GDP to boot.
Finally, I can see North Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota forming a north midwest section, very similar culturally. Detroit would be abandoned by greater Michigan to die as it joins Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio in a South-Midwest superstate.
Iowa goes nowhere and noone notices. Hawaii fucks off back to doing meth, and Alaska has a rite gud time cunt.
>>76739332
COME HOME HAT
>>76738880
If it's possible, I welcome it.
We should let themselves burn their places to the ground first, they'll grow some thicker skin then.
This map is what a split should look like, any criticisms?
>>76739375
What I'm seeing here is a bunch of idiots who like shiny beads.
>tfw my state would be a constant tug of war between California and Texas.
>>76736207
>america is divided meme
You guys do know that Dakotas hate each other? They'd never team.
>>76739482
Don't worry, Texas will save you from commies
>>76738451
>At the election on May 23, 1861, secession was ratified by a large majority in the state as a whole. But, in the western counties that would form the state of West Virginia the vote was approximately 34,677 against and 19,121 for ratification of the Ordinance of Secession.
Wrong.
This thread is dumb.
The establishment will never benefit from decentralization so it will never happen.
>>76739113
I wouldn't mind converting to Mormonism just to live in the Theocratic State of Utah. Pretty much all Mormons I met IRL were bros, and never took the book seriously. However, they value family and traditional values like nobody else. No matter how much they get shit on in the media, they have an ideal society.
The only people in the media that hasn't shit on them has been the south park guys. They made fun of what they believe, but they always have them being morally higher than everyone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsmyzC4AkFQ
>>76739420
Looks good.
I say we send them all our blacks.
It'll rid us of our crime problem and redpill the fuck out of the whitebread cucks. They'll take them with open arms (poor refugees), and in a generation they'll be begging to join us
>>76739438
Plz no leaf rule. I don't want to smoke weed and house refugees. If I did, I would stayed in college longer.
>>76739490
It is. You can see it with every controversial new law that a state passes.
>>76739601
In the South Park universe, Mormons actually had the one true god
Everybody except Mormons were sent to hell
>>76739546
>Elections aren't rigged
Do you seriously believe that Lincoln wouldn't rig an election? Do you seriously believe that the average West Virginian could vote back then?
>>76739607
The nogs would flee north if this happened anyways, the ones that stayed behind would be forcefully removed.
The capitol should be in Texas, the question is: Which city should take the burden?
>>76739114
nah, it's not that bad, it's just got the kids in it.
you'd have a harder time getting the small people of the other major cities. antonio and dallas and houston are all infested with roaches.
>>76735861
We don't care for you, either, you Yankee faggot. We could do what you faggot Yankees did to us; come kill you and take your shit. In our fucking cowboy boot. With our guns that you Yankee faggots are afraid of.
>>76736215
This, it would be nice if we could keep california but you would have to kick out all the liberals and most of the mexicans
>>76739762
kek, we should put our capitol right up next to Washington DC, as close as possible. Within spitting distance
It would send a strong message and intimidate the fuck out of them
>>76738732
Except everybody will want in on the White states
The non white states will fail miserably & they know it deep down
>>76739438
This is pretty autistic ΤΒΗ
>>76739354
>florida
Principality of Puerto Rico, you mean.
>>76739853
That's the spirit.
Keep on fighting the good fight, brother. Fcuk yankees.
>>76739929
Richmond would be a trophy capitol if we could expel the carpetbaggers. Imagine it, 200 years after the first confederacy had it as its capitol the second confederacy would also have it as its capitol.
None of those scenarios has popular backing.
Pic related might happen. We took that land by force, not so long ago, from a nation that still exists. Also, we encouraged those people to return to that land to work in the fields. Much of the immigration in those states was legal and encouraged by greedy americans.
How would a five year plan sound? All the illegals in the united states have five years to move to mexico as shown on that map. Anyone who is a citizen in those states will be reimbursed for their property if they wish to move to the USA and have trouble finding a willing buyer.
>>76740006
Ideally, these new white states would apply strict border controls.
If the US were to split along ethnic lines, then ethnicity would become more important. Non-white immigration would be tightly controlled, if not outlawed all together.
>>76740081
I don't like the symbology though, associating with the Confederates.
Slavery was pretty fucking Jewey
>>76740108
>not so long ago
Try nearly 200 years. No one was living there anyways.
Your plan is shit and you're shit, fucking false flagging beaner.
>>76740108
Texas has too much oil, even the Democrats who love Mexicans would bomb Mexico to ashes to keep Texas
>>76734527
All we need to do is get rid of California and 95% of our problems are solved.
>>76740108
This is such a retarded map. It implies Mexico has enough military power to do anything to even a broken up America.
>>76740311
New shale discoveries mean there's oil practically everywhere now, not just Texas
You don't need a well anymore, just a deposit of shale rock
>>76734527
>it's an "I'm 14 and the civil war was about states' rights not slavery" thread
>>76740249
In all honesty, Slavery was one of the many straws that broke the South's back. It was more of the issue of the North trying to force the South into following their laws.
Besides, you couldn't have a conservative America without it being compared with the South. It's inevitable, the yankees would try to use it as propaganda against us.
We should identify with the South just to give a big "fuck you" to the yankees, west coast faggots, and Europeans. It would be the ultimate way to show the world that we mean business.
>>76740334
California has Silicon Valley, the tech center of the world.
Your computer was probably invented there, as well as 90% of the technology inside of it
>>76734527
Honestly would rather NYC, LA & Chicago become free cities or something. Tired of them pretty much imposing their liberal BS on the rest of the country.
>>76740263
>>76740311
What happens when the majority in those states votes to leave? I don't think we are going to have another civil war over something like this.
Also, oil does not have the importance it did in the past. Border control is more important now, and this would give us a border we could enforce without guilt.
>>76740482
>It implies Mexico has enough military power to do anything to even a broken up America.
I don't think the map implies use of force before or after we return the land that used to be theirs.
Look at a map showing percentages. Those areas are already about 25% hispanic, and the percentage is increasing.
>>76740563
Don't you have a dick to go suck?
I heard that's the new rage up north.
>>76740563
>I'm 14, and I just learned from my Government Issued history book that the civil war was caused by evil racists that wanted to keep poor negros in chains
Fuck off
>>76734527
But we're divided by ideology, not by regional differences
>>76740643
>Texas
>Arizona
>Utah
>Voting to leave
Pick one and only one you deluded beaner.
BUILD A WALL
>>76734527
This graph isn't likely what would happen.
The northern states expand too far into the middle.
Florida couldn't be it's own country.
Texas wouldn't be alone, Arkansas,Louisiana, and Oklahoma would join in.
Why are the Dakota and MidAmerica Separate?
The entire west coast would join together.
Utah would probably join with MidAmerica or Mojave.
>Utah
>Mojave
>Carolinas are separated
>Midwest grouped with the northern states
>Oregon
>>76740753
Mexico doesn't want those shitskin mestizo's back, they want them gone & USA was stupid enough to take them in
>>76734527
>a map that doesn't show Oklahoma and Texas in the same "nation"
Finally a map made by an actual American.
>>76740589
So here's the deal, if you want to actually secede, you need secessionist governors, in a clear majority of the states you're looking to take hold of. That's no easy feat
You also will need a large portion of the US armed forces on your side (check that box), as well as ready-made alliances with wealthy foreign nations. Russia has already publicly stated it would ally with any seceding US states, you'd also need China and maybe get something going in the Middle East as well, (perhaps with Iran??).
Western Europe is part of the Anglo sphere, it will never sign a trade deal with you or support you in any way, and in fact will do everything possible to obstruct you
>>76740484
And much of that shale is in Texas, as well as the refineries to process it, and the pipelines to pump it out to the rest of the country. Oh and one of the largest ports in the US and the world, where the majority of oil related traffic in this country passes through.
Texas is integral to the US, they dearly need us.
>>76740890
>Utah would probably join with MidAmerica or Mojave.
Mormons DREAM of an independent Deseret, you can bet your ass that they'd leave the second they have a chance.
Mormons are hardly Americans, they identify more with their religion then their country.
>>76735919
No its an awful meme here on /pol/ you see this shit literally nowhere else
>>76739682
>Oklahoma not in bibleland...
I don't think now is the time for us to think about dividing and conquering. In a time of civil destruction and out-right invasion I think it would be best if we united, as our forefathers did.
>>76740985
>Mexico doesn't want those shitskin mestizo's back,
I'm pretty sure Mexico would gladly take that land back. No Mexican leader could oppose it and keep his job, much less his head. They lost that land to us in a war.
Look at how many times Poland and other nations have been restored to their historical borders.
>>76736215
I'd rather die Texan.
>>76735911
>all thats left to First Nations is a few barren icy wastelands
Fuck you
Lakoth Republic now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Lakotah
You recognized Kosovo, we recognize Lakotah. At least its actual Sioux clay, not fucking Anglo claygrabbers.
>>76741057
Active mormons only count as 41% of Utah.
In total it's 60, but that's assuming they want to fend for themselves.
Which they won't want to with mexicans to the south and liberals to the west.
>people grouping AZ and NM
When will this meme stop?
Not even remotely the same
>>76736849
Texas has agriculture, industry, petroleum, high tech, banking, ports/shipping... Even has its own electrical grid. Texas could easily be a self contained country.
>>76741148
>our forefathers did.
In a 95% White Christian America
They didn't picture an America full of shitskins with their own agenda, high taxes, massive outsourcing, open borders, atheism etc
Divide & Conquer already happened
>>76741031
With more than half of the US military, the breadbasket, and the South you'd have the next world super power.
Really, if the North didn't try anything funny we should work on keeping our independence safe and avoid any entangling alliances with Russia or China because they're looking to make us their puppet.
Honestly, with just the breadbasket you could control the world by ransom, over 50% of the world's food comes from there.If we said, "No more food for Europe unless they trade fairly with us" you could bet your damn ass they'd trade with us fairly.
If we made any allies it should be with smaller countries who have no chance of enforcing their will on us. Really, I have no clue what smaller countries would try to help us in a secession.
>>76741057
This. There is a streak of comic book world takeover plans straight from Joseph Smith. His most important prophecy was about Mormonizing America and then the world. They have a replica of the Oval Office, complete with the same communications equipment in one of their temples. And they are massively wealthy organizationally, and over-represented in the military and government bureaucracy.
>>76734527
>Lumping my based agrarian Midwest with shitty Jew loving New Cuckland.
Fuck off, Riverlander steel and corn forged America while dirty Jewland did dick in the Civil War. Fuck off
>>76734527
Well the 50% who believe in the constitution have guns so I'm pretty sure the other 50% will either get killed or head for Canada or Mexico. The country won't be broken up because the other 50% can't stop the other 50% from taking it all over.
>>76741606
Mormons are just white jews. Don't trust 'em.
>>76741505
Well that's kind of what I'm saying, let's unite against that and restore our country
also
> Atheism
Eh, nah. Atheism's been around in the United States for a long time..
>>76738335
I will be the God-Emperor of Austin and the South. Worry not about libfags, they are already in the process of being crushed.
>>76741505
Well unless they ship the niggers and spics out they will be even less white ifwe balkanize. And the average joe isnt going to send them back to Africa.
>AZ and New Mexico together only by virtue of their proximity
Fuck off. We don't want anything to do with that liberal shithole.
>>76741505
This
Even Benjamin Franklin was against German Immigration, calling them "Swarthy" in complexion. I assumed they were the southern Germans, not the northern Aryan ones.
>>76734527
I dont care where you fucks go, im going to montana
>>76741763
>And the average joe isnt going to send them back to Africa.
You'd be surprised, everyone's growing more and more racist by the day down south.
>>76741136
>t. neverGoneOutside
>>76739113
Well god damn mormons do love being white.
Crazy though they are they may well be the last bastion of white civilization.
Moral, not degenerate in the least, well armed and prepped for apocalypse scenarios (have to keep like 6 months supplies on hand IIRC), believe in large families and have tons of white children.
When all other whites have been mixed into oblivion the mormons will reaming a shining white beacon of civilization albeit authoritarian.
>>76741862
Yeah, we never liked the Germans... Or the Irish for that matter.
>>76735919
Yes, the South would love to leave.
If Trump somehow loses, then that may be a reality.
>>76741922
Whatever you say
>>76741896
Anon....
They've always been racist... Even the Liberal wannabes try to hide it..
>t. Southerner
>>76741739
the fuck. TN will never get nuked. Even Memphis unfortunately is safe because its on the Mississippi.
Honestly I dream of a world where Texas annexes all of the US Gulf Coast, Cuba, and Coastal Mexico through to the Yucatan. Many negroes, indios, and mestizos will have to be purged... But just imagine the glory of such a nation, encircling the entire Gulf of Texas (formerly of Mexico). It would be beautiful.
>>76741955
>last bastion of white civilization.
i've lived in utah all my life. i grew up mormon.
the church isn't white anymore. missionaries are sent to third world countries and recruit tons of brown people, who then come to utah to get closer to the church.
>>76734527
Balkanization will never happen because all states haven't ruled all the other states at least once
Also, the US is just a people, it's a civic identity, you're all ameriburgers
>colorado joining oklahoma kansas and nebraska
california 2.0 can go fuck off
>>76741136
>Live in the city my whole life
>Go into the countryside once or twice a year to see family
>Last time I went some 7 year olds were riding around with huge confederate flags on their bikes
I live in North Carolina
Leave the suburbs for a minute
>>76742082
Trust me, I know. It's just that everyone is growing from "Fuck niggers and beaners" to "We must secure a future for the white race."
It's glorious and I love it.
>>76735911
>the far west
I approve.
>>76741955
They've been busy importing brownskins into Utah, believing that Mormonism would civilize them. Instead what has happened is they now have a gang problem.
>>76742186
>Confederate flags mean they want to secede
Are you retarded? I see that shit where I go too, its heritage not fucking secession
>>76742241
What part you from, famalama?
>>76742312
>ship in thirld worlders
>crime skyrockets
Oh gee who would have thought
>>76742115
Damn that's sad. Every Mormon I've ever met was white as fuck, so many qtπ white girls... Fucking mud sharks.
>>76742344
West Virginia, but I've been traveling all over the South for the past 2 years.
Just last year talk of succession was considered just a bit too radical, now it's being considered the only solution if Hillary wins.
I love the South, it's the most friendly and inviting place I've ever been. Almost every white person here is jovial and friendly to some degree, in the North everybody is constantly pissed off at something stupid.
>>76741817
>California takes over BC
REEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S BAD ENOUGH HERE ALREADY!!! COMMIES GET OUT!!!
>>76742321
>Heritage
a heritage of secession
>>76734527
>Forcing Montana and Wyoming to be part of Dakota
I'll drink the blood of many invaders as they fucking try to take my state you mother fucker.
>>76740249
Slavery was immoral, but it also enabled the importation of black people; which the South still complains about to this day.
Honestly, if the South hates blacks so much, they shouldn't have imported them, and should've learned to pick their own cotton.
>>76741763
>the average joe isnt going to send them back to Africa.
They would if they got the right propaganda.
This is a mistake a lot of people make. They assume the general public is made of enlightened, free thinking people who make up their minds based on logic and goodwill. In reality, the majority of people are drones, pure idiots who believe whatever they feel will bring them social benefits.
200 years ago, people universally wanted to lynch gays. Today, people universally want them as friends to show off their tolerance. What changed? The media bubble they are engulfed in.
Russia, China, America, Turkey....etc. All of these "regimes", let's call them, have their own media infrastructure, and their own propaganda that they feed the general public. The opinions of the public are totally at the whims of the leaders.
For example, if Vladimir Putin wants to invade Ukraine, he simply sends out word to his media team to create the public perception for it. 6 months later, the population of Russia is itching for war.
Or let's say the unelected dictators of the EU want to pass nationwide tax incentives for gender transitions. They simply send out word to their media affiliates, and 6 months later the majority of the EU is screaming for it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E
People are like water, they take the shape of their container, which is formed by the opinions of the people around them, and what they judge to be socially beneficial for them. By creating a certain perception from a source of authority (a well dressed man on a TV screen), you can alter the shape of that container into practically anything you want.
This really is the proper way to look at people (not all people, just the bulk mass of unthinking normies). Democracy is a sham, the ruling regime uses sophisticated propaganda to do whatever they want, just as if they were in a monarchy. Getting the people's affirmation is just another little ritual they have to go through.
>>76736070
Union is not possible among people with differing opinions. That's why you want small countries and even smaller towns. Towns are the smallest and strongest union, and only a few within the town deal with other towns in a larger union, and so on and so forth. Since there is a trust pyramid and due to the small size of the strongest union, the entire system is truly united.
Take the current situation instead: everyone hates everyone because every decision made fucks with someone. Where's the union here?
>>76742910
Most slaves were imported by the British.
>>76742915
10/10 post.
>>76735911
>Livingston Parish is in New France and not the Deep south
LOL
>>76742910
>Why don't you change the past if you don't like the present so much?
>Can't do it? Well tough shit, you're not allowed to make changes now.
>>76736248
>Baton Rouge was its own country too, senpai
Can't believe nobody has posted the ACTUAL map of the balkanized US.
>>76739393
I know we never got along BUT IVE ALWAYS LOVED YOU TEXAS SENPAI
>>76741739
YES. Appalachia will become an independent entity. We like Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. Good people.
>>76742910
Yankee faggots brought the slave trade to the South.
>>76736103
There are a bunch of Scots Irish (people who list themselves as being "American") in the Texan interior, so that's probably why
>>76742915
The next thread about Balkanization should be a discussion about this tactic, and how we could potentially use it. Meme magic is a powerful thing
11/10 bost, m8
>>76742565
I'm a native West Virginian. Good to see you here.
>>76744973
Good to see a fellow West Virginian! Sometimes I feel like the only one.
I'm from the southeast, whereabouts are you from?
>>76745139
Chuck City.
>>76744973
>>76745139
hell, you're probably cousins.
>>76745497
We can kick your fucking ass like we're cousins, faggot. I don't appreciate your poor attempt at regional humor.
>>76735619
Mormons
>>76745276
Ah, how is it up your way? Southern West Virginia is doing fine at the moment, we're still mostly white it seems.
>>76740759
It is. Yankee faggots love to suck them some dick.
>>76746008
I live in the highest crime area in WV. I'm surrounded. They've not been that terrible, actually.
