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Nominations closed yesterday at noon and the candidates' names and the ballot paper order are being released today.

Antony Green is at the NSW Senate draw and live tweeting: https://twitter.com/AntonyGreenABC

Liberal Democrats got a good ballot position again.

Downloads will be available here soon: http://www.aec.gov.au/election/downloads.htm

You need to be a bit patient as this is HAPPENING right now.
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>>76689370
Antony Green has a post on his blog which he will update with all the details:

http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2016/06/close-of-nominations-2016-federal-election.html#more
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In NSW Senate:

Health Australia Party drew the first column. The Liberal Democrats have again been lucky in drawing the fourth column, but the Liberals and Nationals are two to the right in Column 6. Labor drew column 14 while the Greens are well over to the right on the ballot paper.
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Tasmania down from 24 to 22 columns on Senate ballot, Column 1 Family First, 2 Labor, 3 Greens, 4 Xenophon, 6 Liberal, 13 Lambie
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ACT Senate columns down from 12 to 11, Column 1 Lib Dems, 3 Labor, 6 Liberal, 8 Greens
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SA Senate down from 34 to 24 columns. Column 2 Labor. 4 Greens, 6 Xenophon, 8 Liberal 14 Family First
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Queensland has 38 groups plus 19 ungrouped independents. That's $38,000 deposits certain to be forfeited
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QLD Senate columns 4 Labor, 7 LNP, 9 Katter, 24Hanson, 29 Lazarus, 37 Greens
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I wonder how much ballot position really matters.

I know Lionhelm and LDP benefited from it big time at the last election.
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So Queensland so far is then only state with a larger ballot paper. Up from 38 to presumably 40 columns with likely ungrouped split
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>>76689370

Bump from America's Australia
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>>76690793
Thanks mates.
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>>76689370
Where are you getting all of this info from? Just ABC.net?
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>>76691041
Antony Green's twitter mostly:

https://twitter.com/AntonyGreenABC
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What are you hoping for Aus bro? I don't know anything about Aus politics. Is it all cancer like Canada?
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>>76691234
>Is it all cancer like Canada?
Pretty much.

There are some smaller non-cancer parties that have a chance of being elected in the senate, and that is all I really care about.
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>>76691324
Good luck man. How are your demographics?
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Pic related is the Victorian Senate Order.

Derryn Hinch has drawn the coveted donkey vote #1 Spot.
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>>76691417
>How are your demographics?
We have had too much immigration too fast and there are too many Chinks and poo-in-loos here now.

But it is the progressive cancer that has taken root among whites which kills us.
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Rob Oakeshott has nominated for Cowper it seems.

I don't like his chances. Backing Gillard killed him I think.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-10/rob-oakeshott-to-contest-election/7499970
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>>76691705
Just like Canada :S
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>>76692027
>Just like Canada
Yes our countries are very similar in many ways.
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Pic related is the Tasmanian Senate ballot order.
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They really need to do something about these meme parties with literally no votes getting on the Senate ballots
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>>76692305
m8 I reckon this will be the last time it happens.

The new senate voting rules mean the old preference scam can't be run any more.

The parties are giving it one last shot since it is a double dissolution which makes it easier to get elected.

But their enthusiasm to contest future elections and keep themselves current and registered must be pretty low given that it will be pretty much impossible for them to get elected in the future.

If they are smart a lot of the smaller parties will merge with similar parties to give themselves a better shot in the future.
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>>76692196
are shooters, fishers and farmers the most based party?
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>>76692987
They are pretty good.

Some people are pissed at them though because they are strong on guns for hunting, but not for self-defense.
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>>76693179
ah a shame, good luck on your elections australia
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what does any of this mean?
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>>76689370
So who are the major parties in abbo-land? Any up and comers?

Apparently I'm a liberal democrat, are they based?
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MAKE AUSTRALIA GREAT AGAIN
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>>76693403
>Are they based
Yeah. They want to bring back guns. Expand on BASED TONY's immigration policies and tell everyone to fuck off. They also want to limit the scope of government so it's more like America and less like UK Nanny State.
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>>76693399
Pretty broad question m8.

Yesterday was the deadline for people and parties to nominate for the election.

Today the nominees names are being publicly released and the AEC has conducted draws for the ballot positions in each seat.

This is of interest to political watchers.
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>>76693403
The Liberal Democrats are your Tea Party/Libertarians
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>>76692196
I just saw that Sex Party and HEMP are running a joint ticket. Pretty smart move, it should increase the sex part candidate's chances. HEMP is a pretty good meme and they always score a percent or so of votes.
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>>76693790
>Tea Party
They are not religious nut wankers m8.
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>>76693668
it's just voting for senate seats? will this matter for the up coming election?
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Anyone see the announcement where Labor BEAT THE FUCK OUT of Natropaths?

No more taxpayer money going to 'natural therapy' bullshit! VOTE 1 ALP.
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>>76693885
>[The Tea Party movement] has been described as a mixture of libertarian,[4] populist,[5] and conservative activists.

they're not all bible bashers, I don't think
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>>76693885
Tea party isn't really religious either though. It's honestly just whites clinging to their identity because they aren't brave enough to say they want a white country yet. You'll experience it if you let the boat people in.
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>>76693977
They are deciding the ballot order for all the candidates in every seat, house of reps and senate.

Being at the top is considered an advantage and will matter in close seats.
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>>76694001
They went through several phases, got astroturfed by the Koch brothers and now don't really exist any more anyway.
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>>76694169
So in SA

>SA Senate down from 34 to 24 columns. Column 2 Labor. 4 Greens, 6 Xenophon, 8 Liberal 14 Family First

This means that Family First is most favored to get these seats in the senate/house of reps?
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I'm voting Labor for the House. My local representative is a community god send, good Catholic woman and wonderful for the community. Couldn't stand another Libcuck government.

The real question is - who is a /pol/ approved Senate party to keep Labor in line? Thinking maybe Xenophon's lot, not sure if they're running for Vic senate though. Thoughts?
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can anyone post the full NSW senate ballot?
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>>76694169
Also what do the numbers represent?

>SA Senate down from 34 to 24 columns. Column 2 Labor. 4 Greens, 6 Xenophon, 8 Liberal 14 Family First

14 Means what exactly?
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>>76694396
That is the order in which the party names will appear on the senate ballot paper. Left to right.

So Labor and Greens will be on the left hand side, and Family First on the other side.

This will mean a slight advantage to Labor and the Greens since being on the left hand side is generally considered an advantage since people look there first.

But it is only a small one. People will vote for who they want to vote for.
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>>76694552
>14 Means what exactly?
It is the column they will be in on the ballot paper. It goes form left to right, 1 - 24.

Family First will be in column 14, which is in the middle-right part of the ballot paper.
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>>76694460
>the full NSW senate ballot?
I haven't seen it yet, but AEC is continually updating their list here:

http://www.aec.gov.au/election/candidates.htm
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>>76694453
Good joke.
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>>76694453
>not sure if they're running for Vic senate though
Full list in the pic at >>76691531

Personally I like Xenophon but not everyone agrees.
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>>76694899
How is it a joke?

>>76694936
Xenophon's mere existence seems to have seriously worried the major parties, which can only be a good thing. We just need someone to keep them in line, because let's face it, Labor and Liberal are practically identical and the Greens would burn the whole country to the ground to become king of the ashes.
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>>76695473
>Xenophon's mere existence seems to have seriously worried the major parties
This is what I like about him. People quibble about his ideology or whatever, but the factor that is most important is that he is dangerous to the system in a way no other minor party is.
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>>76692196
>there's literally a fucking advertisement in the ballot

I feel like I'm playing CSGO
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>>76695677
His policies are pretty rational and agreeable as far as I'm concerned.
He's a serious player in the SA scene and he's been pretty good in keeping everyone in line. Seems like a top bloke.

Torn between him and the LibDems.
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>>76694460
NSW senate candidates are up now:

http://www.aec.gov.au/election/candidates.htm
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Somebody teach me how to vote. How do I list all the cuck parties last?
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>>76697172
>teach me how to vote
See here m8:

http://www.aec.gov.au/Voting/How_to_Vote/
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>>76695900
NXT should get 2-3 seats in SA, vote LDP as well to give them a chance.
>>76696815
yeah cheers m8, why would the greens (and the 2 major parties for that matter) bother to run 12 candidates for the full 12 seats available, isn't that just a waste of time.
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>>76697971
>why would the greens (and the 2 major parties for that matter) bother to run 12 candidates
I don't know why they do it. It is annoying though since it clutters the ballot paper up. Maybe they think that each individual will attract a personal following which will get more votes for the ticket overall.

>>76697971
>NXT should get 2-3 seats in SA
m8 I reckon he is looking at a minimum of 3. Maybe 4.
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VOTE 1 for Meow Meow!

Fuck yeah. SCIENCE!
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>>76689370
Is Antony Green gay? He gives off a very poofy vibe 2bh.
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>>76698260
>Is Antony Green gay?
Yes, I know someone who saw him in a gay club.

>He gives off a very poofy vibe
I agree, but I thought it might just be because he was born in England.
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>>76698162
>t is annoying though since it clutters the ballot paper up.
It doesn't really since they're all just put in a column. The paper would still be the same size if they nominated 4 people.
>Maybe they think that each individual will attract a personal following which will get more votes for the ticket overall.
That is part of the reason. The other part is that having a long lsit of names gives greter weight to the credibility of your party.

>Oh i was gunna vote HEMP but they only had two candidates so I jsut voted Greens instead, don't wanna waste my vote.
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>>76698197
Are labor likely to win Grayndler with the new boundaries?

Or is Albo getting replaced by some greens smug dickhead?
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>>76698371
>having a long list of names gives greater weight to the credibility of your party
That is an interesting theory. Obviously not every party believes in it since many of them could nominate more candidates if they wanted to.
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>>76698442
The new boundaries aren't that much of a factor. I reckon Albo will win.

Greens will win Grayndler once Albo retires.
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>>76698442
Albo will win easily, his personal vote will ensure he gets 50% in his own right. When Albo retires one day, that's when the Greens will strike.
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>tfw KAP isn't running a candidate in your electorate this year

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>76698611
>>76698638
You never know, the Greens could win it this year. Grayndler is a very left wing seat, and a lot of progressives are disappointed with Albo over his support for boat turn backs, among other things.
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>>76698852
>the Greens could win it this year
They could. Albo is still too popular though I think.

It will be interesting to see whether Liberal Party gives Greens their preferences or not.
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>>76698525
> Obviously not every party believes in it since many of them could nominate more candidates if they wanted to.
They really couldn't. A lot of these microparties really are just the bare minimum 500 people to be a registered party and of those 500, many are senile old people who got tricked into signing up just for registration purposes. Also, many microparties REALLY ARE jsut front parties for a bigger minor party. Science Party and Cyclist Party are the same for example. LDP used to be the masters at this. Smokers Rights, Stop The Greens, Sports Party, even the Motoring Enthusiasts were all part of the LDP conspiracy except lol Ricky Muir went rogue. Just looking atht he NSW ticket now I suspect Drug Law Reform and CountryMinded could be LDP front parties, but with the senate voting changes tehre is a lot less incentive to do this.
Then, to stand, you have to convince people to part with the $300 or so it costs to be included on the ballot. Everyone knows that is money down the drain and the party usually only has enough of it's own finances to pay for one or two.
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>>76699157
>It will be interesting to see whether Liberal Party gives Greens their preferences or not.

I think they are preferencing the Greens in Victoria, so the Greens will probably win Wills and Batman off the back of Coalition preferences. Not sure about NSW though.
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>>76698197
Wow. He actually sounds super based.
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>no good candidates in my electorate

Just fuck my democracy up pham
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>>76699217
So correction from this, based on this >>76699546

It costs $1000 to run as a candidate.
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>>76699546
>based
He sounds like one of those "rationalist" wankers.
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>>76695719
I want to vote for 420 get the money
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>tfw SA
the ballot isn't very good this year tbhwyf
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>>76700752
>SA
It is pretty exciting in SA this year with Xenophon Team looking to fuck shit up everywhere m8.
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>>76700805
True, but I'm not exactly a fan of his party.
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>>76699812
>All those independents wasting a grand to get 0.001% of the primary vote.

wtf
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>>76700908
I do not think he is perfect m8 but it is Labor and Liberal who he is fucking up so I am loving it.
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>>76689370
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>>76701073
Pauline is a good Australian that has had her name dragged through the mud by the two main parties.
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>>76701073
I am liking her chances this year. She has been getting lots of publicity.

I think she will do it.
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>>76700987
Yeah, idiots.

>>76699854
Well if you'd rather support a bunch of emotional feelers be my guest. The Arts Party is on the ticket too.
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>>76701227
She is redpilled like you wouldn't believe
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>>76701265
I like that shirt.
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>>76701294
m8 what kind of person changes their name to something as stupid as Meow-meow whatever the fuck?
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>>76701073
column 24 RIP

>>76700011
one nation are literally the only party I have seen that speaks up about plane immigration and reducing immigration overall. Not just 'MUH BOATS'.
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>>76701033
Fair enough m8, I don't like either major party either. But in saying that, I hope that Based Cory Bernardi is re-elected.
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>>76701407
Sustainable australia also speaks up about reducing overall immigration
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>>76701429
>I hope that Based Cory Bernardi is re-elected
He is number 2 on the liberal ticket so he will definitely get in m8.
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>>76701488
Do they call out white genocide though?
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>>76701299
>>76701265
>>76701227
>>76701073
A friend of mine works at the Courier Mail. This was her Hanson encounter.

tl;dr Hanson rants for 5 minutes about the media without being prompted.
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>>76701531
Good to hear m8. Would like to see my boy Bob Day re-elected too.
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>>76701610
Hanson is based. Don't forget she got sent to prison on bullshit trumped up charges brought against her by Tony Abbott and other scumbags who opposed her.
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>>76701666 (devil trips checked m8 it is a sign)
>Bob Day
No we can do without him. He is just another Liberal Party guy really.
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>>76701610
No, your degenerate luegenpresse mate got her shit pushed far up her ass and was exposed for what she is - a scumbag who would have just written a piece about how Pauline Hanson hates all 'half-asian, Muslim, overseas raised rabble'. She basically just confirmed everything Pauline said to her.

If you'd been as trashed as Pauline you'd do the same thing. In fact, I think you probably wouldn't even bother giving any interviewers the time of day.

She is a true Australian and deserves far more than what this country's politicians and media have done to her.
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>>76689370
Ignorant Ausfag here.

Which party wants everyone to have guns? As much legal guns as possible. Especially if high calibre, fully automatic, or capable of firing explosive shells.
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>>76701587
Dunno m8. Doubt it
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>>76701791
how do i give my vote to hanson in this election? i admit that i havent given a fuck about our politics because it's so fucking blurry and it feel like both sides are essentially the same thing. someone just tell me who to vote for.
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>>76702051
Well said m8.
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>>76702064
LDP & shooters and fishers
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>>76702064
Shooters and fishers party I'd guess
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>>76702134
>how do i give my vote to hanson in this election?
Depends what state you are in. If you are in Queensland you can vote for her in the Senate.

There are also One Nation candidates running for the senate in most other states.
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>>76701849
Nah, I think he's alright. He and his party are like a more conservative alternative to Liberal imo.
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>>76702064
>ausfag

calling yourself an ausfag is not only cringey but also redundant.
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>>76702199
>Shooters and fishers
No, LDP is better for guns. Shooters and Fishers have cucked out on guns for self defence.
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>>76702051
>>76702159
>a scumbag who would have just written a piece about how Pauline Hanson hates all 'half-asian, Muslim, overseas raised rabble'. She basically just confirmed everything Pauline said to her.

Here's the article if you want to read it. Please tell me where the bias is.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/federal-election/pauline-hanson-campaign-launch-targeted-by-antiracism-protesters/news-story/2effe2a2536741f7d0e026529529c775?nk=6f5291a260c1c748368e9b18bf0cea98-1465539201
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>>76702460
This bias was in her tone on that Facebook piece m8. She laid herself bare. An ugly, ugly sight.
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>>76702064
Liberal Democrats. Shooters and Fishers are pretty much only pro-gun for hunters and farmers. Liberal Democrats support owning firearms and other weapons for self defense.

Watch this quick video by them for more info and tell me what you think - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YuI05LmlqE

Also the leader of Liberal Democrats did an interview with the NRA on their gun laws within Australia video and he called Australia "A nation of victims" because of the current anti-gun laws. Here is that video too -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYrMlMgVasY
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>>76689370
>>76689582
>>76689724
>>76689786
>>76689971
>>76690019
>>76690051
>>76690363
>>76690632
>>76690774

>Same id

Fucking Aussies.
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>>76702522
The Facebook piece was friends only. The actual newspaper article read by thousands more people contained no inflection or opinion on Hanson, merely direct quotes from her and the police. if anything the protesters are the ones that look bad.
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>>76702219
well as a queenslander, she has my vote then
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>>76702723
That guy is a faggot m8.
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>>76702812
You can volunteer to help out on election day too if you want m8.

Hand out some How to Vote cards.
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>>76702786
>The actual newspaper article read by thousands more people contained no inflection or opinion on Hanson
Looks like Pauline's masterful dressing down worked then. Got the journalist to be honest for once. She had to do her immature narcissistic venting on Facebook instead.
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>>76702994
You can't pre-empt what would've been written. That makes you as stupid as Pauline.

Please, pull up ONE mainstream media piece that paint Pauline Hanson as a racist. ONE

Can you do it?
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>>76703109

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/i-want-to-protect-my-country-too-pauline-hanson-from-you/news-story/31a2dc981fc5515290ecc3417ef6d62d?nk=69f6c91b7089a943134b527f9ef0a64a-1465539951
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>>76702460
Pauline wasn't wrong though. Your mate's article was basically just about how the protesters came and complained about racism with a very brief 100 words at the end about what Pauline had actually said.

And then in her FB post she's framing it as if Pauline was 'attempting to intimidate' her by staring her down. Get fucked. She's standing up for herself to the people that have basically ruined her bloody life. Good on her.

Your mate is a race-mixing pedophile-worshiping mutt and frankly I'm confused as to why you are even on this website.
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>>76703109
>Please, pull up ONE mainstream media piece that paint Pauline Hanson as a racist. ONE
How fucking thick are you cunt?
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>>76703268
>Opinion piece in a lifestyle magazine
>Didn't ever call Pauline racist, just quoted from others
Ok, good start, how about an actual news article?
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So what party most aligns with my values?
Every Australian party seems to suck in almost all their policies.

>No refugees/mass immigration
>No guns
>Maintain current healthcare system
>Legalise trivial shit like gay marriage and weed
>invest in renewable energy / nuclear energy
>infrastructure upgrades focusing mostly on public transport
>better internet
>none of this gender quota bullshit in jobs/any diversity crap
>remove loop holes that allow the elite to dodge tax
>data retention laws removed
>against TPP
>tax on stock/other financial investments that don't produce anything
>conservative social policies, but Keynesian economic policies.
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>>76703707
>Didn't ever call Pauline racist
You argue in bad faith m8.
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>>76703707
>Please, pull up ONE mainstream media piece that paint Pauline Hanson as a racist
>Didn't ever call Pauline racist, just quoted from others
That was absolutely textbook moving the goalposts. I'm almost impressed.
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>>76703727
Xenophon.
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>>76703727
Or alternatively FLUX.org
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>>76698442

the boundaries didnt change that much. they did push me out of grayndler and into watson. out of one safe labor seat and into another. greens wont win it.
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>>76704014
Flux is "Lets do online polls to pass law"
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Apparently Pauline Hanson drove a monster-truck today. Pretty impressed desu
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>>76704276
She is based as fuck

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/pauline-hanson-drives-monster-truck-over-opponents/3042711/
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If you're a QLDer and you don't vote for P A U L I N E, you should probably hang yourself for being a traitor
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>>76704189
That's Direct Democracy, a seperate party. Flux allows horse trading or votes and accumulating votes for issues that matter to you. >>76703727 Could vote for all the issues that matter to him.

Anyway, jsut found this.
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>>76704584
You're a fucken Greens shill, aren't you?
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>>76704584
I honestly mostly relate to the green party but I absolutely could not live in a society with their social policies.
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>>76704584
I think there should be surveillance but no care given to people looking at horse porn, pirating media, or hitting their mate up on FB for a bag of weed.
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>>76704366
topkek

wouldvote/10
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Pic related are all the One nation candidates at this election.

They are running for Senate in all states, but they don't have that many lower house candidates this time.
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>>76704778
How do their social issues affect you? I mean you already dismissed gay marriage as trivial.
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>>76704958
It is trivial and being forced as a wedge issue for a marxist agenda
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>>76704863
>We should have surveillance of everything except the laws I break
Yeah ok good luck with that.
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>>76704942
Crying shame that they don't have any candidates in ACT.
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>>76705042
Facts are racist anon.

Though having seen those graphs, I think some sort of heterosexual-based "I am the 99%" pics should be passed around for shits and giggles.
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>>76705061
Ideally they would run in every electorate in the country. But they don't have enough members any more. And the more candidates you run the more risk there is that one of them will turn out to be a nutter who embarrasses you during the campaign.

ACT is not friendly ground for One Nation though.
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>>76705054
I don't do that I just think it should be for terrorism and other things that are serious
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>>76705042
>Marxist agenda
I'm sorry I'm confused. Is gay marriage going to promote dialectical analysis of society?
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I sense a Labor/Greens Government.

Can you feel it?
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>>76705289
>Terrorism
>Kills 0.5 people per year on average in Australia.
>Convincing media companies that terrorism is a big deal compared to the money they lose through piracy

Good luck mate.
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>>76705366
>Can you feel it?
Nah coalition will win. small swing against them.
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>>76698197
I just looked at this cunt and i'm 90% he's a fucking weaboo.
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>>76705366
nah, libs will stay in but it might be close
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>>76705301
>t. Dictionary
Your towering intellect emasculates me anon
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>>76705301
Yes. Because classical-marxism only affected shithole russia because the workers in industrialized nations had a great standard of living, such as access to cars.

so they switched tactics and now we have cultural-marxism, which is the rgeens and American bern victims.

>>76705398
>Having to convince media companies to pass surveillance laws

U wot m8?
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>>76689370
Who is running in logan queensland?
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>>76705466
There's no way Australians are going to vote in the out of touch, moron Turnbull. He wasn't voted in in the first place and he won't be this time.
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>>76705479
No one seems to know what the fuck they mean when they throw around 'marxism' 'marxist' and allt hat shit, expecially when they use it as a derogatory adjective.

Marxism, as I know it, is an outdated system of sociological analysis, with most academics preferring Post-structurialist approaches.
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>>76705301
One of the goals of Marxism is to live in a world or society free of religion. Gay marriage is the tool that is being used to achieve this, by forcing Christianity to bend over backwards for a tiny minority of society and in the process it is being ridiculed and shamed.
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I heard the brits are about to leave the eu so there is a free spot for an anglo country if you guys want to join our cool club
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>>76705722
You talk like a faggot you pseudo-intellectual piece of human garbage. Fuck off.
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>>76705722
Your melbourne is showing
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>>76705722
I also find it to be a buzz word, but since it is a buzz word to describe things I can recognize and verify ("progressive" left social policies of all stripes) I view quoting the dictionary to be a waste of everyone's time.
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>>76705528
>Yes. Because classical-marxism only affected shithole russia because the workers in industrialized nations had a great standard of living, such as access to cars.
You're thinking of socialism.

>so they switched tactics and now we have cultural-marxism, which is the rgeens and American bern victims.
Wait what? Whose 'they' The Greens? They weren't in Russia.
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>labor has foreign language ads
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-08/labor-migrant-multi-lingual-ads/7481902
>>76705674
people don't vote for the party leader they vote for the party
>>76705722
get a load of this guy
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>>76705764
get fucked you creepy bastard...we are leaving because we want to destroy the EU

australia is commonwealth

they have >DESIGNATED SLEEPING ROADS

they dont need muslim qoutas also
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>>76705722
Do you go around alerting everyone on 4chan that calling people fags is actually referencing a bundle of sticks?
That sounds like something you would do.
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>>76705928
>labor has foreign language ads
It won't be long until Liberals do too.

This country probably can't be saved now.
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>>76705722
>he paid thousands of dollars and spent years at university so he could debate about the definition of marxism with teenagers on 4chan

LEL
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>>76705923
Socialism and Marxism are the same.

Why would the russian marxists change tactics if they succeeded there?

You've got a lot to learn.
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>>76705749
>One of the goals of Marxism is to live in a world or society free of religion.
I can only imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLgYAHHkPFs
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>>76705764
also if that pic was real...australia would be rich as fuck being inbetween europe and america so they would have no need to join you
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>>76704958
Because their apologetic, refugee loving, trans accepting, sex positive philosophy will be the end of society.
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>>76706061
>Socialism and Marxism are the same
They're really not.

>>76705872
Buzzwording it will make it meaningless and irrelevent, you should jsut stick with 'left wing'
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>>76705764
they are probably trying to lure us into the EU by inviting us to eurovision every year
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>>76704778
So you're an anti-gun faggot? The greens are the ones who started the whole "Lever actions are BRAND NEW RAPID FIRE TECHNOLOGY" shit. They also posted a map showing the amount of firearms in each neighbour hood which in turn caused a ton of break ins because they gave them a fucking map. Usually that data has to be requested from the police and they can reject you, the greens requested it then shared it with everyone.
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>>76705722
Just realised this is the same anti-Pauline pro-Greens shill as before.

Get the fuck off this board you mongrel bastard.
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>>76701610
>half asian muslim admits to being ignorant and not actually being there for the speech
>Pauline says if you actually listened to my speech you would know that I said nothing racist etc etc
>half asian muslim says I am everything Pauline Hanson hates

how come leftists are so fucking retarded it just blows my mind
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>>76706223
>Just realised this is the same anti-Pauline pro-Greens shill as before
Yeah he is the snarky cunt who always tries to argue the ABC isn't biased.

A real dishonest cunt. Argues to win rather than to get to the truth of an issue. An absolute cunt.
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>>76705366
>>76705411
>>76705466

Both Labor and Liberal/Nationals are preferencing the greens. If you vote Labor or Liberal, you are voting for the greens too.
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>>76691531
Is Hinch still alive? I thought he died of cancer a few years ago?
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>>76706223
Nah he should stay, soon he will neither be with them or us but only one side will make sense.
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>>76705722
Do you wanna know how I know you've been indoctrinated by your Uni?
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>>76693582
>so it's more like America
>implying that's a good thing
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>>76706345
I swear I heard this too.
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>>76706345
No m8 he stole some poor kids liver at the last minute and got a few more years.
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>>76706155
>you should jsut stick with 'left wing'
As if the left and right distinction isnt tribalism getting its filthy hands all over everything already.

>Socialism and Marxism are the same
>They're really not.
I agree with you, but it's not a particularly strong point to make because it turns out that all the socialists are also "marxists" (the regressive left).

If you dont like the conflation I suggest finding a bunch of socialists who dont support mass immigration and hysteria driven, race-related laws and give us a list.
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>>76706342
that's why you never straight up vote for any of the major parties
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>>76705722
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Just knocked off and ordered a pasta and pizza.

Gonna wank off and probably have an early one

Everyone else got plans?
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>>76706972
>ordered a pasta and pizza
Where from m8?
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>>76707014

Local place, not a chain store.

Brisvegas
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>>76707086
>Local place, not a chain store
Good move m8.

I got the worst pizza and garlic bread from Domino's the other day.
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>>76707014
Had a pizza from dominoes last night and it was absolutely terrible. Too salty to handle.
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>>76707176
>dominoes
How do those cunts even stay in business?
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>>76707143

Dominos a shit

It doesn't matter how much you spend on a pizza from there it will still be shite

>>76707176

Menulog usually has good local pizza joints. More expensive, $20 for a pizza but it is loaded with good cheese and meats or whatever you want and tastes not like anus.
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Anyone here just given put on life because boomers have off shored STEM jobs that would gone to us to Pajet and his ten thousand inbred cousins?
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>>76705798
Blindly dismissing arguments as 'pseudo-intellectual' is just about the most pseudo-intellectual thing you can do.
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>>76707399
Good on ya m8. You pseudo-intellectual faggot.
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>>76706204
Yes I am an "anti-gun faggot".
This isn't America, gun's aren't illegally coming across borders and we don't have a plethora of stock on the streets already.

Obtain your gun legally and use it for sports shooting or such if you absolutely must compensate for your small stature and absence of muscle, real men fight with their hands.
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>>76707937
Do real men oppose oppressive regimes with their hands or do they get to do some kickpunching as well?
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>>76708184
name a single oppressive regime that was squandered because the citizens had guns?

You're an actual meme if you think that an oppressive regime would be put into power in a current democratic society without the desire of it's inhabitants.
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>>76707937
If drugs are coming through you can bet that guns are coming.
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>>76707399
Yes
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>>76707299
Yep fuck my life.
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>>76708384
>desire of it's inhabitants
You mean the majority m8. Its nice to know you think the ones who dont should be disarmed so they cant, at the very least, attempt to stop it before it starts.
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>>76707299
I'm hanging on by a thread of hope tbph. But if Labor or Labor/Greens win the election, I will completely give up on this country.
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>>76708634
So a minority group using violence to overthrow a majority elected government?

So you want to be a terrorist? What a great idea!
Maybe you can even enforce sharia law, just like your good buddies ISIS!
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>>76708860
>your good buddies ISIS!
Reddit tier banter m8.
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>>76708880
>nothing to retort with
>go back to plebbit

lel i sure showed him
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>>76708876
kek
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>>76708765
I will never be the type of fag who will abandon his country the moment a government that is Hillary-tier levels of corruption, negligent and identity politics driven. I will stick with this red land to the day I die.

However, there is no question that the Greens or Labor in it's tainted form getting into power will be disastrous. I refuse to vote for Libs, so guess I am on the minor parties in senate aim.
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>>76707937
People need guns for self defense. They should not be only allowed for hunting and sport.

How are you going to fight a criminal, terrorist or tyrant with your fists exactly when they have all the guns they want? Gun laws don't stop criminals. They stop only people who obey the law, as in, law abiding citizens. See pic.
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>>76708860
>So a minority group using violence to overthrow a majority elected government
The state is allowed to have X to enfore the law and the citizen is not allowed to have X to resist the state or defend themselves from other citizens that the state is unable to monitor 24/7.

If the state is forever benevolent it sort of works out ok. Do you think any state is beyond corruption?
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>>76706652
What event is taht webm from?
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>>76707937
>and we don't have a plethora of stock on the streets already.

Yes we do you stupid cocksucker.
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I don't want this thread to die please mates.
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>>76711235
Me neither
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>>76711235
Cunt, I'll never die on you
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>>76711569
>>76711692
Legends. Thanks mates.
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>>76711737
No worries, who voting for lad?
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>>76705042

>2003

I guarantee you those stats have changed a lot since then
Homosexuality was still somewhat of a taboo back then, these days it's praised and basically encouraged
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>>76711961
I will vote for Xenophon in the lower house, One Nation in the senate followed by all the small right wing parties. Greens last.
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>Elections
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>>76712045
Not bad at all desu
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I'm watching this movie Terminator Genisys. It is absolutely shit.

The actress playing Sarah Connor is terrible. John Connor has been miscast as some sort of faggot.
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>>76712045
Adelaide lad? I'm still undecided. My electorate is pretty consistent, yet also swings.
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>>76712168
>Adelaide lad?
Yes m8 I am in Mayo. I wanna see the Xenophon candidate beat Jamie Briggs.

I don't even care if she is more left wing or whatever. I just want to see the major parties suffer.
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>>76712045
Fuck xenephon
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>>76712279
You a young lib m8?
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>>76711991
3.5% rates of change as people age are unchanged
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>>76712279
What's wrong with Mr X, in your opinion?
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>>76712248
>>76712248
If I could, I'd vote for him twice. Lower house or senate? He's the lynch pin to Australian politics. It's not so much about seeing them suffer as it is bringing to light the true agenda. Metadata, TPP, he always bangs the drum even if it's potential political suicide!
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>>76712420
>he always bangs the drum even if it's potential political suicide!
Nah he is a bit of a populist, but I don't care. Mostly he is good.
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I just saw that I have a LDP candidate in my electorate.

I was looking at his facebook and he seems a bit too typical with his libertarian memes etc. Seems a bit too much like the LDP shills on here. I don't think I can vote for someone like that.

https://www facebook com/luke.dzivinski
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>>76712323
No an old lib
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>>76713169
fuck old libs
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>>76712352
He's a classic populist who will flip flop to whichever position serves his own interests best. Whether this is pork barrelling the rust bucket state or preventing another state from achieving something it will ask come back to his personal interest.

That doesn't mean he can't be constructive, but he will only act constructively if it aligns with his personal interest.
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>>76713336
This.

Also, what's the deal with the PNG students? Why did they assemble?
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>>76713226
Fuck south australians. You're nothing but a burden on the rest of the country. At least Tasmanians produce good food and electricity
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>>76713336
>He's a classic populist who will flip flop to whichever position serves his own interests best
No he is not quite that bad. He does this on some things but he tries his best to do what he thinks is right.
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>>76713368
What's with the random question about PNG?
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>>76713471
I wanted to ask it but also wanted to respond to your post.
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>>76713419
And that subjective approach had led to him holding a gun to the rest of the country's head for SA welfare. If the rest of the country refuses to fork out tens of billions to prop up SA it will use its senate seats to fuck us up
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>>76713544
I haven't been following it beyond the ABC's coverage was inaccurate
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>>76713336
I can see where you're coming from with this: he's so strongly against pokies/gambling because his dad is addicted to it, if you didn't know. But on the flipside, he has done a lot of good for my State, so he's not all bad. I'm not giving him a high preference - he's too centrist for me, and as you said, populist, but he isn't a scumbag.
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>>76713626
Well the rest of the country used its numbers to fuck up our manufacturing base by reducing tariffs etc, turning us into a rust bucket state. So you can all get fucked if Xenophon gets us some retribution.
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The simple answer is trimming the fat
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>>76713760
So the rest of us should prop up your shitty state with tariffs which hinder our economic growth? Maybe SA should diversify its economy and shift to industries which are competitive without modifying the market
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>>76713760
Also SA made cars had terrible build quality.
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>>76714029
>SA made cars had terrible build quality
Mitsubishi 380 was top shelf m8.

>>76713995
>Maybe SA should diversify its economy and shift to industries which are competitive
We are too small and lose too may people to the bigger cities in the east. It is a matter of scale.

It is no coincidence that the two states with the shittiest ecomies are the two smallest states.

We are looking at getting a nuclear industry started now though.
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