Should he have gotten a harsher sentence?
For nonburgers, this guy is a competitive swimmer from Stanford who was convicted of rape, but was sentenced to a maximum of 6 months in jail because being in jail for a long amount of time would be really bad for him.
>>76683032
No. Had he be a Muslim immigrant in Germany, everyone would blame the girl. Also, fuck women.
No shit he should have.
He should also pick up a less bitchy sport other than fucking swimming.
>>76683032
Daily reminder that the chick he allegedly raped had a boyfriend at the time of the incident.
>>76683254
Ahh there it is
>>76683032
he wasnt convicted of rape, he was convicted of sexual assault
>>76683032
He was drunk, not rape.
>>76683254
She has a cuck for a boyfriend?
>>76683134
Wait, but shouldn't both this swimcuck and the muslims get imprisoned? Why can't we hate and condemn both pretty equally? Germans shouldn't blame women for their rapes just because the rapists had dark skin, just like we shouldn't blame this woman for getting raped by a white guy.
>>76683254
Why does this matter?
Why get drunk to the point of passing out in front of men you never met?
>>76683531
since when does being drunk negate criminal acts?
>>76683425
Ah, my mistake. But don't you think that the circumstances warrant more than 6 months? This guy was clearly dangerous and it wasn't the run-of-the-mill breast groping sort of sexual assault. If he hadn't been interrupted, he would have probably raped her.
>>76683425
and attempted rape.
>>76683670
So there wasn't even penetration?
>>76683254
Did he watch?
>>76683619
It was a terrible decision. However, that doesn't mean that you can fuck whoever you want just because they make a dumb decision. This guy chose to sexually assault her.
>>76683736
there was finger and foreign object penetration but he couldnt manage to get his pants all the way down before the swedes stepped in,
is there anywhere I can read a full police report or court transcript? I am trying to find one on google but all that it shows is Cosmopolitan, huffington post, and buzzfeed articles.
>>76683793
What's the law here? Should that be a rape conviction?
>>76683619
A woman should be able to get as drunk as she wants around strangers even if she should be watching her little sister at a frat party without worrying about FUCKING WHITE MALES raping her you shitlord
>>76683032
No, his sentence will help off balance all the false rape accusations.
I hope that rape continues to have a more lenient sentence since they keep broadening the definition.
>>76683032
I am surprised at the reaction to this
College athletes are accused and convicted of sexual crimes all the time
The majority of the time they get off wasy because of the power of the university
Black white brown even Asian college athletes have used campus systems to get out of crimes
Why the big deal now?
she said he could finger her (she admits this), he did, that's as far as it went
>>76683549
Yea you're totally right. I just get so much enjoyment from seeing all the ass blasted liberals mad about this guy and still wanting to import infinite immigrants
>>76683873
they're their own crimes. technically not rape.
>>76683823
>“He stated that he was drunk but was able to remember everything,” the police report says of Turner. “His head was a little fuzzy due to the effects of the alcohol, but he consciously decided to engage in the sexual activity with victim. He was having a good time with victim and stated that she also seemed to enjoy the activity.”
http://www.si.com/more-sports/brock-turner-stanford-swimming-sexual-assault-rape-case
>>76683032
I don't think anyone actually knows what happened all people hear is
>RAPE
>3 MONTH SENTENCE
I mean, we know no details other than that.
>>76683032
Yes. He was let off lightly. I'm surprised that the "prison is a life altering event" argument meant anything to the judge. He should have been cognizant of the utter truth of that platitude
>>76683965
last time i checked the majority of immigrants arent rapists. those that are should be locked up.
>>76683892
Memes aside, you shouldn't expect to be raped just because you get drunk. I love getting drunk and I would hate to be raped.
>>76683951
She never said that
>>76683914
Maybe people are finally coming around to caring?
Legitimately? Yeah. He's an entitled prick that fucked up and should pay the price any other prick would.
But, since the media and SJW internet has shoveling it down everyone's throats that he's hitler (in a bad way) I want him to walk free and swim every fucking race in the goddamn olympics.
Rape allegations and convictions, guilty or otherwise, are always a life sentence. The amount of time a judge asks you to rot in jail/prison for is irrelevant.
>>76683595
Because if she says she was raped her boyfriend can't get pissed off at her for sleeping with another dude.
>>76684083
Even if it's 0.001%, it's not worth tolerating just to allow the others to bring the 3rd world with them in other ways
>>76683892
The world is a dangerous place. A woman has a right to drink and party, but you have to live in reality.
>>76683595
So he got a light sentence because the judge didn't believe there was an actual crime here?
>>76684270
I agree. Teach women to stay safe, but we should also punish rapists.
>>76684261
But two random swedes saw this guy sexually assaulting her.
>>76684392
He got a light sentence because the cucks of America think that prison is harder on middle class people than it is on the poor.
>>76683425
>>76683670
he was convicted of rape, because california is retarded and classes any kind of penetration, not just actual sex, as rape.
>>76683793
>there was finger and foreign object
this seems to confuse people. The finger WAS the foreign object. There's no reason to think he put anything else up there.
I had several separate people on /b/ tell me today that he shoved trash from the dumpster, or a pinecone, up her cunt. Morons.
(yes, I know, that's what I get for going on /b/)
>>76684270
Do she got a right not to be raped? Hope that's dumbed down enough for you.
>>76684694
>she
Women are things, so no
Yes, regardless of the pol memes he still committed a violent crime. Which sexual assault is classified as. Meaning at least 5 years should have been dished out
>>76684200
Is there an up vote feature on this 4chan
Friendly reminder that 6 months of punishment for 20 minutes of action is excessive.
Is there a picture of what this bitch looks like? Is she some fat cow?
>>76685063
>filename
>>76684261
She literally called tried to call her boyfriend during the rape. The boyfriend received a message on his phone, that was part of the evidence in the case
>>76685063
Anyone have dox on the dad? Age, job, education?
>>76684542
>Swedes
Going on their history of reporting rape...
>>76685279
That's pretty fucked. He got off easy
>>76683595
Getting caught cheating she needed an excuse. She regretted getting trashed
So what actually happened?
They were both drunk, she consented to getting fingered, but passed out while getting fingered and he kept going, and whether he noticed that she had passed out or not hasn't been determined?
>>76685390
Who are the women in your life?
Does anyone actually have a credible source for what really happened?
At this point I've seen 7 different stories that are all radically different. Jesus fucking christ schools HAVE to start drilling into kids heads that they need to cite their sources when making claims this controversial.
But of course liberals tactics don't employ facts, they simply use kike tactics to attack other world views.
>>76684554
Except this was a "she consented but was drunk and stuff" rape
versus the traditional black rape which is the "pick a target, beat the shit out of them, and rape them" rape
>>76685279
>Ch-Ch-uhhhhh-aaahhhddddddd I'm gettin dikkkkkkd right now, fuuuuuck Bryceeeeee your dick issss soooooooo muchhhh bigggggger than chadsssss uhhhhhhhhh chaddddd we're doneeeeeuhhhhhhhahhhhh
>Scrawny swimcuck found behind dumpster sexually assaulting a girl
>2 guys see whats going on and tackle the guy
>A victim and 2 first hand eye witness accounts
> HE DINDU NUFFIN
>HE A GUD BOY WIT GOOD FUTURE
>HE WAS OUT SWIMMING FOR JESUS
>6 MONTHS IS TOO MUCH PRISON IS MUCH HARDER ON THE WEALTHY THAN IT IS FOR THE POOR
Fuck this board is /b/-tier.
He was rich. Rich people can afford the best lawyers. If you want a short sentence, get some money.
>>76685498
There is no evidence that she consented, the rapist claims there was consent in his second version of the story (in his original version he said there was no consent, but he changed the story) but the victim is skeptical for obvious reasons. She was founded unconscious being humped by this dude by two witnesses who reported him. The victim's panties were taken by the rapist so when she woke up the next day she was wearing no underwear and there were abrasions and dirt in her vagina. The victim did not know the name or anything about the rapist, they were essentially strangers.
>>76685611
>Except this was a "she consented but was drunk and stuff" rape
or she was unconscious and not consenting to anything. i know reality can be a little difficult for you to understand but you can at least pretend to try.
>>76685660
A fucking white, blonde Olympian in training seeking a medical degree at STANFORD was getting ready to drop seed off in her fuckin cooch, a fucking woman would BE so lucky.
Victim statement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G1bNbKRfB0
>>76685611
I think it was a she was passed out but I still fucked her cuz fiver beers and some shots fucked me up, bro sort of rape.
>>76683032
>he
just look at that face
that is a transman
>>76683032
Is that Rachel Maddow?
>>76683032
That boy is young and pretty, he's gonna get passed around the showers a LOT, a few months is probably enough for him.
>>76683032
>Should he have gotten a harsher sentence?
Should have been executed.
I have no idea what this thread is about or what he did, but he should have been executed for being a white male.
>>76685780
so he dragged a passed out chick the entire way?
>>76685611
She was literally unconscious and on the ground. Not just "drunk and stuff," more like "passed out and stuff".
>>76685693
this. cry more poorfags. these courts arent run by UNICEF. yes it's not ideal, but our court system is competitive, the state thought they could hot dog this case and they were wrong, if anything people should be pissed off at the D.A. for not doing a better job
He was found guilty of the crime of being a cis white male. Two Minutes Hate!!!
>>76685660
Have you read the thread? He's roundly condemned here. I'm a pol outlier but I gotta say /pol/ is always right.
>>76685922
Ha ha, rape jokes!
Hilarious!
>>76686017
reminder that Orwell was a leftist
>>76686125
I am not joking.
>>76685955
i dont think the dragging was the part she objected to. pretty sure it was the sexual stuff with her unconscious body.
didnt she "come to" in the hospital after it happened?
im not seeing where people are getting this idea that she made it up after the fact, that she was raped, since it seems from what ive read about the case that it was the swedes and the police determined she was likely raped, and she didnt even find out what the official story was until later
now of course that doesnt mean the dude was lying either, it could be that the girl really just blacked out the whole experience and was more willing to believe the rape the story than the dude's story
but that isnt the same as her making up a rape story because she was guilty about cheating on her boyfriend
>>76683032
How long till this kid ends up killing himself? This society is fucked. This whole situation is a symptom of a larger problem.
>tfw more people on /pol/ were able to condemn this rapist than on /int/
is it backwards day?
>>76686125
Yeah? This guy single handedly brought about his own destruction
>>76685814
>Listening to this and imagining it actually having been Ashleigh Banfield being raped
He should not have faced any charges at all.
He was drunk, therefore unable to consent to any of his actions. If anything, he was the victim.
>>76685780
>unconscious the whole time
"Don't mind me folks, just carrying this body around the frat house for my swim team conditioning"
>>76685821
What a lightweight. I drank 12 beers, 3 shots and a Scotch and still walked home sober. Didn't even wakeup with a hangover.
>>76685368
>>76684917
>>76684583
Interestingly Libs say that the prison population is too big and the US legal system is too harsh on minorities.
In my opinion i think the guy should get counselling for a long time and not prison. Oh he should keep the record. Of course he should.
>>76686186
Never. Sociopaths only kill themselves when they are certain they have nothing more to live for. This kid will just continue to mooch off his rich parents and probably rape more discreetly from here on out.
>>76686175
I think the guy's story is bullshit because he changed it multiple times. First time he said there was no verbal consent and that she moved her arm in a way that suggested she liked it (wtf?) and then now his story is that he explicitly asked her in a very directly and she said yes unambiguously. What a load of phoney baloney
>>76683032
Absolutely, he should have. Swimmer tend to be douchebags. At least his name is ruined. I seriously don't think anyone would ever hire him.
>>76686284
i think they meant that she was blacked out in terms of memory
thats happened to me before, woken up with no recollection of things i did but people told me i assuredly did them
no reason both the girl and the guy cant have been telling the truth if thats what happened, but the dude's side of the story is a little suspicious
>>76686284
she was unconscious while he was assaulting her. that's literally all that matters.
>>76686320
>Interestingly Libs say that the prison population is too big and the US legal system is too harsh on minorities.
They generally say this in terms of non-violent crimes such as drugs and petty theft. Rapes go underreported almost universally. But speaking of the US legal system being harsh on minorities, minorities falsely accused of rape have spent years on prison based on no evidence except some white girl saying so.
>>76686320
Yeah. I've done drugs and drank and still managed not to rape too. These cheeseheads with their "the drink made me do it"
>>76685566
your mom faggot
>http://www.inquisitr.com/3136294/baylor-football-head-coach-art-briles-fired-over-sam-ukwuachus-sexual-assault-on-his-ex-jacquelina-wonenberg-university-president-ken-starr-steps-down/
>Sam Ukwuachu
>Black
>Football player at Baylor University
>Rapes a woman and gets six months
>Radio silence
>>76683032
kek. I could care less about this shit. niggers are raping men and women at gunpoint and no one gives a shit. One dude fucks mattress girl 2.0 and it's a quake in the earth. Fuck this gay earth.
>>76686495
I wonder why she would leave the party with this guy? These rape cases are way to much he said she said. Judge has balls of steel.
>"I awoke bloody and bruised and completely disoriented, I was so afraid at what had happened"
I mean...........has anyone actually never felt this way?
>>76686533
Calling ppl cheeseheads isnt very nice
>>76684153
In fact she did - read her own statements.
seems like a stand up guy otherwise. there's no benefit to throwing a man like this in jail
>>76683032
What difference does it make? In the unlikely event he survives prison, society will never forgive and forget. 6 month or 15 years, either way suicide is the best option he has now.
>>76686495
There is no evidence of that. The swedes came to her aid after 20 minutes. She could have passed out without his knowledge as he was also drunk.
If this was 1979 at Stanford the two other guys would have probably joined in instead. Crazy
>>76686768
mmm nope. she did say that he claimed that. try learning too read, faggot.
>>76686848
>There is no evidence of that.
other than the witnesses and the cops finding her passed out.
>>76683032
Isn't he on the sex offenders registry for life?
That's essentially a life sentence. For what he did that seems like actual overkill.
Or is that only for kiddy fiddlers?
>>76683032
Disnt jameis winston rape a bunch of girls. That blew over fast
>>76686920
>learning too read
kek
>>76687115
One was a star quarterback. The other is a no-name swimmer
>All these white knight faggots
if you read her letter and still thinks she's a victim you're a gullible dope
>>76686848
>She could have passed out without his knowledge as he was also drunk.
She had bruise marks and pine needles in her vagina. She literally fell to the ground when she passed out, there's no way he didn't notice. I mean, shouldn't you at least ask, are you OK? if a girl falls over
>>76686954
When you are seriously intoxicated you could be awake on the ground responding to others and pass out within a few minutes if drunk enough and tired enough.
Just last week I found myself passed out in a car with a sandwich at a local market. Didn't remember buying the sandwich or even ordering it. Had to open it to see what it was. Point is. I was sober enough to walk in to a store buy a sandwich and walk to my car immediately pass out from being drunk and then not even remember doing any of those thing.
Well if he went to Stanford he has to be smart just probation is fine
>>76687076
Exactly this.
Yes, he will be on the sex offenders register for life. Life will not be worth living, everyone will remember who he is in 6 months and he'll kill himself. Everybody wins
>>76687176
It's the /r9k/ autists leaking onto this board
>>76684542
Eyewitnesses are fucking useless
I wouldn't trust them (nor would I trust the rapist).
>>76687176
Everybody in the jury believed she was the victim when presented with the evidence in court. Literally the only people who don't believe her are the rapist and his dad.
>>76683549
I blame her for being a drunken slut.
Seriously if this shit is just going to keep happening and millenials can't handle their responsibility to consume alcohol safely just fucking ban them.
It's like letting retards have their car keys back at the bar.
Also - with this constantly happening have the morons that run frats thought about implementing some systems like security saying "Hey, you 2 drunk fucks, you don't leave together until you sober up" and maybe keeping their doors bolted open during parties?
Inb4 libertarians.
>>76687251
and? people saw him trying to fuck her while she was passed out. there is no time when that would be ok.
>They had consensual sex on the brink of consciousness
>The both pass out simo
>She goes blissfully into the sweet night in a white wine spritzer coma
>He actually goes into cardiac arrest
>Starts seizing
>Swede shitskins start kicking the poor bastard
>>76687290
Yeah don't trust anybody or take anything seriously lets all just do nothing ever because literally everything is a lie
>>76685001
It's called (You)
>>76683032
Nah. He's a good looking guy, athletic, probably intelligent. He's got potential.
>>76687203
You're assuming she passed out when she fell. Being highly intoxicated she may not have felt the pain as much as if she were sober
>>76687176
A lot of people didn't watch the trial and only knew of it through liberal media. He did make a mistake but he didn't rape her at most he kissed and fingered her and the kissing was while she was conscious and aware. The judge was a competent individual and gave a little it harsh but appropriate sentence instead of sending a kid to prison and ruining his life further.
>>76687076
It's for everyone that commits a sexual offense.
Though, any serious crime puts you on a "list" for life; just a different one.
>>76683595
because she went to a frat party and probably lied to her boyfriend about where she was then got drunk, fingered in her ass and had sex
that's the main thing here, she probably lied to her boyfriend about what she was doing that night and where she was
>>76683032
It wasn't rape by legal definition. He was not convicted of rape. Stop spreading lies.
>>76685279
>unconscious
>called boyfriend
Wut?
This story gets more and more retarded I hear it. Like chinese whispers.
>>76683032
>>76687353
People saw him nearly black out drunk over top of a woman.
>>76687466
All shitposting aside, quite this.
Go figure, if you get your fucking news and information on a court proceeding through Buzzfeed you might be getting a slightly canted story.
rape should only carry the penalty of paying a fee to the girl for the standard going rate of a hooker in that town.
unless she has a husband then she is his property and let him decide the punishment.
>>76687550
its almost as if the entire incident took more than 5 seconds. i wonder how that could be.
Real question:
How can a blackout drunk guy rape someone?
If two people have sex and they are both wasted, how the fuck can either of them be charged with rape according to modern law?
>>76686457
Why would evidence from either of them be admissible in court then? You have the police report that suggests rape, but could just have easily been a consensual thing prior to the bikerbros riding up on them. So, is it not, at the very least, plausible to think that with a blackout level of impaired judgement and motor skills, he was legitimately unaware? Being behind a dumpster is irrelevant, too. I passed out in a drive thru line one night. Dumb shit happens. It doesn't automatically mean he lured her off into his secluded dumpster lair.
>She fucking liked the dick and she's just afraid to say it
>>76687707
The woman is not the one penetrating the man. If she was, she'd be committing rape
>>76687707
because """""""men"""""""
women aren't accoutable for their actions because laws were mostly written at a time when everyone knew they were dumb baby makers
Why the fuck are people even believing this cheating whore
I think the judge was to some degree making a statement against mob rule. He gave a light sentence because he was tired of media involvement in these issues blowing them out of proportion. I don't blame him desu.
>>76687273
The American one lets people just google it right?
kek this is "light" punishment?
I'd straight up fucking kill myself if I was in his shoes. No joke.
>>76685773
>in his original version he said there was no consent, but he changed the story
he todl the police immediately that she consented to the fingering and responded favorably to the enounter. He has never wavered in this. If he had not admitted to it there would be no evidence at all.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/1532973/complaint-brock-turner.pdf
>>76687707
The definition of rape no longer includes being 'made to penetrate' (as in, a girl forcing you down and sitting on your dick)
only by penetrating the victim can it be rape
>>76683032
He got 6 months because there was no conclusive evidence that he actually did rape the girl and the only thing that can be established is that he 'sexually assaulted' her while she was unconscious eg humping her WITH CLOTHES ON
so sick of this gay fucking shit fucking women are destroying society
>>76687872
All the while being completely subject to mob rule. They will vote his ass out, watch.
>>76683032
The day Michael Cera went too far
>>76683032
it doesn't really matter
his life is over from this imo
>>76683666
Since women can be drunk and claim men take advantage of them
>>76687664
What do you mean?
If she was unconscious, how the fuck did she call her boyfriend? If she was conscious how was he sexually assaulting an unconscious girl?
>>76683032
Any nudes?
>>76688099
>What do you mean?
>literally not understanding the passage of time
nigger, please leave.
>>76688074
Dude's toast and even if he's not ACTUALLY toast, he probably thinks he's toast and his fucking mind is fried.
>Verdict?
Mother fucker better move to AK and start crabbin and eventually OD
>>76683531
Now that's something I don't get from a legal standpoint.
If you're drunk as fuck and fuck consensual, it's not consent because you were drunk.
But if you rape it counts as a crime despite you not being able to consent because you can't control your actions?
>>76688099
Read the fucking court document mate
>>76688038
Kek
>>76683914
He was actually caught in the act and there was no he said she said crap.
>>76685279
>getting raped
>somehow is able to call boyfriend
literally What?
if you're able to call your boyfriend during the 'rape' then i'm pretty sure you would have been able to run away
>>76688074
Seriously.
Not only is every single potential employer and neighbor going to see him on a list alongside child molesters, one google of his name will reveal he's the Dumpster Diver Rapist.
Short of a death penalty what more do you want.
Nigga will probably kill himself anyway - what else is he going to do at this point?
>>76683914
Because micro aggressive, rich, white privileged have gone completely rampant in this country.
>>76688274
I did. It doesn't say shit about her calling her boyfriend during the rape.
>>76683032
a kid who's so drunk he could barely function was caught fingerbanging a bitch so drunk she doesn't remember
why the fuck is anyone in jail over this? neither were really capable of making good decisions and no-one can really say what even happened. there is no proof he "forced" himself on her, so why sexual assault? even the girl says she has no idea what happened, which, realistically means she didn't her BF to find out she was slutting it up with some dude.
she wasn't hurt, no proof they actually fucked, no signs of struggle, no witness.... just two drunks doing dumb drunk shit.
the fuck is wrong with people. and before any bullshit gets said... read the police reports. they're available online and it's criminal that anyone involved was even arrested.
>>76688240
Nigga please explain how you make phone calls while unconscious.
>>76688274
>Pocket dial
>Modern phones
Yeah bullshit
>>76686127
kek OKAYYYYY FAGGOT
>>76688410
apparently she calle dhim just minutes before the encounter wiht the guy woudl have begun. I'm not sure on the chronology.
>>76687353
Was he drunk as fuck too?
He might not have noticed that she was unresponsive.
>>76688431
>no witness
except of course for the multiple witnesses that saw him assaulting her passed out body.
>>76688333
It's not the physical restraint that's raping her, it's the lullabyesque qualities of copious amounts of Smirnoff Ice and Rhianna flooding her brain that force her into some quadriplegic dick receiving trance
>>76688503
So she didn't call him during the rape at all.
Thanks. That makes actual sense.
>>76688462
you make them before you go unconscious.
nigger, how are you this stupid yet still typing?
Harsher sentence.
>>76684083
Last time I checked, the government owes its concern to the citizens that fund its activities. Not the appeasement of immigrants who won't take accountability in their own fucked society.
>>76687374
Eyewitnesses suck because they rarely see things how they happened
They'll get an overall picture, but the details are missed/filled in
Which is why you never rely on eyewitnesses as primary evidence
>>76688531
I'd usually agree, but;
>Two Swedish men
Alarm bells are ringing.
>>76688520
being ignorant is no excuse for breaking the law.
Nah, his life is over after this- It is already on wikipedia- he ain't never getting any good work now because of the controversy from this case.
>>76688431
What you have learned from this is to not have sex with drunk women. It's not worth the hassle. It will end badly at some point.
>>76688531
>multiple witnesses that saw hi
this is also strange. How did those bikers see anything at 3am?
>>76688604
So the trial was for the two swedes?
>>76688587
How do you not understand the difference between "before" and "during" you immense retard?
>>76688649
I don't know man. Those Swedes are probably experts at spotting rape by now.
>>76688333
That's not what the story claims at all. Don't encourage him.
The part that doesn't make sense is that she left these incomprehensible messages, and somehow is able to recall that she "hung up to cry".
>>76688738
im gonna guess, with their eyes.
>>76688653
No, but if they were both drunk as fuck and didn't know what was going on, then you can't blame either.
Logically.
A judge can make this decision and make new precedent.
>>76683032
>Your lies about your guilty actions will never spiral so far out of control that they 5evr ruin the reputation of a judge and some swimmer douche
>>76688653
Nigger what?
>>76688767
feel free to show me where i ever said during. i'll wait...
>>76683032
Mandatory minimum in California is 2 years.
Judge made an exception because "he's a good boy. He dindu nuffin."
Went to highschool with this fucking guy, did acid with him once. No clue how he got into Stanford.
>>76688802
>No, but if they were both drunk as fuck and didn't know what was going on, then you can't blame either.
yes you can. it's illegal to sexually assault someone regardless of your state of intoxication.
>>76688814
Actually I think this is legally sound?
Ignorance isn't a defense right?
>>76686769
Other than the sexual assault....
>>76688802
Except that wasn't the argument. The point was
>he a good boy
> prison is a rough place.
>>76686175
>more willing to believe the rape story
Literal confirmation bias
>>76686164
You think a guy who was 2x the legal limit was just carrying her around though? You think it isn't more likely that she walked with him there and laid down? I don't think they found any contusions on her head. He claims that she consented to finger banging too.
I think what probably happened was she drunkenly agreed to the finger bang and then passed out during and he didn't notice or maybe he did and kept going. Being passed out from alcohol isn't like being knocked unconscious though it's like in between being asleep and awake. It's weird.
So who's the girl that got pass-out drunk in an alley?
Anyone got a pic?
>>76688531
you mean the multiple witnesses that witnessed him drunk off his ass finger banging a girl that was blacked out.
how do you know she wasn't awake 30 seconds before that, saying OH YEAH FINGER BLAST MY FUCK HOLE
you don't. no-one does. they walked in on a situation and just assumed what was happening leading up to that moment. it could have been 100% consensual and we'll never really know because no-one was there when it started.
also, if you read the reports, the police reports not the slanted news reports, they surrounded the kid, and he freaked out, ran off, got not even 50 feet before they tackled him and decided to call the cops.
all without knowing if she had consented or not. or asking. or seeing any of it.
if you're shit faced, banging a chick, and she suddenly blacks out after having consented..... does is INSTANTLY become rape?
>>76688989
>You think a guy who was 2x the legal limit was just carrying her around though?
literally no one is saying that. stop with your retarded strawman.
>>76688989
when you black out from alcohol you basically are functioning but your brain isn't recording any memory of it
>>76689067
>how do you know she wasn't awake 30 seconds before that, saying OH YEAH FINGER BLAST MY FUCK HOLE
what does that matter? having previously done something doesnt give you consent to assault someones unconscious body.
>>76688503
she called him to let him know that while HE was at home MASTURBATING to CARTOONS in his parents house BROCK was going to FINGERBANG her SLOPPY DRUNK PUSSY and then hump her after she passed out
>>76688813
ha, jokes on you, I'm transitioning
>>76683032
>competitive swimmer
He should be in jail for that alone.
>>76688878
Did he try to rape you?
Can you green text some stories?
>>76688895
And how do you know she wasn't reciprocating sexual activity? She very well could have been responding up until several seconds before the Swedes came upon them.
If you're 2/3rds through, and she said "yes" through actions, and you don't notice that she's out in the last portion, then how is it your fault more than hers?
They're both equally to blame for being too drunk to partake in a mutually decided event.
>>76688842
This guy said it; >>76683032
>She literally called tried to call her boyfriend during the rape. The boyfriend received a message on his phone, that was part of the evidence in the case
>During
Learn to follow a fucking thread or read you reddit mong.
>>76688251
From a legal standpoint, it is rape if you are unable to give informed consent i.e. you are so drunk that you are essentially unconscious. If you are drunk but still lucid than its not rape. Of course when people don't remember, the line becomes blurry.
The defense's argument was literally "rape culture". This is a victory for feminism. I don't understand why everyone is so angry. I'M WITHER
>>76689258
>then how is it your fault
ignorance is not an excuse to break the law.
>>76688251
because males are rapists by default retard, unless they are specifically instilled with feminist values during their upbringing they feel they have a right to other people's bodies
you can't charge the woman in a case like this because women are not sexual monsters like men, there isn't some crazy, insatiable lust for sex and dominance in them
women are pure an innocent, men are not
>>76689141
let me get this straight.
>you are drunk
>girl is drunk
>girls says FINGER BANG MY FUCK HOLE
>you begin the fingering
>suddenly she passes out
>you don't even notice because you're drunk as hell
>OMG YOU SEXUALLY ASSAULT THAT POOR GIRL
seriously dude, get out of my country.
>>76683892
Maybe she also shouldn't have told him to finger bang her in the first place. She was cheating, and needed an out.
Out of curiosity, why is there so much "anonymity" regarding the girl. Even the police report I saw listed her as a Jane Doe. I'm sure her name or some info about her has to be somewhere but I haven't seen it, for some reason.
The only thing I know from sure from her stupid letter is that for some reason she had a boyfriend but felt the need to go to a frat party.
>>76689275
>claim i said something
>get asked to show me where
>show me where someone else said it
>Learn to follow a fucking thread or read you reddit mong.
you were saying?
>>76685605
Here's the police report:
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1532973-complaint-brock-turner.html
Here are a few details on the court hearings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H0jqfqAa8A
This is how I see it (but only from cursory reading):
>Neither were students at the university.
>The general consesus is that they both ended up at this house party for a while (ie, he wasn't hiding in the bushes waiting for random drunk girls, which would be easy if you intended to rape). Both were drunk, she was about 3 times above the driving limit, he was about 2 times.
>Two Swedecucks, both of whom had been drinking and were still slurring speech when interviewed by police at the scene, claim they spotted a man "thrusting" into a girl who was unconscious, this was behind a dumpster. They claim they approached and yelled out to him and he got up and run, they chased, tripped him, pinned him, and got police.
>Girl was unresponsive when they got to her, she was unresponsive verbally when police arrived (but it's not clear that she was definitely 'unconscious')
cont...
>>76689333
But the law is wrong here if it can be interpreted this way
>>76689371
that would legally qualify as sexually assault yes. you being retarded does not change the fact that you're assaulting an unconscious person.
>>76684083
But a large minority is. If you support mass unchecked immigration you support rape.
>>76687203
They determined she fell to the ground and not laid down for ficki ficki?
>>76689141
It's not previously doing something. We don't even know what they mean by unconscious. Like did they literally mean she was asleep or did they mean it technically. Because that clarification is important.
It's akin to
>Dude I'm starving !
>Child services over hears this and puts hour mom in jail for neglect.
>>76689226
No crazy stories really. He smoked a bunch of weed and wasn't very smart from what I remember.
>>76683032
Don't care its in commiefornia where drunk rape is a thing but pedofilia is a growing hip trend
>>76689371
Because I always run when having consentual sex.
One of the Swedecucks even CRIED. lol
>>76689451
It isn't the burden of the state to make sure every citizen knows the law. It's your civil responsibility to be aware of them.
>>76689371
The lesson?
Stick with 2D or go Full Milo.
>>76689380
so what if she had a boyfriend? having a boyfriend doesnt mean he owns your body, shitlord. she can do whatever she wants with her body and that is entirely her decision and stupid fucking men like you cant change that.
>>76685605
>>76689428
...cont
>Brock gives statement to police saying he met her at party dancing alone, asked to join, she said yes...they kissed...he asked if she wanted to go back to his place, she said yes and they left the party together (this is important because there's no evidence she was 'dragged' from the party, so she did at least leave with him willingly, and the 'dumster' was close to his home, so she'd clearly gone in that direction with him willingly). He says he digitally penetrated her and that's all, that she was into it and rubbed his back in pleasure.
>She claimed to have no memory starting moments before he claims they met dancing (interesting that she blanks out so conveniently moments before they meet). She claims she was "blackout drunk" at this stage - ie acting normally as a drunk conscious person would, not unconscious, but not 'storing memories'. This is common. She claims no memory up until she regains consciousness in rape-ward.
>She can't claim she didn't consent because she says she has no memory. No third witnesses can confirm or deny any of what either claim (they were strangers at this party of strangers, basically. She had been there with a sister and friend but they left moments before she met brock).
>If she was blackout drunk as she claims, he would have no ability to know this - as far as he'd have been aware she was just drunk and conscious. As a qualified psych in the case said, a blackout drunk can give consent, for all intents and purposes they're acting normally but simply aren't storing memories.
>She had a boyfriend at the time, so she has a motive to deny\lie.
I don't see why he should be charged with anything. There's really no evidence that he raped her. All you have is the fact that she was APPARENTLY (according to the questionable evidence of two drunk white-knights) essentially unresponsive by the time they found them, but that's not proof that she hadn't previously implied consent.
>>76689428
>she was about 3 times above the driving limit, he was about 2 times
that was at the time they were tested, presumably a few hours after it happened
>>76689571
How do you know the swedes didn't try to start shit?
>>76689512
>Shaohsuan “Steven” Fanchiang, a paramedic at the Palo Alto Fire Department, described Doe’s level of responsiveness when he cared for her on the scene at KA. Doe did not respond to the “shake and shout” procedure used to rouse unconsciousness patients and only temporarily opened her eyes after Fanchiang applied “painful stimuli” by pinching hard on her nail beds.
http://www.stanforddaily.com/2016/03/21/brock-turner-trial-continues-in-second-week-of-testimony/
Could have been faking it or could have been drunk out of her mind...as a paramedic, I would only be able to tell if I had been there.
The role of a Judge is to ensure fair punishment is applied to the current case/individual and see fair justice applied.
A judge should never use his power to "make an example" to others at the expense of another person with a inappropriate sentence.
What was done by the Judge was ethical and fair. He is a good judge.
>>76689639
Damn. Seems like she destroyed that swimmer's life so she wouldn't look like a slut.
>>76689692
What's your point? She was drunk, he was not significantly less drunk.
>>76688625
This the Swedes implied in their testimony that the guy was actually fucking her, which was of course proved false by biological evidence.
>>76689587
Not my point
My point is that the law is unjust and shouldn't be followed if you can pin abuse/rape on someone for several seconds of not realizing the person isn't conscious when previous consent was given.
I've woken up to GFs jacking me off. There is zero way that I would consider they did anything wrong to me.
>>76689394
I was saying you were a fucking idiot.
I asked the guy "how can she make a phone call while unconscious".
You interjected on his behalf.
Now you're back pedaling like a mong.
>During
>During
>During
>>76686345
She admitted she said yes.
What was that book, Philip K Dick I think, where they could "plug into" your brain and get eyewitness testimony by "viewing" the events with no bias?
I want to say Minority Report, I think it was that, but I might be conflating that with something else.
>implying /pol/ reads
Point is we wait until science fixes all our problems because robots will steal all human agency
>white guy finger fucking white girl
CAPT SWEDEN WILL PUT A STOP TO THIS!
>>76689603
They might have to revoke that right for their own protection.
>>76689639
Jesus, this guy is going to be labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life. What the fuck happened to personal responsibility? How the fuck are people complaining that he got a light sentence?
>>76689830
Ur right minority report. Precrime unit
>>76688240
You claimed she called her boyfriend "while the rape was happening" however I believe she called him during the party or something of the nature.
Either way she cheated on him because she clearly remembers making out with him and grinding with him. I feel bad for the cuck. It's not worth staying with a girl if she might do this again but he's probably guilted into it.
>>76689470
>qualify as an assault
it shouldn't. it's stupid. it's not assault she fucking consented.
let's strawman this to show how stupid you are
>you get appendicitis
>you give doctor permission to operate
>he puts you under
>OH NO YOU'RE UNCONCOUS
>YOUR PREVIOUS CONSENT MEANS NOTHING
>THAT DOCTOR TRIED TO MURDER YOU
if she consented to it, she consented to it. her blacking out doesn't suddenly turn it into an assault you fuckwit. now, if he continued to pound her love muffin for a while knowing she's KO, well that's creepy..... but she wanted him to do it.... so you know.... fuck off with your cucktarted bullshit
>>76689571
I always run when a group of drunken dudes surround me, accuse me of rape, and start making threats. how bout you?
>>76689748
How long after they stopped him did the paramedic arrive? 5? 10? 15 minutes? Saying she was unresponsive after the fact doesn't prove she was during or shortly after the alleged assault began.
>>76690001
Because women are special! It's not her fault she said "yes" while drunk, and it certainly wasn't her decision to cheat on her boyfriend! It was obviously the drunk racist bigot white dudebro's fault for being drunk too!!
The face of white privilege sexual abuse. Since when do they let rapists get a nice hair cut and change into a suit to redo the mugshot?
>>76690061
>her blacking out doesn't suddenly turn it into an assault you fuckwit
actually according to the law it does. having sex with an unconscious person in california is considered assault. lrn 2 read.
>>76690033
If he dumps her now (which he should - she's a slut regardless of her later victimhood) he will LITERALLY be Brock "Dumpster Diver" Turner 2.0