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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-07/china-pushes-plan-for-oceanic-space-station-in-south-china-sea

Reportedly the prototype/initial base will support 12 men. Then it will either be expanded or replaced so that it can support 33 men. It wil lbe nuclear powered and, contrary to earlier reports it will be a fixed seafloor habitat rather than a mobile submarine.

The official story is that the base is meant to facilitate deep sea mining. However even in very rough surface weather, deep sea mining robots can be operated via tether from a conventional sub loitering just 200 feet down.

There is no application I know of other than military which would justify such an expense. But then, 9,800 feet is many times deeper than the crush depth of nuclear subs, which is ~1,600 feet. A base at this depth would only be able to service much smaller craft, like deep diving research submersibles.

What are they building this for, /pol/? What's down there that would be worth so much?
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>>76679015
Jew gold
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China's complete lack of regard for human life means you can expect them to do crazy, unsafe shit for funsies.

Truly the most industrious people out there.
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>>76679015
UNDERNEATH THE WAAATER IN THE
SEEEEAAA LAAAAAAB
UNDERNEATH THE WAAATER
SEEEEAAA LAAAAAAB
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA
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>>76679015
Gold !
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>>76679268

There would have to be a vast, unusually pure deposit in the south china sea we don't know about. And there would need to be some reason robots couldn't easily extract it, operated by humans from a safer depth.
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The US government has built stuff like this in the past, but it was very small. Usually no more than 6 men. Also very shallow, around 200-300 feet.

The only US underwater base officially still in operation is only 63 feet deep and supports 6 people. So for China to build something that supports 33 crew at thousands of feet down is truly audacious and unprecedented. This is basically an oceanic moon shot.
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>>76679015

Under the sea, the birds have scales for feathers. I know. I know.

Under the sea the crows are white as snow.

Here we eat fish, under the sea, the fish eat us. I know. I know.

Under the sea the old fish eat the young fish. Up here the young fish teach the old fish.

Under the sea, you fall up. I know. I know.

Under the sea, men marry fishes.

Under the sea it snows up, and the rain is dry as bone. I know. I know.

In the dark the dead are dancing.

Away, away, come with me beneath the sea, away, away, away...
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>>76679230
>that one episode where Murphy gets pinned under a vending machine
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>>76679230
I wonder what crazy characters a Chinese Sea Lab would have
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>>76679015
Someone's gotta stop those god damn chinks.
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>>76679015
That is so awesome. It's not all that practical but as a work of art, the idea of an underwater facility is just classic.
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>>76679015
THEY ARE BUILDING RAPTURE
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>>76679015
I am 1000% percent positive that this is not propaganda, and that if build there would be zero problems with the quality of construction. I am an ordinary American internet poster and not a citizen of the glorious Peoples' Republic of China on a proxy!
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>>76680814

They've been getting pretty serious about their oceanic ambitions with deeper and deeper Jiaolong expeditions in recent years. Their interest in deep sea minerals is to master the ability to access rare earth metals known to be abundant down there before anybody else.
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>>76679015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Q8a2jmfMk
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>>76680534
rip captain.
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>>76679015
niggers can't even build escalators right and you'd trust them enough to go into a pressurized facility 9800 feet down in the ocean?
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>>76679015
>feet

Fucking Americans.
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>>76681011

That's maybe kinda fukken smart. Any global power needs to lock down some resource procurement or tech development strategy, and the two go hand in hand, like with US war/industrial tech and whatnot.
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At last.
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>>76681463

Pretty much this.
They better outsource this shit to some country, that actually has the tech to construct the damn thing, otherwise it's just going to fucking implode three days after completion.
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>>76680628

Nihao and Suk Dong Gu
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>>76682176
Japanese posts never fail to amuse
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>>76682056

They already have nearly a monopoly on rare earths, which happen to be the specific metals needed for all electronics, including stuff like electric cars, solar panels and smartphones. This strategy is certainly good for them but it's bad for the rest of the world.

A few years back China cut off rare metal exports just to show they could, and what would happen if they did. The response has been for Japanese and US companies to devise ways to use as little rare earth metals as possible in stuff that currently uses a lot, like electric motors, but we can't eliminate the need entirely.
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>>76682191

They're just gonna innovate in the classic Chinese fashion and throw dead/liquified human bodies at the problem until it becomes solved.
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>>76682176
Oh no it's emerald weapon!
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At last.
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>>76679135
Hopefully they murder every jew.
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>>76679015
Chinese underwater ghost base confirmed.
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>>76679135
A complete lack of regard for human life is what got us to the New World and the moon.

I encourage these sorts of endeavours. Who cares if there's nothing to mine down there. The glory is all you need.
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>>76682387

Neat. Got some FRED data or articles for me? Legit would read
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>>76679015
One of the luciferian gates
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>>76679015
seriously though- would you put your brain in a robot body?
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They know about the the coming comet impact that will wipe out all life on the surface. They will then proceed to experiment with implementing human consciousness in robotic humanoid bodies.
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>>76679015
They better invent a way to give me two robot penises
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Underwater Chinese ghost base
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>>76679015
>oceanic space station
>ocean
>space station

I literally can not tolerate stupid people.
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>>76682590
>Who cares if there's nothing to mine down there.

There is. It's just cheaper to do it with robots controlled from either a boat or a submarine in much shallower water.
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>>76679130
RARE
A
R
E
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>>76682595

Just google "deep sea mining", there's a lot of corporations getting into the game recently. A google image search for that string will show you the robots and typical methodology used.
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>>76679130
Here's your (You) just because R A R E
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>Made in China
tip top lel
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>>76682772

>Impliying they arent triying to make real life SPESS MAHREENS trough genetic agumentation research at this very moment.

This is what happens when your nation as a whole doesnt appeal to cuckolding. You get cool shit done, no matter the cost in human life.
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>>76679015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3gaI8WyWLQ

someone redo this with an asain accent
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>>76682971
>>76683056
Rarest flag on 4chan.
>>76676923
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First that above traffic bus and now this?

West is being left behind
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>>76679015
>>76682777

The Matrix was only half right. They missed the part involving the marriage of VR tech with robuts, so we can bang robut chicks and then do underwater science in our moment of robut clarity
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Maybe it's a genome bank so preserve DNA of the best races.

Down there they can do all kinds of experiments, like cloning people.
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>>76682590
>A complete lack of regard for human life is what got us to the New World and the moon.
You're fucking retarded.
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>>76679015
A superweapon to destroy the white race
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>>76679130
hi there ulrich
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>20,000 chinks under the sea
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>>76683117

This. If they ever finish building it, everyone sent aboard will die a horrible death within weeks.
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This may look cramped but it is in fact the largest single underwater base ever built. There were some installations consisting of multiple habitats on the same site, like Conshelf 2, that had more overall living space but this is the biggest single structure of its kind.

What China is building will be an engineering marvel and blow every past attempt out of the water (har har). To construct enough living space for 33 people at that depth is going to be a real feat.
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>>76683393

Then they will try again, and again and again until they get it right. Plenty of chinks to spare.
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>>76679130

Hey how can I get citizenship there? I have a high level job and two masters.... would your king accept me?
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>>76679015
>Then it will either be expanded
Read that as they will either be expended. Was not surprised.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmLcj-RIICk
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>>76683479
how do they build those anyways? Do they construct facilities on shore and lower them while modifying pressure differences or build them on the floor?
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>>76679015

UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>76679015
>Hello simon
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Here's the biggest American sea lab (the other one was French).

It had the first all woman crew, which the media named "aqua naughties"
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>>76679015
>China builds gigantic sea-labs, ultra modern cities, hoverbuses and gene-modification therapy
>all while America impotently bickers about gun rights and whether or not a 3rd bathroom is necessary
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>>76683614

Construct the modules on land, tow them out, then add lead or iron weights to a ballast container built into the structure until it sinks. Then smallest ballast tanks are used to fine tune buoyancy for a controlled, gentle descent.

No such habitat was ever designed to be expanded like the ISS until now, except Helgoland, a German underwater lab which had one extra module added. Pic related, I dunno if it counts as they took it out of the water to expand on it.
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>>76683650

Dumping more Tektite II pics because it was a fuckin cool design
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>>76683142
Was sea lab based off goon station?
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we cyberpunk now

JC! IT'S GOING DARK!
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>>76683479
Sweet Jesus that is next levels of /comfy/
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>>76681626
I read that in a burly Cossack accent
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>>76683924

Oh totes, sealabs are the top tier of comfiness except maybe for Antarctic bases. Go get Subnautica, you can build your own max comf sea habs in that game
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>>76683900

Sealab 2021 was based off the original show which was just called Sealab 2020.
[as] got the cels from the original show and used them to make their own show.
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>>76683924
Are you serious?

Talk about bad vibes environment. Think about it.
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>>76683287
It's funny, you only say that because you didn't understand what I said.
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>>76684235
do you even know what I'm talking about dork?
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>>76679015

they better not bring something worse to the surface. I watched Deep Sea Six and Leviathan
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>>76684235

DELETE THIS!
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>>76684483

Nothing that lives natively down there is capable of coming to the surface without dying. Their bodies are adapted to and rely on the high pressure, low temp environment.
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>>76684307
NEETS have distorted concepts of comfy from staying their room all day and using the computer.
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>>76679015
Hmmm
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>>76684378

No. Make more sense, leaf.
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CALM DOWN EVERYBODY CHINA IS JUST DOING A LIVE ACTION SOMA MOVIE
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>>76684925

Those outdoor sections were so disturbingly beautiful. Every time a huge silhouette swam by in the distance I shit my fucking robot pants. They knew what they were doing.
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>>76683479
How hard can it be? Calculate pressure, build entire structure with steel walls x thick, lower entire thing from a barge.
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>>76682641

Needlessly? Absolutely.
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>>76684925
Is SOMA good? Or just another walking simulator with jump scares?
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>>76679015
>learn english so I can go to US and work on STEM
>if Trump isn't elected US will tank and I'll have to learn moon runes to go to china
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>>76684338
No I say that because the people who settled the New World and went to the moon placed quite a high premium on the value of their own lives. They didn't do these things out of some sense of death wish, the men who went to the New World took every precaution to ensure their own survival the men who went to the moon weren't forced into their capsule at gun point.

We accomplished these endeavors through ingenuity and faith in our ability to succeed, not through callous communist human waves. There's a reason we sent a chimp into space first and not a man. Saying it was disregard for human life that got us there rather than strength of will and discipline is an insult to the people that did it.
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>>76685017

There are some complicating factors. The larger the interior volume of any single module, the thicker the hull needs to be, exponentially.

This is why the deepest diving subs are all tiny. That one James Cameron went to the Challenger Deep in had a crew habitat that was a titanium sphere just a few feet in diameter, it was a pain to squeeze into.

It helps that the Chinese are relatively small in stature but still, the modules they make this out of will basically need to be titantium, and no larger than absolutely necessary. Probably just enough that they can walk around with a few inches of head clearance.
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>>76685045

Almost no jump scares in the game. The fear is from how they fuck with you via the mind uploading mechanic. I don't want to spoil it for you but you have to do some messed up shit in that game to move forward.
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>>76685045
more atmospheric than jumpscares, actually makes you question a few things.
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>>76684572
Shhhh just let the guy keep dreaming about spoopy things.
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>>76683901
I can fucking hear the OST. Fuck.
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>>76682547
This.
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>>76685295
>>76685312
Thanks
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>>76684572
What about deep-sea AIDS?
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>>76679015
I hope they start publishing shit unknown to man thus far. They did it with Jade Rabbit, showing us the moon looks nothing like we thought.

They don't play by Uncle Soros' rules. I hope they find all the lost civilizations at the bottom of the pacific. Japan has underwater pyramids, why not China?
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>>76680534
One of the best.
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>>76679015

There is literally no stopping the Red Dragon.

I hope they let me live with them.
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>>76685322

Ok

>>76685502

Just don't fuck anything and protect your asshole from dolphins, they are nature's perfect rape machines
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Hmmmm not liking the look of this thread.

Can everyone please delete their posts and their 4chan accounts?
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>>76685523
>They did it with Jade Rabbit, showing us the moon looks nothing like we thought.
What are you talking about? It looked like the moon.
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>>76680534

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSx283jpJE
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>trusting the people that can't even make escalators and elevators properly to build a fucking underwater base that won't kill everyone inside
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>>76679015
Those islands Japan and China are arguing over aren't just barren below the waves there are huge oil reserves with some reports stating the same amount of oil as Saudi Arabia or at-least massive deposits anyway

As such it's high stakes for those involved it also means for China that it doesn't have to pipe line and transport though the middle east and though the very strategic straight of Malacca
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>>76679015
Just gonna leave that here. Food for thought.
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I wish america could progress through technology and science, not humanity and diversity.
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>>76686004

What's actually down there is almost weirder desu
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>>76680499
underrated post
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>>76686224
asians will eat this
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>>76679015
>it will be completed in 2021
oh god please
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>>76686102
>>76686114
>>76686156
>>76686179
>>76686224

... Couldn't we just settle for peaceful Mermaid people instead of those horrors?
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>>76686303
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>>76686324

We'd have to genetically engineer some.
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It's a little bit kawaii desu senpai
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>>76679015
Interesting read. Be crazy if they cracked into some crazy unknown resources down there
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>>76686224
That's how a vagina looks to gay people.
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>>76685220
Way to prove that you didn't understand. All those achievements by those highly valued and highly calculated men were built upon the many endeavours made before by the crazy people who had no regard for life. The aviation and rocketry pioneers throughout history reaching out into antiquity.
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>>76679015
Rare earth is at the bottom of the sea. China has used up large amounts of their rare earth. Its why they are pushing into Africa. Also they'll be doing illegal genetic and human testing.
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>>76686568
that's how a vagina looks to you b/c you saw it and thought of a vagina

prob what a zika virus vagina looks like
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>>76686156
Bro that's some living plant right there is what it is. Fucking kelp grew some nerves and a mouth or some shit
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>>76686003
>huge oil reserves
>believing chinese memes
They island disputes are to settle down populace that would be rioting against the chinese gov otherwise.
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>>76679015
>other than military

they're going to fight the fucking kraken or something?

given that you can't name any good reason for them to do it, you don't know that there is no application other than military, so stop talking out your arse.

the most likely reason is mining. they need resources and they want to get a head start on everyone else.

given chinese levels of quality control and giving a fuck, i pity the poor cunts who end up down there.
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>>76686825

Who fucking knows at this point. The deep sea is where God hid all his early fuckups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqXx4ozWxY4
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>>76686102
>>76686156
>>76686179
>>76686224

We need to talk about the bonus situation.
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>>76686834
Why do that when you can just shoot them and drop them into a pit or stuff them into a overcrowded prison. Who would they complain too?

If you think the reason why they want the islands is purely to ship political prisoners there your a fucking dumb faggot and should learn from Stalin on how to deal with dissidents
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>>76686874
>they're going to fight the fucking kraken or something?

No, probably it has a purpose similar to the "rock site concept", a massive military undersea installation the US government considered building in the 60s. Pic related.

It was to allow nuclear submarines to continue fighting back for up to 50 years in the event of the nuclear annihilation of the US. The base is there so the subs can resupply with food and ammunition.

>the most likely reason is mining.

If you Google image search "deep sea mining" you will see how everybody else does it, with tethered robots operated from a ship or a submarine in shallow water.

Given that they will be using robots to do the actual mining anyway, there is no good reason to put humans that deep if it's really just for mining purposes.
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>>76687340
Massive nuke-proof installations make my dick hard, I wish we still designed shit over the top and crazy like we did in the 50's-60's, I want a goddamned nuclear bomb-powered space battleship already.
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Example deep sea mining robot:
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These fuckers can't even build elevators
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>china building a sea lab

It will be a fucking death trap for whoever is unlucky enough to venture there
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>>76686568
you would know
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>>76687488

Mine too. But unlike a regular subterranean base, because this one's in the ocean it has free access to edible fish and other biomass. It would be a lot easier to sustain human life down there in perpetuity than it would be underground, where your farming has to be 100% self sufficient with no outside resources coming in.

This is the only way short of a colony on Mars that humanity could survive a cataclysm like global nuclear war which irradiates the whole surface. Seawater is excellent radiation shielding. Probably cetaceans like whales and dolphins would die as they need to surface for air, but there would still be many fish species that live in deeper water that would be unaffected.
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>>76686416
totemo kawaii blush
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>>76685586
how deep is that?
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>>76679015
This is one of the many reasons the west is failing.

Feminisms and jews have taken away peoples sense of adventure, the sense to go where no one else has.

They are doing it for the same reason america sent people to the moon. because it shows how far the world has come, how much humanity has made this planet it's bitch.
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>>76685220
>There's a reason we sent a chimp into space first and not a man.

Yup, there's also a reason that the USSR sent a dog into space before a man.
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>>76687778
Even in the event of a foodchain collapse, you could potentially farm fish artificially down there, still self-enclosed. I like the idea of being not only under the ocean but under tons of rock as well, double protection from just about anything other than cabin fever and internal strife leading to violence and population collapse.
Also I hate kelp.
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>>76684925
Inb4 China creates the WAU and fucks us all over.
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>tfw BIG SHELL
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>>76688403

China already is WAU.
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>>76686953
Why are you posting hillary on a deep sea thread?
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>>76679015

They cant even design a functioning elevator. These people are fucked.
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>>76682641
I'd be a robot tiger
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>>76688379
Yeah dude that's what I'm saying, the fact that you can farm fish and other sea life means that humanity could live permanently undersea if we really had to. Not just as a nuke shelter but for centuries or longer. The tech exists, it is just ungodly expensive to get established down there to where you can self expand.
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Do we still have any depth charges laying around?
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>>76688734
At that depth they would have ample warning before the depth charges reach them and they could just torpedo those motherfuckers. The US Navy just happens to be working on a deep diving 6 man fighter sub however
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>>76688708
The proof-of-concept working here on Earth would provide a damn good example of what could be accomplished on other bodies, initially for research sake but eventually who knows? We definitely have plenty of room in the crust for expansion if we as a species are going to become okay with living underground on a 'never come up' basis, though that brings to mind multiple scifi stories of underground people finding their way back to a mythical surface after some unspecified cultural collapse in the past.
Also this

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-752
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>>76688944

They wouldn't be able to do shit about it though.

>>76688734

Depth charges wouldn't be able to go that deep.
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>>76685228
To expand upon Anon's explanation. There are a couple more complicating factors.

First off is corrosion. We don't think about it much since we're mostly made of it, but water is a fucking solvent and oxidizer. Leave it on anything long enough and it will ruin the material.
My metallurgy knowledge is a bit weak when it comes to titanium, but I'm sure some shit like hydrogen sulfide (there's a shitload seeping out of the ocean floor.) would em-brittle the surface. All you need is a single crack or flaw on the surface and BOOM. The whole thing implodes.
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>chinks building underwater research stations
>ameripoop "leaders" crying on twitter

makes you think...
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>>76683236

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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>>76689365
Someone should tweet this to Trump
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>>76689365
we probably have them but just dont announce them to the world
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>>76687286
>It was to allow nuclear submarines to continue fighting back for up to 50 years in the event of the nuclear annihilation of the US. The base is there so the subs can resupply with food and ammunition.

it didn't, because who exactly is going to crew these submarine? a 50 year duration would put the average age of a nuke sailor in their 70s, the captain probably around 90 years old. and if the us is anhiliated, who exactly are they going to fight for, and who are they going to fight?

the navy thought about sticking polaris off the continental shelf. they got told to go fuck themselves. the rest of the research was for...mining and fossil fuel production.

>If you Google image search "deep sea mining" you will see how everybody else does it, with tethered robots operated from a ship or a submarine in shallow water.

that's not how everyone else does it, because literally no one else deep sea mines. there have only been explorations so far.

this is more than 1000m deeper than the png site. if they're manning it they may also be looking to future occupation to relieve overcrowding on the mainland.
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>>76687778
>global nuclear war which irradiates the whole surface

this is literally not a thing.
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>>76679130
>rare flag
>you already have it

Worst part of being a collector.
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>>76679015
They are literally making arctic biosystems from Helix. Immortals pls let me join.
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They found aliens like in the movie the abyss
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>>76689360
>First off is corrosion.

That's actually not the problem you might think. Large ships and submarines handle it using sacrificial zinc anodes, which by galvanic principles attract all the rust to themselves and are eaten away by it over time. They do need to be periodically replaced however. You are right that the ocean is a harsh, unforgiving environment and a huge part of the cost of such a facility is just the constant maintenance required
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>>76689506
>who exactly are they going to fight for
THE DEAD
>and who are they going to fight?
THE ENEMY
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>>76679015
Oh hey so now we're doing that Thing rip-off Leviathan in real life.
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>>76689492

Actually we do have one that is public knowledge, it's just really small.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6frb_mHzQ

There used to be dozens all around the world, but funding dried up and now we only have what is strictly necessary for marine science.
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>>76689506
>that's not how everyone else does it, because literally no one else deep sea mines. there have only been explorations so far.

There is physically extant hardware: >>76687532
>>76687491

It is a real thing that is happening, and tether operated robots is how everybody involved plans to do it.
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>>76682838
The construction is allegedly overseen by Cahjay himself.
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>>76688195
slightly deeper than 3416 feet
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Hmm. China, a place known for comically poor engineering quality control and construction standards, is going to build an extreme pressure habitat in a dark ocean abyss.

I can't imagine how this is going to turn out.
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>>76687488
>Did someone say Moon Base?
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>>76682590
Why does human life even really matter. Its worth is so artificially hiked up in western countries. How much do you think s human life is worth. I'll give you a hint it is far far less than the cost of a deep water submersable .
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Imagine one of the dudes going insane down there and starting a rampage. Nobody could get there in time enough to save everyone.
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>>76686953
thing in vid looks like a plastic bag underwater. not impressed
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>>76688297

It's scary because it's so true.

Over the past few years I've heard leftists say the DUMBEST fucking shit about space exploration, ocean exploration, even just general science sometimes.

It's the exact type of shit that ten years ago you would associate with dumb conservative southerners, yet it's dribbling out of the mouths of the people who are supposed so erudite and superior.
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>>76690150
Compressed to a small crumpled wet sphere would be my guess

>>76690313
>Newt gets his moonbase
>entire generation of lunarians born who can't ever visit Earth or their spines will crack like bamboo shoots
>they all die of organ failure by 35
We should vacation there with a rotation work-staff running resorts and shit, but fuck living on that thing unless you're a retiree living up your last golden years.
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>>76690659

Yup, this is why it's Mars or bust. The Moon is a good place for mines and factories but can never be a longterm home for humanity. Besides the health issues you listed, foetuses can't even gestate properly in such low gravity and develop birth defects as seen in mice rasied in Moon gravity simultation centrifuges on the ISS
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>>76686874
Launch torpedo nukes?
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>>76689986
as i said, no one is deep water mining. the pictures you posted are physically extant hardware for a project that is due to start in 2 years time in shallower water. which will be the very first project in the world. in png. as i also said. it's almost as if you can't read the articles you're taking pictures from or the posts that people are writing. it remains to be seen whether or not they can recover enough material for it to be profitable, and tethered vessels are still subject to the weather.

>how everybody involved plans to do it.

well, no, because apparently china plans to do it differently.
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>>76689767
The deeper you get the least corrosion actually occurs because of absense if oxegen and the lower temps means that it is more unlikely that activation energy for he corrosion reaction issnt met
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>>76690605

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY

"Let's take the whole future of humanity and feed it to nigs so nobody can say we're racist"
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>>76690605
That is exactly my point.

I have had more arguments than I care to mention with leftists as to why we should be putting more effort into space travel, and all they come back with is "we should just protect this planet, who wants to go to some other planet without our current luxuries" It annoys me to no end.
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>>76690903
>Launch torpedo nukes?

you don't need an underwater base to do that.
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>>76690876
>colonize Mars
>have to live underground
>tfw might as well have just moved to Coober Pedy, Australia
I really want Mars to work, but the paper-thin air and the stubbornly not-spinning core makes it hard to envision sturdy colonies there. It's too bad we couldn't have evolved when either Mars or Venus weren't shitholes, planet-hopping would have been much easier.
Alternatively, if we get oddly attached to the idea of underwater living, we do have Europa as something worth looking at I suppose, oceans are oceans.
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>>76691088
>tethered vessels are still subject to the weather.

This is a solid point, but you could operate them from a submarine just 200 feet down. At that depth all surface influence from storms is gone.

>well, no, because apparently china plans to do it differently.

If that's really all it's for, I do applaud their ambition. It's a whole-hog approach, no half measures.
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>>76691311

"We'll ruin mars like we ruined Earth"

Bitch what the fuck is there to ruin on Mars, it is a red desert
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I don't know why we are doing this

We should be spending money building more nukes to use to nuke Africa with
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>>76691433

Because you can't beat the US in space, not yet. So you're going in a direction we didn't think of and in fact more or less abandoned decades ago due to the difficulty.

It's actually cheaper than space, just way harder from an engineering perspective, especially that deep. It will really be a feather in China's cap if they pull this off, when the only US sea base is this cramped little thing in 63 feet of water >>76689878
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>>76680053

>build a base underwater
>63 feet deep

Why build something underwater if you can get there by pencil diving.
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>>76680499

Why does melissandre hate him?
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>>76679015

SEALAB 2021

NI HAO XIAN
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>>76679015
They're just practicing for space.

The deep sea is an environment insanely inhospitable to human life in which all necessities must be self-sustaining and self-perpetuating. Also, it's almost totally unexplored and there's potential for a lot of scientific research and access to untapped resources.
Figure out living at the bottom the ocean and space doesn't seem so daunting. But yeah, there's probably some definite strategic implications here, too. In any case, we're definitely gonna go full SeaQuest in our lifetimes, Star Trek's still a long way's off.
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>>76679130
>stein
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How do you build an underwater building. Like, how. I can't imagine.

Do they have CAT machines that walk on the ocean floor. If so how do they get them down there, and how do they get them back up.
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>>76691816

Because you can stay as long as you want and dive all day. You aren't limited by dive tables as you can allow yourself to fully saturate with nitrogen safely, since you're returning to a habitat at the pressure you're adapted to between dives instead of the surface.

This means bottom time goes from 2 hours per day to 9. It is limited only by physical endurance at that point. This is a huge boon to coral reef research.

It's one of the only applications that is useful enough to justify the cost of such a habitat. The others being military and mining.
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>>76692123

Build it on land, tow it out, then sink it.
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>>76691425
I have never met a leftist that is actually good at a debate, they always lose and then try to beat around the bush to seem like they didn't.

I suppose it comes from them not needing to actually know anything for the masses to just assume they do.

The only legitimate problem with space travel is when we inevitably run into space niggers. Which of course the Leftists will try to raise to a pedestal and enforce white/ colonialist guilt on people.
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>>76691433
But all those resources, tho
Just remove the nigs like we know you want to.
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>>76692207

There was that scene in Starship Troopers where a leftist was defending the bugs, saying we encroached on their territory and they're just defending themselves

Btw blacks can't swim. The Chinese have the right idea and we should be building our own colonies down there
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>>76689839
Whoever is in charge after nuclear armageddon better avenge my wall shadow ass. I don't want to hear any "retaliating won't bring back the dead, haven't enough people died?" bullshit.

NUKE THEM
THEN NUKE THE ASHES
THEN NUKE THE GLOW
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>>76679015

Pretty friggin' awesome to be honest. I am jealous that America won't do anything like this. Instead we will argue about space exploration and then do nothing with that either.
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>>76692375
> I am jealous that America won't do anything like this

Well, we do have this thing... >>76692135
>>76689878
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>>76692235
I wish we can just develop some disease like some Manga I read where they develop a disease of ethnic cleansing to clear out all the niggers maybe euthanize all of them?
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>>76692310
and we should also design the swim suits so that they fit nicely to the white body shape.

I mean what are the leftists going to say, that there are differences in the races beneath the skin?
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>>76679015
Are they building a secret underwater ghost base?
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>>76680053
>Also very shallow, around 200-300 feet.

so not like this, you faggot. dont pretend china isnt making usa bite the dust in terms of infrastructure
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They're trying to destroy the Japanese as revenge for the rape of Nan-King.
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>>76692207
You'd best hope we don't run into them before we build our inevitable glorious I M P E R I V M, or we're so fucked.
Well, considering that leftists would still be around to put space niggers on a pedestal, we're probably not there yet. fug
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>>76691381
>but you could operate them from a submarine just 200 feet down.

not really because you have no where to put the 1000s of tons per day of raw material you are going to need to extract to make this profitable.

copper is about 4500USD per ton. zinc is half that. and that's not ore, that's the metal. to put that in the context of maritime economics, a dive team costs about USD 15-20000 per day for five men, inshore. overshore? fuck. costs about GBP 500 000 to hire a tug in aberdeen for a rig tow to position in the season. those examples are off the top of my head. offshore is really fucking expensive.

the issue here is economics of scale. a sub isn't going to cut it. you need to move massive amounts of material to make money. a surface tethered vessel is larger and will be constantly serviced by other vessels moving product, just like the oil industry and fpso ships. if that is the model they're aiming for, you're also going to need a method of leaving station in the advent of a weather event, which means they're probably servicing a surface installation of some sort, and the rov tethers will be going through that. you're not getting those vehicles off the bottom quickly. his is expensive shit.

it might even be cheaper and easier to run a slurry pipeline back to shore.
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>>76692439
Too dangerous for rest of human population, just use conventional weapons. What are they going to do, defend themselves with all that high-tech anti-aircraft weaponry they don't have? Catapult rocks at your fighters? Kill your tanks with bow and arrows?
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>>76691425
those rocks are unique flowers you cunt
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Lots of minerals at the bottom of the ocean.

China is going to exploit that.
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>>76692625
To be fair I would take the ork's from Warhammer 40K over niggers anyday, I mean only one of the two are capable of having a semi-stable society.
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>>76679015

Oh no they're going to poison all of the Kolto!
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>>76692541

They are ahead of us in this area. It came out of nowhere, we have been totally focused on Mars.

But I bet you if China is successful at it, we'll build our own. 70% of the Earth is covered in water, and except for oil and fish we've been surviving until now on just the resources available on the 30% that's dry.

We'll have to expand into the ocean in a big way sooner or later just to keep meeting our needs for metals, energy and food.

I always though the future would be Star Trek but I guess it will be Sea Quest too
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>>76692685

Those are really good points actually. It makes more sense now why they're doing it this way.
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>>76681626
I know it's petty but I love that the US has so much influence as to be able to fuck over the rest of the world by using Imperial measurements.
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>in the future there's a possibility underwater countries will exist and they'll have their own rare flags
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>>76691311
That's weird. Not a single leftie I know has that rhetoric, only hurr durr redneck right wingers say that in my area
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>>76693491
I have never met a leftist that didn't have that attitude, but it's mostly faux, their main concern is shit like the song in >>76691269 goes on about, giving all our tax money on dirty niggers that don't put anything back, at least with space travel we'll have long term rewards and some form of achievement with it not just a money sink and the further destruction of our societies.
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>>76693449
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>>76679015
Thank fucking god someone is starting this
The sooner we have underwater cities, the sooner we have cities above the ocean, and the sooner we have cities above the ocean, the sooner we have cities floating in the sky
Thank God China has the balls to actually get shit done
Where's the technological future I was promised
Muh flying cars
Muh floating cities
Muh starships
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>>76693491

The rhetoric shifts around based on what makes them look good in the moment. Pro space travel and ocean exploration sounds pro-science, which they can contrast with the creationism of the right.

But then if the right wants to not just explore the ocean but settle and exploit it, the lefties go all environmental, likewise when conservatives talk about factories and mines on the Moon and Mars. Just being contrarians and positioning themselves to look morally superior while preventing anything from getting done.
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>>76679015
While we spend money on greedy blood sucking boomers and Shaquana's 9th welfare child.

Well at least we have a space program...oh wait.
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>>76693896
Your Ideal under water world has one problem.

>niggers not even once.
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>>76679130
Of course der ewige Liechtensteiner would know about jew gold
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>>76694031

The future happens, just disappointingly slowly. VR finally got here but 20 years late. Private spaceflight companies are finally a real thing. Electric cars are now in wide use, 30 years late. Personal hoverboards exist (not those dumb scooters, actual ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEDrMriKsFM)

It happens but not on schedule. Real world tech improvement takes time, and along the way it has to be worked out how to actually generate a profit with all this stuff or it'd just be a money pit.
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>>76694206

She's just tan. Nigs refuse to go in a place like that.
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>>76694303
Thats what they all say then it all goes the way of Detroit m8.
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>>76687286
>a massive military undersea installation the US government considered building in the 60s
>considered building

Which means they definitely DID build it.
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Great now they are going to pollute the ocean even further
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>>76695081

Probably. But officially they never continued with their manned seafloor installations after Sealab-III. That could just be when they decided to stop doing it in full public view.

Every nuclear sub has a docking collar. That's so an emergency escape submersible can dock to it and evacuate the crew little by little if it becomes stuck. But it could also be used to dock to any sort of large submerged structure, the way capsules dock to the ISS.
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>>76682971
>>76683056
How new can you beeeeee
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You idiots saying it will be a disaster don't get it do you? Their shitty infrastructure is built by the cheapest contractors, but if they can manage to pull off this ocean station they're gonna have their dick waving card of a lifetime. I doubt they're gonna contract shitty builders when we're talking about going down into the history of humanity.
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>>76695555

I find it slightly hard to believe that not a single submariner has leaked it's existence if true.
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>>76689591
Have you even played Fallout
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>>76696124

It may be that none have ever seen or used it. It's really only intended for activation in the event that the US is destroyed or occupied.
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>>76696124
that's why its secret :)
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>>76679015
What are they building this for, /pol/? What's down there that would be worth so much?
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>>76679230
> im stormy
> im bizarro stormy
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>>76679015
>china is going to build one

Means America probably already has one.
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>>76694266
tfw wondering why we don't have highly trained soldiers on hoverboards gliding over the sandniggers from above and mowing them down while using evasive air manuvers to dodge any return fire
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>>76696585

Mmmmaaybe. >>76687340
>>76687286

The plans exist anyway. The only sea lab the US has that's public knowledge is this dinky little tin can >>76689878
>>76692135

"What is this? A sealab for ANTS??"
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>>76696553
Whoa whoa whoa
why is she "black Debbie"?
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>>76696641

1. it takes loads of training to fly
2. you'd make an easy target doing that
3. short flight time of around 30 minutes
4. no actual tactical benefit

Very cool though no argument
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>>76679130
That's Prussia ya know.
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>>76690049
meh i live at +9800
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This is just an undersea DUMB
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>>76679015
Nice. Thousands of drowned chinks is always good news.
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