LOL!
>>76673641
>Authoritarian
i'm so glad RP did not win the nomination
Ron Paul is old and senile and desperate for attention. Fuck him.
This is like when your two best friends are in an argument and you just want everyone to get along again
>>76673892
thats pol right now
>>76673641
Fuck off, old shrew. Quit being a sore loser.
>>76673641
Libertarians are a cancerous tumor. They must be removed just as the communists and social Democrats.
>>76673641
Ron Paul was a dream but a very unrealistic one, trump is the best thing you can get. Ron Paul is still the best thing that could of happened to America though.
why doesn't ron know what an authoritarian is. did retirement scramble his brains.
>>76673641
>preferring Hillary to trump
Capital L Libertarians are closet liberals
>muh social issues
Are all they fucking talk about
>>76674222
Ron Paul message is far higher than what Trump is doing. Audit the fed. Return to a strict constitution interpretation.
But Trump can win now, and it's better than nothing.
>>76674305
Delete this
>>76673641
>the media often asks me...
no they don't
>>76674448
You're a fucking idiot, Trump IS authoritarian as fuck and that is great. White nationalism and authoritarianism go hand in hand, if we want to protect and preserve the white race then we HAVE to be authoritarian.
Ron Paul has always been an anti-white nigger lovin cuck
>lolbertarians
>>76674691
Trump said he would audit the fed his first 100 days in office. And personally, I'm not a fan of the 14th and 19th amendments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOEJGKusJb8
>H-HE'S AUTHORITARIAN!!!
And hillary isn't 100x moreso? He's evil because he's using ">muh government" to enforce one of the few things they actually should, which is border control?
I fucking hate it when these libertarians sperg out and start purity spiraling. "hurr, no candidate is good because they don't match what I want 100% so the guy who wants a border wall is just as bad as the communist jew."
">muh principles" is the biggest cancer on the right side of the political spectrum. Sticking to your principles and remaining unelectable while at the same time allowing millions of brownskins (who will vote socialist 80% of the time) to flood into the country is retarded. People will Ron Paul will sit back as the hordes of vibrancy boil up around them, and as they get ripped from their cars and beaten in the head with bricks, they'll say "at least I stood by my principles"
>>76673641
>border security is authoritarian
what
>>76674691
The president can't do any of that without violating the constitution though I guess I shouldn't expect a vagina doctor to know much about the actual law.
>>76675191
Is he supporting the hilldog? If yes fuck him
If no fuck you.
If he stands by his words than he is bamf. Even if that means trump doesnt get the happening mands support.
If he says well better hilldog than trump i will totaly agree with this.
there is only 1 truth in this ellection for the entire world. If hillary goes potus the world goes boom. Simple as that.
>>76675191
>And hillary isn't 100x moreso?
Neoliberalism (Hillary) is far better than Trump's archaic brand of nationalism.
>>76675552
>neoliberalism
neoconservatism but with high taxes and pandering to minorities?
Hilldog is the worst of both sides of the spectrum.
>>76675741
Neoconservatism is a conservative take on neoliberalism. Military adventurism is harmful to the development of markets and does little to safeguard America's actual interests. Obama has so far been the ideal neoliberal president. Instead of staging large invasions he simply arranges for small police actions against those groups that are currently threatening American interests abroad.
>>76673641
Gotta give it to Ron Paul for being based. He should at the very least admit Trump is a better alternative to Hillary tho.
>>76676111
This guy sees it!
Ron Paul is a cuck. KEK will unleash a curse on him
Took a libertarian quiz today. Alparently im an authoritarian.
Libertarians really are children and 'statist' is the cringiest label ever.
Oh, no! A man who has run 3 failed Presidential campaigns doesn't endorse Trump!
>>76673641
lol
>>76675389
If we're going by the constitution, then the Fed wouldn't even exist.
>>76673641
>muh Liberty
Fucking meme ideology.
>>76674851
the founding fathers were libertarian, and they didn't have H1Bs and open borders. they also had tariffs. trump isn't authoritarian
Ron Paul was a meme candidate I only enjoyed for fun, Trump is a meme candidate I believe in
>>76673721
He is authoritarian though. His stance on the Apple/FBI issue is an example of that. It's not an inherent negative, but a libertarian would obviously not like Trump for that reason.
>>76674546
Has he said he will back Hillary over Trump though? I'd think he would vote for Johnson.
>>76676576
So close to only 7 and 6 in your number.
Shills wont respond to taht i asked the same thing.
Right now i dont think he is supporting the hilldog.
>>76676441
Off yourself. I'm serious.
>>76676453
Nope. They believed in protectionism and all sorts of oppressive anti-market bullshit. George Washington himself even put down a legal rebellion during his rule. They were all tyrannical as fuck.
as a libertarian, i think it should be up to the states if a man wants to walk around town completely naked and smoke meth while driving
>>76673641
Aww man, I was hoping he'd be picked for Secretary of State
>>76673641
I don't see a problem here. Ron just holds different views.
>>76673641
He's just being consistent with his worldview unlike Stefan Molymeme who seems to be having a mental breakdown in his conversion to Trump worshiper.
Don't get me wrong, I'm voting Trump because he's better than a crooked criminal like Hillary, but Ron Paul's message of doing unto others what you want done to you foreign policy will always be dear to my heart.
>>76676684
The fact that Ron Paul responded talking about the inconsistencies between their two political ideologies and didn't just call him le racist/bigoted/hitler should be enough for pol to recognize he's worth more than the vast majority of people who weigh in on Trump. But yeah a lot of posters here will see opposition and immediately condemn him, despite intelligent argument against ones positions is paramount in sharpening those positions. It's a shame, some people use /pol/ as an echo chamber.
>>76677517
>He's just being consistent with his worldview unlike Stefan Molymeme who seems to be having a mental breakdown in his conversion to Trump worshiper.
That's to be expected. Holier-than-thou types are almost always closet authoritarians.
>>76676946
You can go fuck yourself. That is blatantly fucking false you fuckwad. Tariffs were used as a form as taxation to provide for the basic needs of limited government. The Whiskey Rebellion was no means "legal", it was a fucking Rebellion.
The Founding Fathers were by no means tyrannical and anti-market you lying dipshit. The natural rights of man are shrined in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution so you can fuck right off.
>>76676946
The Constitution itself was written by a bunch of butthurt landowners who wanted to use the tax-funded army as their own personal Indian-Killer.
YeW lad
>>76677705
>The Founding Fathers were by no means tyrannical and anti-market you lying dipshit.
>Alexander "I want to set up a mercantilist state" Hamilton.
>>76677626
well blame it on Sjws i guess. They turned the entire world into a pc echo chamber. The right wingers need one as well i guess. And pol is like the only one (except literlay stormfront) that offers this possibility.
>>76674414
>could of
irregardlessly, trump will still never win
>>76677658
damned if you do damned if you don't, i guess
Trumpfags are the most insecure people on this website. They cannot handle other people's opinions and resort to le cuck meme. This is why all the libertarian hate threads have been getting shilled here.
All respect for the Don, though.
>>76677888
>1/7 = all
Franklin and Jefferson were very pro-market and pro-trade.
>>76674410
"but authoritarian racists and demagogues are A-OK!!!"
>>76677935
>justifying an echo chamber
Wew
>>76674920
Thanks Canada
>>76674691
>But Trump can win now
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHH!!!
oh fuck!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
>>76678420
Tbh i dont see a problem with echo chanbers as long as most of the talking space isnt an echo chamber. Which today it totaly is a massive echo chamber for Sjws.
Also people are drawn to echo chambers so its only logical that there should be one for the right as well( after all being right winged is illegal only highly discouraged) so im not ok with only echo chambers but i can totally see why they exist and why pol turned into an echo chamber as well.
>>76678615
>>76677705
>Tariffs were used as a form as taxation to provide for the basic needs of limited government.
>tarrifs
>limited government
Just because there isn't an income tax does not mean that the government is "'limited." Tarrifs are always extremely anti-market instruments no matter how you look at them.
>The Whiskey Rebellion was no means "legal", it was a fucking Rebellion.
>farmers taking up arms to fight off a government that was attempting to tax them to death
>not legal
Really anon?
>>76676946
>>76675552
Neoliberalism is an absolute joke. Enjoy your eventual and unavoidable economic collapse. Don't forget the part where you inevitably push the burden of labor onto the underclass of third world nations, who are willingly sacrificed by their governments in exchange for a temporarily higher GDP. Neoliberalism is economic dystopia erroneously peddled as "freedom," when all it does is enslave the people to rampant debt and unstable currency valuation
>>76676098
>Instead of staging large invasions he (well, his handlers to be truthful) simply arranges for large, reckless coups against those sovereign world leaders that are currently not doing shit but happen to piss off Saudi Arabia and/or Israel.
Please tell me why we to "safeguard" America from a harmless strongman like Assad by unleashing hordes of refugees and a violent cult army upon the world
![4mBlecWuRaU2fmPqeXqyL3_DFIXVDoLIsrAmV-v5kvQ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xrRt9hl.jpg "4mBlecWuRaU2fmPqeXqyL3_DFIXVDoLIsrAmV-v5kvQ[1].jpg")
>>76678615
I've never gotten the "Trump is authoritarian meme" the lolbertarians try and push
>>76673773
>>76673721
RP's loss last primary season adds to the fire that rises, brothers.
>>76678698
they breed extremism. If purely conservative values/ideas were the best they could stand up to criticism. Unfortunately they can't, and neither can purely liberal values/ideas.
>>76673892
Well said, goddamn it.
>>76673641
>America First
>authoritarian
Okay Ron Paul, back to /b/
>>76678838
We already don't have a free market on the global scale because China cheats, though. Tariff is just practical at this point, and that's only if China doesn't want to renegotiate, and I think they will.
>>76679127
You need extremists in low percentage to see how far your ideas should not go. Everything in moderation is a princaple that works every were even when applyed to extremism.
Having a few nutjobs that go to far with the ideas is good as it allows you to gouge where your ideas might be wrong.
If the entire world is an echo chamber then your are screwed.
>>76679014
His position on the Apple/FBI issue was very authoritarian. It was "Apple bend over and let the FBI plow you so it can bypass your security." It's probably the issue I disagree with him the most on, for the same reasons I didn't like the Patriot Act or other expansions of government power. Even if you like Obama/Trump or you think the FBI is doing good here, it is much easier to give the government power than it is to take it away from them.
>>76679310
Those two are not mutually exclusive though.
>>76678712
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>>76673641
Fucking based Ron Paul proves yet again that he's one of the best.
>inb4 all the tumpcucks now hate Ron Paul with a passion.
>>76674920
Well, I didn't heard him talking about that. Ron Paul used to just talk about that. This signaled me the rate of importance each of them gives to this issue.
>>76673641
was debating on voting for Trump or not lately,
after the mexican judge thing and now Ron Paul reking his shit, will be going third party.
>>76674305
>>76674414
>>76674448
>>76674899
>>76676200
>>76676527
>>76679310
>>76679014
Trump will continue using Executive orders
Trump is all for eminent domain
Trump is all for invading Iran to stop them from getting a nuke
How can you faggots even defend this?
Trump is obongo 2.0
meme magic nearly got me.
wew
>>76679080
Lolbertarians are such bitter Autists
>>76678410
They are.
Libertarians are just the Communists of the right. Always spouting about how muh brand of Libertarianism hasn't been tried, and "if people would only just-". But the entire concept is built on a complete disregard for both human nature and reality.
You outgrow Libertarianism and accept Authoritarianism as what's the sole remaining best of the workable possibilities.
>>76680459
>How can you faggots even defend this?
inb4
"you have to go back"
"the wall just got ten feet taller"
"MAGA"
"just wait for hitler"
"who should we vote for then?"
>>76680195
i miss old /pol/ where ron paul was the hero of the board now hes gone
>>76680666
>But the entire concept is built on a complete disregard for both human nature and reality.
Libertarianism is rooted in the traditional liberal conception of human nature (i.e. humans as rational actors who are always pursuing the self-interest.) Humans do better without a regulatory state. Thus why America was such a major player in world events up until the 1960s.
>>76680914
>i miss old /pol/ where ron paul was the hero of the board now hes gone
I miss old /pol/ where everyone knew never to trust Zionists like Trump and knew that the Jews were bad news.
Someone needs to make a photo showing old /pol/ as Nazi's and nu/pol/ as Jew loving neoconservatives.
>>76680459
GOOD, fuck those sandniggers
>>76681159
YEAH! TRUMP IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE ISRAEL! HE SAID IT HIMSELF!
>>76673641
Ron Paul right again
Trump is authoritarian....unlike Clinton, Trump isn't aiming that authority at white males
so I'm kinda meh
Not supporting him, but not scared of him.
>>76677626
>a lot of posters here will see opposition and immediately condemn him
It's really unfortunate desu. It's like people are forgetting that you can still like some parts of a person or a position even if you disagree with other parts.
I still wholeheartedly agree with plenty of what RP has to say, but I've got to disagree with his comment here, assuming he's basing it on the Apple/FBI issue. While I certainly want more privacy from government overwatch, I think that the government or justice system should not be hindered from prosecuting or investigating a crime (within reason of course) after it has occurred. If the Feds want Apple to crack the phone and see if there's information about other terrorist members or suppliers then I see nothing wrong with that so long as the software or backdoor is not shared with the Feds during or after the process. Trump's attitude toward this is justified and sensible imo. Well, they both are in their own ways. I just happen to agree with one more than the other.
>>76680459
I've said it before and I'll say it again, when Hillary gets elected because of faggots like you I'm going to shit on you daily. I may even beat the shit out of a few of you for being so hopelessly retarded.
>>76680459
>Trump will continue using Executive orders
nice paranoia
>Trump is all for eminent domain
ok
>Trump is all for invading Iran to stop them from getting a nuke
a bald-faced lie
>>76681436
>He thinks it matters who is president.
Fucking conservatives man...
>>76680471
Ron Paul was obviously the most prepared candidate, and the best option.
Mitt Romney just had the optics for the public.
Media destroyed Paul campaign, because he was resilient as Trump.
Ron Paul is great. Better than Trump for real change.
>>76681561
It does this time and the fact that you don't know it shows me that you don't know shit. Grow the fuck up and realize that this election is actually unique. I wasn't even going to vote this year until I looked into Trump.
But of course, can't expect a stormkike to know shit about anything. You're a disgrace and probably muslim.
>>76681900
>It does this time
Oh yeah. Sure it does.
>and the fact that you don't know it shows me that you don't know shit.
So Trump isn't a Zionist? So Hillary isn't a Zionist?
>Grow the fuck up and realize that this election is actually unique.
Which is funny because I actually have heard that every single election in my adult life as to why I should sacrifice my beliefs to vote for (R).
>I wasn't even going to vote this year until I looked into Trump.
Obviously you haven't looked deep enough.
>But of course, can't expect a stormkike to know shit about anything.
Said the faggot doing the will of his Jewish masters.
Next you're going to tell me how I should be supporting Israel and that the Jews controlling the media is acceptable, right?
>You're a disgrace and probably muslim.
lmao! Said the Jew.
>>76682434
Muslims aren't welcome here. Get out bitch.
>>76680917
>humans as rational actors
This has never been true.
>>76675255
Natives should be able to out compete foreigners who are willing to work for $1/hour, if they can't then they are lazy, entitled, statists.
T. Lolbertarians everywhere
>>76682766
>HURR DURR! IF YOU DONT UNCONDITIONALLY SUPPORT TRUMP IT MAKES YOU A MUSLIM
Why don't you go join the military? That way, when Trump sends you to the middle east you can kill sandniggers for your Jewish masters.
>Get out bitch.
Has that ever worked? Do you really think I'm going to leave this thread because you're so triggered you think that this must be a trumpcuck only hugbox?
Whiny little faggot.
>>76675472
Romania has internet?
>>76678236
>Trumpfags are the most insecure people on this website. They cannot handle other people's opinions and resort to le cuck meme.
No, Trumpfags do make use of the cuck meme way too much on reddit but i haven't seen it being used much here, including on boards with a lot of crossbrowsing between /pol/ and them.
Ron Paul used to be a Constitutionalist.
After he set fire to the Liberty movement, he ended up joining it, and he become an ideologue. His ideas seem to no longer be about the interests of America or the rule of law, but rather just about adhering to his ideology. It's sad, because I love the guy. He has fallen.
Furthermore, Trump is so much less of an authoritarian than literally any other candidate we've had, save maybe ol' Ron. His platform is LITERALLY "enforce the law." It's not in any way an authoritarian or despotic position. He's not pushing some radical agenda. It's a neutral, objective, pro-American position.
>>76673641
Ron Paul is a giant piece of fucking shit.
>>76684050
>>76684116
I remember when shilling used to be called out here
meme magic has dun fucked up /pol/ up
>>76684420
>having an opinion is shilling
w e w
>>76684558
having a retarded opinion might as well be
famalami
>>76674546
Trying to get at the wannabe activist crowd.
the country need a leader that will take them out of this shithole. Ron Paul is for when we are already out of it and push it to the next level
>>76678410
Remind me what's wrong with demagogues again?
Ron Paul, unlike many people in the world today, will stand on principle. You may think him to be a misguided little fellow, but you cannot fault his character and his resolute stand for the things he believes in.
He is 100% right, unlike Elizabeth 'I'm not Pocahontas' Warren, who sold out and has endorsed a candidate she fundamentally disagrees with.
>>76673641
Can't you be happy that you will have a critical voice like Ron Paul to keep commenting on Donald Trump?
>>76673892
Impeccable analogy anon.
>>76673641
Used to like Paul, the old faggot can go get killed for all I care. Ducking worth less maggot that would probably vote for bernie. Paul is a commie rat now
>>76681098
Paul sold out faggot
Is it possible to have a small government that is for closed borders and is nationalistic?
>>76673641
Western society is rotten to the core and getting worse.
Now is not the time for liberatianism.
>>76680459
>$0.01 has been deposited into your account
>>76677705
Jesus you are a dumbass, stop typing and inhale helium pronto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d45x4OpMoow
>lolbertarians
>>76678712
>Trump appears briefly and is immediately incinerated by blinding white light
Seems about right.
>>76675063
HE PUT A HIT ON ME
Amazing how easily pol eats it's own
>>76677517
Being consistent with a worldview that is being proven to be destructive to the foundation that very world view is founded on is not bold or brave or even logical; it's insanity.
I respect Ron Paul for his constitutionally oriented voting history, but we're beyond idealism and fantasy. Western civilization is in very real danger and it's being attacked by those who would weaponize the very freedoms we support, and we enjoy, against us.
Libertarians are still, blindly, advocating for open borders, cheering on corporate oligarchy, and all manner of moral nihilism and degeneracy. Our culture, our prosperity, our safety, and even our fertility is suffering the extremely negative effects of a liberal/libertarian world view and it will bring violence (deep, savage, and unrelenting violence) if we don't wake up and reject the most offending aspects those ideologies have, that brought us to this.
>>76681436
>when Hillary gets elected
Its already happened.
Trump stands zero chance of ever living inside of the White House.
>>76673892
But isn't that the problem with the state? You can agree with your friends on a schedule that lays down when their turn is to have that toy but what if one thinks the other one can't be trusted with the toy?
>>76685073
First you need to be able to speak your native tongue.
google the word, study on it, then get back to me, junior.
>>76673641
Eh he had his chance in 2012 and he let himself get squelched. He didn't really fight back as hard as he should have. Now we have someone, while not perfect wants to fix trade and borders, not to mention will act as a wrecking ball in Washington. You had a choice, don't call it a grave Ron its the future you chose....
