Because of this commiefornia court decision I've decided to buy my first firearm /pol/ What gun should I buy to piss off liberals the most?
>pic related
>implying you can get guns that aren't on the liberal approved gun roster in commiefornia
tough break m8.
>>76668102
gimmick caliber
>>76668102
Get you a 1911, simple cheap and effective.
>>76668102
If you want a firearm, why are you purchasing a hand grenade?
>>76668284
>Not liking .45 Great Ape Punisher
>buying a gun to "piss off liberals"
Are you 13?
Glock 19
You don't want any exotic caliber.
You need to buy a weapon that is absurd overkill that no human being would ever require for self defense.
A belt fed LMG is a good starting point, but any assault weapon should do. Anything that shoots a good number of bullets, really.
Buy a golden deagle brand deagle. The 44 mag version is on the roster and you can buy the 50 ae barrel conversion for maximum libshit butthurt
Definitely not anything in a boutique clown caliber.
Especially not in a pistol for christ's sake, literally zero practical advantage
>>76668347
>Implying it's not .45 Gay Anal Penetration
>>76668374
no he's american
>>76668374
I would buy another AK if I knew it would piss off liberals
>>76668102
45 gap != 45 auto
>>76668347
>Not buying .50 AFRICAN ELIMINATOR instead
Glock 40
Go big or go home.
>>76668419
seconded g19
cheap to shoot and effective with proper rounds
ccw daily for me
can't go wrong with 15+1 either
>>76668102
500 S&W largest handgun caliber you can buy. For when you need to shoot a bad guy behind the refrigerator in your neighbors house across the street
>>76668102
I'm in the same boat, going to buy an AR-15 because I heard assault rifle laws are going to change soon in Cali
>>76668102
Don't buy 45 GAP it's the memest of meme rounds to the point where I forgot it existed.
>>76668284
Don't you mean meme caliber?
Isn't everything memes these days?
>.45GAP
Walther pps
>>76668327
For how much are 1911 going for?
Colt .38 snub nose police special
Literally TR he comfyest of all guns
>>76668327
1911's vary in cost wider than Glocks and are usually more expensive.
>>76668102
OP, get a Glock 19 as your first gun. Easy to use, cheap 9mm ammo and effective.
Then get an 16 inch, midlength gas AR for your first rifle..
This will sufficiently piss off liberals. Move forward from there.
>>76668102
>Glock
Also,
>>>/k/
>>76669341
and a remington 870 for a perfect trifecta
liberal here, not pissed off
Sig P320 compact. Like a Glock 19, but better in every way.
>>76668970
I got issued a Glock 38. Great gun though, GAP ammo is cheaper than .45ACP, and you can find it anywhere. The meme isn't true.
>>76669602
except for looks, reliability, addition of safety, brand, cost, and ammunition allocation
>>76669446
Yes. Seconded.
Just get a Glock 19. Used if you can to save money. After you have been into guns awhile you can always sell or trade it very easily. But you probably won't want to let it go.
>>76669602
>Sig P320 compact. Like a Glock 19, but better in every way.
That's the gun I have. Very nice too.
>>76668340
the russian description of the nagant makes me giggle
Colt
Snubnose
.38
Police special
>>76669751
Yes, the p320 is way better than Glock. It's my carry gun too.
>>76669729
>MUH NO SAFETY
Nice meme. safeties are literally personal preference
>>76668102
glock 20 (10mm) would be a good start. i went with a 17 for my first glock but go with the 20.
>>76668742
G19 carrier here too. Gen 2 is only 14+1
>>76669985
Not black and spoopy enough
>>76669729
> looks
who cares and lolwut?
>reliability
just as reliable
>addition of safety
it has no safety
>ammunition allocation
wtf are you talking about?
>>76668102
If you are looking for a striker fired polymer handgun for concealed carry/defense I would highly recommend the Sig p320, the Walther ppq, or the HK vp9. They are all very high quality, precise, highly reliable firearms. I recommend feeling the three and seeing which one you prefer. I personally carry a vp9.
9mm is a great round. buy some Speer gold dot jhp rounds, or Hornady critical defense jhp if your local store doesnt have gold dot.
If you really cant accept the fact that terminal ballistics differences between modern 9mm and .40 rounds are completely negligible, despite 9mm having better capacity and slightly lower recoil, then just get 10mm and be done with it.
If you are a .45 fag, all the same things that you say .45 does better than 9mm or .40 caliber 10mm does better than .45.
That being said, all duty calibers work. 9mm just has higher capacity and cheaper ammo than most.
>>76668102
Hello OP, I went with this.
Very happy, I was way ahead of you.
4 more days before the sheriff emails me, and I can pick it up.
Get a glock 18!! Very cheap 500$ and best gun!
>>76670201
>Sheriff
Wut?
>>76669729
>Sig P320 looks better, isnt just a box with a handle
>Sig P320 is just as reliable, if not more so
>Sig is the superior brand
>You pay a bit extra because you are getting a better product
>Ammo allocation
W....What the fuck are you on about m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTRjXD7AVU
>>76668102
Hk45c
>>76670201
Those JHPs are trash
>>76670201
>4 more days before the sheriff emails me, and I can pick it up.
>nc
what?
do you live in charlotte or omthing
>>76670057
No meme calibers. That's for retards.
>>76670201
here you go, buy this.
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/50rds-9mm-federal-le-tactical-hst-124gr-p-hp-ammo
>>76670457
Better grip, better sights, better trigger, modular design, better fit and finish... less than $50 more expensive.
>>76668102
Kel-Tec PF9 Trayvon Killer. Cheap, reliable, concealable.
>>76668847
you really don't need anything more powerful than a .357 magnum. those overpowered guns are not something you should start out on, might develop a flinch or other bad habits.
>>76669143
a good entry level 1911 like a Springfield Armory or Ruger will cost around $800, a shitty Filipino one will cost around $400 but is worthless. A high quality Kimber or Les Baer will be over $1200
>>76670705
>http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/50rds-9mm-federal-le-tactical-hst-124gr-p-hp-ammo
Thanks, what do you think about the ZQI 556 greentip knock off?
>>76670524
Pretty close.
>>76671186
>A high quality Kimber
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>sig vs glock
why are you buying a pistol anyway
you can't commence street sweeping operations with a glock
>>76671186
>A high quality Kimber
Stop this meme
>>76668284
def get a glock 29
>>76668102
>buying
>guns
have fun getting it confiscated when hillary becomes queen mob criminal ruler of amerikkka, lol
>>76668102
Not pic related. Fuck 45 GAP.
Glock is a good gun. I've got a 30, a 19, and a 23.
Can't go wrong with a Glock for your first handgun.
Little 9mm works fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-BMc8Ocre0
>>76671440
They won't get confiscated. Worse case scenario she forces an MSRP buyback and we make more money than we spent.
ar-15
>>76670201
>$700 for a glock 26
wew
>>76671062
Exactly. I will never understand why glockfags cant grasp the purpose of the product they espouse.
The glock is the honda accord of handguns.
Simple, reliable, cheap, and get the job done.
I really like both glocks and accord, even though I own neither.
The difference being that accord owners dont go up to turck owneds claiming their car can tow more
They dont go up to toyota camry owners claiming their accord is twice as reliable
They dont go up to porsche 918 spyder owners and claim their accord is faster
Glock owners need to understand their product and stay in their own lane
OP here, I like the 500 S&W idea...
>Or pic related... which might be fitting since I live in SF
The Democrats will never ban guns, to strike down the individual right to bear arms, forcing gun owners into the welcoming arms of right wing militias, would be a disaster for them politically.
>>76671671
>and stay in their own lane
I think you need to take a break from nuthugging "gun celebrities" on gun forums. The Large One is not going to let you slobber his cock is you suck up to him enough.
>>76671671
The best part about Glock is you don't care if they take it away after you shoot a feral gang of niggs.
>>76671603
>Zero reading comprehension
The gun was 539, the other money was associated goodies.
>>76671760
>I like the 500 S&W idea...
:)
>>76671760
Just don't shoot yourself in the head from a recoil induced flinch. Load one round at a time to practice for a while.
>>76669985
I like your style
>>76671510
is that a swastika on your wallet
>>76671835
>"gun celebrities" on gun forums
?
Son, stay in your lane is a military term, not my fault some aspiring le eblogger faggots happen to use it.
>>76671671
>The glock is the honda accord of handguns.
It kills people just as dead as a sig or any other pistol you care to jerk it to.
>>76668102
Obviously any larger gun, so long as it is made of black polymer, has a pistol grip and a large capacity magazine. Any true /k/ommando needs an assault weapon
>>76672220
spare me the bullshit
>>76671671
The part your argument falls apart is that most of those metrics; towing and "going fast" are in any way applicable to firearms. Reliability is though, and Glocks are as or more reliable than any handguns on the planet. That's a proven fact.
If you are going to shoot a lot be very aware of the cost of ammo. I shoot thousands of rounds in a summer and the cost of the ammo makes the cost of the gun sort of irrelevant.
>>76668102
what was the recent court decision?
>>76668102
>Implying that the Jews aren't making these for $10 in Mexico.
Face it polack, you got jewed again
>>76672311
All duty size handguns from major manufacturers are the same shit performance wise. There are only insignificant differences between them, the only reason to pick one over the other are features.
>>76669446
No. Remington quality control is shit.
Go with a basic bitch Mossberg 500.
>>76672308
Kek, you got your shit pushed in, son.
>>76672195
Columbia logo, but pretty close to a swastika.
>>76672311
I own a bunch of Glocks, H&Ks, and the Sig p320, I would select the p320 hands down over all of the others. It just feels so nice and smooth to shoot.
>>76671760
.500 is awesome but the .460 S&W Magnum allows for you to use .45 Colt and .454 Casull for practice. Also, keep in mind that factory .500 S&W runs about twice what .460 S&W does cost wise. If you don't reload, the .500 can put you in the poor house quick.
>>76672039
you still spent $700 on shit for a $375 gun
>>76672311
>Glocks are as or more reliable than any handguns on the planet.
most handguns are more accurate and more reliable than you are
glock really isn't special
>>76668102
This triggers the commies.
>>76672393
That more rights are taken away.
You didn't hear about it because the leftist media is okay with these rights being taken away.
>>76672620
I would say that if you don't reload then x-frames in general are not viable unless you have shitloads of money. And if you do reload the cost of ammo for both is around the same.
>>76672660
>>76668847
>500 S&W
>large
Ok, kid.
>>76672655
You all are missing the point. Which was not to buy the best value/performance weapon... but to buy that which most pisses off the bernie libtards OP must deal with on daily basis...
Grab an SKS,
It's Probably the most battle capable semi-auto that is ban-proof in commiefornia.
Or get an ARES SCR cali legal version
Stay away from bullet button straight grip ARs, they're just a disappointment every time you look at it.
>>76668102
a bullpup sks (you can find the kit by SG Works)
Here is my first gun, I put it on the wall because it apparently was either in a war zone or badly taken care of.
>>76668102
Go to the /k/ wiki. There's a handgun buying guide.
American here, but I can't own a gun. [spoiler] Guess why. [/spoiler]
What should I do for self-defence? Are electric stun guns illegal here?
>>76672924
>buy that which most pisses off the bernie libtards
:)
>>76669452
you probably more right than a n average american cuckservative though.
>>76671326
>pistol vs rifle
>why are you buying a rifle anyway
>you can't commence street sweeping operations with a FAL
H&K tactical 9mm USP SD. And get the silencer anon.
>>76673324
they are nice but feel like shit in the hand
>>76668102
I am also going to be a first time gun buyer. I am leaning towards a glock 35. 40 cal and 15+1. I can't CC in new jersey, so it will be for range shooting and home defense.
>>76673413
I personally like the feel. Not as much as I liked the old slant grip styles though.
>tfw you will never take part in this and be able to enjoy gun culture
>>76673413
Like the SP5K. They call it a sport pistol rather than a tactical. But it fits the hand beautifully and kicks nice. Doesn't hop on you.
Debating on my first gun. I have a tactical semi-auto shotgun I can pick up (lightly used) for $400 and it's got great reviews. (Escort Tactical).
It seems like a great fit since I've used a shotgun before and is easy enough to keep and maintain. Trouble is, loading a shotgun in shituations may lead to errors and fucking up so something with a mag seems better for home defense perhaps.
This leads me into pistols, however I've used glocks and barettas before and I am a shitty shot so this gets me thinking on revolvers however we end back at square 1 since in a hectic situation loading isn't ideal. I also don't have a CC permit yet so it seems kind of pointless right now.
Then it takes me to rifles where I have tons of options, but I'd want to put some serious money into. $600 starting minimum and I don't quite have that right now.
Oh also there's a used KSG shotgun at a local pawnshop for just under $800 I may be able to get in a week or two if it's still there.
Wut do?
>>76673807
I am not even joking when I say I feel legitimately bad for you.
Pic related is my beautiful baby boy.
>>76674050
Sig p320 compact, also get the subcompact frame for CC.
>>76673942
Pic related
>>76674061
>paying more for an anchor
I am not even joking when I say I feel legitimately bad for you.
>>76674050
My Combo is;
Colt 6920 AR and 8 mags.
Mossberg tactical on my back 17 shells on the gun and 12 more on my chest rig.
Glock 26 3 mags
>>76674050
>I have a tactical semi-auto shotgun I can pick up (lightly used) for $400 and it's got great reviews. (Escort Tactical).
Never even heard of that. Probably some turk made shitgun, avoid.
Don't get any kel-tec memeshit
Don't get a revolver.
>>76671186
>Kimber
>Quality
Opinion discarded.
>>76674514
Picturing this is pretty comical.
>>76674061
I always thought of guns as girls.
http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/marine-gladiator-chest-rig-with-bib-a-tacs.html
My SHTF chest rig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khchqRIPN4U
>>76674649
Well my chest rig has a hydration bladder pack and the mossberg fits into it very well.
If I had to run and gun, I would probably keep the mossberg on my big out bag. (it has a thing to hold a rifle.)
>>76673304
>>76674566
It is infact Turkish, yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_kR1fAV3n0
Thanks for the advise. The KSG looks and seems to function great, but it's a bit pricy and I'm not sure how much I like th pump ending right at the barrel like that.
>>76674437
>>76674514
Thanks, I'll give these a look!
>>76674813
Christ
I have to ask, why on earth would you ever need both and AR and a shotgun at the same time? Are you gonna do some dynamic tactical weak hand operator weapon e-transitions when you're slaying ISIS bodies in your basement?
Tek-9 for colombine shooting triggering
>>76674649
It would be comical if this wasn't me.
But this is me, and i'm very tall.
And hauling all that isn't hard.
>>76673324
>silencer
GTFO
Shotguns don't have enough capacity to be worth it for HD. Rifle is the way to go, if you are worried about over penetration, go fuck yourself.
>>76674965
No, it's still pretty laughable. Most retards are.
>>76675049
Shotguns over penetrate more than ARs anyway with buckshot
>>76674937
Opening doors, but yeah I would probably leave the shotgun.
Right now I sleep with it in my bed.
If I had to really move, I would leave it.
>>76675116
Yeah I can totally envision a situation where you would need to use a breaching round to bust a door when you are by yourself in some fantasyland SHTF situation, and it would be completely practical and not stupid at all.
>>76675100
That's my point, everything over penetrates, I always laugh when I hear people make gun selection on the penetration argument.
>>76668102
I hate, hate, hate my cuckstate. As soon as I graduate from my state school with my STEM degree I'm gone. Not paying a cent in taxes back to these marxists. Thanks for the tax subsidized degree, though.
>>76672928
>ARES SCR
I want one of these and I'm not even in a ban state
My HD gun is the S&W M&P 10.
>>76670065
Stuff that extra round in the mag after you chamber, you pleb.
>>76674910
6920 is a solid AR, the standard.
Get a handgun first as they are the most practical. Any major manufacturer would be fine, the Glock and Sig examples posted are good.
I wouldn't bother with a shotgun unless you have an interest in hunting.
>>76668537
>>76675049
Ok, kid.
>>76675722
>Saiga 12
enjoy your jam.
>>76668232
You can always buy the California unapproved handguns as consignment purchases at stores from law enforcement personnel. I recently bought a colt govt. model that way even though they are banned. Most fun stores that serve police departments also sell to the public so just walk into one and ask what LEO guns they have on consignment that are for sale.
>>76675722
>saiga with drum
jammomatic with extra jam
>buy a tool to make somebody else mad
Why not just buy a pink tutu that has little led's that spell "LOOK AT ME" in various colours?
Be real about what you want.
And if you ever go buy a gun for an adult reason, I recommend a .38 s&w. That's what I have. My gun is for a situation in which I would be choosing prison over death, so it absolutely has to fucking work. Very easy to learn to shoot, very unobtrusive to carry, and if you ever (hahaha no) manage to get a wife, she can use it too with very little training.
>>76668419
This, but it's too big to carry. Get a Glock 26 and be done with it.
>>76668102
Buy a glock in 9mm. You can drive another state over and buy 33 round magazines and bring them home. Maximum triggering.
>>76668549
It does. Go buy another. Go buy several, flood the streets with AKs. Every time they even fucking THINK about another AWB a whole shitload of rifles fly off the shelves. It's fantastic.
>>76676060
>I recommend a .38 s&w.
So does Mike. He has actually killed a lot of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRzVuel_hI
>>76675834
>>76675996
Post yours since you both obviously own one and aren't spouting memes.
>>76668742
>not owning an FN FNS9
>17+1
>better ergos
buy a kahr
trigger all the cucks with a gun that is made in america by a conservative christian nut and a POC
>>76675570
I don't really have an interest in hunting, but I did enjoy shooting skeet when I had the opportunity a few years back. And I have to admit the power and versatility offered by shotguns is quite enticing to me.
This said, I am a far better shot with a rifle.
The general thought seems to be on pistols, so while I'll regret passing on what looks like a fantastic shotgun, I'll dive deeper into pistols tonight and tomorrow.
>>76674495
>Thinking the MK-25 is literally just the anchor
Educate yourself noguns.
>>76668102
Just bought me one of these puppies.
Lov it to death
>>76674692
Jesus that pic gave me a boner and I'm not even a gun fag
>>76668102
since you dont own a gun go with the most popular hand gun. get a 9.mm bereta
/k/ will go off talking shit at that point omg that shit wont shoot through a windshield bla bla bla "muh stopping powa" yada yada but its the most common gun and manufacturer for that caliber bought by law enforcement and is a common side arm for military forces globally
supposed to be reliable for a semi automatic handgun. not likely to jam
>>76676895
Relax, he doesn't know about the sights or the coating.
All he can afford is a "glock: needs inspection"
>>76671671
>>76671186
Good advice here!
>>76675834
I can confirm, the jam is real.
Bought Saiga and modded it, polished bolt.
Bought multiple mags and a drum.
Jamming is real because shotgun shells deform, when compressed in a mag.
>>76675037
Why? It's a quality add on. Besides he wants to piss off libs. So silencer would twist their tranny panties.
>>76677209
B R A S S S H E L L S
>>76677287
I think he's being autistic about calling it "silencer" instead of "suppressor".
>.45
At least don't be a fudd about it.
Goto NV and get a G20
>>76672073
fucken Dirty Harry 3.0 right here!!
>>76677165
>supposed to be reliable for a semi automatic handgun. not likely to jam
>bought by law enforcement and is a common side arm for military forces
why? oh, because it cost $40 less per gun than the p226, and the military could give a fuck about reliability for paid cannon fodder. ask someone from special forces what sidearm they use. It will either be a 1911 or a p226. Fucking m9, lol.
>>76668102
I guess if you live in california a 45 gap makes sense because of the laws on capacity. I have one, it's a nice firearm but the round can be a pain to find from time to time. I wanted it more because I was buying a firearm from each company in its own proprietary round.
>>76677377
>this post
almost as cringe as the other guy's grammar
![20160609_204437[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mz4yVE5.jpg "20160609_204437[1].jpg")
>>76671348
>>76671302
>>76674638
Why? Kimber is shit cause it jammed out of the box?
Tight tolerances. You gotta break em in. 500 rounds before you carry it. It's in the manual. Or something else?
Mossberg 12ga. Roadblocker, 10/22, and SIG
>>76671671
>he doesnt talon grip his g19
i feel bad for /k/
>>76677525
>Tight tolerances. You gotta break em in. 500 rounds before you carry it. It's in the manual. Or something else?
just lol
>>76668102
>45 GAP
No.
Get a 9mm or 10mm.
>>76668563
This. We dun need no short .45 round up in here.
>>76672839
What the fuck!! A handheld howitzer!!
>>76677336
Ahh. I don't trouble myself with the terms. People know them as silencers.
>>76677525
>everything in that photo
Shiggity diggity do
>>76669781
>Moжeт кaчaть eгo, кaк лeтyчaя мышь.
>>76677525
Kimber is hit and miss. It makes good guns (which fanboys swear by) but it has also birthed abominations.
>>76673632
>>76673942
i held a vp9 in the store, would have happily sold a glock or two if it fit my hand well, but it really didnt
>>76672928
I remember the SKS you could buy these in Australia in the mid 90's for 100-150 bucks before the gun laws..wasn't there an SKK?
>>76668347
>Not buying .45 African criminal penetrator
>>76677513
I can see how you think that, but still, a fucking m9?
>>76677209
No it's because of the power of the shells.
Saigas are notoriously picky. Low brass shells often don't produce enough gas to properly cycle.
My little gun collection really did not cost that much money. I think it is all CA legal too if I put a 5 round mag in the Mini-14. Does everything I need them to do.
>>76678132
There is nothing wrong with 92's. You don't know that because you swallow gun forum lore without question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue8_uN0OIVs
As for your "MUH SPEC OPS" most of them use Glocks these days,
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/02/17/glock-19-pistols-approved-for-marsoc-operators/23548847/
Both the 226 and 92 are very well proven designs that are more than suitable in every performance regard, like most modern handguns from major manufacturers. Whatever decided the 80's mil selection, you sure as hell don't know it.
>>76668102
To piss off gun grabbers an AR-15 is best.
In my opinion the Browning A-5 shotgun is one of the best looking & feeling guns ever. Also the Colt 1911 model handgun is a powerful classic.
>>76677165
>92fs
slide cracking oy vey
here is a little something to trigger /k/baBBIES
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766364_-1_757769_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
I've got one of these. It's super light for a 6 inch, feels great in the hand, and niggers will be down on their luck regardless of whether you fired 5 shots or 6.
>ban effective slavshit
b-but you can keep your mattel guns
>>76678535
>Kahr
It triggers me in a heavy and gritty fashion.
>>76678402
You do not want a safety on a CC weapon. So many times at classes I've been to, people fail to fire on the first shot because they forgot the safety.
>>76678664
and the 'muh safety' argument. we have gone full /k/, or maybe full arfcom
>>76668102
Don't buy a meme cartridge, and if you do buy a 10mm.
>>76677571
>he doesn't stifle grip his g19
>>76678402
>>76678402
>Whatever decided the 80's mil selection, you sure as hell don't know it.
On 14 January 1985, the U.S. Army adopted the Beretta Model 92F as the United States Pistol, Caliber 9mm, M9. Beretta received a five-year contract worth $75 million for 315,930 pistols. It should be noted the 92F won based solely on a lower price per unit basis because the Sig-Sauer P226 also completed all the tests satisfactorily. With this announcement, the M9 became the first handgun to be adopted by all branches of the military. The contract also had provisions for domestic production, so Beretta USA Corporation would take over full production of the M9 by the start of the contract’s third year.
>>76678664
>You do not want a safety on a CC weapon.
yes, you do.
>So many times at classes I've been to, people fail to fire on the first shot because they forgot the safety.
That is called natural selection.
>>76668102
kel tec KSG my friend. #2 on obamas list of guns to ban
I want to buy a gun just in case I need to use it and can't buy one in the future.
I'm not a hunter, gun nut, or anything. I will probably never use it. I know very little about guns. But I want to have one in case I need to. What is a good, reliable, home-defense gun?
>>76678958
>no source
I like how you ignored the rest of my post as well
Even if that is the case all that says is that the 92 was also satisfactory
>>76674061
my sigger
>>76672294
That's the point I made when I said that both "get the job done".
It's right there in my post, yet you chose to overlook it just to make a shitpost.
>>76679002
I bought a Ruger SR9 a year ago and like it a lot.
It has this obnoxious flag that pops up when you have a round chambered. /k/ hated that feature but it definitely does its intended job. It also has a thumb safety which I prefer having.
You can get them for about 450 tops.
Other than that I'd just say a glock 19. Those aren't a bad call.
>>76668284
>the bullet that killed more japs than trains and can punch through one is a gimmick
leave this thread ignorant nigger
>>76672311
The towing and going fast are features desired in cars that, in my analogy, serve as rough parallels to things that are desirable in firearms, say quality of sights or smoothness of trigger pull.
Glocks, for instance, don't have the best trigger pull, and their sights are notorious for being the first thing most people change.
>>76679395
You're a retard
>>76679260
Thanks anon. /k/ is such a low energy board, I'll get better responses on /pol/ in a random gun thread.
>>76678535
I'm so sorry about this but...
>>76679395
You are thinking of .45 acp, the caliber in OPs picture is .45 gap
>>76679449
>don't have the best trigger pull
In your opinion that is, some people prefer the 'rolling break' of your typical polymer 9.
>>76679170
https://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/handguns/23707-sig-p226-vs-beretta-92fs-army-trials.html
Not quite as satisfactory. Not a bad gun, but not a p226.
>>76679002
If you don't need to carry it around a short barrel shotgun in 12ga if you a big person or 20 ga if you are smaller will stop anything.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/37_871/Home+Defense+Shotguns/
They are not very expensive, easy to maintain, simple, and reliable. Shotguns are also hella fun just to shoot for fun. Any gunshop can get you setup.
>>76672604
I agree I think it is reminiscent of a swastika. I asked four people though and they thought I was a tard.
>>76679483
I used to use /k/ a lot. Just got bored with it.
It was amazing when /new/ got axed and they all thought /k/ was going to be their safe haven. Shit didn't fly.
>>76679565
>links to a forum
typical
N O T A S O U R C E
>>76679260
>It has this obnoxious flag that pops up when you have a round chambered.
:)
>>76679735
Oh man they should have.
>>76678922
Nice makarov ;)
>>76679695
http://archive.gao.gov/d4t4/130439.pdf
It was a link in that thread.
>>76679260
I have the 9E. Same gun but no chamber indicator and ships with one mag. Got it new for $310 at rural king
>>76677525
Tolerances so tight that you need to "shoot 500 rounds to break it in" have no place other than the highest tier of competitive shooting firearms.
Why the fuck would you need those tolerances in a concealed carry weapon where ease of access and reliability are far more important in self defense scenarios?
Want to make sure that you aren't .1mm off his left ventricle when firing from 25 yards?
Also, the only redeemable weapon in that picture is perhaps the sig. I'm not normally this rough but you could use some help.
>>76668374
It worked!
>>76669985
patrician
>>76679520
That being said, glock's trigger pull is subpar even in the field of striker fired polymer 9mm handguns
>>76679930
Did you even read that thing?
>In the 1984 Army resting of candidate weapons, we do not believe that the Army exhibited any deliberate bias toward Beretta
>We found no evidence to suggest that secret testing had been conducted and we were unable to prove or disprove that a competitior's price had been "leaked" to Beretta
>We found nothing to indicate that the selection of Beretta was influenced by any secret internation agreement.
That's why you don't listen to forum retards
>>76668102
If you really want to piss them off, carry the biggest, dumbest thing that you can legally carry in public. Rifle or a shotgun would get it done, just don't carry it at the ready.
Is Walther a shit brand?
>>76677525
I have one of those knives, the small silver one, its the Twitch II by SOG and i love it, great little knife feels very sturdy and flips up real nice
>>76680408
He should carry two 24k gold plated desert eagles in .50 african eliminator
>>76680187
A common complaint for some ARs chambered in 7.62 x 51 is that you need to shoot a hundred or so rounds of .308 rem through them for it to cycle properly. And not to mention the fact that you should test the fucking gun you are depending on to protect yourself.
>>76680375
But it does show the sig to be superior in every way.
now you will argue that beretta is not the same shitty company as it was in the 80s
and then I will reply with a 'not a source' as my source, and we will go nowhere.
I still maintain my original opinion that the sig is still superior in every way, and a much better gun than the m9.
>>76680450
Walther P99 is a patrician handgun.
>>76680450
The PPQ is God tier.
>>76679483
I'd also recommend what leafbro here said: >>76676628
I have the newer FNX-9 variant. Both are a stellar choice.
>>76679673
Same here.
>>76680288
Springfield XD is unbeatable. Nothing compares to the feel of their XDM .40
>>76680540
>>76680636
>>76680656
OK lads was having a hard time choosing a brand when everyone has personal favorites
>>76672577
>Mossberg shitters
Remington > Moss(((berg))) any day of the week.
>>76668102
> But it does show the sig to be superior in every way.
>now you will argue that beretta is not the same shitty company as it was in the 80s
Nope
>1984 test Beretta: Reliability 1750 Mud 97% Dry 98% overall 98%
>SACO: Reliability 2877 Mud 98% Dry 79% overall 89%
READ YOUR FUCKING SOURCES RETARD
>>76680818
Go to a funstore and finger fuck a bunch of handguns until one is too comfy not to get.
>>76680919
Sure. Enjoy your rusted barrel right out of the unopened box.
>>76668102
Getting a gun out of spite is a dumb ass thing to do. There are lots of legitimate reasons to buy a gun. Getting one out of spite is asking for you to get yourself shot out of karma.
>>76680610
>>76680943
>Beretta's reliability druring the first article testing was even better than the high level it had demonstrated in the 1984 test.
AYYYYY
>>76680816
Feels like a premium Glock yes, but I still like the feel of the p320 better.
The Walther PPQ has my favorite factory trigger though.
You can't go wrong with the p320, or PPQ.
>>76680816
>buying croatshit
>>76681058
wtf are you even saying?
>>76680943
>>76681092
Meant to quote this tard
>>76680610
>>76681313
>>76681092
and still the SACO was better, which is what I am arguing. Calling me a tard for being right is utterly moronic.
>>76675556
LOL
>>76681570
Except it literally doesn't you idiot
Read your fucking sources
>>76681136
>You can't go wrong with the p320
I got the Sig P320C when they first came out. I shoot it all the time and love it! Happy I made the right choice there. I have fired thousands and thousand of rounds of Remington UMC through it and it has never failed once (I clean it all the time too). I recommend them to anyone and I am pleased to see there are many others that like them too.
Wait, i didnt read much of the thread, but can you really have guns delivered to your house here? I live in Michigan.
Fuck if i would have known you can i woulda just bought my own god damn .22pistol inested of using dads all the time.
>>76672821
>>76678922
kek
>>76668102
I'm planning to get a SIG P226 and 986 Revolver
Guess I won't be needing this anymore...
