Do you open or conceal carry /pol/? What are the pros/cons of both? Discuss.
>>76636102
Concealed is objectively better, you don't want people knowing that you have a gun. It's better to catch them offguard.
>>76636102
open. the pro is that its better in every way, and the con is that i have to listen to actual gun owners, pro 2A people, who think they know something, talk shit about it.
I'm not legally able to own a gun
>>76636274
Why? You live in commiefornia?
see?
they use the word "objectively" and point to exactly zero anecdotes, let alone real data.
drawing from open carry is faster and cleaner. open carry puts on display the fact that if you even start to act up, i will fucking shoot you. you were warned, passively. and literally nobody gets the drop on you if you are aware enough of your surroundings, which you had better be no matter how you carry.
concealing is for nancy-boys.
>open carry
People who would be a threat to you, know you're a threat to them before you know about them
>conceal carry
You're just another face in the crowd
I know which I prefer
>>76636102
If you open carry like that you deserve what you get.
Both, at the same time.
>>76636102
Both. I usually conceal carry.
I open carry sometimes on the city trail when I am walking my dog... just because I find OWB to be maximum comfy.
Going in and out of my home and my vehicle I usually conceal carry. Mainly because I completely ignore businesses with posted signs barring firearms and I don't feel like dealing with some low IQ store manager.
>>76636440
Bingo
>>76636102
have carry permit
wear it in a secure over shoulder holster
weather it's concealed or not is more of a wardrobe choice depending on heat that day
Neither because I need more training before accepting that level of responsibility.
But OC is fully legal where I live, and getting a CCW is on my to-do list.
>>76636560
Al open carry does is let me know where to get a gun if I need one. Carry on though.
>>76636484
like what, high ride?
oh you think a retention device and a bit of cloth on top absolves you of the necessary precautions for carrying a handgun?
is this thread just going to be the "i have never taken the intro-level handgun combat class, but i do have an opinion" thread
>>76636360
i've been involuntarily institutionalized
>>76636102
I conceal and do not have a CCW yet, I just got my Glock 26.
Carry it in my car, carry it to walk my dog.
Plan to get my CCW in a few months.
>>76636757
Teach me sensai
>>76636102
I don't carry because I don't live in a crime ridden shithole. Maybe if you morons put a little effort into your communities you wouldn't need to either. Enjoy it when your son or daughter kills themselves with your gun.
>>76636707
>he thinks he can get within 21 feet with his hand in a pocket on his weapon without being noticed
try it.
>>76636757
As opposed to an "I've taken an intro-level handgun class therefore I know everything" thread
>>76636873
Bait.
>Itt: retarded ameriburgers hopelessly trying to show "muh rights"
>>76636757
I can't see the rest of his body so I can't tell if high ride is stupid for him or not. Generally speaking, for most body parts, it is.
>>76636937
And we're getting rid of NATO, too.
>>76637040
*body types
>>76637057
Please do were tired of our politicians constantly getting cucked by yours
>>76636102
>Going in and out of my home and my vehicle I usually conceal carry. Mainly because I completely ignore businesses with posted signs barring firearms and I don't feel like dealing with some low IQ store manager.
To me it seems more respectful toward the people you interact with to be openly carry. People may want to act different, perhaps more careful knowing you have a gun. You should not deprive them of that option.
Open carry just shows the perpetrator who to kill first. You're like the guards that always get taken out first before a heist
>>76636923
>lives in a nigger community
>>76637233
I guess you have a point. In an ideal world everybody would be carrying a gun so this would be a non issue.
>>76636920
no, but i'm not going to let people trade myths about "getting the drop on them" for free. i have open carried every day since it was made legal in texas, january 1st, and i get nothing but thumbs up from passers-by, waves hello from the police, smiles from some of the ladies, and one or two grown-ass "men" staring fixatedly on the gun instead of nodding hello when walking by.
also one nigger yelled after me "ayyyy, gun man, YEUH" from his car, which... i'm not sure i know what that's supposed to mean
>>76637040
i don't think high ride is that much of a mistake when you've resolved to carry without a retention device, but i don't personally like it myself, either.
what really matters is that you master your system, whatever your system may be. your whole body is the weapon platform.
>>76637380
I really don't at all. I would feel 100% safe without carrying. I just carry because it is better to have it and not need it instead of need it and not have it.
It's also simply another "accessory" I put on when I leave the house. Nothing more...
It's faggots like you that put firearms on a pedestal like they are a big deal in the hands of law abiding citizens when they are really no big deal at all. It's because you lack any sort of gun culture and are a pathetic worm like the rest of the Americans with their scarred psyche from watching to many episodes of 60 minutes and 20/20.
>>76636440Absolutely this.Open carry is for mall ninjas and tactifools. The best thing about Texas' new open carry law is that I no longer have to worry if my gun prints on accident.
>>76637604
>afraid of his fellow white American
>>76637844
>afraid of an inanimate object
open carry so i can recognize people who are so terrified of daily life they feel they need to carry a lethal weapon with them at all times
>>76636222
>Concealed is objectively better, you don't want people knowing that you have a gun. It's better to catch them offguard.
Nice trips. Also depending on the area, you'll have people freak out that you have a gun and get the cops called on you.
>>76637943
>compensating for tiny thin penis
>>76637233
>it's just like the movies
yeah, you want an excuse for not watching the door, then you keep telling yourself that. just do us all a favor and don't ever carry a gun no matter how you wear it.
>>76637545
It's just body mechanics. High ride works best for slim build, long torso, short armed individuals. And he'd likely want a more forward cant than he has. But, I agree, master the system you have.
>>76636102
I conceal Carry. Since I live in a liberal shithole *cough* (Portland, Oregon) *cough* *cough* I don't want a fucking retard thinking he's going to go full "hero" and try to take my firearm thinking they are protecting the public. I use a Sig Sauer P226 (Same pistol Darren Wilson used to remove nignog) with .40 Saving Whites.
>>76638312
I'm a girl tho
>>76639038
>roleplaying as a girl
>gun owner
May god have mercy on America
I've been CCing for a while now-need a new shoulder holster, though, since I got a new gun (a Glock 34). Right now, I use a Tokarev with Privi JHP in a shitty Falco holster.
Tons of people do it up here, just few openly admit to it. Hell, my LGS not only knows I carry, but approves, saying they "feel safer" when people do in-store. The owner has expressed frustration at how hard it is to get permission for his employees to carry.
OC with a NR firearm for the purposes of transportation is totally legal, it just has to be unloaded. But most people don't know that, so the cops will inevitably be called.
>>76636102
I do both depending on my mood and where I am going.
Both are fine.
>>76638312
>can't stop thinking about other men's dicks
wow, what a fag
OC
>MUH 2ND AMENDMENT! MUH TEA PARTY! WE'RE GONNA HAVE US A SUPER CONSTITUTION!
CC
>A normal gun owner
>>76639147
You must be one of those nu-males that are disconnected with reality
>>76636826
here's everything you need to know about the "concealed only!" gun owner's position.
presenting a gun has a massively powerful deterrence factor, in favor of a would-be victim (kleck)
http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-people-be-allowed-to-carry-guns-openly/open-carry-deters-crime
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Gun-Rights-Self-Defense-Deterrent.htm
etc. etc. i'm sure you can find more links
criminals are not movie heist men. they are cowards. they choose victims; they choose the time and place. and their choices are "smart," in that they will always opt for overwhelming force, shock and awe. this means they will choose targets that look unarmed or look like they will bitch out and comply.
when you say open carry makes you a target, what you are saying is
>i'm a gun owner and owning guns is great because if you have it, it deters crime!
>uhh it won't work unless it's a) out, in my hand, like at low ready and/or aimed at someone, or b) totally and completely hidden inside my clothes, inaccessible unless both my hands are free.
>if you put it in a holster but leave all that visible it stops working :^)
absolute fucking insanity.
open carriers are a walking crime deterrent AND they can draw faster AND both open and concealed advocates should have their head on a fucking swivel EVEN when they leave their gun at home that day. condition yellow, at all times.
>>76639336
>Not wanting both but preferring one over the other
>>76639370
>inguinal channel
ehhh. demonstrably unsafe.
Depends. Open if I'm going to the range. Conceal if I'm jist doing my day to day.
I carry a Russian Makarov. Sure it doesn't have the capacity of a glock or whatever, but it NEVER malfunctions, and it's a tack driver. I shoot it better than I do my 1911 or my USP 40.
>>76639370
>/pol/
>the reality
LMAO leave your moms basement once in a while. The world is changing with or without you.
>>76636102
You should only have guns for specific times. Not whenever you feel like it.
>>76636222
This is very true. When you go from trying to avoid the situation to being ready to kill the other guy, it freaks them the fuck out, and in a way that is to your advantage.
OTOH, open carry is good if enough people do it. If you're the lone guy open carrying, most people will leave you the fuck alone, but if somebody decides to do something to you, the target that you're wearing is squarely on your back. If every other guy is open carrying, no sane person is going to fuck with anybody.
Funny thing is, if you open carry like the pic in OP, most people won't even notice.
Hillary will make sure you can't carry open or concealed. She doesn't believe the 2nd Amendment allows you to own a gun.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/08/its-pretty-clear-clinton-does-not-think
>>76636102
Conceal because some dumb nigger chimp might grab it and shoot me
>>76639575
You rarely know when you're going to need it until all of a sudden, you need it.
>>76639691
I don't care what Shillary says. The Constitution says otherwise.
>>76639765
You do not need them just to walk about.
>>76639693
>he'd let a nigger get that close to him even if he didn't have a gun on
PAY
>>76639575
>i'm all powerful and all knowing so you only need a gun when i decide you need one
*tips bandoliers*
>>76636102
In principle I'd prefer it if all responsible Citizens were armed and carried open.
In practice most people don't want to open carry and my driving reason for carrying is protection. Having my weapon concealed gives me an edge and greater chance of surviving a violent encounter. If they see I have a weapon I am immediately a target. Easier to pretend to be helpless and get the drop on them.
>>76636765
Yeah, I've had that happen to me too. I was wondering if that can truly prevent me from buying a gun.
>>76639556
I prefer with, which is why I carry. ;^)
>>76639923
legally yes
but I can still easily get a gun
>>76636222
this, plus you make bystanders uncomfortable and become a distraction if you a retarded and take an AR-15 to lunch at Chipotle
>>76636102
Concealed. OC gives a bad image. Some people have valid reasons to be afraid of guns. I don't mind, but others do.
>>76639518
Muh baby
>>76639798
Yes, you do. When you need it, it is unexpected and you don't have time to go back to your safe and get it, because doing so is a good way to get it in the back. I carry everywhere because I understand this very simple concept that you fail to grasp.
>>76640030
That's fucked up. I was wanting to get a nice revolver soon and conceal carry.
>>76640099
>America is the wildwest still
>>76639378
Thanks senpai. Always good advice to keep your guard up and be alert. With or without a gun but definitely with a gun. A concealed carry doesn't make it invisible anyways. If you look close enough you can tell.
>>76640140
It's worse in most major cities. Detroit for example.
>>76640116
I think there is a way to get permission from your sheriff to legally buy one.
>>76636102
Conceal.
Had a cc permit, never left my gun at home.
Didn't renew it, but still carry sometimes.
I'll only open carry on hikes or camping trips.
>>76640140
We have violent gangs, dumbass. I dare you to go to the South side of Chicago and walk through it at night, unarmed.
>>76636102
I carry a knife, I do not have a gun permit yet.
However, the only people who have guns are the police, security, and gang members, if you shoot kill a gang member sooner or later someone will come with a professional objective to kill you, a gun wont save you.
Common criminals usually do not have guns or guns that do not work, so I am fine with a sharp knife.
>>76636765
>>76640030
I just looked into it. I'm in Florida and the Baker Act doesn't prevent me from getting a gun. Nice.
>>76636102
>tfw have that gun in the 3.8" barrel
I want to CC it but I just open carry for now until I buy a new holster. I live in AZ so it's not uncommon to see ppl open carrying. Though you do get some weird looks every now and then.
>>76640236
I wouldn't even do that armed man. You'd need a dozen other armed men.
>>76638995
i used to carry a .45 P220, but now i carry a 9mm P320.
if i were in your position i would still open carry and just stare them down. they're not gonna close distance on you. go to whatever crowded or semi-crowded area you're concerned about, concealed or disarmed whatever you like, and actively practice planning your movements and other people's movements as you go about. if anyone looks at you, or looks out of place, or just piques your attention somehow, practice your condition orange on him. who cares if it looks weird? your story is that they were looking at you funny so you avoided them.
OC everyday.
>>76640084
Something is horribly wrong with my bluing.
>>76640236
>walking through the South Side at night
Nigger, you need 7-10 good men to survive that.
>>76640283
Az as well.
>>76640140
>America is the wildwest still
The "wildwest" (when everyone was armed) was much tamer than modern day.
>>76640068
If people are afraid, then put trigger warnings on them!
>carlos.jpg
>>76640236
>This is the first world
Not worth the increased money or lifespan to be honest.
>>76636102
>open carry
How much of douchenozzle would you have to be to do this?
>>76639915
yeah well you won't get to point B from point A by talking shit or theorycrafting on a maori rock-carving teletype exchange.
be the change you want to see in the world, and open carry.
>Having my weapon concealed gives me an edge and greater chance of surviving a violent encounter.
already disproved this earlier
>If they see I have a weapon I am immediately a target.
this is a myth; if you are a target, you already were selected
>Easier to pretend to be helpless and get the drop on them.
you're right. that is easier. it's also easier to let your husband run the rest of your life, too, and just suck his cock.
>>76640398
Damn, son! That's some serious battle scars. Or just neglect from a previous owner. I don't know what year mine is, it's harder to find on the Russian model ones like mine. Is yours a Bulgarian one?
>>76636102
I CC
>closeted gunfag
>>76640520
You really cant rely on that shit because it factors in all the niggers and spics in this country who do nothing but destroy.
>>76640520
>live 7,41 years longer
I knew Belarus was bad, but damn... Do you do like the Chinese and butcher newborn girls or what's going on here?
I conceal carry every day, whenever I'm outside my home.
I don't abide by gun free zones (which in my case is public transit, work, etc.)
It's a misdemeanor and $150 fine first offense, and the only time I'd get found out is if I had to use it.
The best part is that concealed weapons are concealed. And as long as you aren't a fucking idiot, the only time you'd get caught for having it is if you had to use it in a lawful manner.
I pocket carry a .357 revolver. Short range because I'm not looking to get into a gun fight, I'm looking to put a fist sized hole in a huge nigger that gets in my face.
>>76636102
>Do you open or conceal carry /pol/? What are the pros/cons of both? Discuss.
I don't live in niggerville so I don't feel the need to do either. I can't imagine the poor life decisions that would lead to someone feeling like they had to walk around all day with a gun strapped to their hip.
>>76640068
>OC gives a bad image.
oh, "to be despised by the despicable." it is indeed the sweetest.
there is little better in life than to see a thousand butthurt thoughts visibly pass across the face of some old feminist hag as she notices my sidearm. call the cops, i don't give a fuck. if you don't like america, there's always yurop.
>>76640741
People drinking themselves to death.
>>76636102
>I carry guns around
Kek, only cringe worthy edge lords do that
>>76636102
Concealed. Open is a little more comfortable, but I don't want the attention.
>>76639378
There's little difference between open and concealed, level 1 and level 4 draw times.
>>76640743
How do you concea carry at work? This is the only place I can't and it's also the place I'm most likely to need it. I work at a hospital surrounded by niggers. I have a fair bit of a walk to employee parking. It's fine in the winter but in the summer time the nogs walk around, probably looking for nurses to rape.
>>76640834
Ugly stock on that thing. I like mine better.
>>76640547
Nigger I am not trying to be this shiny bold inspiring symbol for gun rights in public. I just want to go about my day and know I have the power to protect myself and others. Wearing open causes more headaches then it is worth. Businesses get bitchy and cops get called over nothing.
>>76640583
Yeah just a dirty dirty bulgy. Put 650ish rounds through it the past few weeks. Have not had a single misfire. It may be heavy and low capacity but it will laser when you pull the trigger.
>conceal carry
For personal safety this is the preferred method. Conceal carrying should be legal at the federal level, covering all states.
>open carry
No reason not to have it. Most of the time it's not practical to open carry, but politicians & wannabe tyrants should be reminded that the people have arms. We should be able to walk down Times Square with ARs strapped to our back, but that's not the world we live in yet.
But if you're going to open carry, at least look presentable. If you're fat, don't OC. If you dress like trash, don't OC.
>>76640805
OCing a handgun is fine, OCing a raifu is for retards who desperately crave attention
>>76640283
im jelly
>>76640834
>dat trigger discipline
>>76636102
Concealed for obvious reasons. People won't expect death when fucking with you... that's when you surprise them.
>>76640834
youve never even shot a gun you stupid nip bastard.
>>76640531
Wouldn't want to offend the rattlesnakes would I?
>>76640253
Holy fucking shit dude:
>Government data show 6,657 people were murdered in the small country last year, a 70% increase from 2014. The homicide rate of 104 people per 100,000 is the highest for any country in nearly 20 years, according to data from the World Bank.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/01/07/el-salvador-homicide-rate-honduras-guatemala-illegal-immigration-to-united-states/78358042/
I'd want an M1 Abrams to go through one of your ghettos.
>>76640923
I love my Ruskie one. I've put probably 2500 rounds through it over the last 3 years I've had it, and have yet to see it misfire. It shoots whether it's dirty or clean. Cheap or expensive ammo. Wet or dry. It's my favorite handgun.
Only time I open carry is innawoods. Call me a coward, but the less attention drawn to you on the street the better. Nothing against open carrying though, I've had good conversations with a few people who do.
>>76640947
dunno, OCing a rifle is exactly what you do when its your only option because OCing a handgun was banned. activism aside, though, you probably want a rifle out in the sticks. handgun's not gonna do much for you at range unless you're bane-sized and carry a 10mm meme gun. they just don't shoot flat enough.
>>76636102
a razão pela qual eu nem vou pra capão da canoa é porque no mÃnimo aquela merdinha da helena e do fernando vão pra mesma praia de pedófilo que esse casal de velho retardado dos meus pais vão
conceal only
open is the bright hair dye of the right
>>76641055
I don't need one since I have a dick, and learning martial arts is sufficient to defend yourself.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/09/court-no-right-to-carry-concealed-weapons-in-public.html
>>76640887
I wear business casual each day. Khakis and polo/button down shirt.
I've found pocket carry to be STUPIDLY convenient. I literally forget it's there, and it blends pretty well. A lump in someones pocket isn't that suspicious.
Depends on clothing. Light material, certain colors or tightness can make you print far worse, but it works very well with my clothes and is beyond comfortable.
>>76640937
>open carry
while I prefer to concealed carry, I think I should have the right to carry my 9mm on my hip in a hip holster. A detective can do it, I should be able to as well.
>>76641193
Of course it's sufficient for you. You live in a country with next to zero niggers.
>>76641100
The Glock 20 and Glock (Model) 40 are pussycats to shoot. You don't need to be Bane sized.
>>76641156
>the reason I 'm not even going to Capon Canoe is because at least that little shit of Helena and Fernando go to the beach of pedophile that this couple old retarded my parents will
If you say so
>>76636102
both. i live in ny and have to cc in public. but on the job i open carry (and cc too)
>>76641054
>yes sir officer he had his gun pointed at me and he waited politely for 3 full seconds while i pulled back by coat, drew my gun, aimed, addressed the trigger, and fired
>well no your honor they weren't actually looking at me but they had guns out so i knew i had to shoot one and there was definitely no other option like running out of the bank with the rest of the patrons
have fun getting assfucked in prison!
>>76636880
Open carriers confirmed for retarded.
>>76640887
Belly band with a slim line .380.
>>76641271
Yeah that's what I wear. So you just pack a 380 in a wallet holster?
>>76641305
oh i suppose. i'm just exaggerating i guess. for you.
>>76640780
>I don't live in niggerville so I don't feel the need to do either.
Then maybe you should shut the fuck up about the matter, since your opinions are meaningless?
>I can't imagine the poor life decisions that would lead to someone feeling like they had to walk around all day with a gun strapped to their hip.
I bet you can't imagine a lot of things.
>>76641450
Thanks senpai. Maybe you saved my life one day.
>>76641301
>implying nigs are the only ones responsible for the high homicide rate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
I wish I could CC one of these bad boys.
https://youtu.be/j2uc7xrOeao
The sound of these going off makes my dick hard.
>>76639163
>Tokarev
Fuck yeah, old steel is based. I have a P-64 and a Don Hume IWB for summertime/light clothing carry.
Aestheticfudd here. Guns are supposed to be made of metal and wood.
>>76641193
>nip thinks 2 inches is a dick
When has martial arts stopped a bullet?
>>76641662
>school shootings
>statistically meaningful
Choose one. More nogs die in a single weekend in our inner cities than in any school shooting.
>>76641662
It's really too bad more teachers aren't armed. We do entrust them to take care of our children, after all.
>>76640780
Liberal tears or bait. Either are delicious.
>>76636102
Concealed just to avoid making some ignorant uneducated soccer mom or millenial college kid lose their shit and call a cop on you because they don't realize it's legal.
>>76641662
Sure guy
Look at the crime statistics for Chicago. 60 people were shot over Memorial Day weekend alone
>>76640887
So why do you work in a hospital surrounded by niggers? I would quit if I felt like I needed to carry a gun around all day, holy shit. Should have stayed in school so you didn't have to work in such an unsafe place.
>>76641662
>Implying that school shootings have a noticeable effect on our homicide rates.
>>76639163
Oh shit, you're alive! You still sleep with your Tokarev under your pillow, or was that the other guy on /k/?
>>76640743
Details on the revolver pls.
Oddly enough, it's probably safer for me to do neither. I leave mine at home.
>>76641193
youre a fucking retard. The fact that you can fight with your hands doesnt really mean shit.
Ya you are going to look real manly when your kung fu doesnt stop a bullet and you are stretched out all over the ground.
why the fuck you think they invented swords and bow n arrows? to fucking live thats why.
>>76641842
making a false police report is a crime. you just worried about your spaghetti or do you live in one of those totalitarian states? officers are usually bros.
>>76641662
niggers commit way more violent crime than whites so your comparison is as fucking stupid as your statements.
you should just die for being a little pussy bitch about this.
What's a good first gun /pol/? I've only used pic related a few times when I was a kid so it's been about 13 years since I lasted used a gun.
>>76640084
impressive, anon. Do you find that the target sights snag more easily or is that overblown?
>>76640398
yikes. I personally consider rebluing haraam but that's awful and I'd make an exception in your case.
>>76642199
If you were open carrying in my neighborhood, someone would call the cops and you would be asked to leave. If you didn't, you would be forced to leave.
>>76642085
A good chunk of human history can be looked at as an arms race. We get violent sometimes. You can either accept that reality and prepare yourself physically and mentally, or you can be a perpetual serf and victim. It's that simple.
>>76641193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYl2KCdFNgo
>i'll just grab his wrist
looool
>>76636880
all it takes is a well chucked brick. All open carry does is make you a target. Guns aren't a magical catch all, and putting yourself at a disadvantage is pretty fucking dumb.
>>76642085
>why the fuck you think they invented swords and bow n arrows? to fucking live thats why.
Are you stuck in the middle ages or something?
>Ya you are going to look real manly when your kung fu doesnt stop a bullet and you are stretched out all over the ground.
I don't mind since I don't live in a shithole like Syria or see any guns here.
>>76642272
Any of these
>>76642381
when i am asked to leave, i leave. but since i live in texas, when i'm in public, dispatch will tell you that you should leave -- and remind you that a false police report is a crime.
>>76642199
Officers are fine, but I just dont like dealing with the hassle. Plus you never know when some liberal news source picks it up and paints a story about how this poor mother was only trying to do the right thing and shes being punished for being provoked by someone with a loophole and blah blah blah. Just not worth it to even deal with these people.
>>76642362
I've never had a problem with the sights snagging. I've heard of complaints about it, but I guess it depends on your draw, as it's never been a problem with mine.
>>76642381
KEK, in my state, a cop can get sued for merely detaining you if the only reason that he did so was that you are open carrying.
>>76636102
Concealed carry is better. The idea that anyone could have a hidden weapon deters people more than having a finite and obvious number of people armed.
If you open carry you just tell a criminal who to either avoid or take out first, concealed protects everyone in a community.
>>76637183
What if the store gets robbed while you're in there?
>>76640084
Glorious dickgrips
>>76642530
I lived in Texas. The result would be the same. We don't want rednecks, niggers, poor people, or anyone who thinks open carrying a gun around is an appropriate thing to do in our neighborhood. You can scream all you want about your rights, they'll find a reason to put you out and then they'll put you out. If they can't find one, they'll make one up. That's why I love not living in niggerville. It keeps out the niggers as well as trash like you.
>>76642454
>throwing a brick 21 feet without anyone seeing it coming
lol, again, just go outside, and try it
>putting yourself at a disadvantage is pretty fucking dumb
since you know that, you should probably read those earlier posts which make it obvious, to any honest and reasonable person, that concealed carry puts you at a significant disadvantage once a draw is both lawful and necessary. and work on becoming more honest, and more reasonable.
>>76640084
Nice dick grips /k/.
>>76642468
Why the suicide rate so high bud?
>>76642570
Again, if we want you out, you'll go. Good luck finding a lawyer that will take your case. You'll have to import one. All the good ones live here, along with the prosecutor and a circuit court judge. Does, "It's best if you let this one go" mean anything to you?
What do all you lads carry?
>>76636102
Don't have a gun... I live in Memphis... I should probably get one and carry it in my car because the castle doctrine allows for it here.
>>76642847
>>76642718
Thanks. I prefer the brown ones over the cheap black Bakail ones it came with.
>>76642759
Where do you live? Oh you won't say? Opinion discarded.
>>76636102
Having two guns and carry both open and concealed at the same time
>>76642535
i have no qualms with that, because what you are doing is making a choice. freely.
i'm just telling you that it's been since january 1st and exactly none of this has happened here. i haven't missed a day yet out in public without my sidearm.
i am filling in the gaps for the data we don't yet have which in time i am certain will show that open carry is a deterrent, and objectively better when not considering bytstanders' fee-fees, and that this disadvantage in this one scenario that the fudds keep parroting in their blogs simply does not exist.
>>76642930
And I'll end up garnishing $10k-$20k from that cop's paycheck. Similar cases have already been tried in the courts in my state, and the cops will lose. Since it's a 42 USC S 1983 case, 42 USC S 1988 comes into play, which means that the cop would also have to pay my attorney's fees. It would be easy to find an attorney.
>>76643108
Oh sure, let me give my address on fucking 4chan. You nincompoop.
>>76642759
i don't just live in texas. i live in DFW. i carry in deep ellum, and funnily enough, there's been a lot fewer vagrants around since i started. it really makes you think.
>>76636102
>tfw Turkish made pistol sells for 400usd in U.S of A. and around 850usd in Turkey
How is that fair, we have less wealth and they tax us more for pistols, you can't even pay for an automatic rifle here. I wish we had same gun laws with USA.
>>76643563
anzu... you don't need a gun
>>76643178
If you actually believe this, you've never even seen the inside of an upper-middle class neighborhood. Remember that drunk teenager that killed four people and got off because he was too rich to go to jail? Hell, a DuPont raped a baby and he got off. What makes you think you can fight something like that.
You people think you're rich, but you don't know wealth.
>>76640039
>ar 15
>chipotle
You'd be better off with an m32 filled with turds. Chipotle supplies unlimited ammo for those things.
>>76642513
>no Five-Seven and P250
uhm you're doing it wrong
>>76643680
It doesn't matter if I need it or not you cuck, go elbow some feminists.
>>76643216
What the fuck are you even doing in Deep Ellum? Are you white? Stay in Las Colinas, retard. Some jigga is gonna get the drop on you.
>>76643126
Maybe even a decoy arm grasping the decoy gun
then your real arm is inside your duster, pointing your real gun right at them
Why aren't Americans doing this?
Are you all stupid?
>>76642513
thanks /k/
>>76642229
>>76641301
>You live in a country with next to zero niggers.
>niggers commit way more violent crime than whites
And who were the ones that brought tons of them in in the first place? Looks like your ancestors made the wrong decision.
>>76643727
The cop would still lose. It has already happened here. If you don't believe it, you don't know jack shit about the legal system.
>>76643856
lol 40 cents a round
>>76643765
Also, I heard the Indian army fills their m32 grenade launchers with their poo
>>76643183
>role-playing as a rich kid libshit on 4chan
>>76643958
>thinks the legal system is in any way relevant to actually wealthy people
We make the rules, Jethro.
>>76644021
Curry makes good blasting powder amirite?
>>76643563
If you had the same laws, how would Erdogan remove any publishers that spoke against him?
It's all about controlling the populace. It's why the Left here in the US want to disarm the Common Man. Boy is that ironic...
>>76641927
I have a bedside table, no pillow guns here.
>>76641730
I like both old and new guns. I won't deny that, much as the lines on my Tok are sexier, the G34 is nicer to shoot.
>>76641898
>I would quit
Confirmed for NEET.
None of you will do shit. :) Enjoy your gun bans while you sit on the computer jacking off to anime :))
>>76644148
>Doesn't understand the legal system
I would go directly after the people enforcing the law, and wouldn't have standing to go after the wealthy people. They wouldn't have standing to intervene on the cop's behalf either. What cop is going to suck some rich guy's dick when the wealthy guy is going to forget about the cop after he nuts in his mouth, and I'm going to take his paycheck for it? None.
ITT: white trash who lives around spics and niggers.
It sure feels good to live in a mostly white city. I don't even need a gun, I have a dog for home defense.
>>76643856
It says 9mm tho
>>76642513
>first gun list, no revolvers.
>>76643128
>fudds
Fuck off. The second amendment acknowledges my right to defend myself, my loved ones, and my property from criminals and a tyrannical state. I still think your approach is wrong-headed and will end up doing more harm than good. Normies will not be forcibly red pilled into accepting seeing guns everywhere in public. That will terrify them and they will vote in massive numbers to support sweeping anti-2A measures.
>>76643924
They did. But ancestors didn't have the option to carry a semi automatic pistol. I do, and I choose to use that option. My ancestors also fought and died for my right to possess such a weapon. Whether I choose to exercise that right is no concern of yours, unless you try to harm me.
>>76642513
fuck 9mm get a .45
>>76643727
>Remember that drunk teenager that killed four people and got off because he was too rich to go to jail?
You guys are dipshits. Do you know why the kid got off? It was because the people were in the road illegally.
Hell, if he hadn't of had any alcohol in his system he wouldn't have gotten any legal trouble at all. In my city a newspaper deliverer nailed some drunk dude who was illegally in the road at about 3 am. The newspaper deliverer didn't face any charges because... hey, the stupid fuck was in the road.
Somehow, everything changes if the driver had a few drinks. "WAHHH A BIG BAD DRUNK DRIVER HIT SOMEONE!" Well, people should stay the fuck out of the road.
Ethan Couch didn't deserve any jail time for hitting stupid fucks who were illegally in the road on foot.
>>76644208
>how would Erdogan remove any publishers that spoke against him?
Same way you guys do, by undermining them with extreme media control and weird cult connections. It's not like you guys are using them to defend yourselves against brainwashing your media does to you. But it's handy when you need it, usually in your lifetime it's going to be more handy against some crooks than the government since you can't fuck with them whatever you have. And don't give me that militia napkin math.
>It's why the Left here in the US want to disarm the Common Man.
I'm glad gun freedom will exist somewhere in the world we live in I guess. We can get shotguns and rifles easily, I mean we can get pistols as well but they cost so much than they need to and that way it's easier to control purchase since people think that it's not a priority or essential need, like car and a house and other things.
>>76644681
More people are killed every year with smaller caliber guns than bigger ones. It's not the size of the round, it's shot placement.
>>76643856
CS is not real life.
>>76644546
I hear you, brother. ITT: Poor people disparaging other poor people.
>>76644667
>Whether I choose to exercise that right is no concern of yours, unless you try to harm me
Don't worry, I won't harm my burger allies.
>>76636102
Open looks fucking badass with a chest holster. Wish that open carry was legal over here.
>>76644971
I guarantee that shot placement is less important when you are carrying a 44 mag than it is when you are carrying a 22lr. Both are important. The reason that most deaths are going to come from smaller caliber guns has to do with what most thugs carry around.
>>76644546
>break into house
>toss guard dog a steak
>murder family
>loot valuables
>go home with new pupper
>>76644479
Enjoy your delusion ;^)
>>76636102
>Do you open carry?
No. That's a good way to go to jail if you wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
>Do you conceal carry?
Yes. Because I never know when I'll need to put a bullet between me and a criminal, or a criminal and some innocent bystander(s).
>>76645504
>Implying a burglar would proceed to trespass into a house with a dog instead of looking for another house
>Implying the guard dog wouldn't wake up the occupants with its barking prior to being tossed a steak
You guys don't know anything about burglars. They're opportunists. They don't plan ahead like bringing steaks with them. Look at your local police logs. They fuckin'... open unlocked car doors to steal valuables. The smallest amount of planning can prevent 99% of crime occurring. Lock your locks and own a dog and it's very unlikely you will ever get shit stolen.
>>76645060
Because guns and ammo are so cheap, right? How old are you, kid?
>>76645699
>or a criminal and some innocent bystander(s).
Serious question. Would you really do this? I have my CHL and carry everywhere I legally can, but I'm only looking out for myself and my family. If others don't want to protect themselves that's their problem, I'm not a cop and I don't get afforded the same legal protections they do in a shooting incident.
Open carry when at all possible. It's balls hot where I live 9 months out of the year so concealing is pointless. You print like crazy in a tshirt and shorts.
I only conceal when I know the place has a policy against guns. Large amphitheater near my house that doesn't allow guns but doesn't actively screen either.
Conceal. Open is too obvious and a lot of places won't let you in if you're open carrying.
>>76646180
Don't businesses have a right to disallow guns on their premises?
I thought you guys supported the rights of private property owners on here.
>>76641898
I'm an accountant idiot. It's a good job. Great benefits.
>>76645783
>But don't own a gun or do anything self-reliant cuz that would trigger my inferiority complex and thoughts of how homo I am would flash through my mind while begin crying
>>76636102
Conceal
Open carry autists give gun owners a bad name
>>76646337
They have a right to ask you to leave. Their private property does not strip you of your constitutional rights.
>>76646429
>>76646429
Why should I own a gun? Guns are expensive and a hassle if I buy one. Then I got to worry about how I am going to sell it one day, if the law is going to change someday which makes my certain type of firearm illegal, I got to worry about keeping it clean and rust-free, I got to worry about transporting it if I ever move (What if I move to another state?), etc.
Guns are a headache. If I live in a white city and own a dog for home defense then why should I purchase a gun? I'm not a hunter nor do any of my hobbies require the use of a firearm.
>>76646337
They can trespass you for not following ther rules, but your rights don't end at their property line.
>>76646907
You shouldn't own one, you're too much of a weenie. Since you're obviously an emotional thinker, you'd probably murder someone in a fit of rage, and you know that, which is why you come to these weird anti-gun rationalizations.
>>76647202
> but your rights don't end at their property line.
Yes they do. The 2nd amendment doesn't guarantee a person the right to carry a gun onto private property.
You guys don't know shit on here.
>>76647373
What crime would I be charged with if I was to carry my gun into your house where you've banned guns?
>>76636102
>>76646907
Sounds like you fear responsibility to me.
Why was your first post in this thread negative, yet you rely on gun-wielding, *poor* cops like me to protect your stupid ass?
>>76644869
Your President had armed men seize your largest Newspaper. That's pretty different. Here the mainstream media is biased as Hell, but at least there's still disparity. We have Fox and MSNBC, who many would argue are opposites of each-other (in reality only on social issues). We have tons and tons of talk shows, newspapers, and websites preaching borderline anti-government propaganda from all over the political spectrum. Are you actually telling me that your media isn't an echo chamber by comparison?
I'm not preaching about my country being fantastic by the way, but that's just silly. I'm saying the only reason a government wants to disarm its populace is so it can avoid armed uprising.
Militia napkin math? That must be a mistranslation or something.
>>76647305
>>76647305
Emotional thinker? lol, where did you get that from? I listed a bunch of logical reasons why owning a gun is a headache: have to sell it someday or give it to family as inheritance, have to keep it in certain temperature range free of humidity so that it doesn't rust, have to be aware of gun laws in case the law changes and makes your certain type of firearm illegal or have to be registered, have to worry about transporting it across state laws if a person is required to move, have to worry about who has access to it in case a person has kids in the house or roommates, etc.
Owning a gun is a headache and can easily get you in legal trouble. I mean, the laws surrounding guns change each and every year. One year you're allowed to carry a gun in a certain place, and the next year you're not. Owning a gun requires a shitload of effort. All for what? In case you ever have to shoot someone? Like that is a realistic concern. If you own a dog and live in a city where the cops respond in a matter of minutes I don't see how it's worth the trouble, but that's my opinion.
>>76648177
>I have to
>I have to
>worry
>worry
Gee, I don't know where I got the idea that you're a worry wart. You sound like one of those neurotic jews from a Woody Allen film.
>>76648177
Not who you're talking to, but what state do you live in? Some states make possession onerous, others do not. Just trying to get an idea of why you feel this way.
>>76648177
wew lad I don't know what horrible state you live in but it's way more trouble to own a car, which is also a deadly weapon.
>>76648439
Do you disagree that there are a shitload of laws surrounding guns that are likely to change from one year to the next, and that a person can easily get in legal trouble for something related to firearms?
>>76648659
Yes. Emphatically. I also agree that you personally should not own a gun.
>>76636707
>All open carry does is let me know where to get a gun if I need one
>teleports behind you
>unholsters 1911
>beheads you with gunkata
>"Heh, nothin personell, pilgrim."
>>76648177
How come the cops didn't instantly teleport here when they were called? You live in a bubble.
https://youtu.be/5bsAMSQ13bY
>>76638312
>muh dick guns
Didn't see that one coming
>>76642454
>stealing a gun from someone with a brick to the head
so you like getting shot by police instead?
this is nigger tier behavior
>>76640253
>kill 2 bit junkie on the street
>"Oh no, the professional assassins are coming to get me with garrotes and poison needles!"
>>76648788
Well you're full of shit and likely a stupid teenager.
>>76648912
What if the "machete-wielding intruder" had his own gun instead?
"I need a gun to protect myself from people with weapons... they could even have a gun!" This is fucking stupid circular reasoning.
I prefer conceal just because I don't want to deal with the bullshit but I have no problem with my open carry bros trying to get people to quit being such pussies about guns. It's an uphill battle but they're doing it.
>>76649353
>This is fucking stupid circular reasoning.
ill take that over "he could have a weapon, I better disarm myself ahead of time"
>>76648094
>Your President had armed men seize your largest Newspaper.
Are you talking about Zaman? It's not the largest newspaper, and there are anti government newspapers around, tho majority of what you hear are pro government and they're exactly that echo chamber you're talking about.
All I'm saying is government finds a way to control people through several forces and having a gun (as far as I see) doesn't change the outcome, at least in USA, tho it'd most likely make the process longer.
Militia napkin math is that armed civilian count vs the government forces. It usually doesn't come to that, at least I haven't seen any recent events, but having access to more weapons is always better, even though you can't prevent lots of things.
>I'm saying the only reason a government wants to disarm its populace is so it can avoid armed uprising.
They're not effectively trying to disarm us since we don't have a gun epidemic like you guys, and like I said it's not impossible to get a legal pistol or rifle, it's around twice as much cost compared to USA tho, and that combined with gun owners here seen as what we call "maganda"(like un-wise and unreasonable human being) probably makes people on government at ease with gun control since it's not seen as necessity.
>>76644535
He's role playing
>>76648912
cardboard doors
To all you concealed carry guys, have you ever actually had to use/show it? Any stories?
