> Oh yeah, I'll give up my gun?
> They have to take it from my muh cold dead hands
You now what? That's absurd. That's ludicrous. That's not gonna happen.
You gonna roll over like the pets that you are. You gonna just give up your gun. The minute President Hillary says, that if you don't give up your gun, you gonna to be arrested or penalized, you'll gonna do it. So don't sit there, and pretend that you are John Wayne or what. You're not. You're just a scared guy with a gun in your closet. And you gonna give your gun up.
First you gonna loose your 1st amendment, then you gonna loose your 2nd amendment. That's exactly what Hillary will gonna do from the first day in the White House. They did it in Germany, they did it in Austria, they did it in the UK. The vicious left did it all across Europe. You understand as I understand who she is. You understand, that if she does becomes by chance the President, we are all doomed. And if you do not convert at least two friends to the TRUMP side, it will gonna happen exactly as I told you right now. Screencap this.
>>76607240
You seriously fucking underestimate the American South.
>>76607414
The south can't beat SWAT. The second amendment hasn't properly existed for generations. The people are far less armed than the government.
>>76607240
I haven't paid taxes in five years and I have refused to buy ObamaCare, do you really think they're going to get my guns?
>>76607903
Implying the southern swat teams don't have their own personal firearm collections
Michael savage literally said this yesterday
American Police and Military are heavily in favor of run rights and are Trump supporters
Pthe raging unconstitutionality aside, othe police are very pro gun and so is the military
Who's going to enforce this?
15,000+ Police surveyed on Gun Control. Turns out they dont like gun control much and feel safer when citizens are armed.
Article
http://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-Policies/
PDF with all the questions asked to officers and results:
https://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf
Link to picture with some of the results if you dont want to see the whole PDF
http://i.imgur.com/XhnFy6C.jpg
>>76607240
>if you don't give up your gun, you gonna to be arrested or penalized
The stupidest thing I've heard all day. Who's going to do the arresting? Who's going to go door-to-door searching houses for firearms?
Think before you post.
86 percent feel the currently proposed legislation would have no effect or a negative effect on improving officer safety
Similarly, 92 percent feel that banning semi-automatic firearms, or “assault weapons,” would have no effect or a negative effect on reducing violent crime
Demonstrating the opinion that the best way to combat gun crime is through harsher punishment, 91 percent said the use of a firearm while perpetrating a crime should lead to a stiff, mandatory sentence with no plea bargains. Likewise, 59 percent believe increasing punishment severity for unlicensed dealers would reduce crime
Respondents were more split on background checks, with 31 percent agreeing that mental health background checks in all gun sales would help reduce mass shootings, while 45 percent disagreed
71 percent support law enforcement leaders who have publicly refused to enforce more restrictive gun laws within their jurisdictions
82 percent believe gun buyback or turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing the level of gun violence
91 percent support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or have not been deemed psychologically incapable
Likewise, 80 percent feel that legally-armed citizens would likely have reduced the number of casualties in recent mass shooting incidents
38 percent believe the biggest cause of gun violence in the United States is the “decline in parenting and family values”. This was trailed by “overly lax parole and short sentencing standards” at 15 percent and “pop culture influence” (eg. violent movies and video games) at 14 percent
>>76607414
nah, southerners are spineless faggots. all bark and no bite. the only thing they might actually fight you for is alcohol or meth.
I dunno, in almost any state you can keep a gun in your house legally
>>76607240
Just like the French citizens all gave up when Germany invaded, right?
Paris resistance, what's that?
keeping a gun in your home is perfectly legal in almost any state, even strict gun law states.
the problems come when you take the gun outside your home
>>76607903
>absolute
>delusion
>>76607414
You seriously fucking underestimate the American drones
>>76610367
>Semi auto
>assault weapon
If this isn't pasted, you need to stop listening to the media about guns
>>76609564
was he wrong?
>>76607240
Shut up amhed. Go back to starving yourself all day for that cuck Allah you call a god.
>>76607240
>The government can't possibly deport the 11 million illegal immigrants. It's just not logistically possible!
>The government can definitely collect all 300+ million guns in the US, it would be easy
>>76610989
Non un argomento
Pas un argument
No es un argumento
Not an argument, eh
>>76607903
>The people are far less armed than the government.
There are around 350-400 million civilian firearms in the USA m8.
Last month, americans bought enough guns to equip their entire armed forces.
>>76611143
When the tanks and drones come rolling in, those limited action rifles mean nothing.
>>76610833
They can't drone people at home. They kill far more civilians than legitimate targets in every strike and people will care when it is their friends and family and not faceless brown people half way across the world.
You also forget that drone pilots and the politicians supporting them live and raise families in our communities. They won't risk reprisal by carrying out those kind of strikes at home.
They will just stay the course and maintain the war of attrition to avoid backlash.
>>76611236
>Americans could never build EFPs
kys
>>76611236
You mean those tanks operated by US servicemen?
Doubtful they'de kill their own people.
>>76610989
country: italy
opinion: discarded
>>76611298
History says they would.
>>76611236
You mean the tanks and drones controlled by a majority republican military whose bulk of troops is in the south and thus have family there?
The tanks and drones controlled by the people who have sworn to defend the US constitution from enemies foreign AND domestic?
Or have liberals secretly build an AI powered robot army?
Stop acting like you got any allies in this matter.
Without a gun, how am I supposed to kill myself when Hillary gets elected? Hanging is for fags and arabs. Should I throw myself in the pool like A.J. Soprano? Pretty badass death if you asked me, too bad he pussied out. What were we talking about again?
>>76607240
The day the POTUS orders the US military to attack it's citizens, one of 2 things will happen. POTUS will be hung as a traitor, or the US will cease to exist.
And I really doubt the US military will turn on its own citizens
>>76607414
LMFAO @ the southtards.
Fuck the south. Bunch of loser fucking pussies.
KKKlintoon didn't do away with guns his first two terms, how the fuck is he going to do it his third and fourth terms?
Stand down you fucking tinfoil had alex joooones nutjobs. Your guns will be taken by 1,000 papercuts, not all at once.
>>76611236
>he thinks tanks and drones are autonomous units that can seize firearms
How many city blocks being destroyed would it take before you said to yourself, "hey, maybe I'm on the wrong side, here, this is some tyrannical shit?"
>>76611236
You mean those tanks and drones that require thousands of man hours of maintenence, millions of dollars of spare parts, tons of ammo and fuel, and people to fly and drive them?
Yeah, surely there are no other ways to fight tanks and drones other than head on like a fucking retard.
>>76611804
Not many when my paycheck rolls in.
>>76607240
I've wanted to die for a long time. Let somebody come and try me.
>>76607240
You don't know many Americans who aren't jet setting college students, do you? Go vacation in the southeast, Appalachia, or the west, and then see if you think you can disarm all 300 million of us peacefully.
>>76607240
5% compliance with the SAFE act in NY state.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-safe-act-weapons-registry-numbers-released-article-1.2267730
>>76611582
You do realize our country now extends west of the Mississippi, right?
>>76607240
german bro
you know absolutely nothing about our rural people, so please don't talk about them. The city folk will give up their guns and whatever else is asked of them. Rural folk out here have been the law for themselves for centuries, they barely recognize the federal government.
>>76607414
nah man the people living in the Appalachians and rural midwest/rockies are going to be the hard ones to disarm
>>76611389
And current studies done show that the majority would defect.
>>76611888
I think you meant to say something like "all of them, as long as my paycheck rolls in."
They cannot take our guns without infringing on a guaranteed right.
>>76611888
>he thinks he'll be paid and not used until he's no longer useful and then shot
>>76612284
Right, sorry.
We're not going to give up our guns ya goober. It's too easy to hide them.
>>76611236
Then they start building IED's, whats your point? If mudslimes can do it, educated americans could probably do it better. Tanks cant seize shit.
>>76611236
>tanks and drones on US soil against US citizens
You really do not understand the sort of consequences our government would immediately face at that point. As it stands, we have a huge population, our military is composed of people from rural areas with more loyalty to their individual states than to the union as a whole, and have forced so many economic sanctions and wielded so much power for so long, that the world would love for the opportunity to take down a divided United States, especially with so juicy a cause for war as attacking its citizens on home soil.
>>76611378
Hahahahaha germany, germany...Germany. Dont make us come back there. I swear to god, your beer is awesome, but get the fuck out of here. Guns are one of the things that makes america great. Dismantling the 1st or 2nd ammendment would be the war for independence part II: politicians swing in the breeze. Either come over, and arm yourself or go prep the bull.
Attack is the best defense. Hit them before they have a chance to come knock on your door. You can go wipe out federal buildings of their employees, that will make the employees in the neighbouring cities think twice about going to work and scheming to collect your weapons. It also forces them on the defense, so they won't have the manpower to go around collecting weapons since they are forced to protect their buildings and employees.
>>76607240
No germany. You've been sucking muhammads cock for too long.
Americans know that if the government tries to violate the 2nd amendment, they're tyrannical and treasonous.
It will trigger an instant civil war.
It's the line in the sand, drawn up by our founding fathers specifically as a clear marker for when a government is no longer serving its people.
You bet your ass we'll fight. Scared or not. Fuck anybody who tries to come and take my guns. They better come when i'm sleeping.
>>76611964
>>76612070
>>76612826
> t. John Wayne Weeaboo
prove me wrong
>>76613377
You still haven't even figured out who's going to go from house to house searching for firearms.
[spoiler]no one[/spoiler]
>>76611582
this. southerners are a bunch of inbred morons who couldn't industrialize.
>they think jesus will save them
>>76610950
yes
>>76607240
Wrong. I'll die and make sure some of them come with me. Or better yet. I'll run off first thing when I her that. And make sure I assassinate my governor or other state representative.
>Americans don't just lay down and die.
>>76612068
clinically retarded
>>76611888
It won't though, see ukraine.
>>76613377
Think your really important, don't you Ahmed?
>>76612826
>vote Trump
What part of this do you have any argument with?
Vote Trump if you want to keep your guns and stay out of a concentration camp. Hillary is going to holocaust everybody with German ancestry in the USA. She even said it.
>>76613377
First you have to make a argument
>UK ban all guns
>decline in gun violence
>strong increase in every other crime
>UK try to ban knives for a decline in knife violence
>repeat
US banned alcohol and the criminals did not care, many people died in crime related conflicts -> government lost and they lifted the ban
US banned drugs, increased crime statistics
Banning things will solve absolutely nothing, only a little child would came to this conclusion.
>>76613832
>Hillary is going to holocaust everybody with German ancestry in the USA. She even said it.
Wait, what?
>>76607240
It's early morning and I e got nothing to do so I'll bite.
Germany, first of all this obviously just some fantasy you constructed to suit your narrative, if you think that every one of our 141million plus gun owning population is going to hand in their guns like docile puppies, when we obviously have a lot of individuals who feel about their guns the same way Alex jones feels about his.
Secondly, I think we're both good examples in collective guilt. We both did terrible things as a nation, you guys killing scores of Jews, us surpressing and enslaving blacks until the 1960s.
Look at Germany today and Look at the US today.
Structurally because of how our governments are built the US has been able to withstand it whole Germany has pretty much capitulated to the collective guilt and is now trying to off themselves.
There are now a fuckton of Americans scared of being labeled a racist of immigration but if we do get trump, we will be great again.
>>76608066
Thanks for pitching in dicklicker.
>>76609564
savage lost me as a listener yesterday.
he was on a tirade about 'nazis' and how precious jews are. i thought he was redpilled about his own people but apparently he is not.
>>76613742
Yeah, it's clinically retarded to focus on the north/south divide, when the modern divide is the coasts vs. the interior.
>>76614474
Blood will tell.
They won't ban the guns, and they certainly won't use tanks or drones against US citizens.
They will just make the firearms impossible to use for self-defense by throwing you in prison for shooting some dindu regardless of circumstances.
They did the same all over Europe.
>>76614157
Youre talking aboht two completely different sets of societies.
-one have been under the thumb of a monarchy for centuries. Always prasing the queen and will never defy her.
-the other has been formed through defiance and selfishness and skirting the laws since day 1
>>76615392
I can certainly see that as a goal of theirs, but it would take a staggering amount of work to implement it. It's not as simple as an executive order saying "all rights to self-defense are now null and void, fuck your laws."
>>76607240
>You gonna roll over like the pets that you are.
You've never met a southern redneck have you?
Don't you have some refugees to service instead of shitposting?
>>76607240
>The minute President Hillary says, that if you don't give up your gun, you gonna to be arrested or penalized, you'll gonna do it.
not according to the most recent research which shows 100% of police refusing to enforce nonsense like this that makes their jobs harder and more life threatening.
basically what will happen is everyone will get used to police fucking with minorities even more than they do now which is exactly what mr soros wants so we will forget he exists
>>76612151
just look at the results from the CT weapons registration and imagine that across the nation
>>76613832
>Hillary is going to holocaust everybody with German ancestry in the USA. She even said it.
post link to video please
>>76607903
And some of us, much, much more.......
>>76614266
Like it or not, but it's not us trying to off ourselves so much as our government trying to wipe us out at the behest of yours (which in turn serves the Israeli one). The "collective guilt", as it were, is a tool in that but a lot less significant day-to-day than you would imagine.
That said, the abundance of people crippled by an education system designed to break them from birth into good little drones is higher in proportion over here, but even that will change if Trump cuts the arch-sociopaths' propaganda money.
All I was going to say, thanks for reading.
>>76614249
This interests me too, I did not find any such statement by her anywhere. But I would not be surprised, to be honest.
>>76607240
> "will gonna do"
LMAO
Guess how I know you're a nigger?
>>76614387
Fuck you you socialist faggot..
Obamacare is unconstitutional as fuck..
>>76610833
Oh look it's this thread again. What is it with you faggots and drones? You do realize that they still have an aircrew? They are still loaded and maintained by US servicemen. If Hillary tries to Australia us she will get shit on harder than any president in recent history. She will loose both houses for the rest of her one and only term.
i would rather legitimately hop into the grave than turn over my firearms
its a fact
>>76616734
Are you sure about that? Have you not noticed all of the shitskins who are now there to out-breed and replace you?
Youre a colossal moron and your beliefs are all faggy...
i.e. you a shit.
>>76607240
Yeah, just like my dad lost his in a "boating accident" when that happened here.
>>76617948
agree, the germans are braindead. look at all the people they let into their country
>>76607240
>>76615481
>-the other has been formed through defiance of tyranny, love of freedom, and disgust for those who think giving up freedom for security will get them anywhere
FIFY
>>76618024
Glass houses...
>>76618077
>> /thread
>>76610370
Most of the US military comes from the South.
>>76617948
Read the post again. Then think about why what you wrote makes you appear incredibly retarded. And then tell me what you're trying to pull by suggesting that the government's import of foreigners disproves that government's responsibility for what is going on.
>>76618077
did you make this? looks like stata.
>>76617596
I hate Obama care. Although it doesn't affect me because I can use a tribal hospital for free. But I work and I pay my god damn taxes you cock shuffler. I don't get high and mighty and clutch my wallet when it's time to pitch in. LIKE. EVERYONE. ELSE. BUT. SHIT. HEADS. LIKE. YOU.
You're the problem with this country.
>>76611964
How the fuck did you get an RPG launch tube??!!
>>76618376
Kys prairie nigger, our tax dollars are spent on retarded shit.
>>76618114
Both are right fellow burger
>>76607903
Was the Taliban more armed than the government then? Because its pretty much that situation, with a hell of a lot more IQ. You are wrong.
>>76607903
>The south can't beat SWAT
swat units arent super elite tactical mega cops. once they come under return fire they collapse. they kick doors in at the middle of the night and arrest people. they dont get into firefights
Most of the military and police are pro gun ownership
>>76617624
is this woman fucking stupid?
young people support gun rights because they are afraid of a police state taking over and putting them in death camps.
I do wish most guns were banned. I feel sorry for cops. Cops must think they'll be shot at any moment. Cops in places like the Uk seem much more relaxed and civil.
>>76618998
yeah, like the drug task forces, their main strength is surprising people with overwhelming force. the only thing that can deal with that is a standing professional military force on guard, which doesnt apply since they exclusively target small numbers of civilians
>>76618376
>>76618376
I'd like to politely disagree. actually no, fuck you.
>Taxes are wrong
>still pays them
>wonders why they come back for more
You, sir. are the problem with this country.
>>76613377
I'm not a gun owner, but I do know more about them than you do. Look at our history of isolationist groups in the rural areas, shit goes down every few years and the government basically just leaves them alone. Not to mention there are a lot of ex-military out there who would cause a fit and instill disloyalty in active troops if they were hassled
>>76607240
kill yourself jew
>>76619080
Not necessarily. In most states, police unions favor special rules that gives the largest set of rights to cops and ex-cops. In New York, they want cops and ex-cops to be able to concealed carry and then deny permits to everyone else.
>>76607240
>Screencap this.
no.
>>76619205
I never said taxes were wrong you retarded retard.
>>76607240
Just because you Krautfags and Koalafags and Redcoatfags will roll over for the government does not mean we will. We shot Redcoatfags on this exact issue. Twice. We killed quite a many Krautfags during WW2. We haven't seen a need to carpet democratize Oz yet, but I think we all know how that would go down. We're not going to give up like you europussies do. We never have and we never will.
Guns forever.
>>76619428
okay, let me put it into a clearer perspective for you, since you attack what you dont understand.
>obamacare is wrong
>still pays his taxes
>m...m...maybe theyll just like repeal it
>>76619310
Not so sure about that bub. Lots of police forces are urging citizens to arm themselves because they know how thinly stretched they are and response time is measured in seconds during an active shooting. Here is an example.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/07/florida-sheriff-asks-concealed-carry-holders-take-terrorists/
>>76611582
Please take WV off of your shitty shirt, faggot.
>>76619605
Consider the difference between a sheriff, who can put out a press release that doesn't mean anything and a police union that actively lobbies lawmakers.
I wouldn't be surprised if that sheriff was running for re-election when he made that statement. I have this perspective because I've observed it in my local community and at the state level.
>>76619605
http://www.votebrevard.com/Election-Information/2016-Candidates#sheriff
Wayne Ivey (REP) Announced 8/3/2015
The 2016 Primary Election will be held on August 30th, 2016.
The 2016 General Election will be held on November 8th, 2016
LibCucks: The Thread
You all should be ashamed for yourselves. Look how weak you sound. When did it become cool to self-castrate?
>>76618527
>Not noticing the green rpg tip also
Pleb
>>76610833
all it takes is one copy of their LDAP and militias can go fuck their pilots' shit up, one address at a time; same goes for any other gov't executive org
>>76619494
This. We're the ones who disarmed Germany lmao. I think we know what happens...
>>76613377
Nothing has even happened yet, how can he react to a hypothetical event that has yet to happen?
>>76613377
prove yourself right
>>76611236
Right, because those tanks and planes really won the wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq right?
You also forget that many police and service members would be opposed to a gun grab. Finally, any revolution could easily count on the military support of the national guard from non-cucked states.
So do tell me again how insurgents within the USA would be easily crushed by a stupid federal govt?
>>76619830
I don't see what is wrong with pandering towards the populace you represent. If you get voted back in you are obviously doing something right.
>>76621282
I'm saying you shouldn't confuse the public statements of a politician (which amounts to the weight of a loud fart) with the legislative influence of a well-connected, well-funded, highly motivated lobbying sector like the police unions. Go find me some statements they've made about wanting to put more guns in the hands of citizens and I'll believe you.
>>76607240
Let's just say 1 out of every 20 gun owners reacts violently to the gun confiscation. I still think at the end of the week, the amount of dead gun grabbing cops and pressure to revolt would lead to massive unrest and outright civil war.
Attempting the same kind as disarmament cuckery ESPECIALLY in the south as was done in Europe would be a bloodbath.
Why the fuck do you think it's never been tried? Because after thinking about it for more than a minute, TPTB decided they like sedate, armed rednecks better than angry ones
>>76622302
people turn on the TV and see gun confiscation and shootings happening over it, that would be riots and civil war right there. thats if you could actually get the security forces to carry it out.
im thinking its a non-starter
>>76622656
Obama broke the law a thousand times. Nothing happened. Same as in Germany. Don't fool yourself.
>>76623122
we'll see when the day arrives, i suppose
"the government can easily take guns from you, you don't have tanks or drones".
It's like these cucks have never heard of vietnam or afghanistan. and there will be millions fighting against the government instead of a few thousands like in afghanistan or nam.
>>76607240
t. baiting antifa commie
>>76607240
I'd rather have them shoot me down and take one or two of them out than to do nothing.
>>76607240
would they mind if you gave them your gun bullet first?
>>76614157
Europe doesn't understand US culture because they have always been peasants under the rule of monarchs and dictators their entire history, they are subjects.
You wouldn't know freedom or liberty because you have never experienced them.
>>76607240
What you guys saying this fail to realize is our police and military are some of the strongest in favor of personal gun ownership. I live in Commiefornia and cops are basically evangelists for guns anytime they respond to a trespass or intruder call.
The folks favoring all these gun restrictions are the ones that don't own guns, and so lack the means to forcefully take other people's guns should they try.
>>76619494
http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Australian-American_War
