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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-donors-billion-224080

>Donald Trump’s top financiers are slashing their fundraising expectations and warning the GOP’s presumptive nominee could find himself massively out-gunned by Hillary Clinton.

>Trump himself is already starting to distance himself from the $1 billion goal, telling Bloomberg News that he doesn’t need that much to win. But his refusal to commit to raise even half of that reflects reluctance among the GOP’s benefactors to collect cash on his behalf. Many of them say he might have trouble raising even $300 million.

PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON HERE WE COME!
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If money is all it takes why isn't Jeb the nominee?
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>politico

money isn't everything. Trump doesn't need it.
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>>76573626
Doesn't Trump have more money than Jeb raised? Seems to me that the most money won.
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>>76573398
fuck off with your click bait and nigger frog
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>>76573626
Running a Primary is nothing like running a general election.
>>76573707
>He doesn't need it!

Clinton comes into the race with a 250+ electoral advantage.
She only needs 270 to win.
Tell me again how Trump doesn't need it.
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>>76573778
Why are you even on this board if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?
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>>76573778
You're confusing personal wealth with money spent on his campaign.
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>>76573398
The money spent against Trump counts as donations towards his campaign. This is what the establishment politicians can't wrap their heads around.
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>>76573778
$130 Million for Jeb
almost $60 Million for Trump
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>>76573919
>Running a Primary is nothing like running a general election
great statement, friend
now you just have to prove it
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>mfw delusional trumpkiddies think he has a shot of winning
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>>76573398
>Implying trump does not have the entire worlds media broadcasting him and his ideas 24/7
>Implying trump needs more money to campaign
>Implying Hilldog wont be in jail eating slop within a year

Dont expect a fucking martha stewart turn around either
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But meme magic is free
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>>76573398
didnt he barely spend any money at all to win the primaries?

In comparison to everyone else that is
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>you cant become president of america unless you have billions of disposable dollars

GG america
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>Trumpcucks are so salty about reality
Trump CAN NOT EVEN FUND HIS CAMPAIGN AND YOU KEKS CAN'T EVEN DEFEND IT
AHAHAHAHA
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>politico
gonna source huffpo next?
maybe salon?
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>>76574256
>Fkbfa5O.jpg
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>Hillery spends a billion dollars on ads that just rehash all the old shit that has alreday not worked
>Trump sits back and let's the media continue to give him free publicity

Ya, I'm not worried.
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>democracy

lel what a joke.
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>>76573398
>politico
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>>76573398
Because Jeb Bush did so well with all the money he had didn't he...
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>>76574426

>user generated map

ok
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>OH SHIT BERNIE MASSIVELY OUTSPENDING CLINTON AND JEB RAISED 150 MILLION! TRUMP BTFO CAN'T POSSIBLY RECOVER, BERNIE CONFIRMED 45TH PREZ
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>>76574426
>democrat
>Trump
so how many of those democrats are going to vote for shilldog? funny that you have to lump two candidates together to overtake Trump's numbers.
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>>76574857
>Le PRIMARY IS THE SAME AS THE GENERAL ELECTION MEME

Get crushed in November, kid
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>>76573398

primarymodel.com
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>>76574985
>LE MONEY MEANS SHIT NOWDAYS MEME

Ebic
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>>76574895
kek
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>/pol/ spends 24 hours cheering Bernie's defeat
>Didn't realize that now Republican AND Democratic jews will start throwing money at Shillary
>Trump will be buried in wall to wall anti-Trump ads for months
You asked for this, you fucking idiots
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>>76574426
>not having Idaho as permanently red

did you just arbitrarily decide states to hand out?
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>>76575467
Don't give mememaps any (You)s
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>>76575429
And yet today I saw a pro trump ad on Tv for the very first time.
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>>76574426

Honestly, if Trump wanted to he could get his supporters to start donating and pull in more than even Sanders (Because Trump supporters have jobs).
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>>76575528
I apologize for such sacrilege
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>>76575591
Since they have jobs, they realize money don't come easy. They're still less likely to donate
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>>76573626
>>76573707
>>76574254
>>76574289
>>76574332
>>76574617
>>76574762
>>76574857
>All this denial
>"You don't need money to win a presidential campaign"
These people are delusional
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>>76573398
>76573398
>>76573398
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If that demented harpy wins I'm going to the land of banter and Vegemite.
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>>76575591
This. He hasn't asked for anything yet besides hat sales.
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>>76573398
This article will cause many Bernie people to feel more comfortable backing him, since clearly the corrupt elite wont back Trump.
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>>76575720
Trump doesn't need the full 1 billion to run a full fledged campaign and he doesn't waste money on overpriced consultant fees.
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>>76573398
It's fucking obvious that Trump is not likely to win. All decent empirical information points in that direction. The dilemma for conservatives is working out how to deal with his candidacy. The current consensus is to quietly get behind it while also making an escape plan when things get bad. And especially not to let his provocative, obnoxious, ill-thought policy statements affect state-level races. And of course the big funders like the Kochs are staying away. Trump doesn't have enough to do the funding himself. The result will be a completely hilarious shitshow. Watch this space.
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Democunts aren't expecting the army of redneck voters that has not been seen since the Confederacy
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>>76573398
very surprised not to see a leaf on this post.
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>>76573398
>politico

might as well just post some ramblings from tumblr
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>>76575720
>>76573398
All of the info is available on the internet these days.

The Trump/Hillary debates will be on everybody's TV.

Why does he need to spend a billion dollars on ad campaigns? It will make him seem frugal and confident, while Shillary will seem like a typical pandering slutitician.

The only problem I see is too many normies believing Hillary commercial at face value.
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>>76575693
I'm single and pull 60k a year, if the emperor asks for support I could easily put in at least $1,000 through the election. But I won't do it until he explicitly makes a call to arms. I think this applies for very many Trump supporters.
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>>76573398
>OP 10 months ago

LOL JEB BUSH BTFO TRUMP IN FUNDRAISING. GIVE UP NOW TRUMPFAGS. YEB HAS WAY MORE $$$!
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Correct the record is 100% aware of us and they focus heavily on us.

They do everything they can to to undermine the movement, /pol/ has started to crack under the pressure already.

sage
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>Politico
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>>76573398
Ya never know, OP. Stranger things have happened.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html
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>>76573398
Actually I think this is great. I was worried about Trump selling out too much in the GE, but it's clear to me that he's saying "fuck you" to a lot of potential donors.
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>>76575914
>Not even meeting 1/3 of your goal amount
>Running the same bare bones, disorganized, boarderline mutinous staff that he had in the primaries
>Up against the combined weight of Republican est, Democrats, and SJWs
>Not to mention billionaires all trying to be the first to plug Shillary's money hole
Nah, he's bretty fucked
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>>76574182
>0.02 dollars have been deposited in your account
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>Clinton marks
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>>76576064
Thanks for this.
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>>76573398
i STILL dont understand how americans have people voting for hillary of ALL PEOPLE she tried it against obama and lost simply because he was black are people voting simply because shes a woman ? shes pretty much americas putin never ever to far from the seat of power and now shes almost got it.
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Trumpets on damage control
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>>76576230
>>76576230
>thinking Trump has to burn money for attention
>thinking the worst isn't behind him w most GOP cucks falling in line
>thinking Bernie will go away
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>>76575988

Amen.
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>>76576565
Yes, our average plebs, niggers, spics, and women are incredibly stupid. The US would be Brazil without the white males.
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>>76576230
>WHY WONT YOU RUN THE FAILED CAMPAIGN MODEL I LAID OUT FOR YOU GOY?!?!?!
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>>76574985
>Punditry has been proven to 100% accurate this election year
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>>76576484
Spread it far and wide.
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Also, rather than donate, I rather just buy a full Trump attire

http://shop.donaldjtrump.com/
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Drumpf is going down hahahahaahahahaa

Turns out every single news outlet was right and Drumpf was wrong, he has fuck all money.
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>>76576565
It's no lie, most Americans are apolitical dumbfucks. Now that meme qualities like being black, being a woman, 'breaking boundaries' etc. works, both parties are trying to abuse it
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>Trumps campaign staff 70 odd people
>crooked Hillary over 400 campaign staff

There's one thing that hill dog does not have, thousands of autists on the largest free speech political forum on the internet spewing out A grade propaganda and memes from all over the globe.

Oh and

>meme magic
>kek
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>>76576764
Look, the media has caught on to Trump's strat. They're largely ignoring him except to berate him on shit like the judge, which does him no favors.

And I think you're overestimating his handle on the GOP. Sure, they've fallen in line on paper, but if you pay attention, it's pretty apparent that they're looking for an exit strategy. Many people have withdrawn their support and many more are hesitant to say they support him.

I'm not really happy about this, my candidate is out so I couldn't care less. I'm just saying that this is what it looks like to me
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>>76576806
Come on, he has ONE (1) staffer taking all media requests. That shit won't fly during a national campaign. He needs to reorganize.
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>>76577111
Checked

The media caught on months and months ago. And haven't done shit. Now that the election is over they're back to reporting normal shit instead of shrill hysterics.
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>>76577230
Why?
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>>76573398
who needs money when you have meme magick
its time for a white heterosexual male president again i means its 2016 come on guys
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>>76575988
>>76576768
You guys seem to know little about American history. The Confederacy were the states ran by the Democrats, who, at the time, were what we would call "globalists." Their agenda was to continue the slave trade so we had workers to settle the western USA. The Republicans (again, the party that Trump aligns with) did not agree with the slave trade, as they did not want Africans flooding our country. We wanted Americans and Europeans to settle the western USA, not Africans.

Look into the policies of the abolitionists. It was end slavery, remove dindus. Now the platform is build wall, deport illegals.
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>>76577326
I guess. The way I look at it, the only way Trump could win is to get on a debate stage and just absolutely tear into her. Like, I mean really let her have it. Throw everything at her. Ideally, she'll lose her temper
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>>76576903
>saying Drumpf

>glorifying Jew banking and not creating physical capital
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>>76576995
speaking of campaign staff:
>The Sanders campaign began taking steps late last month to downsize its operation. He reduced his payroll from about 1,000 to fewer than 400 employees. Sanders has pledged to continue in the race until the final primary, June 14 in Washington, D.C.

>1,000 employees LEL
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>>76576842
Already gave $250 to the God Emperor.

My uncle owns a construction business, and I'm gonna get him to get a contribution form all his employees. Also, gonna spread it on Normiebook and Twatter.
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Serious question here: Is there any way that Trump can be ousted in the convention? I don't think he panned out as big enough.
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>>76577555
Checked

I wouldn't mind seeing her die on stage.
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>>76577717
Godspeed anon.
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>>76577847
Yes. But it would be extremely painful.
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>>76577528
I'm not really sure I would call the confederacy "globalists." But they did want cheap labour so it's similar.
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>>76577989

We're all big conservatives.
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>>76578051
They were engaged in proto-globalism.
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>>76577847
>Is there any way that Trump can be ousted in the convention?
That would result in Trump crashing the Republican Party with No survivors
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Oy vey goyim spend money its the only way to become president
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>>76573398
w h o
c a r e s

JEB II, here we come
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>>76573398
trump spent almost nothing on his campaign vs sanders and hillarys spending thus far. if this trend continues trump will spend 1/10 what hillary spends and get the same effect
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>>76578051
Oh, they were definitely the globalists of the era. We've beat them before, and we'll beat them again. >Antifas have always been on the wrong side of American history.
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Jeb Bush paid $100 million to get like 2% in the polls.

Money helps but it isn't the most important thing.
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>politico
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>>76578403

Hillary is already beating Drumpf AND she will have a bucketload of cash

Apples and walnuts, my friend.
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>>76573398
How much money Hillary ends up burning is the cherry on top.
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>>76578403
I remember somebody posting a vote to $ chart at one point and it was fucking retarded how much the guac merchant spent for each vote.

You can literally give a guy a fortune but if he is a jeb tier fuckup it will get them nowhere
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>>76578292

>Trump drones on about how he'll attack Hillary just as hard as he did his opponents
>fucks up like a retard and cares more about his business than the highest duty in the land
>actually manages to be worse than Shillary

I have to really hand it to him. He's falling into the narrative of he's friends with Shillary and is working with her.

It's great what he does though and it's tremendous. It's stupendous. He does these things and then others just don't agree and I'm like "why, why do these people do these things?" and, you know it's just so BAD
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>>76578769

You are trying to hard, buddy.
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>>76578769
The fuck are you even talking about? Is the shillbot broken? Does somebody need to dispel this notion?
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Hillary = RICH
Trump = POOR

Its over Trumpkins.
Hillary will spend 10 billion on advertising and Trump will rent out some little truck.
He's got no chanceeee.
Being anti-establishment is only nice if you can actually win without it. Seems Trump can't.

May aswell get on the winning side now.
#HillMissle2016
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>>76578919

Counterargument?
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>>76573398
He's already dominated all other GOP candidates with the least amount of money. How the fuck do you think him not raising enough money is going to keep him from winning? My brain is full of fuck.
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>>76578997

your a clueless faggot

Trump has paid less per vote than any candidate in history and achieved the highest number of votes than any candidate in history. Crooked Hillary is straight fucked.
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>>76577847

Theoretically the RNC could make a rule that would allow bound/pledged delegates to vote for whoever they want, in essence nulling the entire primary. It would kill the party though.
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>>76578995
>May aswell get on the winning side now.
this is basically half the fucking problem with out country. people vote based on who they think is going to win. how fucking retarded do you have to be to do this?
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>>76579150
>highest number of votes than any candidate in history.
thats only because there were more voters this year. gop numbers were up across the board.
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>>76579382

Yeah, because of Trump you dickless nigger.
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>>76579250
As a ups driver I deal with the general public on a daily basis. The majority of people are absolutely retarded. I literally had a guy have me wait to open his package (a bag, not a box) to make sure his shirt wasn't "broken".
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>>76579188
>It would kill the party though.
what exactly do you think a trump presidency would do?
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>>76579150

>ignore the former post-tree
>immediate insult
>back to 'muh Trump paid less

I'd expect nothing less. Dear fucking hell the horseshit writes itself. Is this what you people subsist on?

Do you, dare I go there, do it for free? Because you sure as hell have the aptitude for it.
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>>76579434
>everyone besides trump got more votes because of trump
nigger, wut?
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>>76575914
>>76575720
>>76576049
>>76576230
>>76579150
Trump is all MSM is talking about this week, mainly the judge and now his upcoming speech

Those faggots will continue to whine about all the attention he's getting, yet they won't appear for any interviews
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>>76579437
Top kek

Should have just walked off. What the fuck can he do?
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>>76573919
b8
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>>76579488

>no argument

i thought shills were better at this? aren't you a professional?
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>>76579464
To the party? Same as Reagan did. Bring a lot of people in for his term, the nope the fuck out when the GOP rolls out the next cuckservative after him.
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>>76579382
>>76579541
>thats only because there were more voters this year.

Who do you think brought out all those voters?
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>>76579464
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>>76579667
>Who do you think brought out all those voters?
certainly not trump. if he was bringing them out they would have voted for him.
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>>76573919
>250+ advantage
Where the fuck are you getting these numbers other than your ass you cock sucking shill
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>>76578995
Better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
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>>76579602

>continue to ignore previous arguments
>continue to argue in general

Trump General, folks. Trump General.
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>>76573398
>>Trump himself is already starting to distance himself from the $1 billion goal, telling Bloomberg News that he doesn’t need that much to win.
THE FUCKING MADMAN.

AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND UNDER BUDGET
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>>76579749
He thinks the hillbot already won 250 delegates

Apparently there was a vote already in shillville
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>>76579743
>people didn't vote for Trump
wew
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>>76579743
If they weren't voting for him how did he win?

Jesus christ the stupid is terminal.
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>>76579938
actually more people voted against trump then for him.
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>>76579743
>certainly not trump. if he was bringing them out they would have voted for him.

Well he won the nomination and got 13+ million votes some how, almost half the Republican voters

Someone is doing all the voting
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Trump will win the same way Reagan won. He's effectively conveyed the message to white people "vote for me and I'll take care of you". Same tactic Reagan used. It's a vote for survival and he'll win in a landslide
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>>76580030
having the most votes is not the same as having the majority. faggot.
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>>76579810
>thinks he's in /trumpgen/

Nigger you gonna get fired.
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trump has 300 million of his own money he can spend you dumbass
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>>76580050
He ran against 17 candidates.
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>>76580050
Out of 17 candidates, getting 13 million out of 28 million is pretty fucking swell

The closest was Cruz with almost 8 million
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>>76580050
Remember the 1500.
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>>76580114

You're either retarded, well wait, you're retarded.
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>>76580184
>>76580179
what does any of that have to do with my original point? oh right nothing.
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>>76580232
And you're a nigger so, I'm still winning.
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>>76580111
He did have the majority. You cant just add all of the votes for different candidates as if they were one opposing candidate.
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>>76574426
How long can you go to where you insult the other candidate cause he's not a kike-funded lie?
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>>76580316
>He did have the majority.
nigger, you're retarded. the word majority has an actual definition.
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>>76580264
20 million voted against his next closest competitor. Your argument works against all of them. In other words, not an argument.
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>>76580264
Come on, can't you shills do better than this? Obviously a massive field of candidates will split the vote. It doesn't change the fact that a shitload of people voted for Trump; more than any other candidate in GOP history.
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>>76580308

Well, you gave me as much rebuttal as I'll give you.

You're still welcome to something more than that. When you give a better rebuttal.

I swear Captchas give me more thought.
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>>76580462
it also doesnt change the fact that more people voted against trump then any other candidate in gop history.
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>>76575753
Ayyyyyyyyyyylmao, Trump has got this in the bag.
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>>76580530

>being this much of a nigger

holy shit go back to africa you porch monkey
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>>76580595
>it also doesnt change the fact that more people voted against trump then any other candidate in gop history

You could use the same logic for the losers
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>>76573398
>Politico
>relevant
Nice meme.
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>>76580688
>You could use the same logic for the losers
how would that go against my point? oh right it just reinforces it. the fact that trump got more votes than normal isnt really important because everyone got more votes than normal. there were just more voters for everyone.
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>>76580647

>be a trump supporter
>openly go about in the the thread
>dumb shill labels me as a nigger many times in this thread
>Trump General ignores and fucks over anyone saying anything against him

Goddamn, you guys are fucking consistent.
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>>76580850
>highly competitive field
>Trump impressively comes out on top
>lol who cares
Thank you for correcting the record.
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>>76580850
What is your point? That there were other people in the race?

I fail to see how what you are trying to tell is relevant.
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>>76580969
>>highly competitive field
>shittiest group of candidates ever
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>>76580951

>being this mad

bro, you are getting paid to shill. what do you get, 10 cents a post? you should feel proud of yourself.
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>>76581085
uh my point was that the fact that trump got more votes than ever isnt really indicative of anything other than the fact that gop turnout overall is up this year.
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>>76579561
He could file a complaint through our 1800 number and my supervisor would pull me into the office and tsk tsk me then probably laugh about it.
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>>76579640
>reagan wasnt a cuckservative
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I do not think Trump supporters understand exactly what they have done.

Trump never stood a chance of winning the general election. Attack ads against him have not been run yet. But when you take all of the things he said and play them back to the electorate, he is going to get fucked. Talking about him winning is a child's conversation.

The actual conversation is not the presidency, which all of the adults know will go to Hilary Clinton, but the legislative branch. The House and the Senate.

Because of Trump's name at the top of the ticket more votes will go to Hilary. And less of the GOP electorate are likely to show up.

The question is how many seats the GOP is going to lose and what they are going to do after this. Trump's rise shows that the party has no real unity. Every candidate that the GOP thought would perform (Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz)-- all of them faltered in front of the public and they were not the rallying figures that the party thought they were back in 2012.

So, the odds are, that because of Trump's candidacy, the exact opposite of what he is campaigning for will be achieved. Democrats will control the Executive and Legislative branch. At least 4 Supreme Court Justices will be appointed by Hilary and a democratic senate can approve very liberal ones.
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>>76576903
Here's the real quote you stupid fuck

>"Had the celebrity businessman and Republican presidential candidate invested his eventual share of his father’s real-estate company into a mutual fund of S&P 500 stocks in 1974, it would be worth nearly $3 billion today, thanks to the market’s performance over the past four decades. If he’d invested the $200 million that Forbes magazine determined he was worth in 1982 into that index fund, it would have grown to more than $8 billion today."

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
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>>76581722
>Attack ads have not run yet

You realize there were a shitton during the primaries right? They poured money into those things in a desperate attempt to stop Trump.
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>>76580850
McCain also had a plurality in 08.
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>>76576903
Doesn't this play in his favor? He'd rather spend money creating jobs than just spend his time sitting on a pile of money.
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>>76582417
The other part is, you can't eat with all your money in an index fund. It's a ridiculous comparison.
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>>76581092
From what perspective?
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>>76581766
So if he put all his eggs into one basket and ate gruel and lived in a studio apartment for a couple decades he could be a billionaire too? But he's a billionaire now while living in the lap of luxury for decades and employing thousands of people therefore sharing his prosperity.
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>>76582684
>>76582684
>From what perspective
reality.
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>>76581092
>>76581247
>shittiest group of candidates
>highest turnout ever
wat?
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>>76573626
/thread
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>>76582799
>So if he put all his eggs into one basket
>index funds
nigger, wut?
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>>76582802
Shitty candidates would not cause a record turnout.
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>>76573398

Sheldon Adelson (mega Israel booster) promised a 100 million donation to Trump, then promised to boost it to 200 million if Trump chose Newt Gingrich as VP. Trump didn't say yes (Gingrich is establishment globalist) so now Gingrich is tearing down Trump about the "La Rasa Judge". Ryan and McConnell are attacking Trump too. The long knives are out....
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>"Elections" in this country are literally auctions

And you called me a cuck for voting Sanders.
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>>76580084
The difference is that the US was 80% white and now it's 60% white. You cannot win with the redneck vote.
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>>76582417
except that "net worth" does not mean just a pile of money; it means an accumulation of his pile of money as well as estimates of the value of everything he owns added together, businesses and properties alike.
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>>76582906
uh, we've had record turnout in nearly every election for the past how many decades? it's almost as if the number of voters goes up with the population.
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>>76583020
cuck
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>>76582802
No for real. I want to know from what perspective all those successful senators and governors representing every facet of the Party amounts to the worst Candidate field ever.
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>>76583066
No. No we haven't. We haven't had this many voters in 16 years.
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>>76583066
No
The last time this happened was for Bush in 2000.

Romney and McCain could only dream of numbers like this. This is because they were objectively worse candidates than Trump.
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>>76583317
uh 2008 and 2012 primaries had more voters then 2000 did. lrn 2 facts.
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>>76576059
I make more than u poor ass show proof u donate 1000 to tramp and i will double that to hillary, i cant wait to see pol commint suicide cause this fool is going to lose
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>>76583433
2012 had less than 2000
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Wow... Really makes you think. I'm a #cruzmissle now
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>>76583196
>We haven't had this many voters in 16 years.
we've never had this many voters. thats what record turnout means, moron. but we also had record turnout for mccain, and bush, and dole, and other bush, reagan, and ford. so it doesnt really mean shit.
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>>76581766
So if he has a net worth of 2.9 billion, ie "the money left over", how much has he spent? On wages, infrastructure? If he's worth 2.9 billion in assetts its pretty likely he as at least "created" 8 billion in wealth.

Considering the narrative in our society about "the rich taking and not giving back" the fact that he has less than he could have had for himself actually indicates hes a good *person*..

This level of thinking is stupid. They don't realise it, but they are saying that "he's stupid for not being selfish and hoarding more for himself and thats a bad business decision".

And more to that point- are they saying that a good business man, and therefore someone who is desirable as president, is someone who works out how to hoard wealth and not give anything back? Seriously?
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>>76578539

I'm not going to pretend it was ever "fair & balanced" but that site has gone full fucking lunatic lately.

> Trump fucked
> Fucking Trump
> Trump fucks the fucks
> Fucking Trump fucks up fucking up

Meanwhile

> Hillary would like FBI probe to end
> Hillary's history-making night
> Hillary regrets foundation ethical lapse
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>>76583585
you were saying?
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