>Nato countries had begun largest war game in eastern Europe since the Cold War: Anaconda-2016
>Ten-day military exercise will involve 31,000 soldiers from 24 countries, 100 aircraft, 12 vessels and 3,000 vehicles
>The exercise, which US and Polish officials formally launched near Warsaw, is billed as a test of cooperation between allied commands and troops in responding to military, chemical and cyber threats
>Multinational operations publicised so far include an airdrop involving 1,130 parachutists over the northern Polish city of Toruń on Tuesday – including 500 US troops and 230 British ones – engineers building a bridge to carry 300 vehicles over the Vistula river and a night-time “assault” involving 35 helicopters.
>Marcin Zaborowski, a Polish defence analyst at the Centre for European Policy Analysis in Warsaw, said: “In Poland we see the exercise as a reassurance measure from the US and Nato. The defence needs of central and eastern Europe are real. The scope and numbers of Anaconda are no match for the Russian exercises that go on all the time just across the border.”
>"The physical exercise tends to make no contribution to creating an environment of believe in and security", Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday in Moscow. "There is a lack of belief in in the connection with the West", he added.
>Anaconda-2016 is a prelude to Nato’s summit in Warsaw on 8-9 July, which is expected to agree to position significant numbers of troops and equipment in Poland and the Baltic states
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/06/nato-launches-largest-war-game-in-eastern-europe-since-cold-war-anaconda-2016
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/07/anaconda-kicks-off-poland-major-army-involvement/85542986/
http://news.newsdirectory2.com/russia-criticized-main-maneuvers-anaconda-in-poland/
>Poland strong
Also, reminder PiS is GOAT.
>>76545183
Really good for Poland, but I see no need for the US to do this other than to poke a sleeping bear.
>>76545950
Give us more stealth tanks, Poland. I need video of these things doing something, anything.
>>76546083
>poke a sleeping bear
This meme needs to end.
Russia only understand the force argument, it's always been like that, and they're not "sleeping" since 2008. Look at Georgia and Ukraine.
>>76546083
NATO brah
need to learn to coordinate militaries
>>76546459
>Luxembourgian Putinbot on guard 24/7
>>76546195
>Stealth tanks
Sorry, but it's a meme, lad. They are never going to happen.
We will invest in more Leos instead.
>Russia threatens countries about the missile shield
>literally tries strong arming them
>NATO arms up in response to threat
>Russia ''concerned''
Subhuman russians and their paper tiger nation.
>>76545183
Is nato fucking suicidal? The ivans have the second best nuclear defense program and the most nukes....Not to mention the Chinks will back Russia in a nuclear war against nato.....
>>76546900
>The ivans have the second best nuclear defense program
[citation needed]
If anything, Russians would be the suicidal ones if they seriously considered use of nucler weapons in case of conflict.
>>76546792
>Sorry, but it's a meme, lad. They are never going to happen.
Stop spreading false info.
>>76546978
this coming from the guy that keeps making the "US and Russia alliance" threads as if we don't fucking hate each other
Nice peacce project you're having there EU and NATO. Like, totally defesive and like, not directed against Russia.
>>76546978
It's not Poland, it's you EU faggots. Your stupid egalitarian globalist jewish tailored dream is threatening the whole world with war. The chinks and russkies wont go ahead with letting in niggers and arabs, and they'll nuke us all into oblivion if we keep pushing them.
>>76545183
that pic is cool af
>>76547183
>Like, totally defesive
It is.
>>76546921
>>76546978
>>76547086
hello there permuted Russia, I doubt we make decisions, also war would ruin us
>>76547096
Russia has 7500 nukes, without the US NATO only has 700. Russia has the lowest population density I think of any country, actually fucking up their country would take over 100,000 nukes. To destroy western Europe you need like a few dozen, as your density is insane.
Even with the burgers you only have 300 nukes more than the ivans, and western europe's nuclear defense program is shit, only the burgers would withstand the brunt of the attack.
You retards underestimate your enemies all the time, and Putin is a political mastermind. I don't even fucking like Russians, I find them subhuman tier, but you should admit that Russia could fucking kill you all.
>>76547086
>You provoke all the time
Yeah m8, and these aircraft violating Baltic airspace entire time are aliens, and totally not Russians, eh?
Nobody "drags" you into war, you are the butthurt ones because you can't get over the simple fact that USSR days are gone and you are not a superpower anymore.
Besides, we need to strengthen our position and re-establish the Commonwealth, in order to oppose neo marxism of EU and Russian imperialism.
>>76546792
>it's a meme
No pls
I want to believe
>>76547183
Adolf, Russia is shit. It is no match for nato. Russia has gdp like Canada and big army.
Stop with this meme that nato is against Russia, Russians dont matter for NATO. NATO is here against Chinks.
>>76547290
Unfortunately this. If you look at the scenarios planned for Central/Eastern Europe during the cold war, they were basically nuked into oblivion, since they were considered as a meat shield
Same thing would happen today.
Let's hope that this threat never materializes
>>76547290
Nato is fucking retarded then, if they nuke Russia China goes to war, and with exhausted nuke supply China will kill every single person in nato and grab your resources.
If you do the calculations it would take about 400,000 nukes to destroy human civilization. We don't have nearly enough, not even enough to put a dent in our progress much. Maybe set ourselves back 100 years or so.
>>76545183
>Anaconda-2016
MY ANACONDA DON'T
>all shitposts by Ivan from Luxemburg deleted
amen
>>76547794
WANT NONE UNLESS
>>76547548
This retarded mindset is literally the reason the west is going to lose to Putin. You underestimate the Russkies. You seem to forget they forged one of the most powerful empires for almost 100 years.
Thinking they're not a threat because of a great depression is like underestimating the Germans in 1920 or the Americans because their economies were shit. The Russkies are big players, and their nukes keep them at the table.
Also the russians have the most powerful nukes on the planet, they can cover a lot more damage than NATO. Nato never developed tsar bomba tier bombs.
>>76547466
I doubt they want nuclear mayhem.
But you never know.
Do you think Polan wants atomic inferno on its land? Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F000UK_kUq4
>>76545183
Russian military > NATO.
>>76547988
Nato is a meme man. The Russians are currently the most powerful in terms of destructive power, and the chinks have the most military muscle and military obedience.
The US has cool gadgets, but a retarded populace of hippies that is a huge detriment to war efforts, and a pussified populace that would make for horrible conscripted soldiers.
>>76545950
As much as I dislike PiS for being a bunch of socialists, their foreign policy is great so far. They don't bend over to neither EU nor Putin, unlike most of "eurosceptics".
>Lets annoy a nuclear nuclear-weapon state, what could go wrong?
I hate OTAN so god damn mutch
>>76547898
YOU GOT GUNS HUN
>>76547960
>history is now
We were empire in XVI century, guess what times change. Russia is irrelevant. It is only relevant for shithole like Poland.
Pakistan has nukes too, but noone even they are retarded enough to use those.
>>76548263
>Russians are currently the most powerful
are russians posting under candadian flags now?
go delete yourself like the luxembourg guy
>>76545183
NATO is a paper tiger, slow into the Balkan war, absent from Ukraine, and will be absent in the coming conflict when Putin next extends his forces.
All this talk of an EU army is cancer to NATO too, you will have electorates of NATO countries wanting to keep out of NATO conflict "because we have da EU armys naow".
Albania is next conflict.
Blitzkrieg 2.0 when?
>>76548471
Nukes are a meme, you wont end the world if you use them, you'll just destroy a lot of shit. I'm not a russian nor do I like them very much. That being said, as far as power analysis goes, ignoring their influence is retarded.
>>76546257
They honestly haven't done anything to provoke the US.
>muh Georgia and Ukraine
Of course the Russians would invade countries with Non-existent militaries. The Russians knew from the conception of their invasion plan that they could win.
Putin isn't stupid and won't attack countries with heavy US Economic and Military influence, like Poland.
>>76547183
>>76548143
>>76548299
>Germans being massive cucks
More news at 11.
>>76548583
Russians have the most nukes and they're allied with the chinks and Japan. They're not the "most" powerful at face value, but combine their: patriotism in military, ruthlessness, in-accountability, and raw military power, the ivans are a pretty big threat.
I mean technically the US has the most military power, but your entire country is overrun by liberal faggots who pulled you out of a war with vietnam, and would almost certainly act treasonous during a US/Russia war.
>>76548628
>Violating NATO airspace on daily basis
>They honestly haven't done anything to provoke the US
>Putin isn't stupid and won't attack countries with heavy US Economic and Military influence
Military is all about excercises and being ready for the worst. If everyone just assumed that no war is going to ever happen, we would just abolish the armies.
>>76548591
>british education
You didnt name one country in nato, why would nato help non member? Balkans are in nato since what 2004?
I just want poland to be 51 state.
>>76548143
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSqg5KEj73c
>>76548263
I have a big respect for Russians. I know their zerg rush. I know they would all die for their motherland.
But is anyone attacking them? The end of Cold War was fatal for them and for us. We could not keep up in a new situation. Russia has also some influence here maybe even a big influence.
Polan alone is no threat for Russia and never be. We are small and weak.
>>76548875
>they're allied with the chinks and Japan
Why did all my posts get deleted?
>>76547509
This and Poland needs to play both sides and stay neutral for long as possible.
>>76547512
Nigga >>76547163
>>76547548
>Russians dont matter for NATO.
Well it actually does, U.S. wants it to be on its side.
>NATO is here against Chinks.
For this.
>>76545183
Could be the start of bigger things lads?
>>76549056
CIA is onto you, run Ivan!
>>76549004
The Russkies see the growing jewish controlled power as a threat. EU, and all the liberal faggot nations backing them are their enemies. The chinks are in the same boat as the ivans, and Japan is kind of forced to back the russians because they're in such close proximity.
Russia wont invade Poland, if anything they're going to try and subvert you into joining them against the EU.
A Brexit would allow for an opportunity to slice at the EU and NATO's weakness. The ivans want power, and I suspected the sanctions on them were too harsh. Forcing a nation to bend like that isn't wise, remember what happened to Germany.
The Russians are also not stupid, at the height of the soviet union in the late 70's early 80's they were as technologically advanced, if not more than the US.
It's a real problem, because the bankster kikes that rule the west want the east at all costs, but I'm pretty sure the russkies will nuke us all if they don't back off soon.
>>76548937
The US also invades Russian airspace, but you'll only hear it in Russian media.
In the Cold War, both Russian pilots and US pilots invaded airspace to make the other's Air Force piss themselves.
>>76547466
>Russia has the lowest population density
It doesn't matter really, because most of it is grouped in a few largest cities.
Just nuke Moscow and Petersburg, and 1/6 of them is gone already.
>western europe's nuclear defense program is shit
You forget the Russians have large portion of their missles gathered in Kaliningrad, and current Polish long-range missles have way mor modern systems and longer range. They would take them out hours before Russians would be able to launch them.
>Putin is a political mastermind
He isn't really, he just have a good PR and a strong backing of most of mafias running the country behind the scenes. The internal situation in Russia after his recent chimpouts is catastrophic, Rouble is constantly dropping. I wouldn't really call him a "mastermind".
>>76549429
If you think there are no Jews in Russia you are very wrong.
Also, I have never said Russians are stupid. I know them and I have a deep respect for their culture and science. I wish they rise again but not as something to be feared but admired.
Maybe I am just a dreamer.
>>76549527
>The US also invades Russian airspace
Again, war for us and Russia would be devastating and I guess they know it. Also then Murrica wins third time and gets even more stronger.
>>76545183
cuck
>>76548619
>implying nukes exist
>>76549429
>The Russkies see the growing jewish controlled power as a threat
Stop reading Stormfront, m8. Russia is controlled by the Jews in the same extend as the West.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4587086,00.html
Also, see >>76166341
>Russia wont invade Poland, if anything they're going to try and subvert you into joining them against the EU
Which is never going to happen, because we didn't broke out from their rule 20 years ago just to suck their cock again. See >>76547509
>A Brexit would allow for an opportunity to slice at the EU and NATO's weakness
EU and NATO have nothing in common. NATO is a military alliance.
>Forcing a nation to bend like that isn't wise, remember what happened to Germany
What is Russia going to do, realistically? They are a paper tiger, desperately struggling to keep rests of their influence in a few remaining pro-Russian former USSR satelite states. They are also suffering from a serious demographic problem - they have one of lowest birth rates in Europe.
>>76550513
>Putinbot
Firing squad soon, traitor.
>>76550127
> Navy Seals spoted while infiltrating a building via the toilet
> No survivors or splash marks found
>>76550959
EU and NATO are the same thing.
>>76551102
call the ABW, i don't give a fuck, cuck
>>76551207
>Canadian education
NATO is a military alliance.
EU is a economically-politically-USSR-like creation.
>>76550370
Putin is not a madman, he's not going to attack anyone stronger than small shitholes like Georgia and poor ones like Ukraine.
We need to keep pushing and sanctioning them until they break, like Raegan did in 80s.
>>76551207
*facepalm*
>>76547163
But Borsuk is not a tank, and it has literally nothing in common with PL-01.
PL-01 was just a meme and a paper model without a real vision from the very beginning.
>>76551207
They are both shit, but thats where the similarities end
>>76552208
How is NATO shit exactly?
>>76551952
probably, but I would not say *we*
>>76547960
Tsar bomba is a meme. There is a reason why all advanced nuke countries went to the mirv platform.
>>76552301
Its an american tool so they can occupy europe without even having to fight.
They provoke russia and then came up with more troops to "protect" us from ebil russians
>>76552752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naA0V6pEv5I
well, they with Brits liberated most of the Europe and defeated you. Also, what is Rammstein? There must be a reason, huh?
>>76552752
>occupy europe
Wew lad, Americans and their terrible "occupation". Yesterday two American soldiers encountered me and forced me to eat three burgers at nearby McDonalds. What a Shoah.
>They provoke russia
"Russian" territory consisted only of Moscow and nearby territories in XIVth century. Now they are the biggest country in the world.
Let that sink in for the moment, if you ever wondered again who is the aggressor and expansionist here.
>>76552122
>Borsuk not a tank
>PL-01
Maybe because its not a tank you moron.
>>76553194
That may suprise you, but we also had russians in our countries some years ago.
Most of them was cool guys, but they was here to occupy us, just like the americans are doing it now.
America will always be the enemy of europe and they will always try to take our sovereignty.
>>76553459
Read >>76546792 and >>76546195 again
Was the talk about stealth tanks, or stealth BMPs?
>>76553584
In case it wasn't obvious; this man is a mudslime who is worried that America, and by extension American ideals, will interfere with the establishment of a European caliphate.
>>76545183
Well, it's not like I really concerned about it.
It's not like Russia don't know how tough is Poland.You should kill hundreds of thousands to put them in place.
But as you may notice, not everyone in NATO excited about this maneuvers.
Your national pride help you alot in tough times, like in 1918. But in the same time it really limit your political flexibility.
You can't act friendly towards Russia. Even Hungary could pretend what they want to be our friends.
In a wrong time this could backfire, just like before.
>>76553584
>Most of them was cool guys
Stockholm syndrome?
>America will always be the enemy of europe
There is one major difference: Russians literally invaded every country that tried to broke out from Russian rule ('56, '68, Ukraine recently) - USA isn't going to invade anyone for leaving NATO.
Also, all NATO members joined the pact willingly, unlike in case of Warsaw Pact, which was literally enforced by Russian troops.
>>76554338
we are not your enemy, Siergiej
I think there is a similar problem with you like with Germans. Although you are closer to us.
>>76554338
>just like before
What do you mean?
>>76551207
M8, EU is doing manny fucked up things, but its not so shit that it should be compared with the jewish world army
>>76555007
I mean friends and allies sometimes betray you.
>>76555935
The parallel is really out of place.
Britain and France were never in a strong military alliance with us, or had a detailed plan of help. Their promises were empty from the very beginning.
>31,000 soldiers from 24 countries, 100 aircraft, 12 vessels and 3,000 vehicles
obviously this force is an existential threat the Russian Federation capable of destroying their military and taking Moscow within 6 weeks
>>76551207
Canada, everybody
>>76556257
Do you even understand the concept of "military exercise"?
>>76556257
>American education
>>76556257
We sure showed them
>>76553984
It's NOT A FUCKING TANK idiot.
>>76556990
That's what I'm talking about from the very beginning, dumbass.
>>76555935
If they betray then....
Also look, nuclear ww3 between Odra and Bug means literally the end of Poland. It would be anymore. Tempting, isn't it? We would die like native Americans.
But then, they would attack you. You do not want Moscow nuked, do you?
Also look, no offence, why people ally with America? They have their own business but keep some standards at least with European countries and those non-violent ones. Also they are dominating culturally, English is easy and there are millions of books in English on almost all subjects. American culture is pervasive and addictive. They also help in development of poor and oppressed countries.
Can't you use some of that ideas? Like cultural hegemony, stability, generosity, efficient economy, big projects, values and ideas.
Wasn't the USSR like that in the days of its glory?
I know you can do it if you want your multipolar world. Respect, not fear.
>>76557393
>Like cultural hegemony, stability, generosity, efficient economy, big projects, values and ideas.
You need to be rich for that in the first place, Russian GDP per capita is lower than the one of Poland.
>Wasn't the USSR like that in the days of its glory?
No, it wasn't, really.
I think that if Russia ever wants to be a prosperous country and not just an imperialistic poor shithole run by mafias, they need to get rid of these mafias in the first place. Introduce the REAL free market and capitalism. Lower the taxes, privatize the national companies. Support isolationism and living in good conditions with the neighbours, trade with them, instead of trying to enslave them culturally and economically. Maybe also splitting up into a few smaller states would help.
>>76556555
>repeating digits checked
the joke is that Russian media and Russiaboos act like every NATO excercise is an unprecedented provocation and major threat to Russian security and that WWIII is happening tomorrow
the massive fake manufactured butthurt a couple weeks ago when it was announced a multinational force of 3,000 or less would be stationed in Poland is an even more absurd example of how they blow everything out of proportion
when Russia simulates nuclear attack on Warsaw or even non-NATO Stockholm in their own military exercises, they are silent
the truth is, the vast majority of US forces were withdrawn from Europe decades ago, European countries have massively reduced military budgets, and Russia could push all the way to Berlin without encountering meaningful resistance if they really wanted to
>>76554721
>USA isn't going to invade anyone for leaving NATO.
That's because Krautland is occupied by them already.
>over 50000 troops to make sure that germans don't make wrong decisions
>>76546257
You mean the war started by Georgia and the EU financed unconstitutional coup of a democratically elected government?
>>76553584
fucking turk piece of shit.
you are definitely not native german
>>76558233
>to make sure that germans don't make wrong decisions
When did the US troops influence the decisions Germans make again?
>>76558234
>war started by Georgia
Sure thing buddy, mighty Georgia started a war against little poor innocent Russia.
>EU financed unconstitutional coup of a democratically elected government
'56 Hungary and '68 Czech Republic were also "evil west financed unconstitutional coups", luckily brave intervention of USSR forces put the end to these revolts :^)
>>76558030
>Maybe also splitting up into a few smaller states would help
>outsider wanting to divide your country to weaken you
Statements like that pretty much proves Ivan's propaganda true that the west wants to break up & occupy them. Nice going there.
>>76558234
This
>>76558728
>to weaken you
If by "weaken" you mean getting a few prosperous states with high GDP per capita and happy people instead of current clusterfuck of commieblocks, poverty and krokodil kept together by mobs and mafias then indeed, you're right.
>>76558650
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/04/22/obama-is-threatening-britain-over-the-eu-are-we-going-to-take-th/
Constantly. The krauts are just so cucked though that they don't even resist anymore. And also
>Georgia
Nice job with your strawmen there, kurwanigger.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/6247620/EU-blames-Georgia-for-starting-war-with-Russia.html
Not surprised that every conversation with a kurwa ends the same when you're at bottom of the list.
http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among-the-worlds-least-skilled/
>>76559139
And more strawmanning as one would expect from you. Would you be okay if ivan, EU or any foreign power/power block would be trying to take away "less prosperous" territories from your country without asking your or the locals' opinions?
>>76559709
>Georgian intervention in the region that is part of their country is "starting the war"
>But Russian invasion of Crimea was just a "peaceful defensive operation"
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/04/22/obama-is-threatening-britain-over-the-eu-are-we-going-to-take-th/
>Obama makes a statement
>Referendum is still happening
Yeah, your point?
>Would you be okay if ivan, EU or any foreign power/power block would be trying to take away "less prosperous" territories from your country
Show me where did I tell about "taking away parts of the country"?
I was clearly talking about Russia splitting into smallter states.
Russia and The U.S Committed To War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIpmyefwxJo
>>76551207
