damn… this is actually a really good point…
I used to be a huge homophobe but now it seems illogical to hate something that is normal and healthy
well /pol/ got anything to say about this?
Funny, no source...
Also
>a genetic defect that prevents the passing of genes
>>76528315
I'm gay and you're fucking retarded if you think we can raise children normally. We're not penguins you god damn bleeding heart jiggaboo.
Animals also kill and rape each other, so should that be legal as well?
Saying that it happens in nature so it's okay isn't a very good argument.
>>76528509
Reminder there's actually good evolutionary reasons for homosexuality.
>acts against overpopulation, this might be why you're more likely to be gay the more older brothers you have, if you're from a big family there might be limited resources in your area
>two masculine gay men would be better suited to go on long hunting trips away from the camp because their lover is with them so they won't want to stay close to the camp to be with their female partners like straight men would
>more feminine gay men who'd prefer to stay in the camp rather than hunt would still be physically stronger than the woman so can protect them in case of attack when all the more masculine men are out during the day hunting
>gay couples can adopt orphans of the tribe as they don't have their own kids to worry about like straight couples, this happens in certain other mammals
>>76528524
If a gay couple adopts they have to go through a screening process, unlike straights who can have kids whenever they want even if they're completely unfit to parent.
>>76528315
I find that hard to believe
Humans are the only species to have a sense of right and wrong.
>>76528908
>If a gay couple adopts they have to go through a screening process, unlike straights who can have kids whenever they want even if they're completely unfit to parent.
Well, come on, give me a source.
>>76528315
Actually, I'd consider homosexuality to be better at stopping loneliness, in times of unequal male:female ratios. So that there is rampant rape.
>>76529084
*isn't
>>76528315
>1500 animal species
Need a source for that one
>b-but only humans are b-bigots
This is like the same trashy argument every faggot has that war is an invention of people and that every animal lives together in harmony and peace
>>76529084
But right now, women slightly outnumber men
>>76528938
what about when a dog knows he did something bad?
>>76529241
It doesn't know it's done something bad, rather it understands that it might get in trouble for doing said thing.
>>76529241
He knows he did something you don't like which is different.
>>76529241
Conditioning your dog is not the same as giving it fucking morality
You are retarded
Animals
>rape
>murder
>cannibalize
>abandon
each other. This "argument" that since animals do it, it's OK, is dumb
/thread
>>76528315
Can't speak for the other animals, but female penguins usually kill orphans as they desperately try to adopt it if they don't find a mate.
>>76528908
Someone post that image of the two dads that were raping their adopted son, who was well under ten.
>>76529593
There are no recorded cases of homosexuality existing in animals in their natural habitat, not one, ever.
>>76529593
Probably shouldn't post that image actually
>>76529519
I saw that on "Planet Earth", they just trample the orphans to death because every penguin wants to adopt them.
>>76528509
The reproductive cost is too high for genetics to be responsible.
>>76528908
Selection is individual, not species level. For a behavior to be generated by evolution the gene involes has to cause its own frequency to rise in the population. All this self sacrifice crap only works if it helps siblings and cousins enough to outweigh the cost. Line-terminating a male from the get-go is one hell of a cost.
>>76529403
Wow and cannibal-phobia only exists in humans!
I guess Cannibalism is natural and important since it fills both random requirements
If you guys need me I'll be eating my neighbors
>>76529593
post the literal millions of anecdotal examples of christians who have AIDs and rape children
>>76528315
Homosexuality in animal almost always appears in overpopulated communities, is normally a sign of social degeneration and is always followed by an internal destruction of the community.
If they want to use this example for humans they are free to do it, but they can't deny that gays destroy societies and are a bad sign.
>>76529917
the really gross thing is that in your mind that is what happened when really its just people thousands of miles away youve never even met.
>>76529661
http://www.livescience.com/44464-bonobo-homosexuality-natural.html
>scientists remarked that the behavior must have arisen because those bonobos were locked in a zoo. But data gathered from the wild — and wild-born bonobos in captivity — over the past two decades has demonstrated that bonobo sexuality is just part of who they are
>>76529593
>cherrypicking this hard
of course, a heterosexual couple abusing or neglecting their child is perfectly fine, right goy?
>>76528315
Fags are the least of our problems.
>>76529178
>Need a source for that one
1500 is the number of species where any acts at all of gay sex or pair bonding have been recorded.
Only two species are kniwn two have life long exclusive homosexuality at rates as high as humans. The other species is domestic sheep.
>>76529917
nice strawman argument kid
>>76529995
>wild-born bonobos in captivity
Yup, seems like a natural environment to me.
>>76529310
it knows its done something bad according to its taught system of values, same as humans. the only difference is that dogs didnt come up with it. either ways, most humans act like dogs in this aspect, so just like you said they only dont do things because they might get in trouble (for example a mudshit leaving his religion even if he wants to)
>>76530027
You could have prevented the boy from being raped by not permitting sexual deviants to adopt.
>>76528315
>>76529993
>>76530050
Not an argument. Try refuting these instead:
>>76529716
>>76529748
>>76528315
See the Gay Uncle theory
so being a father makes you gay OP?
>>76530042
was that why brokeback mountain revolved around sheep herding?
>>76530057
>Data gathered from the wild AND wild born bonobos in captivity. Can you read?
>gay penguins
Lewd desu
>>76530227
you literally posted a strawman, there is no need to refute it. 99.999% of gay people do not act like they do in the comic you posted
how delusional are you?
>>76528315
>>76530451
Not an argument. Try refuting these instead:
>>76529716
>>76529748
you're all fags, you know?
>>76528315
>It's an appeal to nature fallacy
>>76528315
This faggotry needs a citation
>>76528997
Look at Africa. Point being that if two gay people want to raise a child they culturally have to work a lot harder to prove that they're fit to do so than a single mother who will just get knocked up by Jamal and use the child as a welfare check.
It's not a standard that should be lowered for gay people, but a standard that should be raised for welfare queens who are popping out future criminals because the surrogate father in the government will subsidize them.
>>76530295
Having a gay brother will not triple a woman's fertility, and that's what you would need just to break even.
sorry, but that ain't it.
>>76530340
>Cool source bro. Can you newline?
>>76528315
I really do hate you... I hate you, so much.
May your death be gruesome and painful, and may those who survive in your family do so with a fate worse than yours: Death.
>>76528315
It's the same as with blacks. Being black or being a faggot doesn't make you a retard but most of them are.
>>76528315
Hey OP, brain cancer is part of nature! Animals and people are sometimes born with brain cancer so it's completely normal. But only one species brain cancer phobic: the human
>>76528315
Pedophilia, Cannibalism and Rape is also natural and important
Male homosexuality in humans is caused by a combination of over exposure to estrogen in vitro and a gene that rides on the X chromosome and raises fertility in women. Similarly to the genes that pass on sickle cell anemia, which grants immunity to malaria, and cystic fibrosis, which protects one from typhoid, it is largely abberant, but beneficial in some situations.
>>76528315
Why do faggots feel the need to justify their faggotry. People justify thing when inside they feel what they are doing is wrong. When's the last time anyone tried to justify heterosexuality.
>>76530535
ok, gay people only have higher suicide rates because being gay is viewed as wrong and bad in america because of how bigoted and religious america is. this leads to gay people feeling depressed and unwanted.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662085/
> /pol/ will ignore this because it contradicts their bigoted close minded beliefs
in europe where being gay is seen as more normal suicide rates are much lower
>>76530681
I'm just gonna chalk this conversation up as a win
I'd like to see a source for gay animals adopting eachother.
Actually I'd like to see a dource for gay animal couples first.
I'm pretty sure in nature animals eat babies that don't have parents, even of the same species. Pigs will eat eachother's fucking piglets to force their own genes forward
>>76530535
>>76529716
>>76529748
Gay man here.
I won't refute the arguments. They are correct. I wish I were not gay. No I won't kill myself. I am a Christian. I know homosexuality is sin. But I understand that all sin may be forgiven if repented of.
Best way to solve the gay problem is to again Christianize the nation (and the West). We go back into the closet, learn healthier ways of coping (considering that acting out homosexual desire is EXTREMELY unhealthy), and do not spread our degeneracy.
More importantly we save more souls.
>>76528315
homosex is also the cure for overpopulation.
that and war
Gay's are ok, but trannies should be hung.
>>76531029
Nope read
>>76529716
First paragraph, yellow column.
>>76528315
Some animals also eat their own children, does that mean cannibalism should be accepted?
>>76529716
>first point out of the block draws from a study for group A in 1978 and draws a comparison to a study conducted for group B in 2007
poor form
>>76530144
hahahahahaha ebin XDDDD
>>76531580
then why are suicide rates for gay people lower in canada and europe where being gay is more accepted?
>>76530154
>gays are sexual deviants
Not an argument.
>>76531133
Whatever helps you make it through the night.
>>76532052
In relation to their predisposition towards sexual deviancy, then, yes, it is an argument against it.
Saying "It's not an argument" is not an argument.
>>76530851
Nice meme
>>76530954
People also justify things they feel they're doing right. Ever think of that?
>>76532049
Because why kill yourself when you can just have a refugee murder and rape you?
>>76531237
You're the good kind of faggot. Godspeed gaybro.
>>76531133
You can't say you won someing without actually wining you fag.
>>76532052
If it wasn't an argument, then were did this data come from?
>>76532202
>predisposition
Source? This gets thrown around constantly but it's not usually sourced.
>>76532081
You're just salty because I proved you wrong. Come now
>>76532343
Read the thread nigga
I hate sin so much.
Delusion has *GOT* to be sinful.
>>76528908
>acts against overpopulation, when whites are the minority of the world
Enough of this meme.
>gay couples can adopt orphans of the tribe as they don't have their own kids to worry about like straight couples, this happens in certain other mammals
This is incredibly dangerous because gays have statistically higher chances of child abuse and pedophilia.
>>76532391
Whether or not it's a predisposition is debatable. It is still found to be a frequent occurrence.
>>76528315
Remember that National Geographic documentary about faggot animals adopting baby animals?
Me neither.
>>76532352
It came from an anon who didn't include citations in his screenshots. Judging by the content, it looks like one of the 20-40 year old studies.
>>76532391
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
>This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.
>>76529814
>Selection is individual, not species level.
That's why Sharks secrete a scent of death the moment they expire that instantly drives off other sharks right?
>>76529814
Not if it's so closely tied to genes for promiscuity. Under the cynical /pol/ philosophy a homosexual is a poorly wired slut.
>>76530535
You didn't make an argument to refute, you posted infographs. Not an argument.
>>76528315
Of those 150 species (fuck all anyway)
113 of them use sex as a way of dominating and forcing another animal to be submissive against it's will.
of the remaining 37, 12 species, including giraffes and rhinos, will attack homosexuals, specially ones with children of their own, as they presumably do not want their children to be molested or indoctrinated by faggots.
That leaves about 25 species, the majority of which do it out of confusion, with the exception of 5 species who genuinely accept homosexuals.
Now consider how many species of animals there are, perhaps you will notice that there tends to be a natural pattern in attitudes to homosexuals.
P.S. Most animals are rapists, so I suppose that by that logic, rape is also OK.
>>76532612
Yeah, thats why I posted the second one.
Tried looking for sources, there aren't any for that pic.
Might as well delete it.
What is it nowadays with this many fags in /pol/?
Go die in a fire, you filthy homos. You are a disgrace to your parents and society.
>>76528315
>Humans are the only homophobes
How convenient that somehow no footage exists of straight animals beating up, killing, and eating gay animals.
To be honest the whole "homosexuality is/isn't" argument is completely retarded in the first place, either way you use it.
Being natural doesn't make something better in any way, and it sure as hell doesn't fucking matter when it comes to any political debate other than homosexuality.
>>76528315
So gays allow unfit bloodlines to survive?
>>76532983
You have a picture of guys sucking dicks on your computer, fag.
>>76531237
You are such a pathetic little cuck
>>76528315
Yeah, they are really important
>>76529213
>citation needed
as i see it, men outnumber women by ~100 Million cause of dumb chinese and indians
>>76531237
Why is it extremely unhealthy? Just get a husband, wear condoms, etc. Not hard. Straight hook up culture is far far more degenerate than having a stable gay relationship.
>>76528315
Classic positivism of the darwinistic dogma.
Fuck off only domesticated animals showed gay behaviors.
>>76528315
>minor incidents
>its fucking natural
>penguins in a fucking zoo where everything is fucking supplied to them
>animals having communities
I fucking swear those penguins probably thought they fucked a female especially when a actual baby appeared and then proceeded play their natural roles.
>>76533326
That's more of an argument for homosexuality than anything, because it points towards gay members of social animal species still willing to invest resources in the rearing of offspring.
>>76530144
such edge
>>76533388
Don't mind him, he just wants to be a good gay puppy for /pol/ to be all proud of him.
>>76533247
Ohhh, did I hurt poor faggy's feelings by reminding it that it is a disgrace to its parents?
Why don't you help cleanse the world of the DSTs you already have or will develop and just fucking kill yourself, cocksucker?
You are LESS than human. Even animals are better than you.
>>76533326
>The penguins placed stones at the feet of the parents before waddling away with their eggs
Well that's just fucking hilarious.
What's sad on the other hand is that there are people literally being sold as sex slaves, beaten and raped to death with no punishment at all in third world countries, and these faggots decide to protest for "gay animal rights" instead
>>76528315
Ffs, the same argument can be made for rape and infanticide. Both are natural, help the survival of the species and occur in more species than homosexual couples raising other people's offspring, which only happens in penguins and humans, as far as I know.
>>76528315
Small pox is natural. Doesn't mean it's good.
>>76534291
You didn't offend me. I don't think monkeys can offend humans, even if one throws shit at you you just get angry, not offended.
Did you know a fag was instrumental in creating the machine you're using now? Or no, because your low IQ nation can't comprehend technological innovation?
>>76532672
>nearly 25 years old
ebin
>>76532706
which sacrifices 0 of the sharks ability to reproduce.
>>76528315
Author also know about the rape, ganbangs and necrophilia penguins do too?
>>76534291
hahahahahahahahahahahaha FUCKINGGGGG EPICCCC MAN XDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>76528908
There was a study about how female relatives of gay's are more likely to have children.
>>76530042
>1500 is the number of species where any acts at all of gay sex or pair bonding have been recorded.
Aware of some of the 'studies, 2 of 5 had homosexual activists in lead positions, tampering with data. The other 3 failed in peer review, though one came back in another form, much corrected and passed peer review (have not read). 1500 is probably way high, but there are millions of species. Not statistically significant.
>>76534687
"We wuz inventors and shiet"
The homos of the past could contain their diseases to themselves, or find some other gay (sick) person and be with him discreetly.
Modern day faggots wants us all to believe that it's "natural" to be a Homo, and want to push their degeneracy into the minds of the youngs and everyone else.
Homosex is a disease. If that's what you have, at least keep it contained. Don't expect people to think your degeneracy is normal.
>>76533651
Stealing others younglings is investing reasorces.
Of course some gay animals or humans may have parental instinct but just becouse they have it it dosn't means they should raise a child.
>>76534362
Also they didn't think about papa and mama penguin feels :(
Well that settles it, I am now a #cruzmissle
>>76535384
>stealing others younglings to raise is investing resources
correct
>some gay animals or humans may have parental instinct but that doesn't mean that should raise a child
just because an animal or human who has a parental instinct is gay doesn't mean they should be unable to raise a child. I don't advocate for gay people stealing straight people's children just as I don't advocate for rape, but there are plenty of abandoned/unwanted children that need a good home and two parents.
>>76535283
>The homos of the past could contain their diseases to themselves, or find some other gay (sick) person and be with him discreetly.
Hadrian, one of the greatest statesmen in the history of humanity, was very open about parading his gay lover around, as was Alexander. What have you accomplished? A single gay man in history has accomplished more than your entire nation has to this day.
>>76529241
conditioning
>>76528315
Really makes you think.
>>76528315
Infanticide is also natural and found in many animal species.
I imagine leftist fuckers would have no problem defending that though.
>>76531237
You're a good guy, don't listen raiders from /lgbt/
>>76528315
>it happens in nature and can in isolated cases help "orphans"
Rape, cannibalism etc, we went over this.
Sage and move on.
>>76535742
Nice strawman.
>>76528315
I vote we raid the faggots on /lgbt/
Press f to vote
>>76532494
No, it is i's own punishment.
>>76535813
>strawman
Please look up what that actually means, kthx.
>>76533326
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>76532594
Holy shit, all of those sources are at least 20 years old.
>>76532305
>>76533292
Same nation, two entirely different opinions.
>>76529917
Lol, this picture really does sum it up, though. Leave your faggot shit in the closet where it belongs, no one cares or wants to be involved.
>>76535813
That isn't a strawman, it sounds awful because it's the logical progression of a different fallacy that was used in the OP, the appeal to nature. Something being natural does not necessarily make it correct. That anon was pointing that out by providing a clearly negative example of something that also occurs in nature.
>>76532612
20-40 years old? but not refuted...
Newton's been dead how long? Gravity doesn't get refuted either.
>>76531237
Fuck off, faggot, your spirit is not redeemed. You're still an abomination in God's eyes.
>>76536168
That's basically comparing apples to the solar system.
>>76536244
God doesn't exist.
>>76536252
They're a lot alike.
>>76535593
There are plenty of straving children in the world. That dosen't means they should work in a mine.
Adoptions is not a current year style. Nowadays gays use surrogates mothers in poor country.
>>76536168
>Newton's been dead how long? Gravity doesn't get refuted either.
Didnt some dumb bitch say gravity was sexist and patriarchal because a white guy discovered it
>>76536359
No they aren't. The laws of gravity don't change over time, but statistics of a population do.
>>76535813
It's not a strawman you dunce, it's an example of how their logic is flawed.
Natural != Correct
>>76528315
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/06/08/nba-raises-money-for-gay-organization-that-instructed-hs-students-on-fisting/
>>76536443
Apples have a core. The solar system has a core.
>>76536289
>God duznt ekszist ;)
Nice one, bro. You're completely right. You have seen and know everything.
>>76529310
Pretty sure there are many recorded cases of random dogs saving people's lives.
>>76536381
>There are plenty of straving children in the world. That dosen't means they should work in a mine.
I don't even see how that follows from what I said. Those children should have loving homes. And that is what I am saying.
>>76530027
Wow swap the words liberal and consecutive and you have a perfect guide to reddit, tumblr, and Facebook.
>>76530117
Humans understand why the values exist, dogs don't.
>>76536579
Oh man, that really makes me think...
The reason for higher deviancy in the homosexual population is two fold.
One is the evolution of post-modern sexual liberation values into a life-style homosexuality that recruits and shames those who don't join in.
The second is the fact that greater intelligence and neurodiversity seems to correlate with a preference for novel behaviors.
http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/JBS2012.pdf
>The Savanna-IQ Interaction Hypothesis, derived from a logical conjunction of the
Savanna Principle and a theory of the evolution of general intelligence, suggests that
more intelligent individuals may be more likely to acquire and espouse evolutionarily
novel preferences and values than less intelligent individuals, while general intelligence
may have no effect on the acquisition and espousal of evolutionarily familiar preferences
and values.
This may suggest that the argument of gays being pedos or bugchasers stems from the same neurologically based desire for novelty, and that the gays and gay pedos and the overly degenerate are mixed in studies and statistics because there isn't a surefire way to determine who's who.
Its not that difficult to simply be responsible, be safe, and not fuck everyone and do drugs associated with the "gay" lifestyle culture.
Just in case anyone desired an intelligent post ITT.
>>76536616
Yeah and a loving home means a mother and a father.
>>76528315
>Homosexuality is fine cause it's found in nature
So is rape, cannibalism, and infanticide. Why aren't those legal if they're natural?
>>76533326
>urged the zoo bosses
they made some stupid hashtag go viral and scare the zoo.
>>76536781
And that's where you're wrong, my friend.
>>76528315
http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/17/dear-gay-community-your-kids-are-hurting/
That may be true with animals but as a human you need both a mother and father figure growing up.
>>76536846
How about you compare the effects of being an orphan to having gay parents?
It's still the plain old naturalistic fallacy, OP.
Humans are the only species to do plenty of things.
I despise all faggots.
>>76536604
They do it for treats.
>>76529661
That is untrue. I have seen male dolphins fuck each other.
Don't try and bullshit. Homosexuality is disgusting, but we need to use TRUTH to prove that.
>>76531029
Cute next tell me transgender people all kill themselves because pls no bully and not because they are mentally invalid and ruined their genitals
>>76528315
thb, I think it's a killswitch to help preventing overpopulation. Animals aren't homophobe because their 90% of their gays don't act like full-blown autists. If they would, theyd hate them too.
>>76537125
Forgot to mention: Does anyone have some kind of statistic about that? Like x% in 100.000 people in cities vs x% in the countryside?
Would genuinely interest me, whether there is a difference or not.
>>76528315
Animals don't actually fuck each other up the ass and a human fucking another human up the ass can cause serious health problems because nothing is supposed to go in your ass male or female.
Go fuck yourself and your liberal faggot propaganda.
>>76537125
Pretty sure it's the same for humans, really. You just rarely hear about the quiet ones.
>>76537125
Homosexuals most likely produce innovation at a higher rate per capita than heterosexuals, this could also be a significant evolutionary advantage.
>>76536670
We can only hope. Not holding my breathe though...
>>76537384
That stat would probably be muddied by the liberal trend in cities.
>>76528509
>what is group survival mechanisms
>>76528315
This should be common knowledge for anyone with a highschool degree.
TRANS "people" on the other hand are mentally unstable genetic scum.
>>76528315
Under this argument homosexuality would have a negative impact on the species. First, were they to be Herero thy could have offspring of their woman's not need to adopt and thus compete against others to pass on the most desirable genes. Second, by adopting the orphans of their dead counterparts they extend a genetic line which has proven to be undesirable. Overall homosexuality would undermine natural selection and the betterment of the species.
>>76528908
In reality they'll just crush each other's ass to death while their village is being burned down.
>>76528315
Being gay is fine, being a 'Woman' in a Man's body is fucking stupid and you need to die.
>>76528908
why tf would evolution put in a defense mechanism against overpopulation
It wasn't a problem when we were evolving, and even if it were a thing, by definition it can't be passed to offspring
>>76536928
The "study" would be definitely objective. Like all others pro-gay parenting "studies"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000580
>>76538802
How about study the outcomes of people who were orphans and compare it to the outcomes of people who were parented by gay couples like I suggested? Can you not read a single sentence?
>>76528315
whats the adoption procedure for animals adopting other animals? can they cross species?
>>76528315
Rape is also natural and important. Animals do it all the time.
https://youtu.be/QGwvVlD4Itg
>never succeeds
>Chick is kill
>>76529310
>>76529327
>>76529362
>>76535681
What about if we don't have morality and we are conditioned by thought and others telling us what to do/what to think?
>>76528315
Why do people care about who's homosexual and whether it's wrong?
If you want to fuck a woman in bed, that's your problem. If you want to fuck a man in bed, that's your problem. Just as long as you don't bring it outside, I don't care, and nor should you (since it doesn't affect you).
Besides, these Christfags (fuck them as much as the sandniggers) are pushing away the debate from the real issues: immigration, the economy, etc. Why should we debate this bullocks when we can debate the things that really affect us, and society?
>>76528315
>according to science
Stopped reading there.
>>76539243
I said it's dosen't matter becouse I already know the outcame. They always mess with methodology in studies comparing gay vs striagt parents and a study gay "kids" vs orphans" is too easy.
Orphan
>Poor and probably not educated
Kid with gay "parents"
>Rich and educated since parents are rich enough to adopt a kid or buy a kid from a surrogate mother.
>Wow gay parentin really works.
You don't need gays to solve orphan problem. You just need a normal foster family.
>>76528315
I don't really care about faggots, they're fine with me. Because I'm a faggot myself. No homo bro.
>>76540650
Foster families are often shitty.
>>76536244
that's not Biblical
>>76540650
>wow these people are rich and educated
>of course it's going to work what are you stupid?
>let them adopt? why would I do that?
it sounds like gays are helping to solve the orphan problem
You admit it yourself in this post that when you have gay parents with good qualifications to adopt, it goes well.
Just say you don't like gay people adopting children, don't try to legitimize it.
>>76528315
of course, they don't tell you that gays "reproduce" by diddling children
>homosexuality in animals
no such thing
animals will hump anything when horny
i saw cows mounting other cows
also your dog isnt pillowsexual for raping a pillow
>important for survival
only very few animals adopt
also if the parents die it means they are weak and their offspring wont survive
natural selection
>>76530656
Every single country in Africa is fucked up. South Africa's Prime Minister is getting charged with embezzlement for fucks sake. Trying to use countries who don't have their own shit together just makes your point moot.
>>76541702
That guy wanted a source on straight people being able to just have kids regardless of qualifications(like it was needed) and Africa is the most glaring example of that. I went on to talk about american blacks by using the same reasoning and how it's compounded by the issue of welfare but you got triggered and closed your eyeballs apparently.
>I didn't like that first sentence so the rest of your post doesn't matter
you sound very stupid
>>76541125
I highlighted rich and educated becouse that what they usually measure. There are others factors that are importang lie for example learnig female and male role but that dosen't matter for people who think there are more then two genders. Of course "scientists" always peaks a good sample of gays. And like I say before they not only adopting but also buying children from surrogates mothers, and there is a better way of solving problem of oprhan kids.
>>76539733
Maybe you don't but most human children are inherently able to understand basic right from wrong as long as they aren't fucked in the head or just generally assholes.
> good goyim, white homosexuals shouldn't have children
> only Jewish homosexuals should procreate
>>76541552
They don't. You're full of shit.
>>76540371
Good post
>>76542270
>equating gay people with transgender people now
where are you moving those goalposts?
>of course scientists will say that gays are good
>but these scientific studies and statistics that confirm my beliefs are just fine
killing me here with your poor english and bad reasoning
>not only adopting but also buying children from surrogate mothers
>there is a better way of solving orphan kids
Like allowing gay people to adopt? How about encouraging properly qualified gay people to adopt? But no, even though you yourself admit that properly qualified gay parents work out, you insist here >>76536781 that you need a mother and father. If you hate gay people more than you want orphaned children to have good homes then that's your prerogative.
makes u think
>>76543365
Rape is completely natural and most feminine girls even fetishize it.
The only girls that are against it are the obese dykes on Tumblr.
>>76542974
>equating gay people with transgender people now
It didin't happen.
>but these scientific studies and statistics that confirm my beliefs are just fine
I've only linked to analysis.
>killing me here with your poor english and bad reasoning
I'm terribly sorry for my english and literal errors, and only for that.
>Like allowing gay people to adopt? How about encouraging properly qualified gay people to adopt? But no, even though you yourself admit that properly qualified gay parents work out, you insist here >>76536781 (You) that you need a mother and father. If you hate gay people more than you want orphaned children to have good homes then that's your prerogative.
Still using "orphan child meme", despite the fact nowadays it's more popular to just buy a kid from surrogate mother.
>>76540865
Also there usually aren't enough of them.
>>76544264
You brought transgender people into this in a response to why gay people are fit to adopt. You said that male and female roles were important factors in this gay parenting thing, but said that it doesn't matter for people who think there are more than two genders. You're bringing something irrelevant into the conversation that is unrelated to what we were arguing about.
The analysis is fine if it's done by scientists that support your viewpoint, instead of by "scientists" that don't. Understood.
Instead of trying to keep gay people from adopting orphaned children, encourage it to help solve the problem. You are part of the reason why it's more popular to buy a child. Saying that it's more popular to do option B doesn't address my point about option A.
I don't care much about your english skills because you're still very much understandable but if you keep arguing like an idiot I'm going to stop bothering.
>>76536700
>One is the evolution of post-modern sexual liberation values into a life-style homosexuality that recruits and shames those who don't join in.
>The second is the fact that greater intelligence and neurodiversity seems to correlate with a preference for novel behaviors.
Those are actually some pretty interesting points.
I'm, however, kind of optimistic in regard to the first point, in the sense that I've consistently noticed that younger generations of gay people tend to be much less involved an interesting in the whole gay "lifestyle" as their older counterparts.
I assume that not knowing a world where they had to keep their homosexuality secret - and therefore, where long-term relationships were more difficult to maintain than frequent hookups - probably has a lot to do with it.
Regarding the "pedo" thing, isn't it relatively common for male pedophiles who prey on children to not identify as gay? I wonder if their same-sex attraction is limited to children, or if they are closeted gay who for some reason end up thinking that it "doesn't count" if it's children or something.
>>76528315
Two factors of why we don't hava to allow homosexuals has children.
87% of homosexuals have father absence or father problems:
http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/dr-warren-throckmorton/does-father-absence-cause-homosexuality-11596147.html
http://fathersforlife.org/dale/childhood_of_homosexual_men_2.htm
and homosexuals couple are very shorts:
http://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_Couple_Longevity_Forthcoming_JMF.pdf
This is principal reason why they can't adopt or have children is dangerous and there's a very high rate of new homosexuals.
Everything based in documentation
>>76528315
Can those leftards please stop, my life is already too bad without them using me as a meat shield.
>>76529241
Nope, he knows he did something his owner does not like, he doesn't care if it's wrong or not.
>>76546068
>87% of homosexuals have father absence or father problems:
Absolutely worthless statistic if we cannot compare to the equivalent percentage for straight people. For all we know, the majority of the world's probably could have "father absence or father problems".
>no sources
nope fuck off
>>76546335
for north america are still low rates.
and at least in chile the statistics are right, all my homosexual friends has father absence while mostly of my heterosexual friends has mother and father who has any kind of absence is now a thug guy or something like that.
>>76545079
Forgot to add "meta" to analysis. It's bacislly a study of a studies.
>Highlights
► A 26 of 59 APA studies on same-sex parenting had no heterosexual comparison groups. ► In comparison studies, single mothers were often used as the hetero comparison group. ► No comparison study had the statistical power required to detect a small effect size. ► Definitive claims were not substantiated by the 59 published studies.
Besides, I'm saying there are things that are hardly measurable like learning male and female roles in family, especially when a study is carried out by LGBT friendly institute
>>76546579
>and at least in chile the statistics are right, all my homosexual friends has father absence while mostly of my heterosexual friends has mother and father who has any kind of absence is now a thug guy or something like that.
Anecdotal evidence means absolutely fucking nothing. I'm a fag and have a great father who has never been abusive, absent, violent or anything, meanwhile my best friend is completely straight and never met his father because he's still in jail in Algeria for having killed his grandfather - and yet that still doesn't mean anything.
You can't make assumptions based on your own experience - an individual's life and acquaintances is NOT an unbiased sample of human society.
Holy fuck that's not how evolution works
>>76528315
if the parents werent able to survive then the offspring should have died. Thats how natural selection works.
The idea of probably unfit offspring surviving because it gets raised by biologically unrelated adults makes no fucking sense. How does this benefit the species?
>>76546885
Indeed.
However, the idea that the presence of homosexual individuals in some tribes/populations/however it's called could lead to better survival & greater overall population growth in said tribe isn't *that* unreasonable, to be honest.
I'm just not convinced that actual homosexuality - as opposed to homosexual behavior, which by human standards would really be more equivalent to bisexuality - really exists in the animal kingdom. At least, I don't remember ever seeing actual examples.
>>76547204
>isn't *that* unreasonable, to be honest.
yes it is! Know whats better for the survival of a species than adopted parents? PARENTS!
>>76529716
>28% of gay men had more than 1k partners
Statistical improbability and the research was literally made on doors of bathhouses (like many others)
>79% of homos say over half of sex partners are strangers
Same as above
>fidelity
Straights just lie a fucklot more
>Emotional health
The small dating pool literally kill your mental health. What would be normal for others is literally a crazily small chance for us.
>5% of the pop accounting for 63% of aids cases
Does not differentiate between black and white gays, and that 5% means of self identifying gay men, that means if a bisexual man has a wife and fucks a guy on the side and doesn't identify himself as gay he'll answer no. That's why HIV statistics changed from "gay/hetero" to "MSM/hetero".
THAT BEING SAID homos do have to deal with a situation where both partners have their lust fuelled by testosterone. And even on straight culture there's a degenerative behaviour where men try to fuck as many women as they can.
Sure the majority of gay men are shitty but that's the case with the general population as well.
>>76547405
I think you are under the impression that natural selection is some sort of evolution towards the optimal or better : it's not.
Natural selection has no sense or better or worse - the only criteria that matters is really "do the offsprings end up having offsprings?".
>>76535959
so then refute them, I'm sure there are studies done that have shown contrary data, right?
>>76545737
I'm optimistic on that point as well. They're growing up now with much more acceptance and less pressure to conform to the sexual lifestyle standards to fit in.
>Regarding the "pedo" thing, isn't it relatively common for male pedophiles who prey on children to not identify as gay?
I believe that's pretty common, yeah.
>I wonder if their same-sex attraction is limited to children, or if they are closeted gay who for some reason end up thinking that it "doesn't count" if it's children or something.
Who knows. No sizable enough group is going to admit to being pedophiles, I doubt we'll have significant statistics on that for a long time. It seems like most boylovers are exclusively attracted to boys or primarily attracted to them to me, and the movements for pedo acceptance admire mainstream LGBT movements I believe and used to be tied into them.
>>76528315
>no sources
>straight people don't adopt
>>76549245
Well, straight people would have less of an incentive to adopt unless they were sterile, really.
