Hey /pol/acks,
I had a rather nasty discussion yesterday with my new gf about Islam. It started when I cited a Danish study that found (like so many others) that the second and third generation of muslims will be more radical and more fundamentalist than former generation.
She said it's "horrible" that I try to discredit the majority of peacful muslims.
She then went on to state that Islamic terrorist attacks like in Paris are not done because of Islam, but because the poor people are lured into it and would become ciminals either way, so it's really not Islam's fault. The whole thing reminded me of Pic related.
After two hours we just stopped discussing and she was kinda mad, not particulary at me, just mad. Cognitive dissonance much?
Anyway, how to properly redpill her so that she doesn't just shut down?
Probabaly try it on a more emotional level? Should I maybe begin with Rotherham and tell her about the poor little girls?
Any Suggestions?
TL;DR
How to properly redpill my gf so that she doesn't close her eyes when faced with reality
>>76506028
Ah, fuck that typo in the header
Cite Rotheram, as well as female genital mutilation in Somalia and the increasing prevalence of FGM in Britain. There's something thread rolling around about a sudden jump on cases being treated in British hospitals
>sincerely, a redpilled gf
Don't lose hope anon. Islam is the enemy of all women, she just needs to learn that.
we need "redbill" memes
now
>>76506189
Thanks so far.
>Don't lose hope anon. Islam is the enemy of all women, she just needs to learn that.
That's what riddles me, why would you defend Islam, especially as a woman? Where are all the feminists, the women's rights groups? So fucking frustrating that I have to risk my relationship to my gf because of this whole issue
>>76506028
Drop the dumb bitch, if she is this stupid/brainwashed there in nothing you can do.
>>76506898
is*
>>76506898
She'll drop him most likely
>>76506028
You cannot reason a women to being redpilled with logic and facts. You have to play to emotions.
Start with fear of opening her mouth and talking shit will get her smacked in the mouth.
>>76507639
Not sure if the Russian approach is the right solution here.
>>76507354
Think so too, wouldn't be the first time. And I didn't even get started on the things I really care about.
>>76506028
Remind her that the worst jihadist are college educated.
All of the 9/11 hijackers had degrees in mechanical engineering or some bullshit.
Which is often the case.
Its actually not the poor dumb muslims.
It's the intelligent muslims doing this. These are the muslims that actually interpret the holy book correctly, which is to say violence and torture are not only acceptable tactics, but also mandatory tactics for the muslim faith.
Look up bin ladins education and wealthy background.
Look up abu bahgdadi.
The 9/11 highjackers
Jihadi john
Etc etc
All coming from wealthy families and many times college educated. Thks esessentially destroys her little niave argument about these mudslimes being poor ol helpless souls who would turn to crime eventually.
1 last note.
How can people seriously say it's not their mudslime faith that compels them to act in such a barbaric manner? They literally tell us their reasons are faith based. Literally. They hold their 1 finger up while chopping off heads. They scream allah akbar. They get in interviews and say specifically why their faith compels them to do this.
And yet people like your girlfriend exist. One would have to go out of ones way to deny all the evidence and take this stance that religion is not the sole driver in these acts.
What is your girlfriend really even saying? Its not religion. These people flying airplanes into buildings and strapping bombs to themselves and firing assualt rifles into crowds are all doing this because they are poor and stupid and cannot think for themselves.
What shes really saying is the most bleek and depressing and grossly racist thing of all. Shes essentially saying arabs are genetically predisposed towards stupidity and acts of barbarism.
Remind her that poor and dumb people live EVERYWHERE. Not just the middle east. And yet, you wont find poor dumb people from kentucky beheading apostates, drowning sunnis, blowing themselves up at walmart. Hmm.
If she still can't see any problems with islam despite all the clear evidence to the contrary, she might be a lost cause and too stubborn to ever reconsider her beliefs. Only appeal to emotion will probably have any chance of working on people like her.
I'd take the angle of women vs. islam, and ask her opinion about this:
http://quran.com/4/34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Tw7WhH_aQ
I'd also ask what she thinks of hijab and burqa, or the concept that women are slutty whores who have to cover their bodies so they won't seduce men into sin, or that men are so unable to control their dicks that the blame in these kinds of situations lies with the woman:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/26/australia.marktran
Qur'an allows polygamy (but only for men) and sex slaves. A raped woman will have to produce four male eyewitnesses to prove her claim about the man raping her; otherwise it's assumed that the woman is not telling the truth. When people call for sharia law to be implemented, this is what they want. So basically I'd try to make your gf see what islam means for women's rights, and how her life would be affected in a muslim society. If islam were to become dominant in Europe, European men could simply convert into it and revert into a hardcore conservative patriarchy. Liberal people like her would have the most to lose.
This is a pretty good FAQ by an ex-muslim. See if it has arguments you could use, or if you can convince your gf to look into the arguments on her own:
http://faithfreedom.org/faq.htm
>>76506028
You didn't start with Cologne? Are you not German?
>>76506028
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5wTNqOQL-8
Fucking WATCH it.
>Wait, an hour long?
Yes, an HOUR long.
>That is so long, though!
And?
>But..... so long!
WATCH IT.
>>76506028
Links to said study or the others? Interdasting
>>76506028
My girl knows I'm smarter than her and accepts pretty much anything I say as gospel. Feels good man. The redpilling was easy.
>>76508499
Women love being controlled and told what to do.
Hmm. Maybe tell her to live as a Muslim woman for a week. You get to beat her ass and she has to put out or get her ass beat.
>>76506028
actually the attackers were middle class, as is usually the case w terrorists or revolutionaries.
>>76508583
>All of the 9/11 hijackers had degrees in mechanical engineering or some bullshit.
>>76506028
Tell her that whether Islam is the symptom or the disease is immaterial. For whatever reason, the Muslim migrants as a group have demonstrated themselves incapable of satisfactory assimilation to a civilized society, and their children and grandchildren are even worse than the parents.
>>76506736
you never really hear about the horrible things islam does (aside from terrorist attacks). You just here "huurr, islam good to women. Hurr #notallmuslims". Eventually you'll believe it to some degree.
>>76509670
I am, I mentioned Cologne once or twice, no idea why I didn't put more emphasize on it. Will do next time, but of course she's going to say "oh but that's only incident, not all of them"... etc. pp..
>>76510019
Lucky you
>>76509848
Watching now
>>76509960
Will look for it
>>76510211
Tried to go that path, but she didn't really buy into it. "You are generalizing, that's so stupid and mean"
>>76510424
Tell her that generalizing based on available data is the rational thing to do when deciding whether to let one million of something come live in your house. It's called pattern recognition, and our cavemen forebears worked too hard to evolve it for us to deliberately ignore patterns because they might hurt somebody's feelings.
>>76506028
Just bring up Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, etc. Aka 100% muslim countries.
They can't argue against that.
>>76510424
In Finland we had a similar mass rape/groping/harrassment thing on New Year's, as did several other Euro cities. Our police force tried to voice their concern since according to them this sort of harrassment is completely unheard of in this country before the immigrants came.
It's not just one incident, it's either
a) cultural or
b) organised attack executed simultaneously in several euro cities to cause chaos, meaning that the "refugees" are actually an organised force that is ready to attack the locals.
See which interpretation she likes better
>>76506028
>2016
>Having a German gf
She loves Ahmed bro don't you get it
>/pol/ still hasn't taken the cuck pill
Listen up 'cuz this is important.
I'm going to be straight here. I'm a cuck, but I am also a white nationalist. I believe that whites have contributed more to humanity than any other race, space travel, antibiotics the list goes on. But when it comes down to it, blacks are just better at fucking. Theres no shame in admitting it. There is no shame in admitting that despite the infinite intellectual and moral superiority of the white race, black dick is just better at pleasing a woman.
White women are turning from the cause and running to niggers simply because they are not being sexually satisfied. Can you blame them? If you dont get enough to eat at home your going to go out to eat. The only way to save the white race from certain extinction is cuckolding. My pure aryan wife is my the apple of my eye. I want nothing but the best for her. So every weekend she gets to have her fill of big black cock. And our relationship goes on like normal. We love each other, and plan on having a child soon. She also shares my red pilled beliefs.
Monogamy is a tool of the jew. Just give it a chance once. Its exhilarating. Theres something deeply majestic about watching a toned muscular black bull going in and out of a beautiful white woman. Try it once.
>>76506028
pictures of muzzie made clitorectomies as screen saver
>>76510787
Told her that, she didn't accept it.
>>76510870
She simply replied "that's just because they had wars there like forever". When I named countries where there were no wars and where muslims still did what muslims do she simply ignored it.
>>76506028
Women are retarded and there is no hope for them. We might aswell hope that the islamization of the West prevents women from voting in the future.
>>76506028
I get to redpill all my friends hard as fuck on Muslims since my family is from syria. They are a knit christian community, assyrians if you will.
I tell them about how my family was quiet literally murdered by the Muslims when refusing to convert. Alot of my extended family is dead now, but the rest of them made it to the states. I also never forget to mention the assryian,armanian genocide.
Shit always wins me any debate haha.
>>76506028
I got a Hindu girlfriend. She has more extreme views on the subject than I do.
>>76511299
Always thought Finns were good shitposters, well done son.
>>76512863
>Israel doesn't count as the middle east
I appeal to my authority on the subject. lolbachelors degree in in't relations and development. I invoke my countless days spent watching docs and reading history. I also promise her 3 white children, that helps too lol.
redpilled gf is nice. she hates the muslims most of all
>>76506028
Shift blame onto the Jews.
Your people are good at that.
Your GF is obviously fucking tanned Germans on the side.
Do you honestly think people can't connect the dots between terrorism and Islam?
Ask yourself why any woman would defend Islam and you'll see that this is the truth.
>>76506028
My wife was already on the fence. She looks up to me ,and she started shifting when I started getting more into politics (supporting Trump). This video also really helped https://youtu.be/44vzMNG2fZc however some people will never change so if it upsets you that much, move on.
Quote the quran. Many quotea that totally discredit islam
>>76513273
They don't call us "cancerfinns" at Krautchan for nothing.
>>76506028
Who the fuck cares, dump her. Never invest a lot of time and energy into a woman or she'll forever b8 you with a sunk cost fallacy. Get a redpilled Eastern German qt or a Pole for a gf.
>>76506028
Tell her you're converting and buy her a burqa to wear.
If she resists threaten her.
Demand to take multiple girlfriends.
If she resists threaten her.
>>76506028
Sounds like your gf is boots for trousers, eats paint chips off the back porch, drinks air conditioning drippings, 100% fucking retarded.
>>76506028
Listen up faggot.
You need to show her you know your shit. Don't talk about it, just fucking show her. You're a man, you know what to fucking do. Be the fucking alpha you never were. You don't give a shit about if she believes it or not, you just fucking state the facts and fucking leave it at that.
You. Leave. It. At. That.
If she starts crying mommy like all women do, so the fuck what? You know you're right.
Start fucking blaming the jews for everything, when you see a nigger riding a bike you gotta think out loud "I wonder where he stole that bike from", and when you see the headlines say Paris got bombed, say to her "I bet it was the fucking muslims again", because it most likely will be. Don't take her shit. Say everything as if it is fact, undeniable fucking fact.
Just fucking show her you believe in something, and don't take any of her shit.
You're a fucking man, faggot, start fucking acting like it.
What have mudslides done for you?
Have they helped you?
Have they helped women?
Have they helped your country?
Your community?
The answer to all these is no.
But have they done bad things to women, other countries, and other people?
Yes.
So why do you defend them? They haven't done anything worth of your compassion or empathy. Only fools pour those feelings onto others for no reason. It's something that needs to be earned.
>>76506028
Ask her why the Muslim high priests (forgot what they're called) and other Muslims refuse to denounce terror attacks
>>76511299
>posts well crafted bait
>gets dubs
>>76506717
Redbill her by going benis in bagina :DDD
>>76506736
Because it's the politically correct thing to do. Especially from a woman's standpoint, the uplifting of Muslims and Islam is a feminist topic, and we wouldn't want to be anti-feminist would we? It's the peer pressure we learn since childhood - contrary to popular belief every millennial woman hasn't been taught that they're weak and have to submit; we've been taught 'girl power' and that we're just as smart as those dumb smelly boys and need to band together!!!1!!
Because that was drilled in my head, becoming a feminist is the next natural course of sticking with other women to prove the boys wrong... so we're in turn spoonfed the lies that go along with feminist doctrine (HAES, Islamic rights, wage gap, muh racism, muh faggots, etc).
We aren't taught to question that Islam could possibly be counterintuitive to feminist doctrine - why would it be? It's FEMINISM after all. How could that possibly be an oxymoron?
Basically, you've gotta break the conditioning. When you take away one of the building blocks the rest will soon come down
>tl;dr Being indoctrinated as a feminist as a young age leads to ignorance
Don't argue with her, just lead by example. Take it for granted that you are right and she's wrong. If she likes you, she will slowly adopt your beliefs.
>>76506028
just get her some bbc and video tape it
>>76515314
>>76514528
Probably the best advice
my gf is the one that redpills me, just yesterday she was telling me about muslim "bacha bazi"
It is very easy to guide women down the right path, you just have to be able to calmly and rationally explain your way of thinking. This requires an amount of intelligence on your part, as well as understanding your partner's mindset, so that you may offer these points in a way that is most pleasing to her.
Never try to force anything, it will only push her away more.
>>76515638
she's the man in the relationship
have you already started wearing skirts?
>>76506028
>How to redbill your gf?
Not possible.
>>76506028
It took me countless dates where the women would end up offended or they would say something like' kids shouldnt be smacked' before i found the right one.
My fiancé is redpilled already, she
>hates blacks
>mixed raced people
>race mixing
>multiculturalism
>jews,muslims,chinese,arabs,mexicans
>thinks men shouldnt do housework
>has her privates groomed to how i like
>wants 5+ white babies with me
>wants us to move on a farm so she can home school the kids.
>loves cooking
You cant 'redpill' a girl, her dad needs to do that as she grows up.
Look for one already sharing your views, theres a good chance she will be submissive and traditional for you as well. Goodluck
>deutsche frauen
just give up
>>76517302
>>76517302
this
get a russian or polish one, it's not hard in germany to find one
>>76519465
True, and I think they are good wife material. Problem is, they like to stick to their own kind.
>>76519627
>they like to stick to their own kind.
well i have two cousins in germany and that's not true, maybe with russians it's true
