Give me one good reason to stay in the EU that doesn't make you sound like a complete cuck or a 14yr old communist wannabe
>>76495137
most mainlanders who know what's going on with the EU don't want you to stay
so gtfo and let the union be a damn union, no more stinky rromanians taking your jerbs, everyone wins
>>76495137
Because there was a girl with a swastika tattoo who's voting to leave
So anyone who votes leave is a Nazi and the very worst of goyim
>>76495829
>so gtfo and let the union be a damn union
>Slavic Europe and civilized Europe
>>76496067
nice argument fag
>>76495137
>one good reason to stay in the EU that doesn't make you sound like a complete cuck
but this isnt possible
There is no reason.. Jesus 75% of the fucking planet was British at one point...
Fucking don't let Britain go down with a whimper..please!
>>76495137
Being able to sell your shit without paying border fees and employ high end specialists from a 500 m. human market seems like a good thing.
>>76495137
Pax Britannica when?
>>76496538
shh
but muh abduls and gypsies
>>76496479
>75%
nice american history there
>>76495137
It would affect the City of London's finance sector.
>>76496538
..but we don't get high end specialists. We get shop assistants and toilet cleaners.
everyone i spoke to only concerned about the people who will rule over us if we leave, shape shifters.
>65% turnout
>Brexit wins by under 1%
>"I-it's not legally binding, that tiny majority isn't a mandate! Let us renegotiate more"
>get further 'reforms'
>lose second referendum
Kek came to me in my dreams and showed me this
>>76496538
>UK
>France
>Germany
>getting high end specialists from anywhere else but their own countries
Don't make me laugh
>>76495137
> mfw you stay eternally enriched by hordes of Poles....
>>76495137
you should stay in the eu because you absolutely should vote to leave the eu.
>>76496878
That's how EU does referendums, you have to vote until they get result they want
>>76496538
>brexit = complete halt to all immigration
whatever. the idea is to only allow "high end specialists" in not an open door to whatever the fuck wants in.
cost of EU > border tariffs
Well it's obvious. It's 2016.
>>76496935
They bring me over cheap smokes, mfw
>>76497834
And ve simply luv yuo
You should stay in it so you can get that big Muslim god of light dick, right up that virgin brown eye.
A giant asteroid will crash into the midlands and sink the Isles if we vote to leave.
Trust me I'm a doctor.
You will absolutely get fucked short term economically. Most of the EU companies are completely protectionist right now which means they are shit. Your companies haven't had to compete with the real world for a long time because you can sell all of your products for 10-15% cheaper in EU than all your competitors. When you get rid of the protectionism most of your companies will fail as do all companies that have survived on protectionism. Overall it will be better for Brits though.
>>76495137
>>76495137
Pardon my American ignorance on this topic, but if you stay can you use it as leverage to accumulate economic and political power after the inevitable economic collapse of weaker nations?
>>76498113
In theory, yes.
In practice any kind of reformation or leveraging in our favour is impossible, we've tried for years.
>>76498213
I see. Probably best to bail then.
Can someone post the obnoxious black girl from the debates twitter link? I want to show someone.
Made a Brexit vid wat think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFHDYSFbf0
>>76495137
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/04/15/leading-members-of-brexit-campaign-call-for-privatisation-of-the-nhs-and-much-worse/
Basically two sides of neolibs fighting over who can sell off your country to multinationals. However please vote leave and take the plunge for rest of us. Maybe it'll cause enough ripples to world economy to finally crush it to it's own idiocy so we can figure out something better and more sustainable. Do sharpen your pitchforks and prepare your molotovs though because the powers that be will likely target UK for their misbehavior just like many countries and politicians before it.
>>76498083
>Bonjuorino
TRIGGERED
>>76498018
80% of economy is in services industry not manufacturing, less than 40% of that is provided to EU members.
>>76496878
May Kek will it so. All praise Kek!!!
>>76498113
The leverage part is the only part the remain camp are right about. It's harder to leave a club, lose your voting rights, then try negotiate new terms than to change things internally.
>>76498018
This. Things will be shitty for a little while and everyone will say I told you so, but in the end after you readjust you will be a stronger nation.
>>76496396
>Gypsy just joined club
>Hasn't had the Bratwurst pill yet
>Hasn't had the rapefugee quota yet
You'll be the first ones to complain about ficki ficki and leaving when you get Merkel's Mandatory Muslims dumped in your country.
Now shut the fuck up you stinky Indian cunt.
A different Europe is possible, one that will reclaim the Old Imperial Borders.
Imagine forces from Provincia Britannia, Provincia Gallia and a new Provincia Germania fighting to reclaim Provincia Africa and Provincia Aegyptus from the Saracen hordes.
Don't get me wrong, I hate the liberal EU.
But a Europe united on the policy of blood and land is unstoppable.
There is a chance that Cameron will stick to his word and stay on after a leave vote. If he does, expect a deal that is in some respects worse than full EU membership. That's my only fear, that if we vote leave that pigfucker will find a way to fuck it up somehow, such is his shitness when conducting negotiations with europe.
Anyone who votes to remain deserves a tyrannical government
>>76496833
Your neighbor Rajeep is making 200k/year for doing some basic calculus and writing few lines of code everyday
>>76496538
You are joking right? The UK provides almost 13% of the EU's entire budget and the EU plans to raise contributions by 10% to pay for the refugee crisis.
If the UK stays in the EU, it's going to be poor like the rest of us.
Italy, Sweden, Netherlands are confirmed for planning to leave if the UK goes, so on with it lads.
>>76498298
shared it to my friends who are adamant out voters.
I love it when pol create their own OC
>>76498725
Ave Roma
>>76498725
ok, but don't allow it to be phaggot ridden 52-sexes Reich IV
>>76498018
Aside from currency devaluation which is currently experiencing a speculative dump as we speak, there will be little change to trade deals with countries. We import more (gross) than we export from the EU, and they won't want to do anything that potentially means our tariffs will go up. I think this is one of the most overlooked things at present - tariffs aren't a one way thing, many medium size manufacturers stand to lose upwards of 10-15% of their revenue stream should the UK decide to play rough. But the tariffs won't even matter on any level thanks to the probably short/mid-term currency devaluation that we will experience during the period of uncertainty. This, of course, assumes that politicians have economic advisers that understand this and don't enter into the most ridiculously stupid trade deals ever. I'd like to think that wouldn't happen with the number of advisers the government has at its disposal. You should also consider the fact that the EU has cut off many of our overseas trade opportunities and tied us into EU-friendly bullshit that has, in the worst cases, been losing us money. All that will go.
>>76495137
You have to be inside the EU to truly wreck the EU.
Why do you think we joined in the first place?
>>76496928
You have deficiency of engineers, MD's and IT specialists for years now, Germany.
Wasn't that the whole point of "doctors and rocket engineers" coming from Syria argument of frau Merkel?
>>76499392
Our government isn't interested in wrecking the EU. They're only interested in their lucrative EU jobs after they get kicked out of office here.
>>76499392
To pay 13% of the budget and take most of the brown people
>>76499392
We didn't join the EU, we joined a European common market. We were tricked by a bait and switch
>>76495137
>Dirty romanians
Kek
>>76499943
It wasn't a bait and switch at all. The facts were out there.
Powell warned us. People decided to ignore the facts: That parliamentary sovereignty was at stake.
>>76496935
Poles work hard and fill up our church's, you can stay.
>>76495137
Its pretty pathetic to suggest there aren't benefits of staying in the eu, there clearly are quite a few benefits.
>tons of eu funding for research, medicine and universities
>easier to work abroad in Europe as some 5 million brits do
>easier to go on holiday in Europe
>sit at the table that directs a supereconomy
>subsidies, green plans and funding in manufacture
>some great deals for the finance sector
>already negotiated trade deals and wouldn't rely on our incompetent government to do so again.
>tariffs cut on certain European imports.
>eastern european/european labour at least more civilised and skilled than africans, indians etc
>europe going more right wing anyway so eu could become pretty good.
The list is consierably longer than the reasons to leave however its a vote on principle and thats clearly what the leave campaign is going for.
>>76500455
I think you meant to say prisons. See Hull polish community for reference.
>>76500938
>>easier to work abroad in Europe as some 5 million brits do
>>easier to go on holiday in Europe
Because these are going to be a desirable options after arab immigration turns europe into a shit hole.
>>76495137
>muh economic sanctions
That's literally it. The only downsides to leaving the EU are that the EU will punish us for leaving. Divorce this from the political context, move it to a domestic setting, and what you have is an abusive partnership.
It really triggered me last night when Farage missed the chance to point this out. Some bitch was talking about the EU "punishing" us and he decided to start talking about how it won't be that bad, instead of focusing on the key point that we don't have to put up with that shit in the first place.
>>76500938
you don't know if it will be easier to travel in Europe. That's nonsense. Also, to hope the EU will become more right wing is just laughable. They are a solidly Marxist group that won't even allow far right leaders, as they have recently said.
>>76496878
that was keks evil twin brother
>>76501348
>that won't even allow far right leaders
And lets point out that what they are deeming far right isn't even barely right of center.
>>76497305
/thread
>>76495137
Your country isn't going to be run by a criminal or hate creator
>>76495137
If you leave, France and Germany will fuck the City up for good, the same way they sided along the US of A with you to rob us from our banking secrecy.
If you leave, you will regret it.
>>76501348
>>76501430
Then the EU will most likely collapse in any case. Its also not 'nonsense' it will be harder to travel in Europe at some level. Not gamechanging and there'll probably be quite an extended time on a british passport since europe relies on British tourism but a working and living visa in europe will be harder to obtain.
>>76495137
Hey from USA, and good people think u should stay! If not WWIII and your economic destruction. Muh president says.
BTW do you guys have any oil? J/w..
>>76500938
>you are paying for that funding in the first place
>so? why do you need to relinquish government control to be able to work abroad?
>so? why do you need to relinquish government control to be able to go on holiday abroad?
>sit at the table and watch as it makes decisions about YOUR MONEY without being able to input anything
>again, it's already your money but now the EU is giving you money they took from you
>woop di fucking do, corporations benefit from the EU in some vague manner
>trade deals on the table now suck
>so? why do you need to relinquish government control to be able to have a tariff free zone?
>but the EU is bringing in Africans, Indians and anyone not white to replace you
>good, by leaving the EU
You still haven't explained shit. Give me one good argument to stay in the EU instead of this stupid one liners based on absolutely fucking nothing.
>>76499077
It's almost like Italy wants the free Britmoney to try and not go bankrupt.
>>76495976
Show pics dude.
>>76501317
The WTO has already said that the EU will not be permitted to 'punish' us. They won't be able to tax us any more than they do anyone else.
>>76500938
Because you really think that other European countries; especially those with a large tourism sector; will turn away British tourists?
Lol. Fun fasct: The British Passport is one of the most accepted globally. Not one European country would not allow access to Brits; except maybe a very very angry Germany because we've foiled their attempts to European domination for the 3rd time in a row.
>>76501317
It's in the EU charter that they cannot 'punish' nations for leaving or not joining. They have to play nice with countries like Switzerland, and they'll have to play nice with us.
And if they don't; that will just make even more countries see the reality of Germany's goals and jump out after us.
>>76495137
V O T E
L E A V E
>>76500938
Eu is a totalitarian state, no "benefits" are worth that
>>76495137
>Give me one good reason to stay in the EU
Not an argument.
>>76501767
>Actually a lot of that funding is direct from european institutions and banks and Britiain isn't 'paying for it' because what we pay in doesn't go directly into funding and we wouldn't use that money for funding if we pulled out, it'd go on propping up the NHS and welfare rather than actual progress in science.
>Low skilled workforce works both ways and getting into a country like Sweden isn't easy (degree, work experience etc needed) so we can expect it to be equally as difficult for germany and france.
>Cheaper holidays and air fares
>the eu votes for the majority, Britain has a say proportionate to its significance but you can't expect all of europe to share british interests which are often ignorant of the rest of europe or unique. We still have a major say in the eu on military and financial matters.
>Again, no its not our money and that money wouldn't go into those outlets if we left.
>corporations benefit meaning jobs for british workers, tax for the government, do you understand basic principles of the economy?
>citation needed, they are pretty good in my book look at the american-chinese deal and the eu-chinese deal, ours is better.
>Becasue its an arrangement that couldn't happen outside of the eu and benefits Britain disproportionately.
>the EU is doing no more or less with migration than our government so why do we expect border controls to tighten outside of the EU when we couldn't even control the borders that matter in Greece, Turkey, Italy, Spain etc?
>leaving the eu wouldn't make it collapse it will just become less challenged and will move forward with the political union of europe.
These are only a fraction of teh reasons to remain as well.
>>76497305
Yep, can't argue with that.
>>76495137
VOTE LEAVE YOU DUMB FAGGOT
Pharmaceuticals. As said yesterday by a guy, the EMEA, the European medical regulatory agency comparable with the US FDA, is headquartered in the UK and allows for drugs and medical decices to be approved centrally for all of the EU. This has assures that new drugs and medical devices are equally introduced in the EU and the US often in parallel or with a priority in the EU.
30 years ago European countries were lacking behind the US in this regard and had to essentially wait several more years for drugs or had to not get them at all.
refugees, EU is fashionable, EU is good for all of us
fuck off brexit rednecks
>>76495137
nice meme tea boy
>>76498018
>You will absolutely get fucked short term economically.
Just turn into tax heaven and kick out burgers and Brussel's cucks sniffing out money laundering in UK. Britbongs will swim in money. Who does need industry in 2016 ffs?
>>76496479
I have a sinking feeling that it's going to be rigged.
>>76500938
>tons of eu funding for research, medicine and universities
and where does the EU get that money from?
That's right (you).
>>76502511
We can still use the European standard of medicine; nothing to say we can't just literally mimic it and call it the new British standard so we can still trade and be within the standards that are currently set. The global health organisation wouldn't allow them to just not send any medication to Britain.
I do wish Mr. Farage didn't mention alternative medicine though.
>>76500938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKEUT1TiLU
http://www.economistsforbrexit.co.uk/
>>76502484
The EU cannot exist without the UK's financial backing. It's as simple as that. The EU already has a high deficit in spending, with 13% of the budget leaving, they would have to do at least one of the following
>tax member countries a lot more, resulting in more leaving
>print a lot of extra money, destroying the euro as a currency
>borrow money from other parts of the world, increasing debt and consequently the interest paid on that debt
You still haven't given one good reason why the UK, not a single individual, would be better off in the EU.
>>76502913
'Alternative medicine' isn't just sugar pills, hypnotism and homoeopathy anon. It also includes any treatment that isn't officially recognised by boards for medical standards (ie. any treatment newer than ~18 months) and things like e-cigarettes and natural remedies (chew mint leaves for a stomach ache? 'Alternative medicine').
>>76502511
Again, why does that mean we need a centralized EU government?
>>76503145
>still haven't given one good reason
I've given plenty, spelt it out twice and don't feel compelled to do so again for the sake of your retarded self.
>>76502913
That is correct, Britain could just adopt all acts of EMEA. But I highly doubt it would. Just like Switzerland or Russia or Turkey, the politicians will build up a new British regulatory authority with new British rules and regulations requiring pharma companies to apply separatelty in Britain and spend a lot of more money to access the British market. This will have an impact on the availability of new drugs and devices.
>>76503145
What financial backing? Germany pays 400 percent more than the UK into the EU net. The EU cannot work without Germany, it can work without the UK.
>>76495137
Hers one: don't. Be your own fucking nation like you used to be
>>76503320
In a time when the coffers have been emptied to care for migrants? Maybe the EU can survive in the long run but short-term taking a hit of more than 10% of income is going to put the strain on.
>>76503187
Alternative medicine is a broad range of things, but typically it is used as a term to describe substances and procedures which are specifically opposed by doctors and researchers and dismissed as not helpful.
If there were evidence that an alternarive medicine worked well for an illness, it would be classified as "medicine".
>>76503236
You haven't given shit. You spouted one liners without any evidence. Hell, a lot of them are so vague you can't even look up your "claims". If you don't even know how to form an argument, get the fuck off the debate board.
>>76503236
Emotional appeals and demands of minorities are not real reasons, senpai. Sounds like Leave is the way to go for the majority.
>>76503197
In many areas a centralized authority provides benefits. Introducing new drugs and devices EU wide instead in 28 countries with 28 approval processes is a good thing.
Allowing a company to raise money across the EU based on the same legal standards is good.
Allowing a bank or insurance company to approach clients across the EU is good.
Providing a level playing field for telecoms across the EU is good.
Certain centralizations make sense, others (free movement of people or agriculture subsidies) should be handled on a state level.
>>76496735
He meant 75% of the world that matters.
>>76503430
It is not 10 percent net.
Anyway, the only thing that happens is that the Southern and Eastern European countries get less gibmees agricultural sibsidies and road constructions subsidies.
>>76503320
The EU top hinted at needing a LOT more money to deal with the "new europeans" situation.
They need
>housing
>education - training, language, who to hate
>integration courses
>mosques
All in all, each refugee costs about 35000 euro a head. This of course, will be paid for by member states. A lot of these people are in camps now, which is a short term solution.
13% of the entire EU budget leaving would effectively end the EU.
>>76501384
Kuk?
>>76500938
>>tons of eu funding for research, medicine and universities
EU funding that is also contributed to and received by a number of coutries that are not in the EU, including Iceland, Norway, Israel and Canada. Being a member is not a prerequisite for participation in international research projects.
>>easier to work abroad in Europe as some 5 million brits do
5 million Brits do not work abroad in Europe. 5 million Brits have jobs that involve travelling to Europe. The figure for Brits living and working in Europe full time is lower than 3 million and that INCLUDES retirees who are living there but not working.
>>easier to go on holiday in Europe
Compared to what exactly. Filling out a form on the plane as you're about to land? Tourist visas are not like work or residency visas, they do not take months of paperwork, a lawyer or bureaucratic approval unless you're a known criminal.
>>sit at the table that directs a supereconomy
>EU
>literally the only declining trade bloc in the world
>supereconomy
kek
>>subsidies, green plans and funding in manufacture
Subsidies we pay more in to than we get back and that in return have crippled our fishing and agricutural (particularly dairy) sectors. You do not need a supranational government to make 'green plans', in fact it make things worse as nobody ever agrees on anything. Anyone who believes UK manufacturing is benefitted by EU membership is delusional.
>>some great deals for the finance sector
Yeah, great deals that mean they're only to 'some' crippling foreign legislation and not all of it. Outside the EU it'd be crippled by none of it, and our financial services sector are so globally respected we'd likely end up setting the rules for Europe post-Brexit rather than having to follow theirs.
1/2
>>76503256
Britain has a monopoly over pharma industry though, it's why TTIP is so desperate to shill for us to be in the EU.
The NHS is largest purchaser of drugs in the world, being the largest purchaser it can negotiate lower prices for medicines because it has that monopoly and that power.
TTIP would see that come to an end by suing our government because pharma can't sell Cipro or Tramadol at a ridiculous price.
Tell your friends that want to stay in the EU and think the EU will protect the NHS that one.
HAH!
>>76503678
Britain doesn't constitute 13% of the EU budget and the EU would still benefit from British financing for 2-5 years even if we voted leave at which point the current situation will be irrelevant. Britain isn't going to leave the EU in any case, so continue to holler like some nigger on /pol/ with bullshit claims but its really only a projection of your own ignorance and how out of touch you are as a retarded neet in your own times.
>>76504073
The EU is already asking for more money from us you retarded, arrogant little cunt, now apologise to the Nederbro
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/04/britain-asked-for-more-cash-as-migrant-crisis-strains-eu-budget/
>>76503678
Apologies for the Euroshill that's being rude to you, treat him like you treat trash. Bin it.
>>76500938
>>76503925
>>already negotiated trade deals and wouldn't rely on our incompetent government to do so again.
Fucking hell how dumb are you. We live in a globalised economy. YOU DO NOT NEED FORMAL TRADE DEALS TO DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, they can simply be used to reduce the already small standard tariff that applies under WTO rules. We'd have an easier time making trade deals than the EU does anyway simply because we'd be negotiating on behalf of the British economy - one of the strongest in the world - and trade partners would know what they're getting rather than having to be more cautious to mitigate the risks posed by having shit post-communist economies included in the deal that could go full retard at any moment.
>>tariffs cut on certain European imports
Yeah, and tariffs jacked up on everything else because lol fuck making Italian tomato farmers and German car manufacturers compete with the Australians, Americans and Japanese right? Who'd want cheaper products of equivalent or better quality when you can instead send more subsidies to the continent?
>>eastern european/european labour at least more civilised and skilled than africans, indians etc
Utterly untrue and very very racist of you to claim so anon :^)
>>europe going more right wing anyway so eu could become pretty good
This is just bollocks, firstly because what the EU is doing does not absolve it for being an undemocratic, nepotistic, bureaucratic, oligarchic hive of unelectable despots, rent seekers and lobbyists. Regardless, i) it's not 'becoming more right wing' it's becoming more authoritarian and ii) even if it was, there is literally nothing to stop it flip-flopping back the other way at any moment.
>>76504073
My apologies, you are completely right, I was exaggerating it in my head it seems. Here are the ACTUAL contributions per country from 2015, which can easily be publicly verified.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/
I'm sure the UK leaving just when the EU needs to increase their entire spending budget by 10% will have no negative consequences.
>>76504458
>>76503925
You actually did just rek that cunt, although I suspect it was a troll.
But bravo, well done lad.
>>76495137
You dont really still think you can escape us?
>>76504528
I figured even if he was baiting it wasn't a waste of time since some anons might actually have believed some of his bullshit
>>76503984
ROFL at this old guy, he wants to jack off too much ! xDDDDDD
>>76495137
I can't because thier is no reason lets crash this plane with no survivors
>>76504458
>europe going more right wing anyway so eu could become pretty good
HAHAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>76504619
It's pretty much confirmed for a troll after I read that line, holy fuck balls.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/24/eu-vows-use-new-powers-block-elected-far-right-populists-power/
You gotta love it though.
>>76504220
wow an aggressive response from a eurosceptic with no convincing argument put forward.
The fact Ic gave is that the Britain doesn't constitute 13% of the budget legally, as for the migrant crisis I think that falls into a different category seeign as its a GLOBAL criss. It involves the US, Russia and all of the EU and powers like Poland, Hungary and Turkey are uncooperative and exacerbate the problem. Britain actually has paid very little into the migrant situation as it stands compared to even Turkey so kindly fuck off.
Nederbro is a blinkered clown and adequately reflects his countries own diminutive hold in the modern world.
>>76495137
You will be handing enormous opportunity to Ireland as the only English speaking low tax regime in the EU.
You dont actually want to be nice to Ireland do you?
>>76496755
Any proof on that m8
>>76504776
Germany and France have promised to go into direct competition with London using EU funding. Not saying it will work but they have made the threat.
>>76504715
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just stop troll, you've been blown the fuck out already, you've had facts posted at you which you don't want to even dare touch.
Troll. I give you 5/10 actually 6/10 because you might actually believe the shit you type.
Now fuck off.
>>76504850
Have a drink on referendum night for me, you'll feel like shit when we vote remain by some margin but do it anyway.
>sunny day
>take afternoon stroll with dog
>say good afternoon to everyone
>think about freedom
>come home and have a jam sandwich
I FUCKING LOVE BEING ENGLISH
>>76504988
>Halal jam
>>76504818
They can threat all they want, they dropped their poker face when it was announced HSBC would be setting up an office in France (only bank to do so) because the EU begged for an issuer of Eurobond.
They can do as they like and say as they like, a load of them said it'd be bad bad bad banks would leave, doom would arrive, Germany would nuke the world if we didn't adopt the Euro.
Leave finance to the kikes in London, they know more about it than the smelly German or French do, been doing it longer as well.
>>76504964
I don't care what the vote is, your trolling is too funny.
>>76504818
Agressive threats such as these is another reason to leave as its made clear that countries and EU institutions do not respect the democratic will of the British people.
>tons of eu funding for research, medicine and universities
UK is the no.2 (in some fields no.1) hub for pharma/chem research and manufacture, and countless other scientific fields
>easier to work abroad in Europe as some 5 million brits do
And as some 50 million don't
>easier to go on holiday in Europe
You mean not having to get one piece of paper
>sit at the table that directs a supereconomy
That is crashing and burning and was propped up largely by us (hence why they are shitting themselves about us leaving)
>subsidies, green plans and funding in manufacture
net loss is £9.1 (gross £13.7)
>some great deals for the finance sector
Financial services would prefer an open East Asian market to EU market
>already negotiated trade deals and wouldn't rely on our incompetent government to do so again.
It's in the interest of EU countries to please us as we import a great share of their shit
>tariffs cut on certain European imports.
Exchange rate will be lower from exit meaning tariffs will be meaningless in the short/mid term. Factoring for the long term will have a buffer of years for all businesses
>eastern european/european labour at least more civilised and skilled than africans, indians etc
And even more civilized is none of those.
>europe going more right wing anyway so eu could become pretty good.
Yeah, no.
>>76505056
>HaramaJam.
>>76505064
>>76505062
Not claiming it will work. Their plan is to undermine your position outside Europe by diminishing your share of the market.
Frankfurt is their pick to be the rival. They dont have to take over. They just have to make your life harder.
>>76495137
Are some brits on this board unironically wanting to stay seriously?? Just start chuggin the bleach m8
I feel like this entire board is satire
>>76504715
>Britain contributes slightly under 13% of the total EU budget
>When it only has 8.5% of representation in the European Parliament, the lowest per capita representation of any member state
>When it has 3.5% of representation on the European Council (the same as every other member state, more than half of whom have a net NEGATIVE contribution)
>When it has been completely ignored in every single instance in which it has objected to the consensus
Don't worry I'll sit here and wait while you make up a way to justify that
>>76503320
>muh 400%
I'll be too busy watching ID4 2 over and over on the cinema to make the vote.
Sorry lads, you'll have to get us out without me. Some things are more important.
>>76505173
The EU doesn't have to undermine the position of Britain outside the EU, as it stands its considerably reduced in any case, and whilst some economists say the EU wants the agreement, 2 years of uncertainty is more than enough to have british politicians scrambling for a deal that could be worked greatly in the EU's favour.
>>76505459
ID4 2 comes out the day after the vote m8
>>76505352
Right? Didn't Cameron go in to negotiate "a better deal" only to come back like a beaten dog?
>>76505563
I just walked past a bus, swear it said the 23rd.
>>76505496
In those two years we could sign up more trade deals than the EU. It all depends really on the government that's in charge.
The EU? We are the third biggest importer of German goods, we hold the monopoly as Germany artificially deflates the Euro to boost its export market, that alone shows how vulnerable Germany is to being fucked over and sweetheart, the politicians in Brussels will not dictate to the businesses, the golden rule applies to all nations, except communist ones. They will suffer, their businesses will be angry at not being able to export as much stuff as they do to the UK, so stop with that game ok? Okay.
>>76505173
A protectionist system vs a free trade system. That sure won't backfire on the EU.
Remember, it will be the PIIGS that have to clean up German and French mess when their plan to fuck us over ultimately fails, which it will. Screencap, if we leave whatever you want.
I'm done caring about EU threats, it's all they can do. Threat.
>>76505459
>not wanting your own government again
Do you like having foreign overlords? Voting leave takes 10 minutes of your day and will bring prosperity and joy to your populace for generations to come
>>76505563
>>76505656
Aye, just checked local cinema, opens the 23rd.
>>76503004
wow given every chance to put down a comprehensive argument and fails, and then fails again to explain how a unilateral free trade would hold up in trade deals with a protectionist economy in europe despite them being our biggest trade partner.
>>76505803
You just destroyed your own argument with your own sentence.
>A unilateral free trade with countries outside the EU
vs
>A closed, declining protectionist economy that is the EU that takes years to get trade deals because it has 28 member states that it has to negotiate on the behalf of
You're not the shiniest apple on the tree are you? Very much a troll troll.
U TROLL TROLL! I TROLL YEW TWO!
>>76501767
Trade hurdles and taxes.
Saving the City 's high paying jobs.
You are to follow EU regulations anyway, but this time without a saying.
You are to pay for the EU fu ndi g if you esnt to access the EU single market without Extra taxes.
>>76505600
Cameron had already decided he was going to campaign for IN before he even started that negotiation. He'd been liaising with big business interests for weeks trying to consolidate support for his 'new deal' before it actually existed.
He went looking for peanuts - something to put on a poster maybe - and came back with even less. In fact, he may even have given away our right to block financial legislation, we're not really sure yet because there hasn't been any kind of official documentation drawn up.
>>76501670
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>>76505803
>painstakingly responds to every reply EXCEPT the ones where he gets btfo
like pottery
>>76502376
>Not punish Switzerland....
This is why we have 26% foreign residents....
And have to accept EU bullshit not even blinking?
You don t know what it cost us to remain outside
>>76505972
Cameron's a piece of slimy, lying scum we all know this.
Fucker needs to be executed for treason, along with Blair.
I just registered to vote lads. Cameron has told those that couldn't register last night to continue registering today.
Do you think I'll be able to vote on polling day?
>>76506204
I'll make sure to reply to your post then.
>>76506223
Let the EU punish us, they can try.
The biggest reason for leaving is immigration and God help any government that doesn't get that shit under control if we leave, God help them because no other fucker will.
As for Switzerland, you've taken a dicking by a protectionist racket, that's all this club is. A little club that thinks it's good. It's not good, never has been and never will be.
The sooner it shows everyone its true colours, even if it means getting hit with financial sanctions, the better because it will be an eye opener and don't think they won't suffer in retaliation because if we go to hell, we're dragging German and the cowardly cucks in France with us, all the fucking way.
>>76506414
You've done enough trolling for today, all that fasting making you excitable? Go buy some fireworks and a hamster and practice your ALLAHU ACKBAR jihad you stinky paki.
Remind people you know that the EU wants to let even more migrants in, this time by importing them directly from select African countries:
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article156011360/Das-ist-Europas-neuer-Masterplan-in-der-Fluechtlingskrise.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36469264
>>76506504
where we breaking ramadan this year tariq?
>>76506427
>mfw people don't realise tariffs and sanctions go both ways
>>76506599
In hell Abdullah, I'll see you there and I'll be sure to bring my strap on for Allah.
>>76506638
Germans and French are setting it up again to get another spanking, it's like they enjoy being spanked. Some sort of weird German BDSM fetish of some kind.
I don't know, but they will be fucked over, that's a given.
>>76506233
TRUUTH
REMINDER that if fucking idiots like Farage hadn't pushed for a referendum Britains position in negotiation of EU laws would have been much stronger. Now we are completely marginalised if we stay and have to accept literally any deal/laws/policies from the EU and if we leave we'll be forced to accept punitive agreements and become the laughing stock of the global economy. We are totally fucked and history will remember Farage as the deathstroke.
>>76506904
GOOD.
>>76495137
the race issue is the only reason to leave and is the only factor posters here care about. any other argument is secondary and is put up for debate to make it seem like it's not a race thing
>>76507000
Eurosceptics everyone, deluded cunts whose own existence is worthless and who hold a yardstick up to productive minorities and act like their opinion reflects public sentiment when in fact they are heeded less than a child's tantrum. Grow up and embrace the reality that Britain will vote remain on 23rd for pragmatic and not idealistic and childish reasons.
>>76507126
>flag
>>76495137
>running away from your problems
>being a coward
>not fixing your problems
that's nigger behavior, you must stay and retake your lands!
You must:
start a uprising, kill the fuckers, rebuild your glorious home, get revenge.
>>76495137
Your glorious Farage thinks alternative medicine is a thing.
>>76506427
They will.
Mid class and upper mid class are going to feel the heat.
Lower is going berserk when they are going to get dicked hard.
Tbe real problem here is that those pn the continent that have the more to lose are not the one weigthing the most
Within the Eurozone
I.e. spain >>76506427
belgium netherland are on the losibg end.
France Luxemburg Austria and Germany
Ouside ez pnly losers poland and danemark
on the winning end if brexit happens.
You see the problem?
Fr amd D willrule over the continent in no time. Which is the worst for you.
>>76507290
You have ignored every single argument that has blown you the fuck out, you ignore them.
Why waste any more time on you when you have no intention of engaging in debate or refuting the points made in previous posts?
I'm giving you a taste of your own medicine, swallow it all down like a good boy, just like daddy does.
>>76507126
Didn't realise Canadians were quite so out of touch. Race has got NOTHING to do with the referendum, the EU doesn't enforce a quota of african and asians into the UK, that was down to the policies of the Labour and now Tory government and the failure to implement a decent borders control (no country in the world has total border control). It won't change if we leave the EU, we just won't be able to put money and momentum behind a movement towards enforcing a mediterranean wide approach and resettlement of immigrants. People in the UK are mostly pretty happy with eastern and other european migrants because they nearly always work, pay rents, don't rely only on welfare and are friendly and not opposed to our ideals like muslims can be.
>>76495137
The top figures within the leave camp are all Thatcherite neoliberals. The only positive economic forecast (open Europe) for leaving depends on maintaining current immigration levels. The current diplomats and negotiators from UK are absolutely useless (as shown by Cameron) and will get slaughtered when trying to hammer out a good deal.
I wonder if it's a problem with my political thought process that arguments from both sides do little to change my view, but every time someone on Facebook says that Brexit is A VOTE FOR TRUMP, TRUMP WILL BE PROUD, RACIST TRUMP RACIST HAHA
When I hear that I just simply have to vote for it. I don't much like being insulted in such a juvenile manner.
>>76507602
Sweetheart when you start addressing the points made to you, when you start refuting them. Then maybe you can have a right to post.
Until then bitch tits? You refrain from posting. You have no rights.
>>76505459
If you're actually being serious, then you shouldn't be wasting your time on /pol/. You could be picking your toes and watching BBC3.
>>76507361
Farage is a fucking idiot and couldn't win his own FUCKING constituency.
>>76506427
they can and will punish us and immigration will get worse. There's the facts you have to contend with.
>>76505091
Uk is good for research BECAUSE OF EU FUNDING. The government puts jack shit into it ask literally any university staff/phd student. And of those 50 million some 10 million work in European companies.Not having to get a piece of paper and cheaper airfares yes. EU isn't crashing and burning sorry to burst your bubble. that net loss is the same for the US only instead of surviving the industries over there are relocating and the US loses jobs. British Financial services don't have access to the East Asian market and that market is crashing if you open your fucking eyes. Its in the interest of the EU to make an indepedent Britain non-viable and thats what will happen, especially given our current government which will be weakened if we vote leave and less able to handle the resulting political crisis. Right all I'm seeing with losing tariffs is a one sided trade partnership rather than a two sided one in which our interests are maintained. Eastern europeans are reasonably law abiding, work well in our economy and aren't terrorists. As for the final point thats down for debate but its likely the EU will be forced to admit right wing interests and in fact Merkel herself is already heading in that direction with immigration.
Disregard any economy argument. They used to say the Euro was going to be good for the economy too. They don't know wtf they are talking about.
>>76509323
Sweden must be the worst case for vote leave imaginable. Economists for brexit are desperate to avoid comparisons and your toxic immigration policies show how much worse it could be out of the EU. Fuck if more of the UK was aware of how cucked sweden is we'd vote remain by a landslide.
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>>76508862
You seem disgruntled.
This pleases me.
>>76508862
>Farage is a fucking idiot and couldn't win his own FUCKING constituency.
Being examined for fraud right now.
>Uk is good for research BECAUSE OF EU FUNDING.
Where does that EU funding come from? It's literally our own money. Kill yourself.
