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Why aren't millennials having children?
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Why aren't millennials having children?
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>>76440728

Because millennials are eternal children.
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>>76440728
Cant afford it
Women won't raise them
Contraception and abortion are widely available and socially acceptable
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First, try to find a girl or woman that is less spoilt than you yourself are and who is willing to sacrifice her education and youth to be a mother. Next, get a job that pays the rent, electricity, food, taxes, additional taxes for the sandpeople we keep importing and of course the brats education in a private school(public ones are full of aforementioned sandpeople). Third, when you are done, get laughed at from your "friends" who chose to not have children and live an alltogether better life than you are. Does this sound like a good deal to you?
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>>76440728
jew media encouraged them to become hedonists or SJWs
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>>76441745
What does hedonism have to do with not having children?
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>>76441846
It doesn't bring a fast immediate dose of pleasure.
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>>76440728

Why is my facebook full of millenials with children?
Like every broad I knew in highschool has a couple kids.
Most dudes I know have a couple kids, married.

I'm the outlier.
My excuse? I won't be around long enough to provide a fruitful experience of 2 parent upbringing.
My family history dictates that and I realize there is an end to my tree.
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>>76442036
Why not?
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>>76441846
hedonism and parenting are incompatible. do you think charlie sheen makes a good father?
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>>76442124
I'm honestly not sure what you want to hear.
Why would you have children if you are hedonistic?
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>>76442110

Are you really going to die young? Better get out of /pol/ and start smoking crack and getting a lot of debt my friend.
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I would leave my job to raise and homeschool beautiful tall sons and daughters. But no men my age want a family.. Or make enough to support one.
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>>76442110

My genetics are utter garbage. I've been blessed to turn out as good as I did, but my mental problems stop me from utilizing my full potential.

I won't go into it, but yeah, my family, especially in the last three generations, has so much fucking things wrong with our genetics on both sides. It's best if I don't reproduce. How are your genetics fucked up?
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>>76440728

>expecting people to have children in a feminist environment
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>>76442110
I'm 27 and almost everyone I know has at least one child.
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>>76442368

There are no women on /pol/. Stop giving us false hope.
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they are quite literally brainwashed against it, in countless subtle ways

I remember in class having to work out how "expensive" it was to have even a single child - that sure taught me something!

our leaders in politics and media have decided to depopulate the west through reduced birthrates and abortions, and they've used all their power to push this agenda; it's as simple as that
they call it "social engineering"
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>putting more people in this shithole
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"strong" women, beta men.
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>>76442256
>>76442340
Spotted the shitty parents
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Why don't you have a gf?
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Women suck and rather work dead end jobs then being a housewife. They are completely brainwashed when it comes to this and i refuse to have a child with a crazy person and i connecting i refuse to sign my life over to said person
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Because they have been indoctrinated with cultural Marxist propaganda telling them it is okay to be a degenerate. Restoring traditional family values would increase the birth rate.

Mandatory viewing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaRRB3OUTW8
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>>76442462
I love it how they always include college into something like that as if it's a mandatory part of life that your parents are just expected to pay for.
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>>76441071

This and by God, look at that picture! Who wants to deal with that shit so you raise them to function in this fucked up world!
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>>76440728
>Why aren't millennials having children?
Not a millenial, got born in 1990, but I will not be having children, why would I create another human being to live in this horrible shithole of a country? That would be utterly irresponsible.
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legalisation of contraception and the pushing of women out of the home and into the market killed western civilisation

all so the elite can manufacture their world state Second Tower of Babel that God is 100% guaranteed to demolish, and I bet most of them even know it
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>>76442773
>Second Tower of Babel that God
Neo Atlantis already built it and it was destroyed by the Nautilus
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>>76442256
Hedonism is about pleasure, not necessarily immediate pleasure. So for example, doing the work you most enjoy as opposed to what you are best at is still hedonism. Hedonism =/= degeneracy
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Most baby boomers I know didn't have children until their 30's, the only exception being poor people
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>>76440728
Because the sexes are having trouble getting along with each other, and millennials are broke.
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>>76440728
Millennial here. Got 4 kids
but...not with a white girl
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>>76440728
no wife
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>>76440728
Because they are children.

Peter-Pan syndrome is fucking rampant, m8
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As a parent you should have 1 goal, give your kid a better life than you had.

I cannot do that.
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>>76440728
Because I'm young and I'm not going to waste my life on a whiny brat (your pic proves my point).

Maybe when I'm in my early thirties I'll start.
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why would anyone force a kid who doesn't need to exist to live through this current shitty era
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>>76440728
Why do millenials keep making threads asking other millenials about millenials?
Reminder that if you are under the age of 36, you are a millenial or too young to be here.
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>>76443065
/lgbt/ wants to take the T out. Weird to think, huh...
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>>76443645
vocal minority
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No jobs, no future, no desire. Of course, I know you don't need a lot of money to raise kids, especially if you have like grandparents and cousins and stuff, and I have the desire, and I know enough people who do. But I'm from a lower class family, I have different ideas on how things should be from a lot of people.
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>>76442110
>My family history dictates that and I realize there is an end to my tree.
Be sure to go out in a grand fashion m8.
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>>76441071
FPBP
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Because my slut ex girlfriend of three years left me and now I fuck ona holes and spend my money on cars
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>>76440728
Because they're too busy chopping off their penises for fake vaginas, wearing dresses, and demanding the rest of society call them women.
They'll die out soon, as their hormone ridden chimera's body will die out by the age of 40 at best.
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because governments are incentivizing them not to, and instead incentivizing third worlders to come here and have lots of them.
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>>76440728
In order from most to least pertinent and encompassing explanations:

1. It costs too much (birth of a child costs $10,000 in medical bills alone, only gets far worse from here)

2. Feminist/Modern Ideology: Covenants of marriage have been compromised so thoroughly that even marriage is (rightfully) dismissed by young men

3. Selfishness, primarily in the form of the Device Paradigm

4. Implicit Population Control: people growing up are aware of the impact of humanity on the Earth and see no reason to add another shithead to the total, and it is a well-documented phenomena that developed countries see stagnant birth rates the further they technologically progress
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>>76440728
because humanity should end
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no girl will ever love me
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>>76440728
I can't afford them you idiot. And I'm in a seven year relationship, so we're in our prime to be parents. Shit sucks but I'm not gonna be a welfare nigger
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>>76440728
*And never will if Zika shows up. Anyone cooked up a Zika-chan yet?
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>>76444204
Iktf bro
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>>76440728
Because they can't afford them.

First you drown them in debt just to get proper education, then you drown them in to even more debt with ludicrous housing prices and rents. Then you remove or water down all the social security benefits that the boomers and generation x got to enjoy and move most jobs overseas and expect all these people to suddenly find work in highly competitive environment filled by migrants who are willing to work for food or start a company and get even more debt just to get fucked over by publishers, multinational corporations or the goverment.

Shits fucking ridiculous.
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>>76440728
I want too, believe me. I want a house with at least two kids, two dogs, lots of land, and a wife that loves me. I want to take my kids hunting and fishing and teach them how to be good people and do what's right and take my son to Boy Scouts and be a good father. Unfortunately that's just a pipedream in this world.
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fuck me it's not that hard. I'm 23, engaged and at 28 my wife will stop working to raise our children. In the mean time, we earn and save as much as possible.

Just explain that it is it normal to want to sacrifice your youth and hours for a company which has nothing to do with you.
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The best thing to do for your children is not to have them. Those poor fuckers will be alive to see the day when whites become so small minority the nigger hordes will burn the world. I hate to say it but we have lost.
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Lower wages
Large amounts of debt
It would be hard enough to just get a house, nevermind marriage and children.
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>>76440728
i have ptsd, dissociative disorder, and my fiance is infertile. i don't want to bring kids into this world because i'm afraid i'll go nuts and abuse them
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>>76444619
You don't have to spend millions on a house. Move to a town, not a city. Find a decent job in a decent community and then find a nice girl. You will both work, gradually building your nest egg and share the joy of having children and working to provide for them. Finances actually get easier when you're in a couple (providing you teach your girl good lessons about building a life together brick by brick and the importance of teamwork), not harder
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>tfw live with ex and her husband of 4 children all under the age of 5

Am I selfish for not babysitting all of them for free?
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>live with ex and her husband of 4 children all under the age of 5

Am I selfish for not babysitting all of them for free?
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>>76442764
>1990
You're a millennial.
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>>76442976
You're confusing Epicurean hedonism with high time preference modern hedonism. If millennials were Epicureans, we wouldn't have a problem.
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>>76440728
>5'8"
>internet addict
>aspergers
>unemployable degree with no skills
>bad at dating

That's fucking why. Nevermind the fact that I can't even find work and have taken to doing mturk, surveys and other clickwork for chump change, just to feel like I'm contributing something and not wasting away, rotting in front of the screen. Which I do regardless.

There is zero chance I have to live a stable, secure life. It would be an act of cruelty for me to reproduce. So, living alone it is. At least I have muh free time.
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>>76440728
Im twenty five, stoned and watching nostalgia critic. And this is how I will live.
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>>76445117
Almost fell for this bait.
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Because a lot of men are beta cuckolds, and the rest of men are being pushed away by women because women no longer want to have families and instead either want to just fuck for a night or be strong, independent feminazis. The vast majority of women are so unbearable to the average man that just building your life around hobbies is more appealing than getting into a relationship that will likely end with women stealing everything you have.

This is why millenials don't want to have children. Women don't want to be mothers, men who grew up playing vidya or watching cartoons their entire lives end up being autists, betas, or cuckolds, and the rest of men don't want to put up with the average woman's bullshit and end up finding pleasure in the same hobbies that autists and betas enjoy.
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>>76440728
Hey I want children, 2 will be enough
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>>76444305
Burn them holocaust style.
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>>76440728
>Why aren't millennials having children?
Many/most moved to population sinks which now rely on Mexicans since liberals want to exterminate blacks.
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>>76441606
In my country the guys get depressed when they see their friends having a family and a wife and the can't
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im a manchild
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>>76444204
>>76444343
>tfw ywn have a family who love you
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>>76441071
Pretty much, I do some women in their 30's and they still don't have their shit together.
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Because I'm bipolar and have psoriasis. No woman will ever mother my child. I could adopt or just have a chick have my kid and then fuck off, but that's not what I want. I want a child or five of my own, with a stable, loving household, something I never got and will never be able to give someone else.
I'm planning to kill myself once I hit 35.
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We're over populated and it's becoming a huge problem! Huge problem.
People need to stop making kids like there's no tomorrow.
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>>76445589
>nostalgia critic
Literal shit-tier comedy. Who wants to listen to some shrill jackass in glasses scream at bad 80's cartoons?
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Low test and unable to handle an responsibility and want to live for themselves.
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Marriage is now shit tier, bachelor life never been better. They're also poor as fuck
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>>76446001
It's an international kind of feel
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>roll the dice over STDs from rampant modern sexual degeneracy
>roll the dice over getting half of your shit stolen (and maybe your kids, too) in court
>wanting to raise said children in an environment that will attempt to brainwash them every step of the way into thinking that multiculturalism is good and that there are 25 different genders to choose from, roll the dice even further for them to not end up a broken drug addict

A lot of things would have to be fixed for it to be appealing. A lot of the west continues to enable the vocal, mentally ill underminers of all we spent so long to set up. If you want the right people to reproduce, you will have to give them the proper incentive to do so. All they see now (if they aren't poverty stricken welfare monkeys who shit out kids regardless and let the government care for them) is needless hardship with no absolute pay-off and a bleak tomorrow set up by the sins of yesterday and today.
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>>76446719
The feel that was felt around the world.
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>>76440728
Everyone who is not white is having 3 kids +, everyone who comes close to white is having 1 kid, adopting african babies or raising their wives kids
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>>76441606
Seriously, its financially, societally, and romantically difficult to get kids. And this is even IF you want kids. If your sole goal in life is to live comfortably via endless hedonism then its gg from the start.
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>>76444546
yup, we have silently crossed the point of no return awhile ago. I just hope I am able to die and miss all this bs before it gets too bad.

the only that will stop it now is some massive war and you can look around and see how may are opposed to the draft to ever have that happen again.
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>>76440728

Because the government takes all of our money and give it to welfare fuck ups and their offspring.
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>>76444024
>4. Implicit Population Control: people growing up are aware of the impact of humanity on the Earth and see no reason to add another shithead to the total, and it is a well-documented phenomena that developed countries see stagnant birth rates the further they technologically progress

Kinda hilarious seeing as China just abolished their 1 child policy and like India has no intention on "cutting carbon emissions".

Looks like only white people are doing it.

Our "elites" are idiots.
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Are they not too young? How old are the oldest millennials?

I think it's smartest to wait until at least 30 to have kids. This girl I know has these parents who didn't have kids until they were almost 40, so they were able to build up a nice nest egg and now they travel around the world every chance they get. It makes my blood boil with jealousy sometimes, so that's why I decided to go to engineering school to replicate that life. Lots of kids my age seem to be focused on securing themselves in this economy before, rather than after, having children
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>>76440728
The boys don't want to be slaves to a system that hates them. Women don't have them because muh feminism.

The family unit has been destroyed completely. Constant jew bullshit propaganda from every angle in popular entertainment.

There's no escaping the jew cage they have us in. I do not want to bring children into this world which will most certainly be worse once I'm gone.
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>>76442368
If you dont make enough money to hire someone to homeschool your kids you arent smart enough to do it yourself.
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>>76448495
There will be no more "nest eggs". It's cheaper to hire 3 third worlders to do the same job you would do.

Welcome to the global economy. You will die alone.
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>>76442036
>It doesn't bring a fast immediate dose of pleasure.
That's not hedonism. Hedonism is about maximising net pleasure.

Still, I agree that having children does not work in a hedonistic approach to life.
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what's the point?
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>>76446920
Even hedonism is better with a cute wife that loves you. And nature will override your bloodthirsty desire to participate in a satanic ritual sacrifice. You will suprise yourselves, too.
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>>76450124
Suffering
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>>76441071
Luigi here gets it.
That and there has been a concerted effort to fuck over the coming generation since the boomers. In the scramble to collect as many resources for ourselves as possible, we see the next generation as a threat which must be hamstrung in order to maintain an advantage over.
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>>76440728

I will have kids when i am financially stable enough to have them.
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>>76452982
so.. never
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If the millennials are eternal children, wouldn't it be the fault of the generation before for not raising them properly?
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Well here's your choice as a guy

Have a kid. Mother will get fat and want sex less. Have less sleep if you have a kid. Social life gone. Money gone. Less sex. Most likely break up with mom by early 30's. Look worn out. Have a baby momma. Paychecks cut in half. Every girl you try to date "I have a kid but I barely spend time with" very unattractive unless the girl is fucked up in the head. You've aged badly, you are being slowly drained, you have. Baby momma who causes drama. You can't date hot 21-25 year olds easily.

Or
Don't have kid. Age well. Sleep
Well. Bang hot 21/25 year olds until you hit 40. Feel great can work out. No baggage. No shit bag kid. You are free. You might be a great dad someday is what women think.
Constant ass, money and health.

Now is a little shit factory who will be hassle for 8 years then cut for 5 then hate you for 5 years then go to college and drain you more worth it?

Your choice
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who fucking pays you to make these threads every day

fucking kill yourself
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>>76440728
we're extremely resentful toward are parents for having us.
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>>76440728
maybe it's because you keep making the same shitty thread every 20 minutes!
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>>76440728
concentrated effort to destroy the white middle class.
>encouraging faggotry
>no jobs
>no money
>constant assault of white personhood in papers and articles
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>>76440728
Because the world is gonna get a lot worse soon?
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I have four kids

Step it the fuck up, faggots.
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Cause unless i become rich i don t wanna live a shit life .
I want to enjoy my life as well, and kids cost a lot
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>>76440728
a family is basically an endorsement of the future. i don't endorse the future.
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>>76442764
>1990
That's a millenial. Google the phrase.
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I'm not having children because my wife is Asian and we don't want to birth a mongrel. If we want a kid down the line we'll adopt.

Also because it's fucking expensive, the country is overpopulated as shit, and for the time being we value the relative freedoms that we have left. Travel and spontaneity being the big ones.
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>>76444438
She's going to divorce you within 5 years and take half your possessions + alimony, and you still won't have children.

Remember this. Remember years from now that some piece of trash loser over the internet predicted your life.
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>>76440728
I'm 28 and hate being in the same generation as these faggots.
>Had a job at 16
>have always paid for my own shit
>Lived with my dad till 19 but paid rent
>saved money and bought a house

What the fuck happened to society
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>>76449034
I think it's still possible to be successful in the global economy. You just have to outperform the foreign hordes. I know in America, computer and mechanical engineering degrees are high in demand. So I'm going mechanical. I figure the best and brightest millennials will wait a while before they start having kids.
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>>76456085
>mechanical engineering
Enjoy graduating into a field that doesn't exist in like four years because everyone else had the same idea as you
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>>76455473
Read: it would be a little inconvient and not exactly cheap, therefor we made up an excuse.
>t. spoiled cuck

If you honestly consider having a child with your wife will be a "mongrel", get your dick out of her cunt.
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We were spoiled. Our parents wanted to raise us in a bubble not because they wanted us to have a good life but I am convinced it was a subconscious motivation to prevent us from ascending to a higher level than them.

And yes, I'm talking to you, the millenial. The majority of people here are millenials that were born in the middle class.
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Liberals tend to have less children than conservatives.
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Im hoping to have children simply because i know that my neet loser brother will never leave his room to get a job/wife and I want my parents to have grandchildren and be happy.
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>>76458142
>If you
*(plural)

>your wife
*each other

>your dick out of her cunt
*and her cunt off of your dick

>little inconvenient and not exactly cheap
*child would have a horrible life if we did it right now, but we have not ruled out the possibility down the line

t. social policeman
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>>76443050
I hope she was asian
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>>76440728
child support is costly. who wants to pay it?
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>>76440728
white women don't want to raise children and instead want to have careers
that is all

all the talk about jobs and economy is baloney. mudslimes will have 20 kids and live on welfare.

white people especially white women are beyond retarded

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2016/05/26/denmark-merkel-muslim-with-3-wives-and-20-kids-to-get-dkk-214000-in-child-benefits/
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>>76441071
Came here to post this.
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>>76440728
Because that picture you just posted gives me a headache
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Society stopped benefiting people who make children with absurd divorce laws and instead, want to flood the country with foreigners.
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>>76441846
Hedonism is about getting pleasure for yourself.

Parenting is about making sacrifices and commiting to make a better living for others (Your kids and possibly your wife)
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Millenials can't afford it.
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>>76440728
Millennials are poor.
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>>76459654


This. I'm a Millennial and just had a Daughter. I'm 29, girl is 28. If it was not for Medicaid we would be fucked right now.

Its literally impossible for people in our generation to have kids without welfare. And welfare is something we are taught to be humiliated about needed (unless you are a Nig Nog).

So white people are doing the "responsible" thing and not breeding.
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>>76455770
>i wuz born in le wrong jenuretion
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>>76455770
>>saved money and bought a house

Okay Mr. Rockefeller.
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I'm 30 and only ever had sex with prostitutes
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>>76443174
>As a parent you should have 1 goal, give your kid a better life than you had.
>I cannot do that.
>MFW parents had 5 kids, 4 houses (And soon a house in the beach), they afford their kids education without falling into "meme bank credit"
I'm 32 and barely can afford a new car by my own
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>>76458653
millennials are someone between the ages of 18-35 and I highly doubt 40+ people come here
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>>76455770

>What the fuck happened to society

We all fell for the College Meme, went 150k into debt on useless degrees. Even STEM degrees are useless now since everyone and their tarded cousin has a business or engineering degree.

Kids would have been better off getting a job collecting garbage when they turned 18. By the time they were 30 they could maybe buy a house.

Of course, none of these things allow for children. Which are incredibly expensive. The act of pregnancy and birth itself costs as much as a House if you tried to pay for it out of pocket.
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>>76442647
>That sugar filled drink.
>That animal fat dog.
>Bleached wheat flour.
Thank god we learned that shit was garbage.
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>>76458653
>I'm talking to you
>The majority of people here are millenials that were born in the middle class
>middle class
then you aren't talking to me
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>>76460424
>So white people are doing the "responsible" thing and not breeding.
White people should fuck like crazed bonobo monkies and siphon off all the money going to "those others" that are currently getting that.

Tit for tat, we would end up with "balance" between white folk and (everything else).
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>>76442409

Late reply but long story short, the Big C has been going down the generations quicker and quicker.
Gramps hit 80, uncle hit 60, moms at 58, only a matter of time for me.
Fathers side is worse with the beetus.

Bad roll I guess. Sucks having the rationality of knowing its not worth it.
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>>76461210
Okay. Half of that still applies to you. Next.
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>>76460981

Correct. What's your point?
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>>76440728
Old gay men are more straight than millennials my son.
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>>76461241

It would require a major cultural shift. Starting with viewing Medicaid not as a drain of society and the economy for the benefit of nig nogs and instead as a necessary investment for creating a new generation of citizens.

We've argued on /pol/ ad nauseum about "Government Healthcare" vs. "Private Healthcare". But the simple truth is that if you are a Conservative Millennial who believes in self sufficiency, you will NEVER have kids. You can't even afford to pay for the birth.
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I don't need kids, I've raised six generations of bunny rabbits, and will continue to do so before the unlikely event in which the entire flock is decimated by a rabid fox.
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My reason is that I'm irresponsible as fuck and I don't want to raise a child if I don't think I can provide for it.

But I see people that are horrible trying to raise little bastards all the time.

Everyone that knows me tells me I need a few and say that I'm the kind of person that would pour my heart into it because I am a really caring person. I can feel ya'll judging already.
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>>76460702
I put down 20% not buying the house flat out
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>>76450999
Trips of truth confirm once again what we already know: Hitler was right.
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>>76460986
>The act of pregnancy and birth itself costs as much as a House if you tried to pay for it out of pocket.
Gen X here, two kids, one of which was premie (nearly half-million when it was all done). Both are healthy, insurance paid for it all.

Feels good, man.
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>>76440728
because the men aren't even close to the proper age to have kids which is ~30, you novice.
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>>76461332
It either applies totally or it doesn't at all, shithead. You're making an argument about a specific group and I don't belong to that specific group. Doesn't work like that.
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>>76440728
No money.

The current year isnt the same as 50 years ago where you could sustain a family with a minimum wage.

A minimum wage barely pays the rent.


Fucked marriage laws is another thing. It's hard to maery and have children in a country where divorce laws exist and are relatively easy to get
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>>76461880

Nah. Not true. If you read the way that I phrased it I was primarily talking about millenials with the middle class being a sort of a sidepoint. The stereotypical millenial traits are strongest in this demographic but there is certainly a tendency for this to apply to groups outside of it.

>And yes, I'm talking to you, the millenial.
>I'm talking to you, the millenial.
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>>76460986
>went 24k into debt for history degree
>six months out of college get alright job making about what my father makes at the height of his career (32k) while living in a MUCH lower cost of living area than he lives in

get on my level
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>>76440728
9/10 looks wise blonde hair fit and 24. Im also rich thanks to parents contacts and nepotism so I'm in the top 10% in terms of annual income and probably 1% if you count all the assets.

My problem is that I'm kinda autistic moved to a new town lost all my high school friends and college friends. I have too much pride to put up with female bullshit and I'm too shy to approach the ones I like. They strike up conversations with me occasionally but I never close the deal. They also lead you on and flirt for fun with no intention of actually being with you. And I also have no fucking clue about what to talk about with them. With the few friends I have I talk about things that matter like conspiracies, the race war, Occult shit, degeneracy and Hockey.

I will probably inevitably get married because it's impossible not to for me but I think the meme that everyone is fucking is a media myth, women only fuck the top 10% from clubs and bars, I just dont have the confidence or the will to engage in this degeneracy but I did in the past when I was less autistic. If I'm not fucking women then the masses of low income shit tier manlets are certainly not either and I don't see how they would. It's actually comforting knowing that.
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>>76462281
Literally your entire argument is based on millennials being spoiled because we were raised middle class. I was raised by a physically abusive single parent and 17 years of that time was spent at the poverty line. Your argument doesn't hold up.
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>>76455473
Holy shit, really? Man, I can't tell if that is a seriously degenerate or based point of view. I think it might be both simultaneously.

If it's bait, you're a master.
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>>76462581
This is mostly true. I share a lot of what you have (slightly autistic, rich background, good looking) and what I've found is, when I was working out and in shape girls came up to me. When I'm not, they treat you like a "break in case of emergency" tool, and you have to recognize that and just drop them. Now I only have time for chicks that are willing to fuck, and its saved me a ton of trouble and heartache, although I've also started working out again because the bottom line in today's society, if you aren't Chad, you're going to get cucked.

Point being, there is hope. Don't put up with chicks that play games, and get in the gym.
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Even if I could afford kids (I can't)

Even if there was some immediate benefit to me (there isn't)

Even if it was to preserve the white race (don't care)

Even if there was a chance I'd be giving birth to the next Mozart or Beethoven (nigga, pleaze)

I still wouldn't.

Why?

Because I've got better things to do with my time.

Watching TV and drinking beer are more important to me.
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>>76441071
fpbp
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21 and can't get sluts off me literally tinder and pof slut on the reg feelsgoodman
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>>76444546
>don't have white children so they don't see a world overrun by niggers

Self fulfilling prophecy
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>>76463392
>Babbys first dating site

Boasting about the sluts you get is like bragging how your the toughest 21 yr old in the kindergarten.
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>>76440728

1) Economy is shit. Half of the population is on some form of government assistance (welfare, social security, unemployment, food stamps, disability etc)
2) Since the economy is crap, less jobs, less job stability (whatever happen to those factory jobs? oh wait shipped to china, whatever happened to customer service jobs? oh wait shipped to india)
3) Children are expensive. Without a stable job, how can you depend on feeding your kids? We went thru the crash in 2003 and 2008. We all could be laid off or have businesses go belly up. What then? How many economic crashes did the previous generation have? The last one was the great depression in the late 1930's and most of those people have died off already or will be dead soon.
4) Overpopulation. We are already overpopulated. Why add to the mess? We can't all have kids, that would just make things worst and worst. It takes these bad economic turns to help hold down overpopulation. Overpopulation also lowers standards of living. We no longer have predators so this is what it takes to curve overpopulation.
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>>76453996

The former only happens if you allow it, and the latter is hilariously delusional.
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>>76463187
Are you literally the Australian version of me?
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>>76440728
I'm turning 30 this fall, anon, and I have wanted nothing more than to be a loving, supportive, firm, do-it-all breadwinner father and husband.

But for the past 10 years, it's been nothing but:
>not being able to save money until about now due to student loans, moving around a lot, and a lot of shitty life choices
>girls I date all want to leave to "find themselves"
>girls I date don't want "to be controlled by a man"
>conservative girls aren't interested in a guy like me because I exude George Carlin level politicism
>not being a Chad = having to work harder to woo women
>the deep seeded and paralyzing depression

I've had a LOT of close calls, but they just fizzle for retarded reasons. I do have at least 3 girls who've all said they would marry me and pop out my kids in a heartbeat, but the situations are weird. All 3 live out of state. 1 is extremely attractive, but has said she wants to "date me first" and that won't happen until "I get my shit together" (which is vague as hell, because she's the one that lives with her parents still). 1 is basically my dream girl and I'll be seeing her again soon, but our current life paths are just not lined up very well. The last 1 is a really good failsafe and cute, and I know she'd gobble my seed like a harpy, giving me many, many beautiful kids, but we sort of already dated and it ended in this beautiful disaster that left her family cursing my name. So... might be a bad idea to hit that up.
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>>76446784

A feel felt across borders, across races.
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>>76444229

once you become a parent doors open up, im serious. ever since having kids, people give me more opportunities and higher pay. like right now i just got hired working an office white collar job, and i have no college experience, and graduated bottom of my class in high school...i think a lot of people save the better jobs and better pay for those who have kids
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>>76462597
Okay. So then it doesn't apply to you. Hence majority. Congratulations. The point I was trying to make has absolutely nothing to do with you and didn't warrant a comment. Congratulations.
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>>76465841

People with kids have to support their kids so they're generally more reliable. They don't like hiring someone that can leave on a whim.
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>>76463171

I know Chad from uni. Captain of the Rugby team extremely outgoing dude bro. Good guy but not too smart. He married the best magical white girl Stacy and they had three children.

They both work minimal wage jobs they live in a shit tier apartment with their parents. Chad is now an alcoholic who doesn't get much sleep he hates Stacy and her parents and he moved out. They are 25 and 24. Chad's life is hell and so is Stacy's. They are good people but they weren't too smart unfortunately.

Too get the good life you see on TV you need to be smart good looking and rich and even then your character is what will determine everything.
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>>76441071
Women are fucking trash, they don't want to commit and they don't want responsibility. No point in trying. Fuck the world, fuck you all, I can't wait to see it burn.
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>>76445565

i made some seriously great money doing what youre doing but i got way more into it. i did that for a couple years with two kids and then used that experience to get a better job.
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>>76466305
this desu senpai
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>why arent millenials having children

millenial here

too expensive

>mfw children
>mfw juuuuust squeezing by
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>>76446247

white people dont have to. we should use less resources though
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>>76464004
>western countries
>Overpopulation. We are already overpopulated.
Stop regurgitating this lie you nu-male cuck boi
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>>76466305

<-----------/r9k/
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>teach girls that white men are the epitome of evile
>teach girls to spend their fertile years pursuing a career that will only pan out for 5% of them
>teach girls that being attractive and pleasing to a man is oppression

Let's all stand back and watch the demographic implosion. This was masterful work.
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>>76440728
...because they themselves are?
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>>76466718
Your ancestors were a hell of a lot smarter than you are.
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>>76440728
Teach a child to be a parasitic freak and they'll still believe you well into adulthood.
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>>76461062
>That sugar filled drink.
>That animal fat dog.
>Bleached wheat flour

Absolutely nothing wrong with consuming those things in moderation. Kids get fat off that food now because they are not as active anymore.
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The only way I get a kid is if I adopt because women are too fucked in the head, and adopting a kid is a behavior of a cuckold which I am not, so no I'm not having kids.

I'd rather invest my 6 figure salary into ventures that will reap profits so I can build up enough fuck you money to buy an island and 3 personal slaves to do my bidding.
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>>76445696
>This is why millenials don't want to have children. Women don't want to be mothers, men who grew up playing vidya or watching cartoons their entire lives end up being autists, betas, or cuckolds, and the rest of men don't want to put up with the average woman's bullshit and end up finding pleasure in the same hobbies that autists and betas enjoy.

A fucking leaf with the best summary ITT.
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>>76466705

>hurr durr cause all continents are the same
>not comparing oranges to apples
>never been to huge cities like SF/LA/NY and all these other large cites chicago/atlanta/dallas/vegas where everyones jammed packed in
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>>76440728

Most women - especially in Canada. Have no commitment to being mothers. Majority of them have become political assclowns or they cannot figure out what they actually want. They will gladly sleep with you but won't settle down unless they have something to gain.

Marriage is a liability. Income is harder to come by - let alone housing prices have increases as well as the total burden of debt.
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>>76467985
No, were are not overpopulated. Quit using it as a justification for you failings as a man.

>never been to huge cities like SF/LA/NY
Just LA, have to fly in there a few times a year for work. I avoid that shit like the plague.

Keep to your quarantine liberal zones, nu-male and we will get along fine.
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>>76466327
If you're not memeing, please, tell me how on Earth you managed to use mturk as job experience.
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>>76468574

not memeing at all, basically just learn the autohotkey and other coding stuff like javascript that everyone uses, you dont even have to be that good at it and then make a point about doing data entry and whatever other tasks you do and how you have to communicate with lots of people blah blah, you self manage your own time, manage to make good money, etc just basically try to sell yourself a little..it definitely worked for me.
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I find it kind off funny that whilst the west are producing less and less children, the east's population is increasing so much that it cant even be contained.

>jew agenda
>muh shekels
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>>76468992
>autohotkey

So this would involved installing some program I assume? I'll look into this.

>data entry

So something like freelance data entry on your resume? Thanks for the info, I'll step up my game.
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Atheism.
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>>76468472

>implying all the red west of the land isn't complete desert wasteland
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>>76442764
I will be honest with you. This is the stupidest reason not to have children.

The world and life for the most part has always been a hell hole. It has always been hard and difficult. People are meant to persevere and will find a way to survive.
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>>76440728
Because they they are not catholic like me.

I was born in 88. My wife is 5 months pregnant with my son. (yes storm fags, we are both blonde hair blue eyed)

Feels good.
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>>76469326
It's not.

The majority of it is grassland for cattle.

Western nations are not overpopulated. It's a subversive bullshit lie to stop whites from reproducing.

Quit perpetuating it.
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>>76467027

Its a play...as in fiction...
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>>76469655
Ya. It says that right in the picture.
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>>76469435

Congrats Anon!
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>>76440728
Subversion.
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>>76469178

yes, defintely look into it, you'll make a lottt more $$ on mturk..i had points where i was making 2.5-3k per month on there, it was awesome..dont listen the people who say it cant be done, check out the mturkforum and sites like that NOT the reddit because its kinda newbie..
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>>76470327
you really want to do this bruv?
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>>76470560
all of day bro
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Love was a meme, an excuse to validate lust.

Internet has made lust socially acceptable AND free

Love is over. The social contract is crumbling, society follows soon after. This is the final generation.
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>>76470560
>>76470657
Fags
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>>76470657

Anime reaction faces are boring
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>>76440728
looking at my parents gives me great reason why I wouldn't have children

>sleeping in separate rooms
>stares at the screen all day
>leaving all the chores to us

If they became such degenerate parents I don't see why I wouldn't be one either. And besides

>wanting to bring in a poor soul into this world full of pain and suffering and degeneracy and social constructionism
>this much Jewery
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>>76470905
dirty fucking sponge nigger reaction faces any better?
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why did evolution have to create attractiveness

do you think ants judge each other the way we do

or gorillas

no

its ridiculous

that is why I wont marry and have kids. im tired of being ugly. I didnt choose any of this, why would I choose an already worse life
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>>76470921

you and your family were all jew'd lol
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>>76442036
Blacks, living in the ghetto, are quite hedonistic. Don't they still manage to have lots of kids?
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>>76466044
and then you can use that very family as a bargaining chip
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Christ, is like 80% of /pol/ unadjusted malcontents? I'm 34, married, 1 son, another kid being planned, own a house, 2 cars, and we have a live in mother in law who cooks and watches the kid while me and the wife pull in 110k. It's not fucking hard, just move to where their are opportunities and work hard.

And by "work hard" that I mean make connections, put in the time at a company, stay in a career, get relevant work experience, and always look out for new opportunities.

And we're fucking minorities in TX of all places. Step it up guys, cmon its America, the land of opportunity, not whining and playing the blame game.

Also, if you can't meet a lady to make a baby with, well fucking start dating outside your race and culture. If scary white independent sluts are the only thing you've been dating, then try a Purrto Rican, an Asian, or some other type that still harbors the family values that you need.
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>>76472024
>planning another kid
for what purpose
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I mean I don't really feel like contributing to the gene pool until i'm at least 25. Like a good life, find a stable job, live on my own (away from D.C. nigger.)
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>>76472024
Sounds like hell. I'm going to travel the world instead
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>>76440728
Donnu what you are talking about my sister just got one and im planning on soon too
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Parents taught us all that school, career and money are all that matter and that family is secondary or will just fall into place with the rest.

Careerism (for both men and women) is the ultimate bluepill and the main cause for falling birthrates
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>>76472254
When you have one you realize they are a lot of fun, also, you feel a sense of pride when your son does and learns stuff. alot of primal urges and feelings get welled up in you, and you just a feel like you need another one.
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Functional humans are produced via a good mixture of genetics and environment.

If the genetics of millennials are faulty it means our parents were low genetic quality.
If the environment of millennials is faulty it means that our parents were not smart enough to raise us.

Check mate atheists.
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>>76472587

kek thats not hard to afford once you get a good job
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>>76442773
>>Second Tower of Babel

you're using it right now, it's the Internet
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>>76473217
Trustfund-anon here. Money isn't the issue
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>>76472024
>34
>"wooooow it's not hard guys xD"

Yeah fuck off gramps, housing prices have doubled in my area in the last 10 years, the generation behind mine has the prospect of never earning enough money to buy a house, unless all the boomers magically fucking die.
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>>76462581
>My problem is that I'm kinda autistic moved to a new town lost all my high school friends and college friends. I have too much pride to put up with female bullshit and I'm too shy to approach the ones I like. They strike up conversations with me occasionally but I never close the deal. They also lead you on and flirt for fun with no intention of actually being with you. And I also have no fuckin


>Canadian Women - Not Even once.

Honestly, having travelled through the States and Europe for work Canadian women are just shit tier. The whole culture is very stand-offish, so no one is ever relaxed enough to socialize.
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This century will be the bloodiest one of them all. The future is a human slaughterhouse and butchershop. I'm not bringing more life into this world so it can suffer pointlessly and then die. I refuse to have a hand in that. We live in the worst dystopia the world has ever seen and it only gets worse from here on out. Shame me all you want, call me what you will, I've heard it all before and I don't really care.
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>>76440728

--Offshored industry means low wages for Americans, just like I predicted 25 years ago, even though I don't have a degree in economics.

--Housing bubble

--Higher taxes because of ageing population and expanding non-White population, and endless wars for Israel
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>>76444204
Romance is a big Jewish lie.

there's a reason the brown immigrants have arranged marriages. Marrying for "love" isn't even part of it.
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>>76472254
>implying there is some magical number of children everyone should strive for
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I'm too busy drinking myself to death to start a family. That opportunity is long gone for me.
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>>76453961
>looked at my parents

>sleeping in separate rooms
>stares at the screen all day
>leaves all the chores to us

yeah, maybe.
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>>76471329
Female house sparrows choose mates based off of the size of the black 'bib' underneath a male's chin which corresponds to testical size. These things are not exclusive to us, little is.
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>>76473547
Start working on building your credit anon, after that, work and save for your down payment. Oh, housing is too expensive, then live somewhere it's not. Move the fuck away. I moved from up north to the south, it was hard, I left family and friends, but I was able to build a family and make friends. You can do it too
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>>76474532
Holy shit kek.

I mean I think my parents had it bad, lol.
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>>76471648
Dad leaves and mom gets hedonism bux form gubbament
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Because humanity as a whole has went beyond the apex so there really isnt a need to continue on.
You are now meaningless and so your kids will also be meaningless.
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>>76445058
>>76445117

people still replied to this thread

you guys are fucking worthless
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because i'm gay
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i guarantee i will make the same mistakes my parents did raising me. i will not put a child through that shit, nor will I do it again.
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>>76443356
Lol! You must be a weak-willed and socially nervous faggot. Who gives a shit? Raise your children to be hard as nails fucks who could survive in the wastelands if the world went to hell. If people like you don't then the only survivors of an apocalypse will be those already living in one; niggers, mudslimes, shitskins, etc.
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>>76440728
They do. It's just normal that countries with high quality of life have less births.

But too many muslims are coming in...
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>>76472024
>I mean make connections
Implying it is easy for us...
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>>76440728
Because pic related and the economy is already adjusted to a household being two adults working full-time, without dependents.

Not 70 years ago, an 18 year old man could drop out of highschool and get a job capable of supporting a 17yr old pregnant wife. Think about all the ways that situation would be alien to us now.
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>>76440728
My wife and I are millennials, we have kids.

Gotta preserve the white race and whatnot.
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I've got legit autism. My dad is a textbook beta bucks autist who got taken advantage of because he can't say no. I wouldn't pass defective genes onto another person, it's cruel.
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>>76479870
that would be a totally different kind of degeneracy at its highest peak and I wouldn't want me or my children in it.

glad I'm born in the /beautiful ones/ era.
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>>76440728
I'll gladly inseminate other people's women, but I'm afraid they'll be autistic since my dad conceived me at 50.
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>>76466044
>>76471806
You guys serious? They want to control you. They know you have no other choice than to work to support your family. Leaving is too risky for you. You aren't any more reliable nor can you use it as a bargaining chip. In fact, they'll use IT as a bargaining chip on YOU. "Work overtime, remember you're working for your family."
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