If Britain votes to leave the EU and successfully does so, do you think your country will have an EU membership referendum?
Would it immediately be called for, or would it take 5 or 10 years to be called once people see the results of Brexit on the UK?
You're making a mistake. The EU is going through a rough patch, that's all. You Brits never change, once a quitter always a quitter.
>>76389577
i wish it could be instant, and then france and UK could simultaneously conduct parternership to leave UE, cooperating to shit down Juncker throat. Would be great.
>>76389709
Once a bitch to the bigger powers, always a bitch. First the pope. Then us. Now the EU. Where is your self re-cocking-spect?
If we tell them Brexit (which we won't, because the vote will be fixed) then they will ask us again and again until we answer "correctly".
>>76389863
>tfw there will never be a Frangleterre in my lifetime
Tonight at the debate, will Nigel be able to rebut Cameron after he speaks, or do they both get one long speech?
>>76389942
We are only a small nation with a small population. The pope used to wield an awful lot if power.
>>76389942
Did you polish the brass moustache?
Bury the beds.
>>76389988
i am fine with this
also combine colonies
>>76389988
Sad desu
>>76389988
>Frangleterre
Neo-Angevin Empire when?
>>76389947
This Goy gets it.
The vote is gonna be fixed.
>>76390087
So? England is a small nation, there's no fucking excuse, we also subsidise three other regions and contribute to the EU.
Let that sink in.
>>76390077
Cameron got absolutely fucking destroyed by Faisal Jihad bin Islam.
I think Farage will be fine, Cameron is a liar and liars break apart easily.
The jews won't let UK leave the EU.
>>76390383
You also have quite a large population for a country of your size. Obviously that plays a part you daft cunt.
>>76390409
>>76390409
The Jews can choke on an American foreskin for all I care, there's demand for a second referendum if remain wins by a small margin.
Besides, even if we don't leave, the EU will fall apart. It's inevitable.
>>76389988
>brits and frogs
>working together
Didn't work the past 1000 years, what makes you think it would now?
Yes
And I think we would have a decent chance of leaving. But it would take 7-10 years I think.
Can't say the same for Germany, France, Holland, Belgium etc.
SO PLEASE VOTE OUT
>>76389577
Unlikely. All major political parties are in support of EU membership (Russia will kill us all!), most moneyed interests are for it too and citizens notice gibsmedats more than the negative aspects.
>>76390474
I suppose ruling over 458 million people is an advantage yes.
>>76390521
We most certainly wouldn't stick them in a currency union and keep them hooked like a heroin addict to farming subsidies.
>>76390521
our collective hatred of you and belgium
>>76390521
It's the monarchies fault kraut
High English culture is French.
>>76390581
95% of them were niggers.
>>76390622
>And Belgium
Fuck you.
>>76390521
The last times in modern history they worked together, they fought a common enemy. An enemy set on destroying all of Europe.
So if such an enemy were to emerge again, it would... Oh wait!
>>76390660
including the potato variety
>>76390503
>It's inevitable
Top kek.
That has been said since 1960s.
>>76390622
Frogs and bongs didn't even stop hating eachother in the world wars. This is nothing.
>>76390660
Nah, that's the French empire, we killed our niggers.
The EU built us some roads twenty years ago and as a result 90% of the people are hopelessly in lust with it despite that fuckhandedness of the EU in general since then and the fact that EU regulations are raping our agricultural industry
>inb4 muh subsidies
Farmers wouldn't need subsidies if they were free to operate their businesses without EU interference.
>>76390729
kek, top tier bantz. Anyway, how does it feel living in a caliphate? It must really humiliate you.
>>76390736
And look at the state of it now? It is inevitable, it either has to expand and absorb new areas or it collapses. It has every hallmark of a Ponzi scheme, and as I say this thunder is roaring the sky.
I think Taranis is listening to me again, I prayed to Taranis to strike the mainland with lightning and floods and Taranis has.
Watch yourself.
>>76390819
http://www.thejournal.ie/migrants-ireland-quota-eu-2102190-May2015/
You tell us.
>>76390927
>500 people
Holy kek. You have over 1500 mosques.
>>76390988
And most get burned or targeted, whereas you clap the buildings of yours.
Also % <--- That symbol is more important than the crescent moon and star Abdi bin Mohammed.
>>76390819
i don't, although i feel for the Londoners who have flooded Essex and other places.
rural east Anglia is pretty much a hotter protestant version of rural Ireland which has less niggers/non natives.
>>76390859
State is just like it was in 1960s and 70s. There's no need for expansion. Actually the 2004 expansion made the EU much weaker.
>it either has to expand and absorb new areas or it collapses
There's no way you can motivate this. Saying that it's a ponzi means nothing.
Stop acting like you're an expert, kiddo. The EU will not fall apart if members states will not tear it apart.
>>76390770
>we killed our niggers.
lolno.
the only persons who killed niggers were muslims. They had more african slaves than we ever traded but they cut their balls off.
>>76389577
Our politicians are retards who will cling to this sinking ship to the bitter end, unless we remove them, so sadly, no.
>>76391095
>That pic
>My sides
Also anyone else hear the thunder?
>>76391090
>And most get burned or targeted
Why are you lying lad? Your country's a fucking goner. You even have police wearing fucking hijabs.
>>76390927
kek
>>76389577
I think it would take time. But we're so fucking backwards nowadays we might just jump out of the EU boat as it is halfway under the sea
>>76391132
>lolno
lolyes.
You're the dumb idiots that thought you could civilise them, how is Mali working out btw?
>>76391130
>See's flag
Predictable rabble from your country, face the fact, the EU is collapsing and in July another Eurozone crisis is going to happen.
Defend your precious union then when you have to pick up the tab for the nations you've debt enslaved and pegged to your failed German currency.
Idiot.
>>76391185
not yet, meant to have a fuckton of thunder later today
inb4 isis use the thunder to mask the bombings
Which countries besides the UK are the most Eurosceptic? Netherlands and Denmark?
>>76389577
Can someone please explain me why Brits think they will be let out ? From my understanding this referendum has no legal binding so the Goverment could just say lol no.
>>76391213
Me lie? No m'lady I don't lie, your country is the true goner.
Current mudskin birth rates for UK and Republic of Ireland are 3.0.
Mudskin birthrates by 2050 for UK(2.5) and Republic of Ireland(2.6).
You really are the fucked ones, and seeing as you're part of the EU, your opt in migrant acceptance scheme will be gone by October.
Have fun with that.
>>76391213
>One picture is indicative of a trend.
I cannot wait until we remove kebab so we can then go back to persecuting you with all the spare time and prosperity we'll have..
>>76391371
It's hitting pretty hard here now, no rain though and I have to go out in this soon.
You realizd you'll only leave after a Europe wide violent outbreak, right? Your vote means nothing.
>>76389577
>We vote Brexit
>France follows suit along with other countries
>We form our own union with Britain as the head, rather than Germany is with the EU
>>76391287
>lolyes.
Ok I recently joined the thread and briefly read some dumb posts about how most mosques are targeted, etc... I guess it comes from you.
You're totally deluded and ignorant. I don't know why you act like this. Because you're just dumb or you decided to troll, that being said. You're not worth my time.
I'm not here to speak with clowns.
>>76391130
I actually agree with you, I don't think it'll fall apart on its own. However, it will be outgrown by literally every other continent, trade bloc and union in the world by 2030. When that happens, where would you rather be, tied to a stagnant, outmatched customs union, or safely sitting outside it, having left while your national was still strong enough to manage it?
>>76391381
the fact that a german is asking a question in that manner is why.
BE LET OUT
you are "letting" us out , that is why
>>76391443
bring a brolly lad
>>76391381
Because the government will be signing its own death warrant.
>>76391375
The Dutch will never leave, unless violence happens. Our politicians see ys as cattle and a nuisance.
>>76391465
tl;dr
You can't counter my point that you're the one that breeds and civilises niggers, whereas my country has a history of genociding them, ask the Irish.
Now fuck off, you lost. Get over it and suck more German and Arab dick, you're good at that.
>>76391568
I don't mind the rain and getting wet, just lightning.
>>76391185
We had a fuckload of thunder and lightning last night, it's probably the same system passing over you lads
>>76391500
*national economy
>>76391396
We're the fucked ones? kekekek. The damage is done, leaving the EU will make no difference.
>>76391401
Ahh will ya shtop. You're a pathetic nation filled to the brim with pathetic people.
What's the fucking point, there's a shitload of niggers and shitskins already inside the country
Dads voting out because of some bullshit story about a burglar suing the home owner cause he fell in the pool.
Sister switched to leave after the EU demanded all that cash.
Other sister revealed undecided status to me yesterday, sent her the hannan izzard debate.
Mother married an old communist so she's a lost cause.
Work on your families anons.
>>76391770
>the EU demanded all that cash.
what now?
>>76391711
And what does that say about the Irish, whom we subjugated, starved and brutalised?
If Pathetic is capable of subjugating you, you're indeed need of introspection on a national scale.
Hell, you're not even a whole isle. We gave up our war with you, and yet, we refuse to give back that slip of land in the top corner. Just to remind that you that we were in the Emerald isle, we took what was yours, and you still don't have the balls to take it back.
We may be pathetic warmongers, but at least we're not a nation of posturing cowards.
>>76391695
>>76391500
The ECB issues promissory's which are tied to the value of assets. Remember when the EU raided 10% of Greek and Cypriot savers accounts? They pegged the value of the debt to land and house values.
In order to keep printing money as the ECB is, it had to accept Romania and Bulgaria in, two shit holes that no one fucking wanted in.
It will have to accept Turkey, Albania etc to keep the pyramid propped up.
It has no choice but to otherwise it will collapse via mutual indebtedness. The entire system is designed to drive nations toward being bailed out with conditioned aid.
It's called debt enslavement and the British empire did it to the 13 colonies in America.
Old trick, but Lelgium and other stupid Europhile nations can't see it because they're dumb and dumb dumbs deserve to rot.
>>76391820
Clearly you haven't read The Sun recently
The EU demanded £1,000,000,000 from the EU for every Muslamic migrant that tries to get in to Europe
Holy fucking shit that bolt of lightning just hit a house opposite me.
AHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA fucking hell Taranis is active today!
>>76391820
That lump sum a while back where the EU retroactively taxed us for the economy doing better than theirs.
>>76391943
>>76391820
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/04/britain-asked-for-more-cash-as-migrant-crisis-strains-eu-budget/
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/may/24/divert-10-of-eu-funds-refugee-crisis-germany-gerd-muller
You talking about these?
>>76391711
>kekekek
Why is every potatonigger underage as fuck?
>>76389577
No way UK is allowed to leave.
Will be the same result as the Austrian election.
the counters will wait until they know how many votes they need to stay.
Then that will be the number of postal votes counted.
Just wait and see if it does not play out like this.
ANY economic difficulties is to prefer over the countries of our ancestors turning into muslim hell holes.
>>76391881
But you are a nation of cowards you sit back sipping your tea and watch as hordes of """""Asians"""" forcefully take your land from you. I would be downright embarrassed to British. You have a paki shop on every corner and you have a mosque in every town. If I were you I'd sudoku because it isn't worth it. The British that built the empire are dead and gone. What took their place is a disgrace.
>>76391770
>the hannan izzard debate
Man, that was a struggle to get through. I actually quite like Eddie Izzard, but whenever he gets political, it just rams home the point that comedians have absolutely nothing of value to add to such a debate. If it was anything other than a student audience, he'd have had nowhere near the support that he got.
>>76391901
Oh, I quite agree, the EU will crumble in comparison to everywhere else, and inevitably have to keep expanding to keep afloat. However, I don't think that the people running the show will ever let it officially end; they'll grasp every last straw to keep their dream alive, even as it spells the inevitable end for it. They've missed their opportunity to let the EU dissolve relatively peacefully.
>>76392104
I agree.
>>76392050
>>76392140
>Oh, I quite agree, the EU will crumble in comparison to everywhere else, and inevitably have to keep expanding to keep afloat. However, I don't think that the people running the show will ever let it officially end; they'll grasp every last straw to keep their dream alive, even as it spells the inevitable end for it. They've missed their opportunity to let the EU dissolve relatively peacefully.
And when it gets to that point, when they desperately cling? Do you think there will be violent revolt?
Also are you seeing the lightning at all? It's amazing, really massive bolts coming close to the ground, amazing stuff.
It's so pretty.
Your picture is wrong OP. The elderly are far more favourable of voting in leaving the EU. I've even heard plenty of them use the utterance 'to make England great again'. And no, they don't go on /pol/, they watch the BBC news which has had it's fair share of Trump -- albeit negative -- press.
The youth of our country are in favour of being liberal and so wish to vote stay. I'm one of those youth but I wish to leave, because all logic implies leaving makes our country stronger, especially a decade from now.
>>76389577
We tried that a hundred years ago, didn't work out too well.
>>76392260
>violent revolt
Personally, no, at least not in Western Europe. We've been too comfortable for too long to risk our stable, happy family lives for any grand, abstract scheme that's realistically very detached from our daily experiences. Besides, we'll be the ones better placed to cope with any inevitable breakaway from the EU. No, the people I feel bad for are Eastern Europeans, and the people of soon-to-be EU nations who will be sold a false dream of prosperity. Those poor folks will be drawn into the EU, not because the EU is benevolent and has their best interests at heart, but because it needs these new countries in order for it to leverage their populations against mounting debt.
With regards to violent revolt, I don't think it will happen in great amounts any time soon. However, the longer this charade goes on and the more political decisions are distanced from the electorate in these nations, the higher the chance gets that the EU will eventually end with an unnecessary, violent conclusion, instead of the progressive, gentle one it sorely needs.
>>76390077
>Tonight at the debate, will Nigel be able to rebut Cameron after he speaks, or do they both get one long speech?
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-07/david-cameron-and-nigel-farage-face-audience-questions-on-itv-in-live-eu-referendum-appearance/
>Ukip leader Nigel Farage, who wants Britain to vote to pull out of the EU, has said he is preparing to take on the Prime Minister by not having an alcoholic drink for a week.
lel
>>76389947
Isn't it an internal referendum? I thought they can't influence that.
Besides, if they did that, don't you think that there'd be riots?
>>76392062
I hope that's not the case. Riots will ensue.
>>76392136
>Nation of cowards
>Biggest empire in human history.
>>76393903
It will be, and you know it. As if the political elite and the banker elite will let you leave just like that.
Remember the dutch referendum? No... i thought so.
We're just cattle bruv
>>76389577
Britain will vote to stay in the EU against all advice, knowing that France and Spain are going to need the biggest bailout yet in 3-5 year
>>76393971
The britain of today is unrecognisable compared to the britain of the 19th century.
>>76394052
the polls are currently indicating a fairly close to 50/50 split
Hopefully over the next 2 weeks it'll tip into the favor of leaving.
>>76390564
By Jove I hope so, come on it's time for a Swexit.
>>76394350
I hope other nation states follow in leaving Europe. If you do can I come for a visit? :3
>>76393990
I Remember, for what it's worth.
and the Danish ones, and the Irish ones.
oh, and the Greek ones.
Sigh.
>>76394713
All Brit-bongs are welcome in Sweden.
Though about the EU I think especially within economics Sweden and the UK are very similar politically. Both nations are largely based services something the EU still has high tariffs on. I also see that both Sweden and the UK are largely anti protectionist something the EU is practising heavily.
>>76395120
I have a few Swedish friends who were convinced that it was racist to be against immigration, until i threw facts at them for a few weeks straight. I was wondering, what's the media like in Sweden? Does it cover shit up and does it have an obvious political leaning/agenda?
>>76395226
The majority of Swedish media has a strong leftist bias which is not representative of population. Even the state media SVT has a very strong left bias.
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>>76395643
I've noticed that as well. I've noticed a big difference between the common Swede and the middle-class ones.
Is there any way to do anything about media bias? Why not set up a conservative TV station or something?
When will Sweden decuck itself?
>>76389577
If Britain leaves, the EU collapses under the weight of the Polish burden
Pic related
>>76395869
Well hopefully the UK leaving will encourage other member states to leave. The Union is a good idea that's gone terribly wrong and become corrupt.
>>76395835
There are some web-newspapers that are more conservative but I still think that despite the leftist media that a large portion of the population see through the propaganda its just not a large enough portion though it is a growing portion.
>>76389577
undoubtedly yes... we may not be members of the EU but we have to do everything for you faggots. learn to fight... git gud FGT
>>76396181
Hopefully Trump wins and Brexit succeeds. We can uncuck the world together.
>>76389577
I don't work in the UK so spare your remarks, but I hope it won't happen. It would damage the EU and we can't afford this in the current world situation. I mean now that I think about it, why would brits want to leave the UK in the first place? explain yourself. If you want to limit immigration so badly, then you can do that without leaving that's fine by me.
>>76396361
But closing our borders is not fine with the Union. The lose more money by being in the Union and it damages our economy. We don't need it, it needs us.
>>76396455
The UK loses*
>>76395972
>The Union is a good idea that's gone terribly wrong and become corrupt.
Full blue-pill. The Union was envisioned as a totalitarian super-state RIGHT FROM THE START. I hope that Brexit happens so that other EU countries can also leave the EU, which would be a MAJOR, MAJOR setback to the globalist agenda which also wants an American Union that includes the United States.
>>76393627
>I thought they can't influence that
TOP KEK
>>76396611
>Not both understanding that the EU will be a glorious European superstate, and wanting it.
I don't understand this board.
>>76389577
Here we can do it immediately if we want.
Ah but I forgot.. We never have been in this shitty cucked union darling.
>>76389577
Hopefully Visegrad group (Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary) will follow. Austria came within about 0.3% votes of electing a based President ('postal ballot' corruption stopped them) so glimmers of hope there too. Scandis, Germany, France and Netherlands too cucked to change imo. Italy, Spain and Portugal are all financial/economic basket cases and dependent on EU moneys for survival so no hope of them leaving.
>>76396700
European superstate where the unelected are in control and the public are trodden on and exploited.
>>76396755
Literally every decent state is like that.
>>76396455
>We don't need it, it needs us.
I don't think that's how economy works. I think it would damage both the EU and the UK. Is there an article that lists the pros and cos of the UK leaving and the consequences?
>>76395972
If it were purely about lowering trade barriers and freeing up movement for education (as was originally intended) it would be good. However it's clearly not about that - it's a blatantly political project based on the fantasies of political careerist hacks and their delusions of grandeur and contempt for the electorate.
Yeah, all governments since 2004 wasted all the money given by the EU and other members of EU will let us go and forgive the debt kek. We are tied up forever, till the ship will sink or war will take place. Somehow people here still think an economic success is based on cheap outsourcing for foreign companies, assembly lines for foreign companies and foreign supermarkets all of which don't pay taxes in most cases. Nobody will be succesful with a plunger factory and an infinitely increasing debt, sorry.
>>76396862
Well I think it wouldn't damage the UK. Because it would firstly, give us our waters back, which would allow our fishing industry to boom. Trade with Europe wouldn't stop because they need us (as we've both admitted). And it allows us to globalize properly and trade with countries that have growing economies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKEUT1TiLU
>>76396822
No it's not and you know it. Take your shill-shekels and fuck off, Shlomo.
>>76395972
No it was not.
It was only sold to people as an economical union, it's totalitarian regime was probably planned from the start.
It didn't go corrupt, it started that way.
>>76390521
It's all thanks to you kraut bro. We're now united in our desire to spill innocent aryan blood
>>76389577
Probably not, that'd be weird
>>76396700
The EU is full of marxists and cultural marxists. Merkel importing millions of refugees is just the start. Once they dissolve the borders you're going to see some really fun population shifts - IE, complete and utter eradication of anglo-saxon, dane, and germanic blood. That is what they want.
I couldn't care less about some weird autistic Hitleresque fantasy of muh greater EU federal union. I don't want it. I don't want to eventually be drafted to fight norks because they threw a missile at turks, yes, that is what is coming, if you don't see that Turkey will join the EU soon, you haven't been paying attention.
>>76396735
There's hope for Denmark, they're actually pretty based. Norway is salvageable too and Finland could save themselves.
>>76389577
lads
anyone got the vid of the battle of nations interview where the guy shouts RULE BRITANNIA
need it bad
>>76397059
States are always controlled by their elites. In the West, now and then the population gets to nudge things in a direction of their choosing, but that's about it. In the future, EU parliament elections will allow us to nudge policy slightly, but as always the general direction will be decided higher up.
>>76397309
>he says while the frogs actively loathe his language, culture and support the EU
>>76389709
Your autistic it's the best possible scenario for britain... pops has it right you all are fucked
>>76390660
Including your people? Kek what an autist
>>76391095
eastangliafag here, can confirm
>>76397009
>Trade with Europe wouldn't stop because they need us (as we've both admitted).
It would definitely drop because of tax markup that would allow other manufacturers and service providers to take place of UK. Your state can try subsidizing the tax but there is a price anyways. Items bought from EU would also increase in price. Generally a new trade agreement would have to be made to continue trade with fewest losses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax
>>76398322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKEUT1TiLU
http://www.economistsforbrexit.co.uk/
>>76399437
No way is anyone going to listen to that for 30 minutes. What are the key points?
>>76400405
Tl;dr Politically unaffiliated master economists say we should get the hell out of Europe.
-UK & Europe will still be allies even if we leave.
-We need parliamentary sovereignty so we can govern our own affairs.
-Allows us to trade globally much more easily
-We can't influence global prices, but what we can and do do is produce high quality goods, and it would encourage us to be competitive.
-European trade agreements are irrelevant, we need to get out of a protectionist trade arrangement, namely the European Customs Union).
-The union would be beneficial to a country who sell a lot to the union, and buy little. But we're in the opposite situation, so it's damaging.
-We should abandon tariffs, because it would lower the internal prices for our consumers.
-About 9% of our GDP is exported to the EU. On that 9% we would comply with EU standards. The other 91% will be free of those regulations, and will operate with respect to how we as a country decide benefits our industries the most.
