Lolbertarians hate thread
>>76385773
Bump and +1 for Nationalist and Tradical views instead of cucked soft on race and degeneracy issues
>>76385921
Poo
wait, is your country made of ICE???? HAHAHAHAHA GET IT!
>>76385773
Rights are a spook anyway
Dude, let's legalize heroin and open up our borders, bro.
But first let me smoke this joint...
>>76386292
What's with Libcucks and DUDE BORDERS DON'T REAL/le donation based military maymay anyway? Wouldn't it make sense to have a strong outer shell in order to protect the deregulated circumstances within?
I mean... *it should be obvious*. No? O-okay.
not an argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs
Why not have Libertarianism and Nationalism
>It's a "libertarian party is a legitimate option" episode
>>76386975
Can't. Libertarianism requires open borders for a free market. Nationalism requires tightly controlled borders to maintain racial, cultural, and social integrity. As you can see, the two are clearly mutually exclusive at the most basic level.
Keep attacking those strawmen.
That's the best you tiny brain can do, Björn.
>>76386975
You can't get free market without open the borders.
>>76387095
Sorry mate a lot of Libertarians don't like free movement of people or want it. Some Libertarians in the US want it because they have never experienced it, I however have and many UK Libertarians disagree with the EU and open door mass immigration.
https://youtu.be/2OQ5PJsGeUo
>>76387231
Free markets require two regulations. One, Import Tariffs to keep the economy competitive and preserve British Jobs and two controlled immigration with a meritocratic point system.
These are just my opinions. I'm not an Anarchist, An Cap or a pure Libertarian
Good thread. Lolbertarianism is a shit tier ideology.
>>76387573
Better than Communism or Fascism
>>76387095
Libertarianism requires open borders, yes. But it also requires abolishing the welfare state and guarantees the right to discriminate. Individuals could choose to not interact with foreigners. How long do you reckon shitskins will stay if the local white community won't grant them access to basic needs?
I think that in a radical freedom society, the only people migrating anywhere are the ones that can sustain themselves economically *and* also want to fully become a member of the host nation, adopting its identity completely. There would be no other choice since anything else would lead to ostracism.
All this being said I do vote for nationalistic anti-immigration parties because there are no legitimate freedom parties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Nad1b_3yY
>>76387573
Right-conservative traditionalist libertarianism is the way too go.
Authoritarian commies eat your heart out
>>76385773
Those complaining about libertarians supporting 'open borders' (I.e. free travel of goods and labor) forget that libertarianism has no welfare state. Shitskins won't show up if you don't 'gib dem da free shid'.
>>76387095
Why? Why is it impossible to have a free market as well as having an enforced border?
Conservatives and LIbertarians can work together.
>>76387607
kek
>>76387665
>>76387095
No libertarianism doesn't mean open borders you cucks, seeing as how are collective resources a libertarian society would have to share. Not to mention social cohesion.
https://www.isidewith.com/poll/384434732/962379
>>76385773
>implying this isn't divide and conquer tactics to break the libertarian-natsoc /pol/liance against commies.
/leftypol/ bls go
I'm a libertarian and I support Trump. I don't understand why so many libertarians hate him. He is the best candidate in a long time.
Libertarian here. I support your guys right to make memes about my political ideologies, and thank you for exercising your liberty to do so.
>>76387730
So, we know you don't like libertarianism , but what is your ideology and how does it differ from it?
>Inb4 muh open borders
>Inb4 muh roads
Call "libertarianism" what you like but most libertarians support stronger borders.
>>76387095
>>76387231
>free market
>open borders
These 2 have nothing to do with each other.
Authoritarians are retarded.
Also, you are not an authoritarian if you want open borders.
Paleoconservatism is the best right-wing ideology.
>>76388142
>In a long time
>forgetting/being too young to remember RP
Newfag
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs
>moving to Somalia
>>76388405
>Le Somalia meme
>Implying Somalia has contract enforcement, guaranteed rights, or rule of law
>>76388296
I'm talking about candidates that actually made it onto the ballot on voting day. Ron Paul was great, but he stood no chance in the primaries.
>>76387629
Neither of those two are great, but Fascism is better than Libertarianism
>>76388505
>he stood no chance in the primaries
Again, I repeat : newfag
>>76387665
>I think that in a radical freedom society, the only people migrating anywhere are the ones that can sustain themselves economically *and* also want to fully become a member of the host nation, adopting its identity completely. There would be no other choice since anything else would lead to ostracism.
Considering this is exactly what happened in America's past before welfare and fairly open boards this isn't really an assumption it is an educated opinion with historical precedent.
>>76388592
So having a one party state government where you are not allowed to have any opinion other that what the government deems right is somehow good? Jesus Christ mate
>>76388652
Ah yes, my mistake. I remember now that Ron Paul easily won the nomination and became president in 2008 and again in 2012.
>>76388592
>but Fascism is better than Libertarianism
Fascism has failed nearly as uniformly as Communism.
From fdr to Mussolini to fascist Spain.
>>76385773
>not believing we can have a high trust society if we keep the European white population over 80%.
We just need more whites.
>>76388847
Your memory serves you well. Good post.
>>76388745
As long as they support the ideas that I support, its great.
>>76389007
To get people to believe in one idea can be only done though indoctrination and propaganda. Which in turn requires state control. If you want everyone to think the same and act the same then you are a Fascist. I don't think like you, I don't want to think like you. Fuck Communism. Fuck Fascism. Fuck Heavy Authoritarianism. Fuck you
whites under true capitalism
>conquered the world, multiplied like rabbits, built culture, 0% degeneracy
whites under socialism
>no will you achieve anything, yolo party, the government will fix it if I fuck up
I thought you were smart, /pol/.
>>76389007
>I support authoritarianism and oppressive government
>just not the (overwhelmingly prevalent) left wing kind
Ok lol enjoy getting your shit pushed by a left wing nanny state
>>76387607
I watched the entire debate to hear that part. It did not disappoint.
>>76389221
Theres no more freedom
>>76390264
So you hate the individual and economic freedoms?
>>76389007
it's just like talking to one of Obongo's supporters
>why are you giving Obama all of this state power?
>I support his ideas so it's great
>but what about anyone that would succeed him? are you comfortable with them having that power as well?
>I support his ideas so it's great
You specified earlier that it wasn't great so I'm not really knocking you here, it's just eerily similar to conversations I had back when Obama was more popular with the general public
>>76390439
No, it just doesnt exist anymore.
>>76390577
Well it will exist in every human being who believes in it.
>>76385773
>Evola among a group of plebs
ABSOLUTELY DECADENT
>>76390725
Lol ok. Enjoy your free fucking, free trade super immigrant, 3rd world tier shithole with no industry
>>76389276
We are more capitalist than ever, white conquer the world under strong authoritarian rulers
>>76390852
Not what I'm advocating for but you enjoy your authoritarian nanny state nightmare.
>>76390957
Well if you're advocating for individual and economic freedom, thats what you will get.
>>76391025
Freedom requires borders and small state
>>76391071
Wrong.
It requires no borders (freedom of travel) and a big state/government to make sure everybody has their freedoms
>>76391071
That's why personal interest and freedom must stay under the common good
>>76391071
How can you have economic freedom if you dont allow business to employ foreigners? Its their choice to employ who they want. And if someone wants to be a tranny cum dump that likes to spread hiv, who are you to stop them.
>>76391201
*And individual freedom
>>76391244
You can let them employ foreigners ffs! Just not under a free movement systems
>>76385773
What if I told you Libertarians want you to be Authoritarian Nationalists if that's what makes you happy, does not infringe upon constitutional rights or natural balance of a stable society.
>>76385773
EVOLA
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>>76391328
Why not?
>>76391244
That's why you can't accept pure economic freedom and individual liberty who are dangerous for the society.
(I know it's certainly my fault for the misunderstanding, i can't sometimes explain me propelry)
>>76391170
Oh look an Italian Fascist, What's next a Russian Commie? Big Government interferes in the daily lives of its citizens and you have the freedom to travel you just have to go through border checks and make sure the country you're are going to needs or wants you.
>>76391460
But in a free society, who are you to determine who can do what?
>>76391526
Who is going to help you when your freedoms get infringed upon? The government. And border checks impair on freedom to travel as much as a permit infringes on one's right to bear arms
>itt Iceland desperately tries to be cool
>>76391432
People can't integrate if they come migrate in the masses. It also harms the job chances of low skill British workers due to the overabundance of workers in the job market
>>76391170
>you need to sacrifice some freedoms to the big government so you can have these bigger freedoms
>but sacrificing some freedoms of other people to come in(borders) isn't okay that's not going to help secure freedom
you're contradicting yourself in the same post m8
>>76387095
>implying America didn't already experiment with a Laissez Faire business policy and restrictive borders
What even is the post-Civil War if not precisely that?
>>76391652
I support gun rights and border controls. I'm not an Anarchist or a pure LIbertarian. Government has a role in society just not an all seeing, all knowing, powerful super state.
>>76391566
It's not a free society, people can leave if they want more liberty.
Moral law value are above the citizen.
I'm not a libertarian at all if it's not clear
>>76391717
But you're removing freedoms
>>76387607
Link pls
>freedom = open borders meme
/pol/ is hitting new lows
>>76391795
How can you enjoy freedoms if terrorists are blowing you up 24/7? How can you enjoy freedoms if you can't move freely?
>>76391834
So if you're allowed to enforce morality on the people, why cant I enforce what I like in my fascist country?
>>76391860
I'M NOT A PURE LIBERTARIAN FFS HOW IS IT SO HARD TO GET THAT YOU AUSTRALIAN FASCIST!?
>Cherrypicking ugly libertarians (from the Libertarian Party, which is predominately statist, I should add)
Not that the appearance of an ideology's believers should impact your opinion of it. That's behaviour more appropriate of teenage girls.
>>76385921
Respek
also loo
>>76391979
So you have fascist elements?
>>76391900
I know right. That's like me saying if you like goverment you're literally a Fascist
>>76391929
You can move freely. It's better than having police everywhere "papers, please".
>>76391929
I agree, how can you enjoy freedoms if terrorists are free to enter your state and then blow you up 24/7?
>>76392018
No. Being Pro Border Control isn't fascist.
>>76392093
>what is a passport?
>>76387130
>muh utopia
>>76388504
Yes, but you're forgetting libertarianism is literally 100% lawless anarchy
>>76392135
Regardless, it's incompatible with liberty.
>>76392227
Anarchy and LIbertarianism are completely different.
>>76392256
Don't care borders are a must
>>76387415
If the movement of labor is restricted in any way then you don't have a free market.
>>76391170
>freedom
>big state/government
Nigger what are you even saying
>>76392093
>>76392114
The "paper, please" part only comes in when you start doing suspicious shit that could harm someone else freedoms.
You really think a bunch of loosely related private intelligence firm could possibly keep tabs on potential terrorists as good as a government's intelligence services?
>>76391025
[Citation needed]
>>76388405
Really trying to find source for this but i'm getting nothing, could a brother get some help?
>>76392352
It's suicide - by Kys
>>76385960
Summer fags
>>76392327
I don't know. They seem to be doing pretty well tracking credit scores.
>>76392227
>>76388504
Somalia has polycentric law. Their system is a rudimentary form of what would exist in Ancapistan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer
>>76392322
bismarkian germany was a dictatorships yet it's inhabitants had more freedom than anywhere.
modern britain and germany are democracies yet people have relatively little freedom.
>>76392413
Hm.
I got some reading to do.
>>76387095
National Libertarianism allows for borders. Reduce the internal power and influence of government as much as possible while recognizing that other countries and people might not be interested in playing the same game, so the national government leverages the strength of a nation to secure that country's interests on a global scale and counter any foreign hostility, be it military or economic.
Guaranteed liberty for those inside, business as usual outside.
>>76392378
Yes but for real, my friendly neighbourhood rapist
>>76385773
I love how disgusted with the world Evola looks in that pic kek
>>76392401
Credit scores of entire states that willingly release information.
But what happened in Greece? The government tricked the results so the companies gave them a good score when it wasn't deserved.
>>76392227
I don't think you realize how Somalia became a shithole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Democratic_Republic
>>76387095
>Can't. Libertarianism requires open borders for a free market.
Nah, it requires free trade not open borders.
>>76392327
If the government can't enforce terrorists not coming into your country to blow you up then they're not able to secure your freedom of safety.
If the government can do that then they're not able to secure the freedom of open borders.
If the borders are truly open then terrorists are easily able to enter and threaten your safety.
In a society with the possibility of terrorism(today's) you need to compromise and in your initial post you said that compromising open borders was incompatible with freedom.
>>76392706
Free trade necessitates the free movement of labor. Is labor cannot move from place to place without restriction then the market is still controlled and not free.
>>76392832
And why must the "open borders" issue be the one where a compromise is reached?
>>76392413
The issue there is stability. The dictator guarantees the freedom until he doesn't anymore (a successor perhaps) then you need to overthrow the whole thing.
At least then you know who to blame I suppose, but I would prefer a more stable system with checks and balances to prevent the need for revolution.
>>76392413
Bismarckian Germany was a constitutional/parliamentary monarchy actually, Bismarck found himself at odds with both conservatives and liberals in parliament over the course of his career
>>76392227
Libertarians isnt a form of government but only the desire to have as few lws as possible.
>>76392303
i think it would be better to stop viewing humans as labour.
>>76392502
THIS GUY GETS IT
Lolbitarians are the worst
>>76393247
That's how capitalism works friend.
>>76391992
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>>76392924
Doesn't work with absolute libertarianism, but how about this?
It is possible to practice free trade while still prohibiting some products, such as drugs (not saying this particular example is right, but you can). If you accept this, then you can ban people on the same grounds that they cause negative externalities. Free movement of labor can only be accomplished if you avoid these banned goods, and the only way to do this is to have the Mexicans and POOs telecommute.
>>76391992
>Not that the appearance of an ideology's believers should impact your opinion of it.
This is what ugly inbred beady-eyed yellow-teethed islanders actually believe
>>76393906
Ban this, ban that, it's just blindfolding yourself.
>>76392946
Because otherwise safety is where the compromise is reached. When you already live in a society, having non-open borders is less freedom-restricting than terrorists ending your life. It's pretty funny that you didn't even think of that considering you mentioned it in a previous post.
>>76395436
But you can have open borders AND a strong state stopping terrorists from infringing on your freedoms. How hard is it to understand?
>>76395707
You live closer to a multitude of real world counterexamples to your hypothetical than I do, my friend.
Daily reminder that Somalia is better than most of Africa.
>>76397664
>roads argument
Sure is /pol/ here.
>>76394309
>Underestimating how visual human beings really are
>>76398920
baldlord
>>76385773
Evola was explicitly anti-nationalism. All reactionaries are.
>>76392352
AkaRiot
>>76386130
>>76387231
>>76387607
WOW WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
When you have to resort to feminist arguments you already lost
>>76386890
If you cant make wealth you dont deserve wealth its that simple
>>76401030
>muh survival of the fittest
>>76387231
you are a retard i really hope you will see this one day
>>76401456
Do you think people are uncapable of charity and caring about the disadvantaged unless threatened jail?
>>76385773
George Lincoln Rockwell, a American National Socialist but together with a bunch of alt-right faggots. You ought to be shot for doing this.
>>76385773
bump
>>76401771
Incapable no. willing to? most definitely not. Charity's today are largely used as a tax write off
>We need the government to provide necessary things for society
>People are incapable of obtaining things that are necessary for survival on their own
It is no wonder the statist logic has to resort to ad hominem and straw men
>>76404056
Speak for yourself?
>>76391885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Nad1b_3yY
Read Nassim Taleb, Walter Block for your Redpill on "Libertarianism". They are Libertarians but see how much of modern Libertarian ideology has been co-opted by Kochs and other Globalists to push their agenda
>>76385773
sage
kys
>>76407256
>>76407220
he's right you know
>>76405902
Dat nigga kawaii af
I thought libertarians are basically along both sides, like a centrist?
What do they basically believe in?
>>76407525
Minimal government. Don't tax much, don't legislate much, don't provide many services and don't interfere in social issues.
>>76388858
Not REAL fascism. Jews ruined it
>>76407525
>What do they basically believe in?
It's like asking a polygender demikin what the fuck they are.
It changes day to day.
>>76407525
If it dosnt hurt me directly or take my money its legal.
>>76407525
basically less/no government power/involvement in the economy/society
>>76385773
Technically, I am libertarian leaning, but I disagree with a lot of the typical fundamental arguments and tenants of libertarianism (muh NAP). Plus, many libertarians tend to be stupidly purist or "feelsy."
>>76386130
Starving a your child actually is a violation of the NAP though.
>>76385773
Why do Authoritarian Nationalists look creepily the same?
>>76408005
Reproduction is a violation of the NAP, as """"""""""""""your"""""""""""""" child did not consent to existence and the suffering that it entails
>>76385773
>Trump
>Evola
>Nationalist
Pick one
>>76407519
Not a libertarian but this one is out of context, the king one above is good. but don't take partial quotes/ makes you look like occupy memes or w.e that shit is
praxeology is the idea that humans do things with a purpose. hence aspects of historical financial decisions can be looked at in regard to their intended purpose & desired outcome, comparatively to the actual outcome.
>>76406329
government is not a person
>>76387795
I seriously don't know why nobody understands this?
>>76387795
>>76408375
It's because you guys are both dumbasses that don't understand economics. The US has much higher wages and much more economic opportunity than Mexico. That means that dumb spics will migrate here for jobs anyway and continue to depress wages. Fuck, it's not that hard to understand.
>>76388405
Somalia is a failed Socialist state ffs.
Also niggers.
>>76408331
Try reading it a bit closer, my toilet-scrubbing friend.
>>76408605
What you linked is a argument against a government
>>76408375
Because nobody buys it you goddamn race traitor globalist nation-wrecking cuckold piece of shit.
"Shitskins are only attracted by welfare" is a fucking meme invented by you retards to window dress your open borders position. They mainly come because of opportunities. If there's a job waiting for them in the US while they're sitting in some 3rd world shithole obviously they are going to come.
So when Schlomo Shekelstein decides to replace his entire workforce with shitskins that work for cheaper than whitey, and all his Goldberg brothers do the same, you are basically replacing the population of the nation.
>he's a kool aid drinking statist sheep and he's calling anyone else a cuck
Getting real fucking sick of you alt right fedoras
>>76408752
Look up a map of welfare benefits vs number of refugees
>>76408961
Of course, refugees would go to places with the most welfare. That doesn't fucking matter in the case of the US vs Mexico. There's only one place to go.
You guys really need to leave soon
>>76386292
This guy would literally be like Trudeau if he got voted in. Maybe we could form a weed coalition
>>76408556
It's not welfare. It's the quality of life. Don't wetbacks flood into your state as we speak? They are coming to steal the low-wage jobs from the poor Americans.
And that's exactly how you want it. Libertarians want the freedom to import a million of chinese farmers to make them sew shoes for food and clothing.
>>76409189
No
>>76409189
I could see it. He's already all in with the racist meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_T5-KEkYNI
>>76408249
Okay then NAP is utter bullshit as there is no way to not violate it, so stop using it faggot.
>>76408556
>>76408752
>other races and cultures have the same work ethic and skill levels
Okay faggots.
>>76409609
Taxes violate the NAP?
>>76409779
Nobody said that and that doesn't fucking matter. More labor supply = lower wages. Economics 101 right there. I don't want our workers being hurt at the expense of foreigners. It's just that simple. America first.
>>76385773
a few years ago calling 'libertarians' authoritarian nationalists was a major offense to /pol/
that's what they were
frauds and liars
but whatever spergs will spergs
eagerly awaiting foetal selection
>>76409945
>Nobody said that and that doesn't fucking matter. More labor supply = lower wages.
You nullified your own argument shitstain. If you import a bunch of unqualified labor, than you've imported no labor at all. Fucking retard.
>>76409889
Well according to >>76408249 NAP is impossible not to violate so what does it matter?
>>76410286
>what is unskilled labor
lolbertarians at it again
>>76385773
Did the fat fuck actually strip all the way? Because it's kind of more pathetic to do it just down to your briefs. If you're going to do it, do it, expose yourself. None of this technically still clothed bullshit.
If people don't like their government than they should vote in a new one or make your own to compete. If everyone in the USSR took their votes elsewhere than the country would be better. That's just the free market.
>>76410563
Okay that goes back to work ethic, culture, language, all these other variables. In many cases the lower bid will take the job, but not in every.
Why is that a bad thing anyway? Wages can only be as low as the cost of living in that area will dictate. Unlike what we currently have in the US with minimum wage which doesn't take any local living costs into consideration and people depend on handouts from the government to survive.
>>76411000
Why are you people so autistic? We have our own native unskilled labor. Half of the population is below 100 IQ. We don't need anymore. Americans are more important to me than foreigners. Jesus christ. If you just don't give a fuck about anyone, then just say it.
>>76411133
Yeah and those people can't get jobs because of wage controls and foreigners end up with the jobs anyway.
>>76411681
So let me get this straight. In your libertarian utopia, you would open the border to a flood of unskilled labor, but get rid of all wages so that we can all compete for slave wages. Wonderful. Again. More labor supply = lower wages.
>>76410828
>vote
Quit putin us on
>>76410416
Making robotic life violates the NAP against God. Obviously you have to hope your kindergarten/harlem has a pregnancy contract and you have a contractable private police force to ensure theyll give you the kids born on your property. Or else you might run out of heroin pushers that are happy to work for your Somalian wages
>>76408954
Only fedoras use the word statist unironically.
Btw......Unless your a batshit insane anarchist you *are* a statist. Libertarians ARE statists.
>>76406329
also government portrays themself as not selfish.
Its one thing to be selfish, but another ting to be selfish but pretend to be not
>>76407323
child brothels would be against the nap
>>76412742
Wow fuck off
>>76410416
Certain things don't violate NAP
>Driving drunk down the highway the wrong way (just don't hit anybody)
>Watching child porn
>Bringing a bomb to events that have large crowds of people (don't set it off)
>Letting your child starve to death
The NAP is the best moral system deduced by man.
>>76412742
Not if the child consents, statist boot licker.
>>76413299
why would a child work in a brothel though giving his money to a pimp? the child could also work independent and would likely make more money.
>>76412175
Yes, all people of the world will live in one geographic area and compete for the same wages. Because all cultures and customs are the same so why not? Just like they do now right?
>>76414016
What? You are the one advocating for open borders here not me.
>>76413153
I'm not saying it's all bad at all. Literally every philosophical answer to morality is fucking stupid though because they try to make it universal, which is impossible.
>>76414155
Open boarders doesn't imply all the worlds people live in the same place. That would mean no geographical area has a niche over others.
>>76413153
>Driving drunk down the highway the wrong way (just don't hit anybody)
Highway would be privatley owned if you want to use it you would have to sign a voluntary contract which could define certain rules, if you infringe the contract you can be banned or violently removed from the road.
>Watching child porn
Yeah nobody gets hurt while watching dont know what the problem should be
>Bringing a bomb to events that have large crowds of people (don't set it off)
Again the event would be held on somebodys private property, contract could define certain rules(like not being allowed to bring in certain items like a bomb) if you infringe them you would just not be allowed in.
>Letting your child starve to death
Is ok too, but goes against your own self-interest -> having a kid is a huge investment just letting it die would be pretty contradicting -> why even having a baby in the first place
>>76414285
You're being obtuse, thick-headed and arguing a strawman. People from Mexico would move to the US in an open border scenario for economic opportunity. That would be bad and drive down wages for Americans. I don't care about dumb spics; I care about Americans.
>>76413153
1. if somebody has to elude the drunk driver, the nap is violated
2. nothing wrong with that, producing it is a crime though
3. the operator can ban people that bring bomb to events,
4. if the parents provide food and the child doesnt eat, its the childs fault. if the parents dont provide food, its the parents fault.
about the nap, children should have extra protective rigths as they are dependent on parents.
>>76414458
Americans won't hire Mexicans over other Americans if they can pay Americans the same wages. Americans currently cannot pay other Americans lower wages because of minimum wage.
>>76407406
that's basically what happened historically though, at the level of the feudal aristocracy
then the king took all power from the nobles, and the bourgeois all power from the king, and that's where we are
>>76414643
>Americans won't hire Mexicans over other Americans if they can pay Americans the same wages.
Nobody here is that prejudice. More available labor means lower wages. I don't want lower wages for Americans, and I don't care about your libertarian fantasies.
>>76414825
Okay but Americans are already being cut out of the work force via illegal workers. Like it or not people already react to incentives.
>>76385773
Who else here /moderatelibertarian/
statist butthurt is pathetic, if you nazis were smart you would vote arch cap and make your own white only people village or some shit.
>>76414951
That's why we need STRICTER immigration control. Not a lolbertarian fantasy of open borders. I agree with getting rid of the welfare state, but that's not going to fucking happen and that alone won't help.
>>76415201
>Not a lolbertarian fantasy of open borders.
libertarians believe in law, I think it depends on the person but I for one am not a open border degenerate. also I think that immigration policies should be decided by a referendum.
>>76415201
>I agree with getting rid of the welfare state, but that's not going to fucking happen and that alone won't help.
That's where you're wrong. America didn't have minimum wage or welfare in the beginning and the only people who could handle the cutthroat competition of this country could stay and skillless fuckwits don't define a country or its culture.
>>76388858
>Spain
>fascist
You are retarded.
>>76415699
In the 1920s, Calivn Coolidge signed the toughest immigration laws in the country and that was one of the best decisions we ever made. We kept a strict quota on the amount of immigrants which kept our culture in tact and allowed the labor force to prosper. Getting rid of it in 1965 was one of the biggest mistakes the country ever made. Technology has made the world more globalized and you can't change that. That's why we need strict immigration again to keep people out and retain our culture.
>>76416075
>Getting rid of it in 1965 was one of the biggest mistakes the country ever made
>1965 was one of the biggest mistakes the country ever made
ftfy
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1465247581830.webm
>>76385773
>He hasn't realized that lebertarianism is the best ploitical strategy yet.
Libertarianism with governmental shit like
Police, Medics, Waste collection, trash collection included would be amazing.
>>76385773
not an argument
>>76393658
Wrong side of Lancaster, you daft yank of 60% body fat.
>>76388060
this is the correct answer
common ways to defeat this thread:
ron paul did not run on the L ticket nor did rand, yet everyone knows they are more libertarian than anyone in the L party
donald trump did not make his money through taxes but from voluntary association
libertarians do not HAVE to advocate open borders, instead waiting for the welfare state to be demolished first
>>76388847
are you really going to pretend maine and Missouri do not exist?
do you even know what went down there
>>76418204
pffffffffffffffffft
>>76407220
>>76407256
>>76407318
remember when germany took over africa and shut down all their rape towns and heroin towns and forced businesses to pay higher wages?
me either
guess statism just proved a failure
>>76420267
Africa was a million times better off under colonial rule.
Are all libertarians like those disgusting sovereign citizens that speak gibberish to be a general nuisanse?
Gosh I am glad that Libertarian shills have vanished.
>>76420843
Roads?
libertarianism would be great we first just need to remove degenerates, jews, non-whites etc. natsoc was NEVER supposed to be an end, it was a means to an end, obviously less government intervention in the long run is ideal.
>>76385773
fuck tards don't understand the real magic america was founded on. States rights.
>>76408005
no is not you fucking mongoloid, it is assumed you would take care of your flesh and blood but there is no obligation
>>76421418
We're quite far from any * end *, so we need the means right now.
When did you grow out of your Libertarian phase?
17
>>76385773
the founding fathers of america were libertarians.
the america of today is run by oligarchs and nazis whining about not being nazi.
you people are schizo, no wonder you're going extinct. like the dinosaur or something, lol. fuckin stupid...
