Currently in the French-speaking socialist part of Belgium:
>1 in 5 children in Wallonia lives in a household where nobody works
>1 in 4 children in Brussels lives in a household where nobody works
Meanwhile in Flanders:
>1 in 15 children in Flanders lives in a household where nobody works
SOCIALISM BTFO
FRANCOPHONES BTFO
REMOVE CROISSANT
>>76367566
greater netherlands when?
>>76367566
You have a bigger problem with kebab than croissant. Go reclaim Molenbeek for yourself and the rest of Europe.
Some background info:
Belgium =
>Flanders (6 million people)
+
>Wallonia (3,5 million people)
+
>Brussels (1 million people)
Wallonia + Brussels are French-speaking, and much more leftist/socialist than Flanders.
Wallonia + Brussels were the home of the French-speaking elite during the industrial revolution, but heavy industry has gradually shut down during the mid-20th century.
Because of socialist promises and hand-outs, Wallonia + Brussels remained stuck in the infinite socialist loop of "WORK IS GONE, GIB FREE MONEY" to this day.
>>76367729
The kebab problem is tied with the croissant problem.
First we take on the croissant (and the socialists in general), only then can we start to take on the kebab.
Did you know that Brussels ("Broekzele") used to be a Flemish city until very recently?
The Francophones pulled all kinds of tricks to turn it into a French city, and one of the things they did was attract masses of (French-speaking) Moroccans to help outnumber the Flemish.
>>76367708
I like that part of French Flanders is included.
Reminder that the Francophones LITERALLY want lebensraum from the Flemish.
They keep moving into Flemish towns, refuse to learn Flemish, and then claim those towns for Wallonia as soon as they make up the majority of residents.
>>76367929
Why are French so obnoxious?
>>76368197
Because we let them.
>>76367566
Brussels ;
1/5 is Muslim
2/3 of the births are foreigners
Nuke us, please.
where da flemish womyn at
>>76368757
>1/5 is Muslim
1/4 according to a prominent leftist sociologist.
>>76368758
Go look for Achmedina instead.
>>76368757
I saw a news article stating that there is no ability for any further Muslim immigration to your country to be absorbed.
Any Muslims that come will nit become more like a Belgian. That's kind of scary.
>>76369171
A lot of the ones that came here in the 60s are still 99% culturally Moroccan/Turkish.
>>76367708
It has to happen! I have been longing for this day for 26 years now.
>>76367566
Why do all francophone countries get so fucked up by socialism? Why do we vote for them at all
Vlaanderen, keer terug bij de Verenigde Provincies!
>>76369255
Yeah, hadden ze zich maar beter aangepast, met italianen spanjaarden en polen was dit geen probleem.
>>76367566
Dutch annexation of Flanders when?
VLAANDEREN DE LEEUW!
>>76369465
Socialism is the kind of system that breeds a loyal following (they promise to gib money from da rich after all), but invariably is doomed to fail (people keep voting for more shit, even when there isn't any to go around).
Shit started in the 1800s when socialism was pretty much the only side that was of and for the workers, and it's very tough to get rid of because it's the most populist ideology imaginable.
Maybe you should stop discriminating and start giving francophones and immigrants a serious chance.
>>76369635
I get that but why do france, wallonia, french switzerland parts and in some measure Quebec enjoy the same cancer
It's like speaking french automatically makes you a fucking faggot
>wat waals is
>vals is
Kies allebei
>>76369896
In Belgium it has a lot to do with the sense of superiority they feel from simply speaking French, because muh history.
Little do they know that "French" and "France" literally got the name from the Franks, the Germanic people who conquered and shaped modern Europe starting in FLANDERS with Clovis I.
>>76367708
>>76367566
I'm all for this, but can we keep the clay?
If we flatten all the dilapidated buildings and industry, it really is a beautiful bit of nature.
>>76368197
France is what happens when you divorce a once great Germanic people from the awesome glory of Germanic languages.
>>76370148
>In Belgium it has a lot to do with the sense of superiority they feel from simply speaking French, because muh history
Wtf do you really believe that bullshit ? It's like you don't already have enough bullets against us so you have to make shit up
>>76370478
Not only do I believe it, it's a fucking fact.
Translation:
>Tired of Flemish linguistic demands!
>Be modest, your language is very localized...
>>76367929
>The kebab problem is tied with the croissant problem
They are more sandniggers in Antwerpen than in Liege and Charleroi, our two biggest shitholes, combined.
Go get fucked Jan
>>76368197
But wait, it gets better.
From 1815, when the United Kingdom of the Netherlands established itself apart from the First French Empire, up until 1830 when the Belgian Revolution happened, the whole of our country was plagued by French insurgents and people with provocative agency about them, instigating riots and stoking the fires of malcontent.
They wanted Antwerp and Bruges for themselves, you see, and were not about to let the Dutch keep their hands on those, so they caused a civil war, and planted French aristocracy and bourgoisie at the helm of the new vassal state they were creating.
>>76367708
I wish thuis would happen soms day
>>76370648
Never said Flanders didn't have socialists.
Just far fewer of them.
>our two biggest shitholes
You forgot Brussels. Loul.
>>76370645
>Be modest, your language is very localized
Isn't that true ?
But I don't see why you make the deduction that because of this we have a smug sense of superiority. I've never met anybody in Wallonia who was particurlary proud of speaking french, and the actual old nationalist walloons "wallingants", speak walloon.
Still this protester is probably just a retarded PS drone
>>76370740
It's also pretty interesting to note that Flanders was doing swimmingly before the 1830 revolution.
Flanders relied heavily on textile industry, and a lot of the raw materials came from the Dutch colonial ports.
As soon as Belgium separated from the Netherlands in 1830, those ties with the colonial ports were severed, and Flanders became impoverished.
>>76370807
>You forgot Brussels. Loul.
It's a flemish city, you can have it my friend
>>76369768
How about you prove you're worthy of a chance by lifting Wallonia out of the dumps, you mongrel.
I mean, Wallonia crashed and crashed hard when the age of information replaced the age of industry. I get that. I respect that.
Flanders had nothing but flat, wide open space and a desire for modern infrastructure, so it was easier to build it there from scratch than it was to tear down Wallonia's aging infrastructure and then rebuild it.
It's rough, fuck, it damn near annihilated the region (barring specialized chem industry, but even that is failing).
But it's been well over 30 years. What you're asking us to do is the equivalent of asking Americans to give whatever pops its head out of Detroid a chance.
>>76370891
>Isn't that true ?
See?
You're so deep you don't even realize it.
Walloons draw a huge part of their superiority complex simply from the fact that they speak French.
>>76370999
>Brussels
>Flemish
Lmao.
>>76370648
>They are more sandniggers in Antwerpen t
yet when I walk in Antwerpen it's not as hit as Liege.
Hell there are more sandniggers in Amsterdam and Rotterdam than in Brussels and Liege and Charleroi yet they are the biggest shitholes in the Benelux
>>76371091
Because Dutch sounds like someone barfing in your ears.
Speaking french charms the ladies.
Speaking dutch gets you a paper bag.
>>76371255
Good thing Flemish doesn't sound anything like Dutch.
>>76370891
It's an old hurt, and one that fades slowly, even if it isn't relevant today.
It mostly has to do with the fact that the upper class of Belgium used to be francophone, the crown did not used to speak Dutch, the courts did not used to speak Dutch, the universities and colleges did not used to speak Dutch, the churches did not used to speak Dutch, etc., etc.
There was a more or less active attempt to segregate those who could not master French, and a great deal of superiority in those who could.
But now we're talking pre-WW2, it's just very hard to let go, especially since the last vestiges of this sort didn't disappear until the late 60s.
>>76371091
>You're so deep you don't even realize it.
Dutch is a local language compared to french, sorry that's a fact...But as I said in the rest of my post, I've yet to meet a walloon that takes pride in speaking french. I've yet to meet a proud walloon at all, they're really rare
Man, France would look kind of crappy with Wallonia added to it. It kinda looks like a star as it is.
>>76371395
Yes I know some flemish are still asshurt about that, but they should also keep in mind that pre-WW2, the main language of the commoners in Wallonia wasn't french either, it was walloon
>>76371543
>Dutch is a local language compared to french, sorry that's a fact..
Which is in any way relevant because...?
If anything, a language being very localized is a major reason to PRESERVE it, among others with the very same linguistic measures that make Walloons cry out in their sleep.
>>76371724
>Which is in any way relevant because...?
You tell me, you brought the subject
>shitting on walloons
Fuck you Belgium, you shouldnt even exist and I hope you fall apart.
Leave the Flanders alone and let them come to us like they want to, they dont want to be part of your rapefugees welcome shit.
Walloons are fucking disgusting because you made them that way and now you dont want to do anything with them.
NVA
V
A
>>76371799
Actually, this Walloon brought it up: >>76370645
>>76371717
Ah, Walloon. The Welsh of the mainland.
>>76371956
Anon, check yourself before you wreck yourself.
>>76372021
Excuse me?
>>76371852
>NVA
Opens their cheeks widely for whatever it is the EU wants, even as they propagate the idea that they want to seperate from Wallonia.
I repeat; the NVA is not Euroskeptic, and the EU will never allow confederalisation.
Where is Bruges at Flanders or Wallonia? Favourite fucking place in Europe, was so comfy and pretty.
>>76372048
You linked to a post you made, but I'll assume you wanted to link to the one you replied to, which is still the same guy you're talking to.
>>76372021
I think he was refering to the pic.
Anyway it's a pointless debate, I could also just turn around and say :
Hurr the main problem in belgium are the flemish and their smug sense of superiority because their language
>>76372098
N-VA is shit, that's a fact.
As soon as Merkel opened the floodgates, our N-VA minister of the interior (Francken) immediately pledged 600 million Euros to the refugee cause, and vowed to process 80 refugees per day (the maximum amount the administration could handle).
FFFFFUUUUUUUUCK n-va.
t. former n-va voter.
>>76372167
Flanders, most of the historically rich and pretty cities (Bruges, Antwerp, Mechelen, Kortijk, Gent, Leuven, etc.) are.
>>76372209
>main problem
I said "it has a lot to do with". And it does.
>>76372263
>minister of the interior (Francken)
Meant to say minister of migration and asylum.
>>76372263
>process 80 refugees per day
Correction: 250 per day.
http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20150902_01845767
VOAL MAKAKKE
>>76372362
>I said "it has a lot to do with". And it does.
How ? Why ?
I don't contest the fact that wallonia is a corrupt socialist shithole, but I don't see what it has to do with the fact we speak french. We could speak italian, or spanish, or still walloon and I don't see what difference it would make
>>76372526
it's common in francophone countries, i think our culture is probably rotten to the core
>>76372263
To be fair, though, I understand Francken's decision.
The fact that he did that will immediately instill within people the feeling of "we are already doing plenty, fuck off with your extra demands", and it did turn out that way. People actually took up the cry that we, as a country, can't do more.
He then went out of his way to expose the way the entire lot of them was trying to abuse the system by camping in Brussels, etc.
If he'd been competely opposed to the idea from the get go, people would've called him a monster and a nazi and demand that he do something, then go out and say he's not doing enough, again and again.
It's fucked up that we can't say no from the get go, but his decision certainly wasn't stupid, and he handled it better than a great deal of other people would have.
Still. EU has to go, fuck NVA.
>>76372526
Tons of Francophones move into Flanders and never bother to learn Flemish.
A large part of the reason why, is because they feel Flemish is a "peasant" language, or an "irrelevant" language; while they speak FRENCH, the language of Molière.
Deny it all you want, you're still a poopyhead.
>>76372098
>B-but, muh refugees
>P-please stay with us Vlaanderen
Geert is their only savior but what can you do, people there cant vote for him.
Belgium has no right to exist, give those walloons back to France and Vlaanderen back to us, tne rest can become a place to deport european muslims to since its a rundown bombing center anyway.
I hope IS bombs you faggots again but this time somewhere that hurts the economy a little more, you rats need to learn your place.
>>76372612
It was a massive cuck move.
We already have hundreds of thousands of Muslims, and they're not exactly doing well, even after more than 4 decades.
I tried to rationalize Francken's pro-refugee decisions too at first, but at some point you have to see the facts and admit that N-VA is just another globalist stooge party.
>>76367566
Either Flanders become independent or we get nation-wide federal level elections.
Socialists put your money where your mouth is: if Belgium has so much solidarity then surely we should have federal nation-wide elections. The Flemish can not punish the Walloon politicians and vice-versa, it is a basic need for democracy to be able to vote for anyone who can legislate.
The socialist power that be will never allow it because Belgium would turn liberal overnight.
>>76372692
Why does all these threads have some asshole autist dutchman pushing his shitty propaganda here ? Fuck off.
Us walloons and flemish might hate eachother, but we hate France and Netherlands more, republicans and protestants can right fuck off, you're not getting any clay
>>76372692
>people there cant vote for him.
A crime against humanity, that.
>>76372692
Also come back with your retarded mongrel Geert when he makes more than 10% of the vote
>>76372782
>nation-wide federal level elections
Pretty sure that would put the socialists firmly in power over the entire country.
N-VA may be the biggest party in Belgium, but only because the Flemish and Walloon socialists are divided into 2 parties.
Take the last federal elections:
- N-VA:
1.366.414 votes
- SPa + PS:
1.382.651 votes
The difference isn't that great, but still. The socialists were relegated to the opposition in that election. Godzijdank.
>>76367566
Did anyone ITT already gave an update about the brutal strikes in Wallonia?
>>76372894
A majority vote in Vlaanderen wants to come back to us, a majority vote walloons wants to make themselves and everyone else French, the only reason Belgium exists is to keep both from going their own way, which is why you shouldnt exist.
This is not about getting clay through propaganda, this is about saving our brothers being held captive by French scum and Belgians making it possible.
We can make vlaanderen great again because we have tons of money, theyre extremely redpilled people and can help us find our balls back.
Those socialist walloons can rot in hell together with the rest of the Belgiancucks, the netherlands and vlaanderen are eachother's greatest allies.
>>76370741
smae. I wihs this wuodl hapen soms day
>>76373277
BEER IS STILL PLENTIFUL, THE STRIKE CONTINUES COMRADES!!!
This is exactly what's wrong with socialism:
>times are good
>workers gain more economic benefits & privileges
>times are bad
>workers will shut down the entire country before they let go of a single economic benefit or privilege
what OP isn't saying is that Walloonia had all the political power before the 70's
and before that we were the poorer region of belgium.
so flanders complained and walloonia gave away certain political positions within the government out of goodwill.
the only reason flanders is now more productive is because walloonia gave us this chance, they weren't obliged to do so but did it anyway.
that being said, i want Dietsland!
>>76373229
>The socialists were relegated to the opposition in that election. Godzijdank.
I have cold sweats only trying to imagine what would've happened if Elio and his merry band of socialist butt pirates were still in charge during this whole muslim wave
>>76372996
He's quickly rising in popularity you idiot, look at recent charts, the change is starting here.
>>76373554
That's what I said, come back when you have something concrete, until then, fuck off
Daily reminder that Dutch is dead language.
Daily reminder that Belgium shouldn't exist.
Daily reminder that Brussels should be nuked.
Daily reminder that shitskins should be removed.
>>76373471
Flanders has been constantly injecting money into Wallonia for decades.
Back when Wallonia was richer, the Flemish either worked or died in the streets.
Wallonia simply won't grow because of socialism; they keep voting for the people who promise them free money.
>>76373508
Honestly, I don't think they would've handled it any worse than Francken (N-VA) did.
250 asylum seekers processed per day. Thanks Francken.
>>76373592
yep, i know.
fucking walloons got us good
>>76373587
>>76373585
We will set everything up, you make sure you start rioting for independence and thenGeert will come save you all from those shitskin Walloons.
>Dutch is a dead language
Last time I heard all of you speak a distant version of ours faggot.
>>76367729
>Go reclaim Molenbeek for yourself and the rest of Europe.
My litmus thest for whether Western Europe is serious about fixing the immigration problem is whether Belgium would be prepared to use NATO troops to "Take Back Molenbeek", which is also the title of my new movie.
>>76369483
Ja, hätten die sich mal besser angepasst. Mit Italiern, Spaniern und Polen war das kein Problem.
Have I understood that correctly?
>>76373790
>Belgium
>Doing anything nationalist with those Socialist walloons attached to them
They dont want to fight their own people Ameribro.
>>76373790
Belgians would LITERALLY rather risk having a confirmed terrorist walk free than actually crack down on places like Molenbeek.
I mean, what if someone calls us r-r-r-r-RACISTS????!!?!?
>>76373769
I, for one, speak French : )
>>76373950
Das ist richtig Opa, now come occupy us again so we kill some socialists together.
>>76373471
Wallonia is poor because foreign investors saw more benefit in Flanders, it's as simple as that.
Wallonia needed an overhaul, Flanders was a new beginning.
>Wallonia gave away certain political positions out of goodwill
That's an odd way of saying they caved because of riots and threats thereof.
This is my favorite kind of thread on /pol/.
Get to learn firsthand about the frictions between walloons and frenchies that I've only read about.
I'd really like to see a turk vs greek thread over Cyprus, but I don't think either side really cares anymore.
Except for those guys who re-upload porn videos with titles like "Cypriot whore learns power of turkish dick".
I just hope all you idiots who voted N-VA learned your lesson. Also don't forget that many of Vlaams Belang switched to N-VA several years ago.
There is and never was a real nationalist party in belgium.
>>76373403
This is exactly what's wrong with capitalism:
>times are good
>owners gain more economic benefits & privileges
>times are bad
>owners will shut down the entire country before they let go of a single economic benefit or privilege
BTW, I'm not defending "socialism"; I'm merely destroying your non-argument.
Society isn't a bi-polar construct.
Anon, sorry to break this to you, Flanders is more socialist than a barrel of Lenins.
>>76373769
>thenGeert will come save you all from those shitskin Walloons.
Recent numbers show you have more sandniggers per capita in vlanderen and netherlands than wallonia. Geert himself is half shitskin, what do you don't understand when I tell you to fuck of ?
>Wallonia is poor because foreign investors saw more benefit in Flanders, it's as simple as that.
Wallonia needed an overhaul, Flanders was a new beginning
Don't forget Flanders also had a quick rebound post WW2 because Antwerpen was one of the only harbors in Western Europe than wasn't bombed to rubbles
>>76371665
it's not like we want them anyways, we already have nord-pas-de-calais, land of the inbred low skill worker, we don't need another one like this
>>76374233
>owners will shut down the entire country before they let go of a single economic benefit or privilege
Lol no they don't.
They downsize and do everything they can to ensure the company survives in some way.
Or if the "bad times" are purely due to country-specific bullshit (like rising wage costs), they'll move the fuck away.
>>76374247
During the last federal election, a right-wing Flemish nationalist party got about the same amount of votes as the Flemish and Walloon socialists combined.
>>76369768
Let me guess, Liege, Mons or Charleroi?
>>76374022
I already established that Walloon, fuck off to France and nigger it up there.
Even my french grandmother adopted by rich Dutch people spoke Dutch until the day she died, why cant you?
>>76374354
>a right-wing Flemish nationalist party got about the same amount of votes as the Flemish and Walloon socialists combined.
What is socialism, my friend?
If I tell you I'm a right-wing nationalist and institute a progressive tax, government subsidized housing, subsidies for education, high salaries for teachers, whatever the fuck have you, what am I? A right-wing nationalist or a pure socialist?
>>76374434
Ya, I know our "right wing" isn't all that right-wing.
Not even VB is right-wing.
But we're talking Europe here.
>>76374009
>Belgians would LITERALLY rather risk having a confirmed terrorist walk free than actually crack down on places like Molenbeek.
The other day I enjoyed watching a YouTube video of Geert Wilders excoriating the Belgians and the residents of Molenbeek for letting one of the Paris attackers roam free in this No-Go zone for months, ordering pizzas and regularly strolling past the police station at will.
>>76374309
>more sandniggers per capita
While this is appaling, there's something to be said about the fact that less of those shitskins are either gibmedats or terrorists.
>>76374309
We have more sandniggers now, but a great-Netherlands alliance can work together to take back what is ours.
And Walloons arent just shitskins, tons of other immigranta reside there too.
>>76374309
>Don't forget Flanders also had a quick rebound post WW2 because Antwerpen was one of the only harbors in Western Europe than wasn't bombed to rubbles
And that, of course. Somehow managed to keep that to be number 2 in Europe to this day.
>>76374524
Its not that your parties aren't right-wing, its that Belgium is the most socialist country I have ever seen. I live in Flanders, I used to live behind the iron curtain once upon a time (don't get your panties in a bunch, I work and am married to a Flemish lady) and I can safely say that you are about as socialist as my officially communist home country.
That said, Wallonia is most definitely not poor because of "socialism" and you are most definitely not ok because of "not socialism". Socialism as a concept has benefitted you. So don't be an American who says socialism is the root of all evil and the cause of anything bad in the world and try to be a little smarter.
>>76374582
As always, Geert was right on the money.
There were tons of rumors that he was still in Molenbeek or any other Muslim enclave in Brussels; and even if there weren't, authorities pretty much had the obligation to crack down on these areas simply because that's where he was from.
But they didn't.
>>76374687
Signed, a Socialist
>>76374319
>we already have nord-pas-de-calais
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg
>>76374357
as far as I am concerned it's called, Lüttich
>>76374687
If you think Flanders is socialist, you haven't been to Wallonia yet.
Flanders follows the Rhineland model; Wallonia is full-on socialist.
It's almost gotten to the point of feudalism over there; like in Charleroi where government jobs are almost the only type of employment left, since there is zero incentive to work for private companies (free benefits).
>>76374582
What scares me most is that none of that leaked until he was arrested.
People were, rightfully, in an uproar that that was somehow possible, but they somehow failed to connect the dots that if that man could do that, for that stint to be possible, -every single person there- had to agree with what he had done.
I'm just waiting for the day the police comes out to confess there's jihadis among their own ranks.
>>76374732
20 years living among you people and I will still never understand how you can be so ridiculously oblivious and narrow-minded and not be pure 3rd world by now.
Here's a hint by the way, Geert isn't going to save you, because it's your mentality that's cucking you and its the reason you have more shitskins per capita than most other European countries.
And it's going to get worse.
>>76374833
Flanders is nearly communist.
Wallonia is just a very bad, ineffective kind of socialism that is just not very well thought out.
It's purely that one is intelligent, the other isn't. Flanders has a system and an economy that can sustain heavy socialism. Not to mention the people can (I won't get into detail here, most people don't accept my views of national mentality, attitude, traditions and all and economics). It was also done intelligently, although now it needs a little revamp. Whereas in Wallonia it's practically like France right now. The economy can no longer sustain socialism, the people twist it and it's done stupidly so that it ends up destroying the country.
Again, the concept is the same, the implementation and circumstances are different.
>>76374892
>Muslim area in Belgium becomes famous as a no-go area that spawns jihadists
>Belgium responds by not doing anything about said area
Belgium.
>>76367566
>belgium
>a real country
Pick one
>>76375117
Isn't it around lunch time? It's too early for you to be awake.
>>76375029
>Flanders is nearly communist.
Look up the Rhineland model.
If Flanders weren't tied to Wallonia, we would not nearly have the kind of socialist influence we have now.
May I remind you that the socialists in Belgium had been in power for 25 years without interruption until 2014?
Socialists in Flanders (+ greens): about 23%
Socialists in Belgium (+greens): about 30%
Socialists combined are the biggest political faction in Belgium.
>>76375029
Wallonia is far worse off than Flanders. Take a look at the current strikes for instance: they are all centered down south
>>76375230
You're really mistaking what my point is.
>>76374892
>every single person there- had to agree with what he had done.
Why do you think Islamic terrorism, as opposed to any of the various national independence struggles, communist terrorism, etc, has survived so long?
ISIS is literally following the quaran, and there will never be an "islamic enlightenment" because the quaran is the DIRECT WORD OF GOD, completely free of human error, unlike any religion comparable in size.
Muslims will always self-radicalize and they should not be allowed out of their awful countries.
I really like Belgian beer btw, you guys really punch above your weight.
>>76375261
>Wallonia is far worse off than Flanders
I literally said that in the post you quoted.
>>76370999
Nah you stole it destroyed the Unique accent and replaced it with french speaking berbers.
T. Brusseleir
>>76375117
Please take back all the socialist italian gay scum diaspora infecting my country, thanks
>>76375282
No I'm not.
>>76374704
Do you think the last set of bombs in Brussels made a difference? If not, why not?
What are Belgians waiting for? 1,000 casualties? 10,000?
>>76375327
You really do need to realize that Wallonia is so shitty BECAUSE it's more socialist than Flanders.
>>76375117
>Italy
>Not a mafia-controlled failed state incapable of manufacturing anything more complicated than a jacket or a pair of shoes
>Not the main entrypoint for muslim "refugees" because mafia is perfectly happy to destroy their country as long as there's money in it
Your beer sucks and your food is incredibly overrated too.
>>76375387
No difference whatsoever.
#notallmuslims
#allwhiteracists
REMOVE CROISSANT
INDEPENDENCE FOR FLANDERS
THE SHIPPING INDUSTRY ALONE MAKES ENOUGH MONEY TO SUSTAIN FLANDERS
>>76374892
>People were, rightfully, in an uproar that that was somehow possible, but they somehow failed to connect the dots that if that man could do that, for that stint to be possible, -every single person there- had to agree with what he had done.
This is also for me the most disturbing lesson from the aftermath of the Paris attacks. The ghetto of Molenbeek stated quite clearly that is is NOT a part of Europe.
Therefore, it should not be treated like a part of Europe!
"Take Back Molenbeek!"
>>76375560
>"Take Back Molenbeek!"
The average cuck doesn't think we ever lost Molenbeek.
>>76375285
>you guys really punch above your weight.
Story of our lives.
If only that applied to dealing with terrorists.
2 moslims varen naar Antwerpen in een rubberbootje, de havenmeester merkt ze op en vraagt: "wat komen jullie doen?"
"Wij komen België overnemen in de naam van Allah!" schreeuwen de moslims.
De havenmeester kijkt verbaasd en vraagt: "met zijn tweetjes?"
"Nee, de rest is al hier."
>>76375387
>>76375461
Oh, it made a difference alright.
There's a whole slew of new laws being pushed through to combat terrorism, and protect the populace in case of the higher terror warning levels.
The only problem is those laws are extremely vague and can be abused to hell and back against anyone who happens to disagree too loudly with the government.
I have a feeling they're not going to be used against muslims.
>>76375416
No, the "amount" of socialism is something entirely subjective. And pretty much untrue.
See, you're looking at stupid socialist policies that don't fit the nation they are carried out in and saying they are "more socialist". While you look at still socialist policies that fit the place they are carried out in and saying they are "less socialist".
What you, much like all americans and it seems belgians, are doing, is simply equating socialism with "bad policy". Therefore I can't actually argue with you, because we both know for a fact Wallonia is worse and the argument of whether socialism is the reason becomes pointless since according to you "socialism" simply means bad policy.
Whereas the simple truth of the matter is that both Wallonia and Flanders are socialist (there is no "more" or "less", because that is only possible to measure once you think socialism means bad policy, so that whoever is poorer has more socialism) and in one of them that is possible and done well, in the other it is not and done badly.
>>76375826
>the "amount" of socialism is something entirely subjective
You can be more or less socialist, dude.
We're done talking.
>>76375560
People here genuinely believe it's not that bad and there was a Big backlash against Trump calling Brussels a shithole.
Even after the attacks they don't aknowledge the problems the City has most of em don't even come here but still say "it's not that bad and not all muslims blabla"
>>76375117
stop shitposting elio
>>76375705
Take heart Belgiumbro, the enemy gains strength by living in their ghettoes, but they are also trapped in one place, dependent on centralized services for food, utilities, etc
I pledge to buy belgian beer tomorrow and support you the only way I can.
>>76375868
>You can be more or less socialist, dude.
You can be, I can be.
A country and its policies? That's a whole different case.
Come on, give me an objective measurement of socialism in Flanders and Wallonia. Let's see what you got. I'll be here for a while, so you can take your time.
>>76375873
>Trump: "Brussels is a shithole due to immigration!"
>Belgians: "NUH-UH YOU BIG MEANIE"
>Brussels Muslims a few weeks later: "Allahu ackboom"
And still cucks gonna cuck.
>>76367566
>>76367708
>>76368108
>>76368197
>>76369541
>>76370148
>>76370472
>>76375525
>>76376035
Socialist parties in Flanders (+ greens): 23% of votes
Socialist parties in Wallonia (+ greens): 40% of votes
>>76376122
Protip: "Cassel" is a surname derived from the town Cassel, which used to be Kassel, a Flemish town with a Germanic name.
>>76376174
>Socialist parties in Wallonia (+ greens): 40% of votes
And this was a particularly bad year for the Walloon socialists.
>>76375873
>People here genuinely believe it's not that bad and there was a Big backlash against Trump calling Brussels a shithole.
Still...I wonder if deep down (WAY deep down, perhaps) your typical but educated indigenous citizen of Belgium must sense that things are fucked up...and getting worse, not better.
Does Belgium have its own version of Geert Wilders or Viktor Orbán? If not, go find him or her!
>>76369896
Because we have your TV channels and they spread your propaganda. Also, mentally damaged leftists from paris go in french-speaking lands because they can't speak anything else to save their life so we are the first one touched by your putrid communist evangelists.
And a lot of them come here to work, or at least pretend to work.
So you see, this isn't a french speaking problem per say, it's that french people actualy go to french speaking lands and considering you teached french to all the shitskins of africa they fucking come here.
The germans are begining to teach the turks so they will invade german-speaking switzerland soon.
>>76376309
yes they do and they're struggeling with a enormous cognitive dissonance
>>76367566
Why does Belgium exist, again?
Just cut it in half and give it to the corresponding nations.
>>76376333
I thought switzerland can't be invaded?
>>76376309
I don't know man.
They really believe that shit like misogyny and violence are individual vices, and not literally from the fucking Quran and ingrained into Islamic culture for 1500 years.
They think so little of their own Christian European culture, that they keep downplaying the extreme power human culture has overall.
>>76376309
>Does Belgium have its own version of Geert Wilders or Viktor Orbán?
We thought it would be Bart de Wever, but he was a sellout.
Vlaams Belang (the only remotely nationalist party now) is putting forward a new young gun as a face of the party after literal decades of an unappealing fart. It will do the party good, I'm sure, but I don't think he'll be an Orbán.
That said, yes, there is malcontent. Malcontent about the refugees, malcontent about the terrorists, malcontent about Brussels being our own Mos Eisley, malcontent about the EU.
Hell, I've caught shreds of conversations of every day normal people of varying ages saying they're worried for the future and feel unsafe in regards to the fugees, etc.
There's some light at the end of the tunnel. Just keep hoping that FB, Twitter and Google are ineffective at "banning hatespeech".
>>76370368
You can be like an independent province or something that gets to keep most of its own regulation and integrates over the years.
>>76376309
We had a Strong Anti islam party in the 90s that actually won the elections but walloons and minor flemish parties cucked them so hard it's practicly made illegal to have such views as a party.
And Yeah locals are very redpilled it's mostly students that are absolute scum. As someone born and raised in Brussels (Flemish) you get redpilled pretty fast
>>76371290
>Impying flemish is a language.
Kek.
>>76376579
Because France didn't want the Netherlands to have that much clay.
Also so France, Germany, Britain and the Netherlands had a stretch of neutral ground where they could duke it out.
>>76367778
Thank you for the clarification. I visited Brussels briefly. It was a good visit but I could tell something was off with the city. The people making my waffles on the street seemed genuine but one of them remarked to me "no one smiles here."
Anyway, I expected it to be a major socialist state because it's the head of the EU. Terrible... but god damn are the waffles good. I assume that guy who was working that waffle cart owned the cart and as a business owner myself, that will redpill you against socialism very quickly.
>>76369896
Because the patriarchal soul of the Gallic man has been crushed and replaced with l'état
>>76376791
We're also not France because the anglo's didn't want them to have an actually decent port (antwerp).
We're pretty much the toy of our neighbours
>>76376755
>Seperate words from Dutch
>Seperate proverbs
>Seperate idioms
>Seperate phonetics
I'm not saying it's of a level like Dutch-German or even Dutch-Afrikaans, but to pretend Flemish is the same as Dutch is straight retarded.
Why is Belgium even a country?
>>76376886
Brussels keeps denying its shittiness, and is now paying the price.
The constant denial allowed people to get poorer and radical islam to take root, and now the city of Brussels has seen extended lockdowns due to the terrorist threats and attacks.
The economic impact is tremendous.
And still Brussels will keep denying denying denying as they walk right off the fucking cliff.
>>76377036
the frogs and the brits
>>76376886
>"no one smiles here."
It's because nobody likes each other in this city the displaced Flemish are salty the massive walloon/french migration hates everyone, the muzzies obviously hate everyone aswell
>>76376979
The only true flemish is west-flemish. The language spoken at the first crusade, the language spoken when kicked the arses of the french knight and the language spoken when we stopped the kraut by opening our flood gates.
>>76375117
He's right, you french faggots
>>76376652
We are the only french speaking region not invaded by commies yet.
But we are slowly eroding because all the french speaking young swiss are exposed to french stuff trough television, facebook, etc...
Just imagine that in geneva you have more than 100 000 french people crossing the border to work every day, you have many french imigrating, you have the children of the frenchs becoming swiss and melding in.
All of that imposes french cultore uppon us wether we want it or not. And we are slowly stopping to differenciate between geneva culture, swiss culture, french culture.
And it's not necessery evil, we have a lot in common with the french people from savoie and haute savoie but we tend to absorb the negative parts of them and they absorb the negative parts of us. Why? It's the parts you see everyday and are encouraged by media.
Young people don't ever see the other side, the bright side, they see a coin with two tails and no fucking head.
>>76377036
France is the asshole of Europe
>>76376698
>There's some light at the end of the tunnel. Just keep hoping that FB, Twitter and Google are ineffective at "banning hatespeech".
We are smart. We'll figure out a way to publicly shame these companies and the government that are forcing them to do their bidding. We need to use their own tactics against them. I hope sites like this one and others (Gatestone Institute, GatesOfVienna, GermanImmigration.eu, and others) will help turn the tide of Die Lügenpresse once and for all.
>>76367708
fpbp
>>76376886
Owning your own business, especially a small one, is the fasted way to redpill. That's also probably why the socialist state here is so hellbent on fucking with small businesses
>>76377108
>west-flemish
You mean Best-Flemish.
It was also the language of Clovis I, the Frankish king who conquered Gaul and paved the way for Charlemagne and indeed Western Europe.
Clovis was born in Doornik, where proto-West-Flemish was spoken. Hell, neighboring Moeskroen was part of the province of West-Flanders until the 1960s.
>>76367566
>Walen continiously ruin Flanders.
>When Flanders hits back they are racist bigots.
Fuck the French.
>>76377224
>Owning your own business, especially a small one, is the fasted way to redpill.
This very much.
>>76376886
>it's the head of the EU
That's one of the greatest misconceptions foreigners seem to have.
Belgium, or at least, Belgians don't really have any traffic with the EU.
The EU has its HQ in Brussels, it's true, and Brussels houses all the embassies and diplomats and such, but Belgium has no fucking say. Where the EU is concerned, Belgium is about as significant as Ireland.
Sure, Belgium provided the first president, but that was more to placate a populace that is growing more euroskeptic as time passes, as a bone for housing them and in the hopes of instilling Belgian unity among Flemish and Walloons "Do you now see what we can achieve as Belgians?" (the EU is pretty fucking terrified of seperatist movements, it turns out).
There is talk of, over time, moving the whole of the EU's dealings away from Brussels (turns out not even they want to stay in the multicultural hell hole they created, even if they're protected by walls and security), our previous PM wanted to sell them on Mons to keep them in Belgium, but I gather the most likely contestant is Strasbourg, after which Belgium will fade into obscurity.
I will be endlessly happy when we aren't mentioned in the same breath as those cryptofascists anymore.
>>76367708
>>76377221
I'd be relatively okay with this be it not for the still relatively poor economy of the Northern half of Belgium.
Not even mentioning that we we'd be closer to jihadi's and Belgium has one of the most chanceless muslim scum hoods.
But overall it would still be relatively nice, but the more as a federation maybe.
>>76377315
This t b h, I get fucking angry when I hear foreign newspapers saying "Brussels did this, Brussels did that" while actually referring to the EU
>>76377108
>when kicked the arses of the french knight
And promptly proceeded to sell the plot of land (and all its inhabitants) your lords made you fight for int he months after the battle.
gg
>>76377094
>Brits support the independence of Belgium
>years later they mock Belgium of being a non country
>>76377351
>overall economy of Flanders
You do know the power projection that comes with owning both Rotterdam and Antwerp
>>76377351
>relatively poor economy of the Northern half of Belgium
The fuck are you talking about, the Flemish economy is a juggernaut.
>>76377531
And if anything it's being dragged down by Wallonia's insistence on socialism. It would flourish as part of the Netherlands.
>>76377351
Ben je stoned ofzo? Relatief arm topkek
>>76377568
Exactly. The Flemish economy is a powerhouse right now DESPITE the noodly appendage that is Wallonia.
Replace Wallonia with the Netherlands, and watch the Flemish economy grow exponentially due to improved trade and policies.
>>76377531
Woah now. Juggernaut with a limp. There's still Limburg, after all.
>>76377676
>watch the Flemish economy grow exponentially due to improved trade and policies
Not to mention the fact that we no longer have to pay millions each year into a bottomless pit.
>>76376174
Well I am a proto-turtle from the planet Kusjon.
Does that mean I am a proto-turtle from the planet Kusjon?
Further, does that mean my household is the household of a proto-turtle from the planet Kusjon?
>>76377737
Wadde?
>>76377678
>join the limburgs
>sell to Germany
>profit
>>76377676
>>76377729
Yes, Flanders and the Netherlands are doing universally good and there is nothing wrong with them.
Whatsoever.
>>76377781
He's saying just because something is called socialist doesn't mean it's socialist.
>>76377893
This.
>>76377893
No we're fucking awful and massive cryptojews.
Our only goal is to take Antwerp and make it even more jewish
>>76377729
>Not to mention the fact that we no longer have to pay millions each year into a bottomless pit.
Remember you keep us afloat because we also are your biggests customers. The govn't collect taxes for gibmedasts so we can buy from your businesses
>>76377893
Shhh Pierre, we're trying to sell ourselves to the Netherlands.
>>76374231
Misschien moet ome geertie even een afsplititsing voor Begië maken de PVVB, Partij van de Vrijheid België. Of PVVV, Partij van de Vrijheid Vlaanderen.
>>76377059
I was outside one of the larger cathedrals in the city. I forgot the name but your prince or somebody royal was married there. It was in the center of town. Anyway I could see the typical signs of parasitism outside. A park with weird modern art (that was tagged by criminals) and bums sleeping everywhere and smoking.
>>76377095
I thought it was the crushing socialism... but that makes sense as well.
>>76377224
>>76377314
Oh hell yea.
>>76377315
Let me clarify. I know it houses the EU HQ but I also know your small country doesn't have much pull. But you mentioned what I was going to say... the EU multi-culutural leftist bullshit seeped out of the HQ, Diplomats, embassies, etc and infected the city. Also isn't a large part of the Brussels population employed by the government? Government workers always support more socialism.
Not related, but I really liked your military museum. A country like yours that makes so many quality firearms should allow the populace to own them. I was disappointed I couldn't find any sort of gun for sale in Brussels.
>>76377936
How Keynesian.
>>76377915
This.
Plus just because you have less socialist parties doesn't mean jack shit about the state of the country. The current law framework around the Flanders economy is very socialist.
Whether there's a pure right-wing government in power or not that really doesn't impact on whether the state is socialist or not.
>>76377678
Haters gonna Hate
Limburg boven alles
> If we kick out those muslims migrants we'd have good local economy
> check out Maastricht
>>76377678
>>76377854
Limburg has some massive gas reserves let's just keep them for the national Parks atm
>>76377221
>jesse (snodneus) klaver verdwene :DDDD
>>76367566
>Flanders
>Not filled with muslims
Jan pls
>>76377936
>groot nederland gebeurt
>Walen verhongeren
Goed
>>76374905
Je moeder zal erger worden.
Kankerbelg.
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>>76377936
Flanders hardly produces anything anymore that you could buy, and you sure as fuck don't swarm our retail stores.
Also;
Speed cameras in Flanders: 1,326
Speed cameras in Wallonia: 230
But the proceeds from the speeding tickets are split 50/50 among Flanders and Wallonia.
Lol?
Lol.
>>76378111
>GREENED
>>76378046
+ limburg is the most comfy place in belgium
> late august those green bushes turn purple
>>76377221
ik ben zo out of touch met de Nederlandse politiek dat ik niet eens weet wie jesse klaver is
>>76378111
t. habsburg
>>76378078
Bought your copy of the Quran yet?
Prepared to deal with all the other cultures of the world who you will still not understand and will fuck up with, much like you've already done with mudslimes?
Being as narrow-minded as you people are has a price and you've only begun to pay it.
>>76369255
People don't assimilate when they are coming for money. What strange is the left don't even want people to assimilate, they want "multicuturalism"
>>76378233
Oh great minded being please bless upon me the knowledge of how narrow minded we are
Do explain yourself
>>76377996
>I could see the typical signs of parasitism outside. A park with weird modern art (that was tagged by criminals)
This one time I went to a little square in Brussels, a couple of blocks away from a brand-new fancy skyscraper they were building.
The buildings all around the square were new, there was a brand-new community center building in the middle (with busted windows), and there was dumb modern art right next to it.
Next thing you know I got swarmed by 13-y-o Muslim shits led by a couple of older Muslim shits all trying to mug me and steal my bike.
In broad daylight.
I don't even want to know what that entire social housing project for that little square cost, but I do know it's wasted money.
get comfy
>>76378180
Nederlandse Trudeau
>>76377996
>the EU multi-culutural leftist bullshit seeped out of the HQ, Diplomats, embassies, etc and infected the city. Also isn't a large part of the Brussels population employed by the government? Government workers always support more socialism.
Ah, I see. Well, it used to be heavily socialist. the Walloon socialists still hold the most seats in Brussels, in fact, it's just less than it used to be.
I'm not sure what you mean by saying you expected it to be a major socialist state, then.
If you were expecting Commiefornia levels of hipsters, that's mostly because Flemish are fairly introvert. We hardly ever let it all hang out, no matter our achievements.
As for the guns, I agree, it is a shame. You can get them, all quite legally, but you have to be prepared to jump through a great deal of hoops to get them, which turns off a lot of people.
It's sad, in the days of the Dutch Empire, one of Flanders' greatest forgotten exports was gunners.
>>76369896
Because you fucked up by essentially creating it with the revolution.
It's very hard for someone to turn on something they created. Like trying to get a mother to hate their child. Socialism is your child
>>76378124
>Speed cameras in Flanders: 1,326
Speed cameras in Wallonia: 230
Those numbers are bullshit, no way they are only 230 speed cameras in Wallonia, they're fucking everywhere.
>>76378351
Uncanny resemblance. wtf
>Groenlinks
I know enough
>>76377915
>>76378018
You:
>"Prove to me that Wallonia is more socialist than flanders."
Me:
>"Flanders: 23% socialist votes; Wallonia 40% socialist votes."
You:
>"Socialist doesn't mean socialist."
You are clearly a proponent of critical theory, and thus most likely a cultural Marxist.
>>76378163
>Scots don't know about mah fraoch
>>76378518
That's a lot of speed cameras for a country with third world roads.
>>76378590
Yeah,
try to read the papers though. This is just embarrassing. What I assume is a grown man, arguing on the internet about politics without the slightest idea what is going on in their own country.
>>76378180
Een 14-jarige halfmocro, vers van de mavo en nu al de baas van GroenLinks
>>76378322
You don't understand foreign cultures and you refuse to.
That's part of why you kept importing muslims and sorta letting them in, cheap labour. Thniking they'd integrate as a lower class.
Meanwhile you block and discriminate eastern european people.
The paradox of this is that most immigrants from eastern europe integrate well and immigrate in order to work. Mudslimes don't integrate, they're there for free money and they are only looking to bring their shitty ocuntry with them.
That's just an example, my friend. Soon enough you'll deal wrongly with the chinese as well, as soon as they start spilling over here en masse. It's the same as the Brits, but unfortunately for you they got lucky because they made mistakes with nations such as indians, whose biggest damage was buying out the whole fast food industry and jaguar/land rover.
I'm not talking about racism here - racism is all fine and good in my book. I'm talking refusing to think from a different point of view and pretty much just closing yourselves off into your own little world.
>>76378518
He forgot to add "active".
Wallonia has a shitload of camera placements, they're just not all active.
Most of the active ones are on major roads, obviously.
>>76378790
DELETE THIS
>>76378518
Those are the official figures hombre.
The last official count is from 2013 though, but even in 2015 there were only about 100 fixed speed cameras.
>>76378592
>You are clearly a proponent of critical theory, and thus most likely a cultural Marxist.
And you are clearly not very clever and are here because people with opinions such as yours seem to be the majority, so they make you feel clever by having the "right opinion".
Enjoy your day.
Think back on me in a few years once you become wiser.
>>76378480
>I'm not sure what you mean by saying you expected it to be a major socialist state
Good point. Not sure myself either. As an American and former California resident my definition is probably skewed from yours. I don't really like any sort of socialism so what most Europeans consider fairly basic, I consider to be radical.
>>76378337
I didn't experience much problems in Brussels. I suspect it is because myself and friends stuck out as Americans. I did however have a bad encounter in Paris with an African who I'm pretty sure was on drugs.
>>76378850
>404 argument not found
Bye bye, mister "words don't mean words".
>>76378790
Sadly I agree
But I know many people who would agree to this
>>76378691
One part of Belgian hilarity is that the revenue of speed cameras cannot be used to fund anything not directly related to law enforcement, so no better roads for us.
>>76378889
>offers no argument
>I offer no counter-argument
>"you have no argument"
I don't think I should be here...
Kanker Wallonen aan de gaskraan, Vlaanderen voor Vlaanderen.
>>76378935
>directly prove Wallonia is more socialist than Flanders
>no argument
Pick one and only one.
I really wish we were as economic liberal as the dutch but stayed cultural conservative as Flanders is
>>76376743
Depends which students. Engineering students are redpilled as fuck.
>>76378966
>hollanders jewery is forcing us to abandon our culture
>hollanders jewery does give us an enormous economy for the our size
Fuck groot Nederland
Groot Brabant when
>>76378903
I've met quite a few dutch people who agree to some of my thoughts. My wife's family is split about 30-70 on things like that.
But it's not enough.
I know how you people think. I see it firsthand in my wife. She thinks russians are "evil" and Putin is "bad". She is very much against saying muslims are "bad". She is very pro-refugees. Also she knows most of them are just illegal economic migrants. And if you talk about illegal economic migrants from a different context, she will be heavily against them. She recently became much more racist towards middle eastern people, yet she seems to attach that to a few countries (iranians, saudis - its a long story why). However, in most other cases she'll consider muslims as just muslims.
Yes, from what i said she sounds stupid, but that's not it. That's how most of you people think, simplified and said in a way you understand and yes, it is stupid. I'm sorry to say, but your attitude towards foreign cultures is just stupid. Every nation has its stupidities. The Dutch have foreign cultures, Murrika have blind arrogance and no knowledge of the outside world, the Brits have some weird imperialistic mindset that has no basis, French people don't have any grasp of reality and so on.
It's just pure bad luck that in the global world and the situation right now that yours causes so much damage.
>>76378960
That is not an argument as to the state. The current political framework is not directly overhauled and fit to the winner of the elections.
>>76378966
I really wish Belgium would stop existing already, you guys have done some autistic shit with our clay so far.
>>76376743
Thinking back, I just don't see why they never recovered.
I mean, they got cucked out of ruling, and just seemed to implode after that. Who got all of their voters?
>>76379204
>Allowing people to build whatever fucking house they can afford to, as opposed to ruleslawyering all the creativity and comfort out of it
>autistic
>>76379204
if you'd be more cultural conservative (for example the whole zwarte pieten bullshit) it would gladly join the Netherlands again.
Most things are better over there
>>76379120
Fuck groot Brabant, muur Geert om de Randstad en Vlaanderen er bij.
>>76379357
>go to Belgium town
>it's a fucking mess with weird houses everywhere
>they have bread vending machines and beer vending machines
Redeemed
>>76379357
Surely those things aren't born out of necessity, merely poor taste and several hundred years of inbreeding.
>>76379287
>I just don't see why they never recovered
I'm not familliar with the case of this specific party, but anti-(insert religion or ethnicity here) or pure nationalistic parties ala Farage or something always implode quickly once their momentum isnt enough to bring them to power.
Because once your momentum ends, you need some anchor to keep the people. And these parties usually have no policies, no politics, no substance whatsoever outside of the nationalism/anti-whatever.
This means that they gather momentum to win elections. Something they can actually do. Then once they lose, the only thing to look to is the next elections. However no one acts towards the next set of elections shortly after elections so they die out during that period. Unless they turn into hooligan formations or something, so they can actually DO stuff.
There are literally dozens of such cases all over the world. Most forgotten.
