Who /third party/ here? Since Clinton and Trump are the two most hated people to ever run for the presidency, it's time for us to break the two party oligarchy ruling our country.
Strong libertarian here.
Johnson is a "trendy" libertarian. He's not a true libertarian. But still, better than Clinton. Maybe, maybe better than Trump.
Also, fuck the libertarian party. They need to stop being such fucking faggots.
Fuck Johnson, McAfee, and maybe fuck Peterson. Fuck that guy that stripped.
Fucking idiots.
Hoppe or die.
>>76338820
>he supports open borders
>>76338820
>libertarian
>wew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs
>>76338820
>Jill (((Stein)))
>"libertarian" Gary Johnson
Both of them are worse than Hillary.
>>76339523
(((Stein)))
>>76338820
desu this whole thread is going to be Johnson people cuz all the lefties went to Facebook, Reddit, and Leftypol, except for me and a few other freaks
BUT....BBBB....BUT I'M BUILDING A WALL!!
Who /voted jill stein in 2012 for the first time/ here?
>>76338820
>Clinton and Trump are the two most hated people to ever run for the presidency, it's time for us to let Congress pic one of the two front-runners for president
You need to change the rules of the game first dumbass.
>who should I vote for?
>the kikes shills or the adult children with autism?
>>76339683
I love when those isidewith threads come up here on 4chan and people don't have their prepared ones ready, and everyone comes up with Green party as who they side with
XD
>>76339825
>You need to change the rules of the game first dumbass.
How can you change the rules dumbass when you have the two parties in power forever faggot?
>>76339588
>Gary Johnson
>Worse than Merkel 2.0
Hilldog detected.
I am voting for Jill Stein.
>Give me a third party that isn't shit and I'll vote for it.
-American public
>>76339662
Trump is a god tier troll. He manged to full all you idiots into thinking he wasn't part of the elite.
>>76339907
Not by deadlocking the electoral college in this current political climate and causing another civil war that's for damn sure. You have to start with Congress and right now the Greens and Libbies have shit for representation.
>>76340175
>Give me a third party that isn't shit and I'll vote for it. -American public
More like
>I vote based on what mainstream media tells me to vote for. - American sheeple.
>>76340235
>Not by deadlocking the electoral college in this current political climate and causing another civil war that's for damn sure.
We NEED a civil war at this point. Progressives and libertarians need to unite or we are going to be living in Nazi Germany at the rate things are going.
>>76338820
>it's time for us to break the two party oligarchy ruling our country.
Trump already broke it. The GOP is dead, it's the Trump party now.
>>76338820
green here.
>>76340628
>it's the Trump party now.
See>>76339662
Gary Johnson sounds like James Quall.
>>76339442
>Fuck that guy that stripped. Fucking idiots.
It was the Libertarian party's big chance, and they blew it hard.
>>76340222
I wasn't fooled.
What politician says the things he says?
>>76340811
That's what happens when you don't physically remove idiots from your libertarian social order. You've been warned.
Cant Parry The Gary
>>76338820
Is this where all the losers and fedoras are hanging out?
>>76341173
Dude's gotta work out more. He's got no gains.
>>76340378
>We NEED a civil war at this point.
No.
>Progressives and libertarians need to unite
No.
>living in Nazi Germany at the rate things are going
No.
Soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box. Use in that order.
A prediction, Trump is going to win, be a middle-of-the-road policy president who somehow prevents the neocons from attacking Iran. The system will be somewhat self-balancing.
For third parties, any votes do help the general cause of third parties, whatever the wackiness of the Green, Libertarian, etc. First past the post voting is one of the biggest obstacles these parties have. Other factors are giggles, money and more money.
>>76340021
who is this sperm worm
>>76338820
Serious question.
Is there a way to convince Bernie voters to vote for Johnson?
>>76341354
>be a middle-of-the-road policy president who somehow prevents the neocons from attacking Iran.
That's not how the presidency works anon.
You clearly are a kid who doesn't know the CIA and Pentagon are the ones who run the foreign policy in the USA.
>>76339662
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-megadonors-koch-222825
>Representatives of Charles and David Koch, the billionaire industrialists who helped to bankroll the rise of the tea party, warned the brothers could sit out the presidential campaign entirely — or even back Hillary Clinton.
Enough of the "Dude, here is Trump with this person I don't like." You can find pictures of Trump with anyone who has money, Especially other businessmen.
>>76339460
>libertarianism automatically means your support open borders
you know you can be a right wing libertarian right? you can stand for everthing that is libertarian, just within your own borders. for your own people.
having said that, voting for gary johnson is a wasted vote. maybe in 4 or 8 years. right now you're better off voting for trump just so the left wing doesn't win.
>>76341522
>Is there a way to convince Bernie voters to vote for Johnson?
Bernout here. Will be voting for Stein.
Johnson's position on climate change is awful.
DUD THE PLANET IS WARMING BUT LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT
>>76340811
>>76341173
>Media will do anything to stop Trump
>Start giving the Libertarian party absurd amount of coverage in desperate attempt to market them as a viable alternative
>Convention is the greatest opportunity to show the country the principles of a little-understood philosophy
>Get naked on stage instead
mirin johnsons forearms
>>76341638
Collectivist pleb over Individualist masterrace GTFO
>>76338820
I'd vote for the Gilf desu
Absolutely me, barring a Sanders victory.
Bernie > Jill Stein > Gary Johnson >>>>>>>> Trump >>> Clinton
Y'all wasting your votes.
t.
Duverger
>>76341859
so you're for open borders?
>>76342139
>Y'all wasting your votes.
>>76341731
Praise kek that the autists and last line of defense considered by #NeverTrump can't help but spill and entire tsunami of spaghetti when they get in the public spotlight.
>>76342258
The US has a two party system and it will stay that way forever. Good luck to your 1,04% dude though, whoever that is.
>>76342417
>The US has a two party system and it will stay that way forever. Good luck to your 1,04% dude though, whoever that is.
republican party was a third party till lincoln
>>76342237
There are morecimportant things at stake regarding our budgets/taxes/everything. Get the fuck out of here non-American trash, and fuck the min-wage cucks that are crying about their jobs.
Theyre wasting our money on too much law enforcement, google any city's CAFR
>>76342522
Was there a time when there were more than two dominant parties? No? I thought so.
>>76342522
Don't try, Anon. He'll forever be a cuck
>>76343072
>Was there a time when there were more than two dominant parties? No? I thought so.
Fuck you, it shows that we can break the conditioning. I refuse to see the Democratic or Republican party run this country for a another second, let along 100 more years.
>>76343152
I'm sorry that you don't understnd your political system.
>>76343324
Back to the cuck shed.
>>76342716
i don't think you realize how many millions of people are denied entry to america and how well america is doing at keeping their borders closed, relative to europe. america would be an absolute mess with open borders.
i do agree with you on the minimum wage and law enforcement though.
>>76343196
Trump already killed/took over the old GOP. I don't think he will win, but we will see a very different Republican party in the next election no matter what.
Or even a new big party. Doesn't change the fact that the two big parties will always be center left, center right.
There is no place for full blown Greens, Libertarians, Commies or whatever.
>>76338820
>open borders
cucks pls go
Well fuck, guess I'm a #GaryFairy now.
>>76338820
>breaking out of the two party system
>before enacting voting reform
Literally throwing your vote away, this is worse than people who just plain refuse to vote since you encourage others to throw their vote away.
>Third party
>Not being a free thinking independent
Not much of a break away if all you're doing is regurgitating a different flavor of zionism.
>>76343436
>cuck cuck cuck
Are you one of those simple minded?
>>76343580
>Trump already killed/took over the old GOP.
> but we will see a very different Republican party in the next election no matter what.
One that will be far far more unelectable than it already is you stupid German cuck. Trump is a literal Clinton shill who is destroying the GOP so she can get elected. Now back to the cuck shed.
>>76341606
>a dumb cunt who's never been to palm beach
>a dumb cunt that believes the Koch media plants
Go look up Trump's deal to get air access in Florida.
Or Trump's deal in their turf in South America.
The Kochs own his white ass.
>>76343663
It's cucks like this bitch that almost make me ashamed to have some German in my blood. Go prep the bull, Hans
>>76343663
>Are you one of those simple minded?
>>76338820
Independent here.
I don't need no party. Just the independent one.
>>76343714
Not necessarily. They can always renew itself. They tried after 2012. Remember the "we have to stop being the stupid party" speech? Of course they failed miserably. But if they can reinvent themselves as a moderate center-right party after the Trump fallout - and maybe attract some minority voters, who are crucial for winning elections - they have a decent chance again. Also, why are you so angry? Calm down, burger friend.
>>76338820
Libertarians need to adopt a logo that doesn't make them look like a fucking basketball team if they ever want to be taken seriously.
Green Party will always be a joke, nothing they can do about that.
>>76344033
>They can always renew itself. They tried after 2012.
And look how that turned out cuck. Now >>76343817
>>76343833
>>76338820
Ask yourself why Trump is hated.
>Mexicans are mad they won't get to invade and colonize the Southwest with abandon
>niggers are mad their nigger dynasty is getting replaced, and want to keep the Clintons, which are literally considered honorary niggers by them (look it up)
>Muslims butthurt they won't get to wage jihad as easily
>gibsmedaters upset they won't be getting more and more free shit they don't deserve
All reasons for Trump being "hated" are hollow and baseless whimpering from useless shitmonkeys.
I forgot I'm arguing on /pol/ with fedora tipping 18 year olds.
Have fun voting in your first election and good night.
>>76344164
>Ask yourself why Trump is hated.
He's so hated that Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and the entire GOP leadership endorsed him.
>>76344255
>I forgot I'm arguing on /pol/ with fedora tipping 18 year olds.
Cuck btfo and now in full damage control.
>>76338820
Third parties force the two major parties to reform their ideals in order to recapture voter blocks.
Do you even fptp
>>76344312
>Third parties force the two major parties to reform their ideals in order to recapture voter blocks.
Wait you are arguing in favor of voting for the third parties cause it forces them to reform their ideals. Re-read your post.
>>76344312
Basic logic? Cuck, cuck, cuck!
>>76344308
I didn't see any arguments, though.
>>76344264
Only because they're following the rules of the party. I'm pretty sure Ryan and many others would have Trump assassinated if they thought they could get away with it. They hate his guts.
>>76344445
>I didn't see any arguments, though.
Your arguing that you can only vote for D or R and I argue they are both shit and it doesn't matter who wins, it's all the same bullshit, so I will vote third party.
Now fuck off you German cuck.
>>76338820
Splinting up was good for Yugoslavia.
Why don't we do what they did?
>>76344508
>I'm pretty sure Ryan and many others would have Trump assassinated
FEMA CAMPS
>voting 3rd party
Enjoy voting for Hillary you cucks
>>76338820
Fuck Jill Stein. I'd rather #FeelTheJohnson.
>>76344555
My argument is that the US has a two party system because of its voting system and success for small unorganized third party is pretty much impossible.
>Your arguing that you can only vote for D or R
I don't, I'm only telling you that those are the only ones that can win at the moment.
>"reasonable" gun control
Gary Johnson is as much a libertarian as I am a reptilian
>>76344773
>My argument is that the US has a two party system because of its voting system
SO LET'S KEEP VOTING FOR THE TWO PARTIES THAT MAINTAIN THAT VOTING SYSTEM
Cuckhold
>>76338820
Voted for gary in 2012 and i will vote for him again.
I didn't vote in 2008 because the line was too long.
Alright so...What the fuck is the Green Party??
>>76344825
>Gary Johnson is as much a libertarian as I am a reptilian
Background checks is reasonable. I also think there should trackers on guns, so we can track down guns that get lost.
>>76344939
>Alright so...What the fuck is the Green Party??
http://www.gp.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_the_United_States
http://www.gp.org/platform
>>76338820
>green party
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>>76345133
Not an argument
>>76344614
Stop pretending to be stupid on the internet. You know as well as I do that the only reason they endorsed Trump was their promise to do so for the eventual nominee and they hate his guts in private. They're also perfectly happy with the idea of violent protesters attacking Trump rallies and probably hope for something bad to happen. Glenn Beck's insane fuming threats were the most open example of this among the movement conservatives.
>>76344885
organize a party that has broad grassroots suppurt and competent leaders who are ready to take over first. You're Libertarians (or whoever) are a bunch of whacky dreamers who are hardly qualified to run a small town in rural Oklahoma.
>>76345274
*your.
what a terrible mistake, I really have to sleep now
>>76345361
>what a terrible mistake, I really have to sleep now
Yeah cuck. Fuck off.
>Unironically voting for someone from Massachusetts
My state is a retarded baby
>>76338820
Yes, we should all be considered Independants, never associated with some stupid fucking corrupt party system.
>>76345682
>Yes, we should all be considered Independants,
I just did this last week when I re-registered my drivers license.
>>76338820
They are both hacks. My views aren't represented at all this election. I may give Johnson a vote just to boost his numbers. But the sad truth is that your vote does not matter.
During the Iowa caucuses, I voted for O'malley, just for shiggles. It turned out that bernie won my precinct by a landslide. Both clinton and o'malley were deemed not viable and my vote was meaningless. Don't you just love democracy in a bloated country?
>>76346132
>Don't you just love democracy in a bloated country?
USA has always been an oligarchy that suppresses the majority of the citizens.
>>76338820
How many Municipalities, States, Congresspeople or Senators do either these parties control? I mean currently serving and elected through that party, not another.
>>76347124
>How many Municipalities, States, Congresspeople or Senators do either these parties control?
It's called google. Both have local level elected people across the country, no Congress though.
>>76347437
So neither party has a base. You might as well throw your vote into the trash can if you are going to vote for a president without a sizable amount of congresspeople.
>>76340222
>>76348095
>"likes"
>1998
Whoever made that, you probably weren't even alive in 1998.
>>76344606
Why the fuck should we?
>>76351097
Its a meme mocking the intelligence of people who posted a fictitious meme you imbecile.
>>76351097
lol moron idiot faggot cocksucker who dosent unterstand comedy
>>76351476
>>76351559
I'm German. Humor is a foreign concept to me. Probably invented by Jews and Muslims.
>>76351097
Idiot
>>76339683
Me. I'm voting Trump this time though. Sometimes things have to change in a way you don't 100% agree with. I still support the environment but I don't think anything about being Green Party means you have to support Open Borders.
>>76351727
>humor
>muslims
Pick one
>>76353921
>calling me an imbecile for not getting memes mocking memes
>falling for my Muslim humor meme
It's getting over our heads, isn't it?
