>alt-right
DO NOT
ACCEPT
ANY TERMINOLOGY
PUT ONTO YOU BY OTHERS
IF YOU ARE NOT A DEGENERATE
YOU ARE A "SEXIST" AND A "RACIST".
BUT YOU ARE NOT A NAZI-WORSHIPPER
OR SOMEONE WHO SERIOUSLY BELIEVES IN
ANYTHING ELSE THAN FREEDOM AND DECENCY.
DO NOT
ACCEPT
TERMINOLOGY
DO NOT
PLAY
BY OTHERS' RULES
ALSO
>right wing
>right winger
DO NOT
BE A LITERAL IDIOT
AND ACCEPT
TERMINOLOGY
USED
BY LITERAL
SWEDES
YES THIS IS
WHAT
>SWEDES
THROW AROUND
RIGHT WING IS A POLITICAL INSTITUTION
COMPRISED OF ACTUAL GOVERNMENT
THAT PUSHES FOR AUTHORITARIANISM
AS FAR AS I KNOW, A RARITY OF /pol/ IS AUTHORITARIAN
>>76333280
AND NONE OF US ARE IN POWER IN ANY GOVERNMENT
SO BY DEFINITION WE CAN NOT BE RIGHT NOR LEFT WING
PLEBBIT AIN'T
>LEFTIE
PLEBBIT IS A FAGGOT
WE MOSTLY BELIEVE IN FREEDOM
WE ARE THE "LEFTISTS" AND THE
"LIBERALS"
But why am I wasting time, as most if not all of you are dumb faggots who are right now sliding this very thread by replying to
>LITERAL
BAIT
>already page fucking 6
I hate you faggots so fucking much
thanks we know
/pol/ is proof that democracy can't work because 90% of people are braindead
>>76333599
well apparently not, as I'm seeing this term popping up more often than not
>>76333599
you just bumped the thread back onto page 1 and not even a minute later it's back to page 6 again what the fuck is going on
>>76333649
>>democracy can't work
then doesn't that make you authoritarian? Why not embrace it?
>>76334462
I'm not saying there's something better, just that democracy isn't good.
>>76333105
Are you having a stroke?
look at all the shit nobody gives a fuck a bout.
Do you know why? Because your proxy succ
Fucking hire me now. I didn't solved the puzzle because I'm lazy but just buy me the flight tickets and I'll do what you're trying to do /correctly/
>>76334557
That said I have reported multiple shill/slide threads a day, including any and all with porn OPs
>>76334691
just like bait designed to infuriate you enough to reply makes you mad,
someone coming here and putting stamps and categories onto a "diverse" community to silence it makes me angry
>>76334744
nisam proksi picka ti materna
>>76334871
Nice google translate
>>76334802
Doesn't work, the mods that actually exist on /pol/ both don't care and can't handle the amount of bait there is here.
There needs to be a mentality shift for this shit to stop.
>>76334948
jedi govna majmuncino
>bosnia
>caring what US media calls US right wingers
Literally why. We're /pol/ here, we're just nationalists in real life. You won't be called alt-right in Bosnia, retard.
I come here to learn about politics-oriented things and other useful information.
And day after day I have to spend more and more time wading through shit to find something useful.
Just that fact is infuriating enough to excuse this meta piece of shit thread.
>>76335039
>You won't be called alt-right in Bosnia, retard
People who support Donald Trump are exactly the opposite of "right wingers".
You don't find it ridiculous that "leftists" and "liberals" are the ones on the authoritarian side and the "right wingers" just want their people to live freely and grow?
Nationalist is a technically incorrect term to call a supporter of Trump, Farage, and others.
Patriot is more fitting.
>>76335101
No you're not. You're a tree letter agency and god fucking damn it I should've had solved the damn puzzle and work 500k a year to post dank memes as a social experiment.
fml better luck next time
seriously get a new proxy
>>76335101
>I come here to learn about politics-oriented things and other useful information.
>/pol/
>"useful information"
>>76335293
>tree letter agency
>leaf
>>76334462
Democracy never works. Republic is the way societies should be. A Republic always degenerates into Democracy.
>>76334956
>>76335101
If you want a properly moderated politically incorrect discussion board there is (8)chan's /pol/. 4chan's /pol/ turned into /b/ tier board.
>>76335365
oh shit waddup
>>76335390
>8
They are even worse.
They actually identify with an ideology the madmen.
>>76335296
4chan is the best place to learn anything on the whole of internet.
>>76335101
Though I do agree with you, you over-spurged twat.
>Politically Incorrect
Don't learn ideas here. Learn what's not a good idea. More importantly, learn how to take care of yourself in the wilds of your land or the lands 200km away should you have to traverse them.
A creeping thought i'v had since the 80s was, "Holy fuck this shit isn't going to last much longer is it?"
Learn both sides of the field, but more importantly take a serious look at human psychology, human behavior. It'll help you in the long run to descern true friend from foe.
What's amusing about the world is the complexity of how stupid it is.
Fucking frogs and anime girls man.
>>76335462
Well, you can't expect to have your Safe Space in 4chan or at (8)chan. One way or another there will be opposing ideologies and random images.
>>76335534
>Fucking frogs
>>76335679
>Safe Space
Opposing ideologies yes. Someone trying to put a label on me and have me at one or other side because I spend time here no.
Bait shit kills discussion.
I am saging my own thread this is how much this infuriates me.
>>76335812
>Bait shit kills discussion.
>>76335812
Then don't reply to baits. Some anons come here for (You)s.
>>76335901
Well. Stay strong young fella.
The world is fucked. Don't let your body go to waste, don't let your mind go to waste.
>>76335987
>Some anons come here for (You)s.
>>76335936
Remember how much info you could pull from this board before the bait shit started? Even then there were plenty of muslim shills spreading neonazi propaganda but even then you could learn something.
Now it's all bait.
9/10 threads on here are bait. And repetitive bait on top of that.
>>76335987
>Then don't reply to baits
pic related? we all know how efficient that is
we need to shame anons who reply to bait or "unironically" subscribe to an ideology
weed out the weaklings
>>76336393
>weed out the weaklings
>Might is right.
although I have to admit one thing
the constant barrage of ignorant bait shows either how stupid the antipatriots (that's what I call the "lefties", it seems more fitting) are or how stupid they think WE ARE
>>76336587
Well it is.
>>76336631
>Well it is.
Assuming for one momment you're not some chairforce faggot who's going out of his autistic way to try to meme some shit up I would say you've just opened your eyes for the first time and it hurts.
right now the best thing you can do is open the window and scream for a good minute or two.
Because you ain't starting a revolution with twosteps from hell playing in the background.
>>76336932
Nature dictates so.
see >>76335530
Tbh OP mainstream will always shit on 4chan and associate users as neckbeard memesters. It's guilt by association, but the normie is not exactly rational. This is why we don't reveal our power level under any circumstance. You would get ostrisched.
I just got banned from reddit. Again. XD
>>76337073
Open the catalog. Most of the threads is just shamelessly rude bait designed to attract retards and disrupt any normal discussion.
Everyone knows this, there have been frequent meta threads blaming mods for this, even going as far as implying mods are aiding this.
I don't care about that. I just want to see if there's some way to stop this.
I do not want to waste time here wading through shit. My time is more valuable than that.
>>76337290
Because you let them. This is board is the announcement board Martin Luther used to shitpost against the Catholic Church.
If you let enemies of decency do what they are trying to do - you'll help them disrupt it.
>>76337316
KEK. usually when i'm on reddit I push cuckold propaganda and call white men weak, effeminate betas. So many lulz
>>76337347
No. You're just a fucking new fag who just realized now that the world was shit and subversion was child play.
What you're seeing isn't secret agent derailing your favorite chinese forum, it's just old jaded outcast trying to have a laugh between two suicidal thoughts.
Go play some video game. Leave the rest to Trumpy daddy. There ain't nothing new to bring to the table. It's the same fucking shit fucking Plato was saying back in ancient greece.
Jew bad. Nigger bad. Plebs bad.
>>76337688
Demoralization propaganda and baseless implications.
Try harder.
>>76337754
Do you even read you meme spouting fuck? I just told you to chill the fuck out before you shoot a movie theater or something you lunatic twat, I'm probably the one who posted the yuri video you're parroting now so fuck off with your pee pee poo
>>76337604
Sheet. You should make an account and troll as much as possible virtue signaling as fuck. The "karma" system is your high score.
>>76337913
More baseless implications.
>>76337688
>>76337754
>>76337913
>>76337969
>when in doubt, attack the legitimacy of the messenger
>it just werks
>>76337969
And what is your point what are your implication beside being a complete fucking lunatic roleplaying? You meeky little twat
You're like saying we're all here to sabotage the alt right because we post stupid shit because we're bored, angry and depressed and want some laugh and bants.
Are you fucking mental?
Helloooooo wacko I'm talking to you, did I made you pop a retard bubble and you're already in the streets on your lunatic rampage?
>>76338048
You are implying that I'm tinfoil faggot from /x/ or a newfag, trying to dissuade others from engaging in a relatively serious meta topic.
Doing nothing else than disrupting the thread.
>>76338176
>sabotage the alt right
The alt-right doesn't exist. /pol/ is an open forum. It is not neonazi, it is not pro Israel nor pro Palestine.
It is not X or Y. Stop trying to make it such.
Only thing I can freely say is that I've noticed at least 99% of /pol/ is comprised of freedom loving patriots.
That's the only consistent factor. And we should not et you turns us into
>an kike enabler
>an kebab enabler
>an kraut enabler
>an x enabler
>an y enabler
just to silence what the most useful politically-oriented place on the internet has to say
>>76338360
baseless implications
If I were an American I'd support Trump;
but even I can see that many threads are specifically designed to make you support Trump. Even though I agree with it, we're all being played like a fiddle.
and another thing
>>76338396
>>76338434
>>76338679
Dude, this is not the fucking acropolis of athens.
You're in sodome as an exile.
Basically what I'm trying to tell you fucking room temperature IQ morron is we are here to laugh at things we're already understand and come over with.
shut up. no more ''other thing''
>>76338862
another side effect of all of this is polarization.
You all know yourselves that there are plenty anons on here that are future extremists just waiting to be radicalized.
When you actually begin to believe that most of cherry-picked information pieces shown to you here you will start to look at the world through a black/white lense.
That'll make you do stupid shit in real life. Which will also destroy your credibility in the long run.
>>76337594
Irrationality is not a bannable offense neither are bad threads. Just ignore those posts desu it's just simply not possible to reason with an unreasonable person.
>>76338904
>Dude, this is not the fucking acropolis of athens
If you can not see the influence /pol/ has in the real world you are blind.
>>76339194
I'm not looking to ban shitposters. I'm looking for ideas on how to stop the behavior altogether.
>>76339289
Mate. Grow up.
>>76333778
Busy night
>>76339357
jesus fucking christ you are cringe fuel
I fucking hate feeling ashamed for someone else it's disgusting
>>76339392
Yeah seems so.
>>76339370
Just anecdotal, but I myself am advising a local branch of a huge political party here based on the knowledge I gathered from /pol/, /biz/ and similar places on the internet.
>>76339515
You have brought nothing to this discussion.
>advising a local branch of a huge political party here based on the knowledge I gathered from /pol/, /biz/ and similar places on the internet.
[continued laughter]
Oh and while you type in you next lunatic reply let me just ask again, do you feel in charge? :^)
Stop being naive. You do as we say. Not the other way around. Let that sink in, meme adviser.
>>76339714
I know what your countrymen do and do not feel, will do, and know.
I know what's happening in Germany and V4. I know what's going on with Russia, arabs Jews and the Greeks.
Granted, I need to dig more and more each week to find something useful and not one-sided, but I can find non-filtered information.
Just the amount data on marketing I got from /biz/ is more useful than I'd ever learn without this place.
>>76339873
Baseless implications. Go away.
>>76340029
It's just funny how precisely I can spot what you are parroting from which board/video.
Holy shit. Gentlemen, we broke someone with dank memes. MK Ultra are pussies.
>>76340298
You said literally nothing. But thanks for the bump.
OP although I do agree with you in the fact that this board cannot really be assigned a political label some of the shit you're saying is cringe as fuck
try rewording the thread, filtering the cringe, and post again
It'll get more traction and you might get some decent discussion
>>76340523
>some of the shit
What exactly?
>>76340363
I called you an automaton.
Nothing more but an idiot who think he's ''awoken'' and he's on some kind of crusade to fix everything.
I should call you Raiden.
>>76339565
>but I myself am advising a local branch of a huge political party here based on the knowledge I gathered from /pol/, /biz/ and similar places on the internet.
TOPZOZZLE
funniest shit I've read on /pol/ this year
>>76333105
Said this for a long time.
The Jew operates by oppositional binaries and labelling, if you play in the leftist sandbox you are labelled and controlled. The first step to white ceasarism is sticking doggigly to your own lexicon.
It's like the church of the redpill is dealing with the "the great schism"
The back and forth almost reminds me of the Alex Jones/Billy Corgan interview. Alex has it stuck in his narrative that it's the globalists controlling everything and Billy was more like saying that everything is controlled more than you know but it's not all the same monolithic "globalists."
>>76340763
nisam rekao da sta kazem uzmu u obzir :^>
reminder that alt-right is a term created by the left to lump conservatives that disagree with neocons in with skinheads and "white nationalist" groups in a desperate attempt to shame and discredit them
>>76340748
Baseless implications. Maybe even projections.
>>76340929
Basically, yes.
>>76334462
There is nothing to suggest a non Democratic society is authoritarian or unfree, you could have the most ludicrous ultra nationalism at it be a contractual and free society.
>>76340950
I'm implying that you're just parroting stuff and you're overeating, this is what I have been consistently saying since my very first post and the only thing you've been spaming is baseless implications you Mlyneuxdrome.
>>76340583
honestly its mostly the tumblr-esque full caps, shit like
"LITERAL
>BAIT"
"PLEBBIT AIN'T
>LEFTIE
PLEBBIT IS A FAGGOT"
now everyone here agrees with that shit but the way you typed it makes it less attractive
type everything out in a calmer fashion, keep as much of the energy as possible, but try to avoid typing it out like that
use single lines for one sentence instead of 10, don't put random words in greentext for whatever reason you can think of
>>76341178
You said quite literally nothing in this whole thread.
>>76340929
And the point of the that is to make any non-white exodus to the right impossible because it makes asians and blacks feel uncomfortable
>>76341214
My excuse, I was actually angry at the beginning of the thread.
>>76333105
>>76333280
>>76333421
>>76337347
I completely agree
I consider myself a liberal and I find it incredibly disheartening that people would categorize me as a member of the right wing simply because people neoism has consumed modern politics
"alt right" is a meaningless buzzword used to define a large swath of people as something they're not
namely once again as neo-conservative traditionalist mindlessly racist morons
>>76341283
I feel like the long term goal is to also kill white and black nationalism, although I don't know how much nationalism is in any black countries but I know for a fact the niggers here are the least patriotic, open borders faggots I've ever met
>>76333105
/pol/ is at peak popularity right now
It will probably get better after the US elections are over with. I think alot are here because they are just for/against Trump.
>>76341333
makes sense mate
its a good thread though, and it seems to be picking up a bit of traction finally
>>76341216
I said you are reaping memes and overacting because you have an exaggerated sense of self importance and you think you're on a crusade to fix ''the alt right''
I said this is pointless and the threads/post you consider JIDF raids or something are purely people having a laugh.
I said you are paranoid, immature and cringy.
You have come back with the same strawman not an argument shit over and over and over.
psst.
hey op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvSwdqS-PcI
>>76341283
>to the right
How on Earth can you honestly believe that you're "right wing" when
a) technically neither you nor the redditor that calls you that are qualified to fit into the term
b) right wing is authoritarianism and big govt.
c) right wing is anti-capitalist by nature
?
Or am I wrong about this?
>>76341545
Still baseless implications. You have said nothing for the past hour you've been here.
So, I suggest a bottom line:
>start shaming anons who put or take on attributions designed to censor discussion
>start shaming anons who reply to bait threads
>????
>no more 2 hours of lurking to find something useful
bump
but really OP if this hits page 10 remake thread and link to it, Ill bump for a bit before I go to sleep
>>76339565
>I myself am advising a local branch of a huge political party here based on the knowledge I gathered from /pol/, /biz/ and similar places on the internet.
I mean you live in bosnia so is that really that impressive?
>>76341696
I am small gov't but I do support the death penalty.
I am different.
I'm
Pro death penalty for adultery, murder, blasphemy, sodomy
Pro drug use
Closed borders but would allow refugees (more like the Bosnian kind than the Syrian immigrants)
Pro guns
Pro free speech (no porn)
Anti abortion
Anti gay 'marriage'
Against income tax
>>76342165
Well, we were an excuse to start the first big war, so that's something.
The Balkan cauldron is very dangerous my friend. I am currently sitting at a meeting point between East West and South.
>>76342365
But again, that meeting point is in bosnia.
>>76342256
>>76342365
http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php
YOU TWO
DO THIS QUIZ
lets see what kind of special snowflake yall actually are
>>76333105
I MADE
A
POST TODAY
AND EVERYONE
CALLED ME A FAG
The altright has been around since like 2010. Its not them that created the term. Its people that got sick of the status quo right wing, congregated together online, and eventually developed the "alt-right"
>>76342555
that test is shit
it over generalises so much bullshit
>>76342555
You are a: Conservative Libertarian Total-Isolationist Nationalist Reactionary
Collectivism score: -67%
Authoritarianism score: -67%
Internationalism score: -83%
Tribalism score: 33%
Liberalism score: -67%
Explanation key:
Collectivism refers economic intervention, whether the society or state should intervene in the economy to redistribute wealth from the more to the less successful. The negative percentages indicate opposition to such intervention.
Authoritarianism refers to state power to control the actions of individuals to prevent them from harming others or themselves, and also to establish the will of the majority over society. Negative percentages indicate opposition to state power.
Internationalism refers to political involvement in other nations or global affairs, either via war, treaty or international organizations. Negative percentages indicate isolationist beliefs, and the belief in national sovereignty.
Tribalism refers to identity or nationalism, favoring your own nation over foreigners. Negative percentages indicate opposition to national or ethnic identity and oriented towards pan-humanism.
Liberalism refers to acceptance of historically illegal or immoral social practices or customs. Negative percentages indicate opposition to such acceptance.
>>76342555
>>76342763
Most were maybes for me.
There is no fixed answer to a lot of the questions.
Collectivism score: -50%
Authoritarianism score: -33%
Internationalism score: -67%
Tribalism score: 17%
Liberalism score: -50%
>>76343016
>Isolationist for thinking UN doesn't work
>Nationalist because I understand my country is better for me because it's mine
Who made this, a /pol/ack?
>>76343106
IKR pretty retarded
>>76342555
answered 2/3 of this quiz with "maybe", too many generalised sweeping statements requiring a yes or no.
Collectivism score: 100%
Authoritarianism score: 50%
Internationalism score: 17%
Tribalism score: -17%
Liberalism score: 0%
>>76333105
Good thread OP. I'll use your image.
>>76342101
>start shaming anons
>>76343450
Typical leftie
But the flag says it all
Our country is doomed because of autistic leftie redditors like you
>>76343462
That's what it was made for.
>>76343560
Peer pressure kills the degeneracy.
>>76343569
did you even read the fucking test?
Its got sweeping generalised statements with no real answer
>>76343569
>typical leftie
>Authoritarianism score:100%
>Liberalism score: 0%
>>76343649
>>76343711
If your results arent close to mine you are a homo and a commie
>>76343649
also I thought it was good, what makes u think it was generalized?
>>76343569
Funny you say that considering I'm for all intents and purposes a National Socialist. I'm vehemently anti-globalization, anti-immigration and am aware of the grip of powerful moneyed interests of individuals and groups littered with jews. This test is dogshit because I had to answer everything with a maybe it doesn't give me a legitimate score/value.
>>76333105
yknow this guy is right
thats actually a pretty good idea
>>76333105
>YOU ARE NOT A NAZI-WORSHIPPER
nice meme
>go onto Twitter
>look up AltRight
>absolutely nothing but LARPers trying to one-up each other on how right-wing they are
>one French girl protests with anti-white genocide banners
>gets shitloads of replies from other AltRight personalities calling her a whore because of her outfit
Maybe there's some legit European ethnocentrists out there, but online the majority is just edgy Reddit
Anyway, the biggest issue here is polarization. No community should ever be polarized as much as European countries are today.
We can probably take care of /pol/, and maybe when /pol/ becomes normal again, the others will follow the reaction.
Keep in mind this relies heavily on the influence this board has.
>>76344078
Irony is the Canadian flag that's been shitting out baseless implications didn't even realize he's doing exactly what I'm talking about.
>>76344179
Well most of us aren't. To each their own, but I don't remember Kraut-worship or Soviet-worship being "grassroots".
>>76344281
Perhaps a way to save European countries is to stop the division and normalize everything.
Instead of turning your brothers who have different views into your enemies you could perhaps turn those who seek to turn you against your brothers into your enemies.
>>76344019
Nat Soc? Ew. You hate liberty and want your pagan values instilled. Also you lack knowledge of economics.
>>76344019
Again what exactly made it too generalized?
>>76344227
Identity truly is cancer.
>>76343934
The wording of a few questions and the way the answers correlate
ie it makes you isolationist if you think the UN is shit
also it talks about Government intervention" which can mean a whole host of things
also
"income inequality harms our society"
what does it mean by this?
does it mean we have an issue with income inequality or that having it would cause an issue?
also again income inequality could mean a few different things from a gender pay gap to a pay gap between different ranks in a company
it asks about private sector vs government in delivering services, but what if you believe it to be different from sector to sector?
It asks if euthanasia, abortion, and suicide should all be legal when people may have massively different opinions on each of these because each has a different implication overall and different implications to individuals
>>76344497
Can't load the site anymore, but see >>76343106
>>76344603
forgot
it said "the moral decay" without defining what it means by moral decay
which is fucking mental
>>76344742
>>76344742
>>76344742
>>76344742
could something like this work?
>>76333105
>>76344603
> what does it mean by this?
How can you not understand that? Does income inequality hurt society. Yes, No, Maybe.
The answer ofc is No. Only dumb lefties say yes.
> it asks about private sector vs government in delivering services, but what if you believe it to be different from sector to sector?
Your leftie bias is showing
> It asks if euthanasia, abortion, and suicide should all be legal when people may have massively different opinions on each of these because each has a different implication overall and different implications to individuals
You're a degenerate atheist too
Let me guess you're a national socialist as well?
>>76344543
I just don't understand the point of doing any of it when everyone's ready to eat each other alive for clearly minor disagreements. Makes them no different than SJWs.
There needs to be more enigmatic leadership instead of pissed off kids raging at the world.
>>76344937
No actually I agree with you entirely on all of those points
you just lack the ability to be objective.
>>76345032
I for one had no issue with most of the questions. 1 or 2 could have been more specific but it was rather clear.
>>76345000
>pissed off kids raging at the world
And someone's using them like a tool to push an agenda.
>needs leadership
Not really, no. A political stance too extreme for the majority is obviously not normal.
As such it shouldn't even be an option and doesn't need any kind of leadership.
>>76345132
You had no issue because the different meanings had no difference to you in terms of your answering
I say its shit because it wasnt just made for hard right wingers, or hard left wingers, who would have not cared regardless of the different meanings
>>76344497
>>76344433
I never said I was a Nazi or National Socialist in the German sense. I said that for all intents and purposes I am a National Socialist. A Socialist that has nationalist tendencies and doesn't buy into jewish dogma.
>pagan values
Go back to sucking Jesus' dick in your dreams, nonsense has no place here.
>Again what exactly made it too generalized?
Are you serious? Can you not see it with your own eyes? Maybe because the world is black or white in your eyes doesn't mean that any question has a yes/no answer. Examples:
>Euthanasia, abortion and suicide should all be legal
I think Euthanasia should be legal, Abortion should be legal in cases of endagering the life of the mother and suicide should not be "legal". So this question is a waste of time since I answer yes, no and maybe all at the same time.
Another:
>The government always has the right to impose taxes on people
>The government always has the right to dictate what people can and cannot do
This entirely depends on whether or not the government is democratically elected with safeguards in place to prevent excess lobbying from vested interests. SO the answer is once again maybe
Last example:
>Our country should never join a currency union like the Euro
Maybe it could, maybe it should. It would make trade and commerce easier. But it should have sufficient protections in place to prevent the cucking of an entire region like how Germany dominates the eurozone, punching above it's weight. Once again another maybe because it's situational and asking me to give a yes/no answer to a question that doesn't have a yes/no answer.
>>76345477
> Go back to sucking Jesus' dick in your dreams, nonsense has no place here
Take your moral relativism and blow it out your arse hippie
> nk Euthanasia should be legal, Abortion should be legal in cases of endagering the life of the mother and suicide should not be "legal". So this question is a waste of time since I answer yes, no and maybe all at the same time.
It comes down to your moral relativism
> This entirely depends on whether or not the government is democratically elected with safeguards in place to prevent excess lobbying from vested interests. SO the answer is once again maybe
Moral relativism
> Maybe it could, maybe it should. It would make trade and commerce easier. But it should have sufficient protections in place to prevent the cucking of an entire region like how Germany dominates the eurozone, punching above it's weight. Once again another maybe because it's situational and asking me to give a yes/no answer to a question that doesn't have a yes/no answer.
Economic illiteracy
Yep you definitely are a socialist
>>76345804
Your entire post speaks for itself, I don't even have to try and insult you myself anymore, it's clear you have no idea what is going on.
Have fun crying over the election results kid.
>>76346113
Alright retard
>>76345132
also you said
>you're a degenerate atheist too
I'm currently looking into Christianity, I read a bit of basic philosophy in order to make my mind up and decided I am, at the least, a deist.
It just makes sense
(was agnostic for most years)
I feel like the reason I was agnostic was the fact I had never "seen a real sign" or honestly thought about it, yet I still found myself praying in times of need etc
Since this is /pol/ I'm assuming you're Christian so I need to ask you
how did you get into the faith?
which denomination do you follow?
how do you recommend reading into/getting information on each denomination? (try to be objective here)
Also on the last question its worth noting I have no way to go to an orthodox church since I have none near me (I'm in Scotland)
>>76346113
>Your entire post speaks for itself
I mean I was gonna avoid taking a side in this since I don't really care and you both seem reasonable but that is the single biggest cop out used on this site.
>>76345265
>Not really, no.
Okay, then nothing will change. Everyone wants the party to start, no one wants to be the first one to show up. Without leadership, there's no going forward with this little movement.
>A political stance too extreme for the majority is obviously not normal.
Like I said, LARPers.
The moment you convince yourself that defending you and your people from a scheduled imminent genocide is "too extreme" to bring up to the majority, then you've already accepted it's going to happen, you're powerless or at least unwilling to stop it, and you're merely angry as a catharsis.
I'll unapologetically vote for any right-wing white ethnocentrist I can find, and I encourage everyone else to do the same. But that will only go so far. The real response to this should be making life uncomfortable for globalists, responding to violence with violence, and taking back the media, or at least nullifying the power of Old Media, whom are effectively traitors at this point. Shitposting on Twitter is a recruiting tool and a way to disseminate information people need to know, but not an end-goal in itself.
Europe ought to be organizing militias right now, t b h. To do that, you need leadership
>>76346362
>Europe ought to be organizing militias right now
there was a man caught today in Ukraine (I believe) who was smuggling enough weaponry and ammunition to France for 15 attacks on Mosques, Synagogues, and tax halls
Trust me lad, Europe has almost hit breaking point.
>>76333105
Shills are getting more and more obvious.
>>76346362
>defending you and your people from a scheduled imminent genocide
You don't fight that by helping the advocates of that genocide silence you.
Do not subscribe to an ideology or beliefs. It makes it harder for them to ad hom you into irrelevance.
>>76346275
> how did you get into the faith?
By the grace of God. Which was helped by pondering my atheism which leads to nihlism. I read some philosophy Augustine, CS Lewis (which I quite dislike now) and Plato.
> which denomination do you follow?
Presbyterian. Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy are leftist and are heretical.
> how do you recommend reading into/getting information on each denomination? (try to be objective here)
How true are they to scripture. Read Machen (founder of the OPC) book called "Liberalism and Christianity".
To learn about each denomination read from their catechism or creed.
EO have their own catechism and literature. RC have the magisterium and the catechism.
Presbyterians the WCF, Anglicans have the 39 articles, Lutherans the Ausburg Confessions.
> Also on the last question its worth noting I have no way to go to an orthodox church since I have none near me (I'm in Scotland)
Eastern Orthodox are liberals. Most deny the inerrancy of scripture and their theology is bankrupt and pagan.
>>76346275
Also one thing that made me leave atheism is that in atheism there is no objective morality (meaning lefties are morally justified in doing anything), no objective truth and are lot epistemological issues are resolved once you have belief in an omniscient being such as God.
I read up on the Christian worldview and folk such as James Anderson, Van Til and Greg Bahnsen.
I studied the arguments for the resurrection books by Michael Licona and NT Wright. I studied actually how reliable the Bible is.
I found out most atheist philosophers and scholars are only atheist because they hate their fathers (Read up on Dr. Paul Vitz) and though they claim to be rational are quite irrational.
>>76346885
>>76347277
thanks a lot mate
I'll have a look into some Presbyterian stuff soon, there's a kirk down the road from me.
whats your opinion on baptism?
>>76346569
I saw. It was a classic sting operation, he wasn't close to actually carrying an attack out (the police had hi-res cameras on hand to record the arrest, the RPG rounds were still in a crate with factory bubble wrap meaning they supplied them, etc.), but I can empathize with him a hell of a lot. Entrapment or not, at least this Frenchman stepped up. He had heart. A true patriot. He just got overzealous and was a lone wolf.
I guess I'm more worried about you all becoming victims of imminent violence, which is probably right around the corner truth be told. Now, I'm not saying you need to go find some ATGMs right this very second. But if you and your close m8s are armed, organized, and have each other's back? If you're ready to knock out any invaders that harm your block or community? If you're ready to fight the Marxists when they show up? Yes, yes, and yes? Then good. That's a start.
>>76347541
Baptism doesn't regenerate anybody even if Papist claim otherwise.
Infant if they have a believing parent should be baptized or can be.
That's about it. Look you're lucky to be born in a predominantly Presbyterian country. Don't fall for the LARPers. Romanism is a corruption of biblical Christianity. My political views stem from the Bible.
>>76333105
Get a load of this mad alt-right degenerate faggot
>>76346690
>You don't fight that by helping the advocates of that genocide silence you.
It's exceptionally easy to rhetorically defeat the traitors on this topic, dude. If you aren't directly seeking the enemy out to defeat them at this point, it's because you haven't done enough reading.
Mass-migration to Europe and America cannot be defended even by the Left's own supposed belief system. They're not silencing me. I'm silencing them.
>>76347925
>alt-right
no such thing
>>76347925
> alt-right
never heard of it
>>76347552
Yeah it's a shame for the guy, but the French are investigating it as a smuggler case rather than him as a terrorist himself which makes me hope there is a group forming
Currently I'm encouraging everyone I know to get a SGC and FAC, for the fun side of joining a shooting club and hunting only of course ;^)
>>76347870
I meant the Baptist church, sorry for the confusion
I'm a literal Fascist, I remember before /pol/harbor all of the collapsed threads were filled with economically right wing authoritarians/totalitarians. So was the many threads.
/pol/ is a fascist board.
>>76348664
Baptist churches tend to be Arminian. A Reformed Baptist church is good. However I'd just recommend Presbyterian.
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>>76348747
What are your thoughts on its connection to socialism?
>>76348664
Doing God's work. Keep it up!
>>76348831
thanks for all the help mate
I'll go to the kirk next Sunday
When I want to refer to the sect of the Internet that talks about race realism, Jews, anti-SJW stuff, etc, I think "alt-right."
I don't walk around and say "I am alt-right."
My god you fucking people are so stupid.
>>76333105
Go home bosnia you are drunk
>>76348283
>>76348366
Ahahaha stay mad you alt-right poofs
>>76333105
what kind of schillery is this ?
>>76349341
You are missing the point entirely
The label itself is used and will be used to brow beat people who dissent, same with fascist, nazi, and ring wing.
Any time someone calls you it ask them what it is and tell them you aren't a part of that group.
>>76349099
Well Fascism grew out of syndicalism which is basically a form of anarcho-socialism usually.
It should be understood there's forms of socialism that aren't related to Marx, and are anti-Marxist. Fascism is one of those currents.
Unlike anarcho-syndicalism, where the state is seen as an enemy which should be dissolved…the state is seen as the primary binding agent which binds the entire people together.
I see Corporatism as a way of getting the efficiency of Capitalism (which is sustainable growth) while getting the efficiency of socialist central planning (which is the entire system going under industrialization, or in a modern form would be automation.)
I've came up with two terms that I find describe the fascist economic style very well.
Viser Et Laissez Faire (aim and Let Go/do) and Collectivist Capitalism.
I find that this economic system united with the traditional American economic system (tariffs to protect and promote American industry; a national bank to foster commerce; and federal subsidies for roads, canals, and other 'internal improvements' to develop profitable markets for agriculture.)
Would probably be the best.
>>76349099
Note, minimum regulations is a key aspect of the traditional American economic system, which also aligns with the economics of Hayek. I find corporate syndicates would be the best at finding out what would be the best bare-minimum amount of regulations since the corporate syndicates are a union of business owners, physical workers and the state.
>>76333105
You are alt-right
/pol/ is alt-right
Your whiny, SJW-like denials will not change this
>>76350141
You're actually missing the point. We're not supposed to care when they call us fascist, nazi, or right-wing. Or alt-right. It doesn't matter.
>>76350369
The "collectivist capitalist" part is always the thing that confuses me
I have base level econ understanding but it always seems self contradictory to be collectivist inside capitalism, which thrives off of competition
>>76351009
no we don't care
but we also need to get people on our side
if we can be shut down by stupid buzzwords in the eyes of a large amount of the population then we lose power in doing that
>>76351223
>The "collectivist capitalist" part is always the thing that confuses me
>I have base level econ understanding but it always seems self contradictory to be collectivist inside capitalism, which thrives off of competition
Think of it like this, it's capitalism where competition only exists between the nation's businesses between each other.
Traditionally, this system of tariff'd capitalism has allowed for the USA to amass a large amount of wealth and to keep that wealth inside the USA.
To put it simply, it's the choice of buying the product made in America, this choice is being subsidized by the state in order for the businesses of the USA to thrive.
No specific American business is benefited and regulations are kept at minimum in order to maximize competition and capitalism proper at the nation level.
Note, this system due to its nationalist flare usually lessens or almost destroys the toxic culture of consumerism.
The void left by consumerism is filled with nationalism. You support your country by buying your goods. You support your countrymen by selling your goods and services. So on and so forth.
>>76351819
It sounds good but incredibly prone to abuse by the state
We are the alt-right
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Expect us, cuck
MAGA
>>76352247
In my opinion, I believe the corporate syndicates and the state should be held to adhere to a constitution to make sure that the principes that these bodies were established for, ultimately are done properly and continuously.
A large aspect of fascism is that the State is stabilized under a one party system, where leaders/government are decided by something known as authoritarian/organic Democracy.
Which is basically a mixture of meritocracy and limited democracy, in this way only the best of the best who can truly capture the will of the people and prove themselves to the Party can truly advance through the state.
Something which made nazi Germany so efficient was the fact that parts of the government/party were competing with each other.
>>76353097
I agree with what you say but I honestly always wondered if a medieval style guild system would work in terms of handling business and any regulations
at least better than the government?
>>76333105
I appreciate you anon
have a you and a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxtYhHdOHQ
The truth by an old man, Jordan "go read a book" Maxwell
>>76353266
Well my understanding has always been this.
The guild would basically be filled with people who live day to day with their professions, they are impacted most by the regulations and the like.
If anyone knows what will hurt businesses the most, it will be the business owners. If anyone knows what would hurt the workers, its the workers.
We know historically that these big monolithic approaches to business and economy don't work, that small government and many autonomous units working in harmony is ultimately more efficient.
Therefore think of this as not adding another layer on top of the bureaucracy, but as making the government involvement smaller and more limited, Minimal.
They'd also have the power to make giant shifts (such as automation) happen rather easily and at appropriate times.
>>76354013
Exactly, would this work with or against a fascist government like you suggested?
>>76354573
This would work with the fascist government ideally, the highest members of the state upholding and defending the constitution (just as our elected officials are meant to do already.)
Note constitutional dictatorship has actually happened before, Abraham Lincoln is classified as one.
>>76355377
So basically the members of the guild would appoint the best people for the job to be the leaders of the guild and to do the best for the business within the confines of the constitution?
>>76355502
Basically.
Without trying to sound autistic this would ultimately result in a technocratic and meritocratic form of government.
Remember, a key aspect of fascism is the application of the scientific process to political and economic systems and eventually to the human animal.
>>76355972
Honestly one of my biggest issues with fascism has always been my idea that the government should not have directly controlled businesses and markets, if a guild system would work within it I'd be a lot more sympathetic towards it
