What's wrong with a degree in political science /pol/? I'm going to be picking a course to major in soon.
I want a job in politics. Should I take a degree in law or economics instead? Is political science a liberal propaganda course?
>>76330234
Most politicians have experience in law or business.
Poly sci will teach you how to shit talk if you get into a debate society based on it. Law will teach you how to expertly shit talk, if you get into trial law.
>>76330234
>Le STEM maymay
Yeah it's not like Engineers are becoming inundated even worse than Lawyers are or anything.
That meme is fucking stupid. Skilled trades are shit tier?
>>76330234
Why is civil and mech engineering downgraded?
Whats the outlook for Theology majors, i've always been interested in it. And I don't see why Business would be in shit tier. I majored in business with an emphasis in Finance and got a pretty good gig working at Big 4 and eventually started my own business with a friend.
>>76331588
Yeah. I thought theology would be shit tier. Business actually sounds good
Is there a problem with law?
>>76331775
Its because its americans making this. A business degree from a US public university gets you nowhere in the US and is filled with useless courses, business schools here actually pump out people that businesses want to hire.
Its not the same job market, and we don't flood ours with 10 quadrillion niggers who just barely passed ECON 101 with a little bribe from "coach" to the department.
>>76331775
>Is there a problem with law?
Good luck getting a job. I'm not sure about Canada, but in the US, lawyers have an unemployment rate of around 15%.
>>76330234
>Theology
>Not God Tier
>Economics
>mid tier
What the fuck?
>>76330234
Why is mech/civil engineering not considered as good as the others?
>>76334487
Yeah, it should definitely be in waste of life tier.
>>76330234
FOR THE LAST GOD DAMN TIME PUT PHYSICS LOWER, IT'S A SHIT TIER DEGREE THAT'S ONLY GOOD WHEN PAIRED WITH SOMETHING ELSE
FUCK
>>76330234
>be mech
>making $80k starting in aerospace
Should be God Tier desu
>>76330234
Holy shit your chart is beyond bias and retarded.
>CS
>bottom of the pile
my 30k starting says otherwise
>biology
>mid-tier
I'm sorry, what?
>be me
>math Ph.d
>starting 300k
>mfw
>>76334911
Right, any kind of biology should atleast be top tier
>>76334900
>30k starting
shit nigga how do you live?
>>76330234
>philosophy
>not waste of life tier
Yeah, this list is shit.
what /pol/ thinks about industrial engineering?
>>76335012
Medicine is already top tier, and anything else you can do with a biology degree is mid tier at most
>>76330234
Graduated Poly Sci major here. Don't really regret it, I enjoyed the courses, taught me how to write really well. Job market is nonexistent though. I lucked out getting a gig at a think tank.
>tfw majored in a foreign language and have a cozy job lined up abroad
>mfw STEMniggers are getting outsourced to Pajeet and Chang
You're only a waste of life if you're not at least near-fluent by graduation.
>>76335048
30k GBP ~= 43k United States Burger Dollars
>>76330234
You can make serious money with an art degree: hint add lots of programming. Silicon Valley is hiring lots of people if they have a strong foundation in CS and an art background.
Of course doing both yin and yang will feel weird oftentimes and if you have an artistic brain the programming will kill your soul but such is life.
>>76330234
Tfw you dropped from God tier (physics) to low tier (IT) for a job opportunity that turned out to be shit.
>>76335087
If it's a joint degree with something applied like mech
>>76330234
>tfw I'm bad at all the high tier subjects
Fuck I wish I wasn't so retarded at anything STEM related.
>>76335198
>be comp eng
>80k usd starting
not even joking breh
>>76331264
>>Why is civil and mech engineering downgraded?
because the aspie who made the chart said so
stop reposting this bullshit. it's one person's opinion.
>>76335097
Right, because Doctor Goldstein can totally prevent microbes from fucking your water up.
>>76335087
It's engineering for retards, but it's also undoubtedly needed. Top tier as long as you don't have an ego
>>76335198
43k US is not good. That's horrible.
>>76334487
> Jew
> economics
What a surprise
>>76335170
>major in International Business
>Be forced to take a language and blemish your GPA because you suck as languages
dont care though. getting a job at one of the largest logistics firms in the country and can only speak english
>>76334900
> £30k
Everything is more expensive there, too. Enjoy living in poverty surrounded by Muslims.
>>76335170
Why did you obviously post a math Ph.d when you are humanit-shitter major?
>>76335381
industrial engineering student here
ok. i can live with that...
Let's be honest, is theology a career? I'd love to be one
>>76335170
Physics here - own my own business and am worth over $20mil - I'm only 30. Suck it faggot.
>>76330234
Depends what you concentrate in. I'm a 3rd year doctoral student at McGill and there are literally zero liberals in the PhD program. Only a couple in the MA program.
Good pay too, I work for Pugwash and a few other non-proliferation consultancies in Canada and the US and travel a lot (Prague/Paris last year for secuirty policy and climate policy meetings with world leaders. Even met a few very cool delegates from Russia over the 6 weeks.) You just need to be dedicated and get involved and love what you do.
Don't listen to STEM idiots if they say it's a waste of time - believe me it is not. I got a BSc in Chem before I got my Poli Sci undergrad and then into this. Wouldn't change a thing. Any degree is what you make it.
Sage all advice other than this. I guarantee no one else on /pol/ has this much experience in either field.
>>76334911
It should either be low or shit tier.
>>76332022
>A business degree from a US public university gets you nowhere in the US
just stop talking
>>76330234
Are you rich? Are your parents rich? Don't pick anything below top tier unless you want to be a sandwich artist.
>>76330234
God-of-gods tier PhD in both mathematics and Engineering reporting in.
>>76335424
It's a pretty good salary in the UK. Most other graduates won't be earning 30k+ for at least 10 years after graduation whereas in software development you can expect that fairly shortly.
>>76330234
Computer science "waste of life" tier?
Kek?
My first job out of college with a CS degree started me at 75k with full benefits and 7% 401k matching. Are you, perhaps, an aut major? As in, a professional autist?
Physics and chemistry are not better degrees than mech or civil engineering you fucking doofus.
>>76335873
>God-of-gods tier
But that's not medicine.
>>76330234
>I want a job in politics
here's your problem.
>>76335952
t. Undergrad who only took up to Calc III
>>76330234
>MFW 2 Shit Tier Degrees
>>76335904
My first job after God-tier PhD paid $200k + 401k + stock options now worth $1.5m
> Math and physics in god tier
> Mech E in shit tier tier
What is the list based off of, because evidently not on the ability to make money or find a job.
What about Geoscience's?
>>76334644
Why?
>>76330234
>theology mid tier
>above music
waste of life: language
are you retarded? how is studying imaginary people more impressive than learning mandarin chinese or arabic or russian? you're a fag dude
>>76335885
> Most other graduates won't be earning 30k+ for at least 10 years after graduation
fuck thats depressing. why bother with life at all?
>>76335989
I have 3 MDs working for me.
>>76335904
>My first job out of college with a CS degree started me at 75k with full benefits and 7% 401k matching. Are you, perhaps, an aut major? As in, a professional autist?
He's just jelly that his autistic passions are worthless
Coding is fun, makes you a good living and everyone thinks you're a rocket scientist because most people are utterly computer illiterate. Life is good.
>>76335873
Gods-of-Gods-of-Gods tier PhD in physics and chemistry reporting in.try harder m8.
>he thinks college will make him successful
>>76335904
Stfu you are ruining it for the rest of us
What is the tier list for trades? Is it even worth it to get one?
>>76336093
Shit tier unless in petroleum
>>76335651
I don't believe that for a second because someone arrogant enough to make that post isn't making that kind of money
>political science
>for politics
If you have your heart set on a politics degree, at least see if you can do a Politics and Economic degree at the very lest
>>76336162
Well I live pretty much as far away from London as possible and still be in England. So my expenses are tiny. Like seriously houses where I live cost about 90k.
But if everywhere was like London then yeah I'd be getting out and earning $100k somewhere in the US.
>>76336215
>hunter gatherer
>low tier
What an absolutely uninformed list
>>76336166
What a coincidence, I'm an MD and I have 3 engineering PhDs mopping my floors and bringing me coffee. You can definitely believe me though, it's the internet.
>>76336215
>he thinks he can have a opinion with this flag
>>76336162
>why bother with life at all?
>tfw doing a combined Business and Mandarin degree
I don't know
Who else is a CS major that's starting to hate their field now?
It's become so mindless, it's filled with Pajeets, and pretty much every programmer/IT person is hated by business people.
The pay is good but that's about it.
I'm looking at transitioning to a BA role and getting out of development and IT.
COMPUTER SCIENCE WASTE OF LIFE TIER AM I GOING INSANE
>>76330234
>mid tier (economics)
>work at a grocery store
yay.
>>76330234
>mathematics/physics/engineering on top
>computer science on bottom
CAREFUL WITH THAT EDGE
>>76336456
why is economics a shitty major?
>>76336147
It has no basis in reality.
>>76330234
these infographics always trigger me so fuckin' hard tbqh..
STEM is a meme.
Also, as for polsci, the biggest problem with it is that it falls into the category of one of those degrees that doesn't really teach you anything very practical, and is generally considered to be a vastly easier degree intended for the slow kids who couldn't quite into law, philosophy, history or perhaps even english lit.
desu god tier degrees at the moment are probably mostly business/finance orientated ones, law is oversaturated with shit, and unless you're coming out of an ivy law school, good luck finding decent employment.
>>76336429
>Mandarin
first problem one of your degrees is a language
>>76336547
you obviously haven't been to college then.
>>76336215
How do I become a professional welfare recipient?
>>76336449
>It's become so mindless, it's filled with Pajeets, and pretty much every programmer/IT person is hated by business people.
Work in a smaller company where the business people are also programmers. Might be lower paid but it's worth it.
>>76336537
whats better? Accounting? Finance? Business administration? International business?
>>76336361
>cost of living dirt cheap
how is life away from the desk?
>>76336551
>not understanding the value of a languages degree
wew
>>76336643
t. assmad STEM kiddie
how's your 300k/yr. starting salary from your math major treating you?
How the fuck is engineering god tier
>>76336703
Business administration
>>76336174
This. I love the daily challenges and puzzles involved with coding. Comparwd to most millennials entering the work force, I'm extremely well paid. For doing something I find fun and is a respectable career. Happy life desu famalam.
>>76336073
What is this supposed to mean? A degree in physics will land you a job teaching high school physics. Have fun drawing blocks on inclined planes faggot.
Whats the problem with Computer Science? I initially had Engineering but changed it to that did i make a huge mistake or is this just memesters at play?
>>76336744
Pretty good, you're never far from the seaside or countryside where ever you are in England. The city I live in is really good, some northern cities are shit holes but the one I live in is low crime and always has stuff to do.
Weather is shit but that story is the same every where in this country.
>>76330234
>Law
>Low tier
invalidated. Where's the real tier list
>>76336794
>thinking language degrees matter at all
what are you Japanese?
also the 200k/yr salary is doing me just fine.
>Shit Tier - Everything that's not listed
Architecture is not listed you faggot
>>76330234
>mfw CS/math double major
I'm a God that's wasting your life, faggot
>>76335198
yea my gf makes that in HR two years out of college.
>>76337010
It is though, mostly due to the really high unemployment rates.
>>76336703
Accounting is solid. Tax accounting especially. Relatively well paid, good job market. Not very intellectually demanding.
Finance is okay, but kind of tough to get a great job in it. If you're a really bright motherfucker, some finance folks make crazy fucking money.
>>76335087
I'm interning with Lowe's right now and we had a top guy come in and talk about supply chain management/industrial engineering and it was much more interesting than I would have anticipated. 7.5/10 major
>>76330234
>Philosophy
>Mid-Tier
>Arts
>Waste of life tier
I'm fucking triggered. Art is shit tier at least.
>>76336703
Accountants are always in demand
>>76330234
>waste of life
>comp sci
C'mon, CS is an engineering field. You can actually get registered as a PE with CS.
...I typed that out, and then I noticed the
>>>>>>LEAF<<<<<<<
>>76330234
>law
>low tier
Maybe if you're an undergrad degree in law, but that's some stupid shit.
This entire chart is retarded, Doctors and Lawyers make the most, period. They are top tier along with Petroleum engineers.
http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/rankings/best-paying-jobs
>>76330234
I actually might go for theology soon
>>76336969
For me, it's just become so mindless and dull, and now there are Indians everywhere I go now. My company has hired hundreds of Indians at this point.
Still not a bad degree if you do the internships and make connections so you can get a good offer. I guess I just ended up hating it over time when I thought I'd actually enjoy it after getting out of college.
>>76337034
even if you never plan on using the language at all, the very fact that you speak it is a huge plus to employers, as apart from anything else, the degrees are generally quite difficult, and languages are usually pretty hard to grasp for a lot of people.
Doing mandarin and business would be a great combo as it opens up the potential to break into the massive and lucrative emerging market that is China.
>>76330234
So is regarding history as "shit tier" the reason /pol/ is a bunch of fucking idiots when it comes to history?
>>76336449
I don't blame ya, the red tape and restrictions with code releases can be very frustrating (I'm assuming you're in a corporate environment). Working with the pajeets can suck until you figure out which ones are good and which ones suck.
I graduate in a year with a Civil Engineering degree. Really wish I had went mech or Computer.
What are the chances I get a job with NASA or Disney?
>>76337461
i understand it in your context but in almost any other career that doesn't need alot of social skills like most everything us robots go into it is useless
>>76336794
你好哦,我也学习普通话。
>>76330234
Dude in Canada you should be getting into teaching with the bachelor of education thats where all the best lefties come from.
4.0 Econ student here. Would recommend. Anyone else /law school/ here? Gettin into that dank tax law.
>geology
>low tier
>>76330234
Computer science where it is literally to piss the board off
>>76337216
fucking this.
supply chain maintenece and also logistics is a fucking GOAT career direction. applicable to nearly any industry desired and huge potential bank, espicially in the oil/gas field
In Germany only engineers, doctors and finance people matter. Oh and we also need many more imams
Good underrated field is logistics/supply chain nowadays. Lots of new complex jobs with high pay
>>76337668
謊言,你用翻譯
>>76330234
>Philosophy, Theology in mid tier
>IT in low tier
Good luck getting a job.
>>76337778
I have 6 years military experience in supply chain management, idk where to begin to look for related civilian jobs.
>>76336969
of course its memesters at play
(as long as you're doing actually comp sci - which is to say applied math; not that liberal arts alternative.)
>Business is shit tier
>philosophy isnt
Op is a faggot kill yourself
>>76337777
LOOK AT THOSE QUADS
KEK HAS SPOKEN
anyway, guys... we are seeing engineering jobs leave our country. i'm an EE in the field and my company is about to ship testing to another country. i'm doing with engineering. fuck it
>>76337582
If you're bright enough to graduate with an engineering degree, you're bright enough to learn computer science. A CS degree is not necessary to be a programmer. You can learn any programming language for free on the Internet. If you can operate a computer at a level above baby boomers, you can learn to be a programmer. It can be frustrating but it's not too late, anon.
>>76330234
>Law not God Tier
Nigger I just finished law school at 24, starting at BigLaw w/ starting salary of $160k.
BREAKING
>>76337945
Most start by working in warehousing and work there way up through management. I lucked out through a connection at corporate though for the firm where im at
>>76338116
>Things that never happened.
Forgot to mention; everyone shitting in economics and finance are doing it to convince as many gullible fucks on here as possible to not enter the field so we get paid more. My father got a masters in finance and made $120k starting at a major firm in the 80s.
Wanna get rich without working that hard? Major in Econ or finance
>>76330234
>philosophy higher than psychology
Wew lad
>>76337668
>>76337932
don't speak mandarin, but would like to learn.
I own my own business, and a lot of our distributors are based in China, although they all can correspond in english to at least a certain extent, it'd be nice to be able to communicate with them in mandarin too, especially since within the next few decades, China will be an even more dominant superpower.
>>76337932
我不用翻译,有拼音输入法。
什么鬼呢,你用繁体字吗?为什么学习繁体字和普通话?笨的。你想去香港,学习粤话。中国用简体字,所以学习繁体字很无用的
>>76330234
Fuck, /pol/, I'm studying design while I could have chosen engineering. What should I do?
>>76330234
Mech eng should be God Tier too anything that's not digital has moving parts. It should be except civil/industrial operations/evironmental. Having just graduated with an EE degree I can attest that those three are a meme degree.
>>76338204
It's not uncommon, faggot. T14 law schools feed into BigLaw. I just happened to go to law school straight after undergrad.
>>76338174
Oh fuggg
It's real
>>76338116
I find it hard to believe that any job gives someone 160k starting. I assume you live in SF or NYC
>>76338346
Join the army for the upcoming race war
>>76336093
>global warming meme
>>76336187
Which is the best investigation line for a ms in material science IYO? I'm leaning towards condensed matter, but I'm getting second thoughts.
>>76338304
It's pretty fun to learn compared to others. With the characters, you have much more convenient ways to remember words
>>76338486
Nigger biglaw salaries are standardized across the board, with set raises each year. Google "biglaw starting salary." It's $160k in major cities, ~$140k in bumfucks. LA, SF, NY, Miami, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, etc.
>>76338526
not a whole lot to work from in that field m8.
>>76338116
>starting salary of $160k.
Meh, I make 120k as a software engineer in the south. It's usually more than most people I meet.
>>76330234
Mathematics, Physics, and Chemistry aren't god tier. They don't make much money and a major portion of your future "industry" is limited to academia.
>>76338695
That's the pay in biglaw.
http://www.nytimes com/2015/04/17/business/dealbook/welcome-to-your-first-year-as-a-lawyer-your-salary-is-160000-a-year.html?_r=0
>>76331588
Theology comes with one of the lowest expected salaries. Not sure if that's based on actual salaries, likelihood of finding employment, or the product of the two though.
That said, why on Earth would you want to study it anyway?
>>76331264
I was thinking the exact same thing. If anything they are the most competitive disciplines because most want to go into them.
>>76331588
dude on a serious note do not go into theology.there are literally no jobs in that feild
>>76330234
Engineering Master Race signing in
>>76337945
Walmart
Lowe's
Any big box retailer.
getting a master's in mech e right now
i don't think it's a lower tier than chemical or electrical e, honestly
perhaps electrical is more difficult than mech but idk about jobs
also placement depends a lot on where you are willing to work
civil/mech e is huge in the places like dubai, doha bc they're doing a lot of building and are heavily reliant on air conditioning
>>76338786
>Posts a random article instead of a paycheck.
Wanna know how I know you're lying?
>>76330234
>law
>lower than economics
cucked.
How do I get into biglaw pls
engineering in the US is starting to die.
so many jobs leaving the country. engineering jobs being done for pennies on the dollar outside of the country.
H1-B's being paid pennies on the dollar to avoid having to pay a nice salary to an American citizen.
New guys, you should go until defense industry. Local govt. Anything that requires US citizenship.
>>76338304
One thing I've been taught (but not yet put into practice) is that if you can speak in Mandarin to a Chinese person, you are less likely to get scammed, more likely to get good deals, and gain more respect
I'm off to Beijing in a few days so I'll be putting this to the test
>>76339070
You mean direct deposit?
Also
>implying anyone is stupid enough to post anything identifying on /pol/
Wouldn't really work out for me, and I don't give a fuck what a NEET who can't imagine others being successful thinks.
>>76330234
> medicine
> not god tier
I just spent the day saving lives and I make 300 bucks an hour. On your knees peasants.
But seriously, my job is the shit.
>>76338264
>psychology
>not an absolute meme-tier major
wew lad
>>76338539
yeah, i was actually in China on business around a year ago, and found the language pretty interesting, had a college friend of mine with me who is Chinese (and my business partner) and did all the translating. It's a cool language, and i'm sure i'll probably have to learn it sooner or later 2bh
>theology
>not in shit/waste of life tier
Bible thumpers are cancer
>>76336535
It's just applied Calculus. If you wanna do Economics as a profession you should major in Math and then go to grade school.
Really it just shows you're semi-intelligent. Without connections it's useless.
>>76339381
when do you level up to jew doctor that just sells overpriced pills people don't need as a job?
>>76339381
how many years did you study? how much did it cost you?
I was always interested in the med field i decided to pursuer compsci instead though
>>76339533
*grad school
It's not a bad major, just won't get you anywhere on its own like engineering.
>>76330234
>Theology
>>76339381
but
>$300,000,000 plus tip in debt
>>76339533
So what's the best business major in your opinion?
>>76339210
a piece of advice i'd offer you if you plan on going to barter for stuff anywhere in Beijing is to be firm with them, and offer around 10-15% of what they're asking for the good. They see foreigners and treat us like cash cows, and usually manage to rip off people who aren't savvy to how things work in cultures that barter more.
Also, a good place in Beijing to go shopping for souvenirs/fake clothes, watches, etc. is Silk Street Market.
>/pol/ thinks petroleum engineers are going to have jobs 20 years from now
fucking kek
>>76330641
First post fucking best post.
I had an ex who was a pro at shit talking, polisci major. What a biatch
Unless you want to be a pastor/priest/reverend/(Sunday school/religion) teacher, there really isn't much point to studying theology
>cultural anthropology
>shit tier
I'm literally hipster Jesus.
I travel the world with a notebook of sketches of the underaged B& girls I've made love to after courting them in their cultural context
>tfw I have several bounties on my head in south america and am indirectly responsible for 6 honor killings
>>76339936
In university/college, I mean
>>76339869
is the second one in the middle of a stroke?
>>76339936
It's one of those things I'd do if I was already set for life.
>>76339936
Yes, that's exactly why people study Theology
>>76339185
please stop pushing this meme
yes if you are a shitty engineer your job is going to get taken. the days of getting a 2.0 gpa in engineering and getting a job afterwards anyway is probably over
if you actually take the time to know what you are doing you will get employed. at the end of the day you get what you pay for and employers know this
Is piloting a viable career for 2016 and above?I have been hearing pretty negative things about it so far and was wondering if its something to aspire to
>>76339847
youre legit fucking retarded
>>76339936
THE PRIESTHOOD IS RISING
>>76340258
>/pol/ is this asspained and desperate about it, too
FUCKING
K E K
>>76339545
I do emergency medicine/critical care. I treat very unstable people when they initially arrive. Minimal Jewishness in my job.
>>76340410
despite what greenpeace tells you, its not going anywhere. oil will be used heavily for the rest of our lives
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/petroleum-engineers.htm
>>76330234
>Information Technology being low tier
Geographic Information Science can't be that bad
>>76335653
so what did you concentrate in, international relations?
>>76339813
yep we ended up having two lectures on bartering
we got told 太贵了 is probably the most useful phrase
I'll take a look at Silk Street. Thanks
>>76339557
Took me two tries to get in after undergrad. I went to a cheap university, and saved my GI bill for grad school. I have only 50 k of debt now. Sure my training isnt super prestigious (top notch grad schools are infested with veteran hating liberals and Muslims anyway) but I positioned my self to work in a relatively lucrative market place for my skillset.
>>76339533
>It's just applied Calculus
If you're a retarded Neoclassical economist, maybe.
>>76339869
used to date a girl who was a polsci major from Georgetown Uni, she came across very well when it came to first impressions, but the more that you got into politics with her, the more you realized how full of shit and clueless she was.
>>76340773
yeah, that'll definitely be useful - be prepared as the Chinese tend to get very emotional when it comes to bartering. Be prepared to have them shout or talk very loudly as a way to pressure you into paying a higher price for it, and also don't be surprised if when you try and walk away if they refuse to come down on a price, for them to run after you and grab ahold of you and tell you that they changed their minds, it's actually pretty hilarious to witness how they do it.
Also, you can always speak english if your chinese fails, but it's definitely a good idea to start out with the Chinese, they will probably be less likely to take you for as much of a gullible tourist that way.
>>76340951
What was your GPA/MCAT? Any notable extracurriculars?
>>76336684
the more checked off the better your prospects:
[]Black
[]Poor(only if another is checkd off)
[]Women
[]single parent (only if women is checked off)
>>76330234
>Teacher
>Low Tier
>Making $80,000 a year
>Spend all day checking out high school girls
>computer science
>bad
just because you got your shit degree in a CC doesn't mean always bad.
>>76339457
>meme tier
>able to work autonomously
Yeah yeah, keep working your ass off for some other person's profit, you big cuck.
>>76330234
What is wrong with computer engineering?
I dont know how it is outside Spain, but I did it here, and I cant think of a degree where you learn more. You go all the way from transistor level to software, touching whatever points you want (dsp, system modeling, AI, graphic processing, etc)
>Low Tier: Information Technology
I call bullshit on that. IT should be up either in Top or God Tier.
>>76342040
Is there a difference between computer science and computer engineering, or its the same thing?
>>76342097
there's a shitload of ppl learning that shit now so less opportunities
also STEM meme
>>76335585
>humanit-shitter
That is perhaps the worst attempt at trying to insult someone i have ever seen. cringe.
>>76331209
This
>>76342692
Yes. CompSci is code monkey, programming, stuff like that. Computer Engineers design the hardware that the CompSci graduates use to make their programs.
>>76342050
>psychology
>autonomous work
please, enlighten me as to what exactly sets psychology apart from any other wage cuck job?
Also, in case you didn't read the next sentence of my post, I own my own business, so working my ass off directly benefits me - it's harder work than a wage cuck job but infinitely more rewarding.
>>76342793
I don't think so. It is a pretty hard degree, at least the way I did it.
As I said, I had to study everything from semiconductor physics to programming languages.
Anyways, I know people who did, theoretically, the same degree on other universities, and they are a joke. They don't have a clue of what they are talking about.
>>76342845
I did it and it was not limited to hardware. In fact, if I were going to design hardware, for example, motherboards, I would have to learn some things I did not enter into (HS PCB design)
But anyways, I don't remember half of the things, because I don't use them and it's imposible to remember everything. The important thing is I acquired the capability to open a book about any topic on the matter, and learn everything in a short period of time.
I'm an environmental science major at an Ivy League uni. I was accounting but it was so boring I wanted to die
>>76343043
I own my own clinic and earn the equivalent of 90k usd, which is enough for me to be in the 1% here. I treat a lot of people and don't really have to worry about much more, other than the occasional work with someone from social services, maintaining my finances and doing some advertising.
Psychology can be useless if the graduate pursues a useless branch, like social psychology, but it's great if you are competent and like doing work with people.
I admit I didn't read the rest of your post though.
>>76341555
Go away FBI
I really hate these threads desu
It's all about connections in life. I know a girl who majored in communications of all things and has an 80k job right out of school
You can make most everything work if you know the right people
>>76330234
Petroleum Engineering.
>>76344007
When I say that a major is meme-tier, that's not to say that it is NEVER going to be worth doing, it's just that at least in the US, you'd be hard pressed to make a decent living with psychology - there are certainly some who can make very decent money through it by playing their cards right, like you have, and starting their own practice, or something like that, but the trouble is that you're in the minority, most people won't be able to do what you've done, and would be better off pursuing a different major.
So I'm thinking about either going into CompSci or Law. What do you think, /pol/?
>Average GPA (3.26)
>Average ACT (27)
>Average scores on AP tests (I got a 3 on APWH, APUSH and AP Lang and Comp and a 4 on AP Computer Science. I'm still waiting on my AP Chem score.
>inb4 underage/newfag
>>76335492
Learning a language takes the same kind of studying and memorization skills it takes for any other class. You can admit you just don't have any interest in it, you know.
>>76340557
do u realize crude oil dropped below $30 earlier this year? trust me, i knew because i took a bit hit on trading crude oil futures.
look how many people lost their jobs. the reality is that crude oil is a limited commodity meaning there is only a certain number of barrels. I believe that number is about 1 trillion. with all cars going electric in the next few years, the US will be less dependent on oil. causing spot price to plummet. companies go bankrupt, etc. so yes, petroleum jobs will disappear.
what about a business major?
>>76344206
That, or if you're a hard working bad ass mother fucker who doesnt lie down like a bitch in the face of adversity. But yeah, having or making connections with the right people is key to success.
>>76344858
go into healthcare faggot.
people get sick every day. impossible to export those types of jobs overseas.
engineering is practically dead.
do u know how many unemployed lawyers there currently are? kek
>>76344809
You're right about most people not really being able to be successful, but that goes for any course.
I just saw you calling psychology meme-tier and switched into shitposting mode.
>>76344858
I don't know anything about law.
I am a computer science student right now, and I will tell you this: you better like math if you want to be good at this stuff. The whole "CS people are stupid" meme comes from the fact that a million tards enter CS courses at mid-tier universities every year because "I like teh make da vidya games". Those people are chased out of the program at any school worth its salt, and at lesser schools released into the world as retards incapable of doing anything worthwhile.
If the degree is called "software engineering" instead of computer science, it's worthless.
If it's computer science and there aren't multiple 300 and 400 level math classes you have to take (especially discrete math and number theory), again, it's worthless.
>>76330234
> made up shit > god tier
> things that give you tools to rule the world > mid tier
> muh science
>>76344206
>tfw the asian slut who spent 6 years in university for no reason is now working for Bernie's campaign despite being Canadian...
Why is computer science shit tier?
>>76345769
Indians
>>76345805
Source?
>>76337475
Yeah.
>>76344858
I assume you mean for undergrad?
I'd advise against law, as it really won't help you get into law school at all, and you'd probably be better off with something like philosophy, history, etc.
Comp Sci is one of these mid level kind of majors that can really be hit or miss, i'd advise against it, since like most other STEM fields, it's very easy to outsource, and is quite an oversaturated market at the moment.
Granted, this is the exact same case for law, but it's more highly regarded than comp sci.
If your end goal is law school, and not just an undergrad degree, take pretty much anything and then just do the LSAT.
>>76345044
People on here will probably scoff at a business major, but I did a BS in Bus. Admin. and it's been great for me, as I was able to knock off a year for my MBA, meaning that I was finished college and grad school within only 5 years, instead of the 6-7 that people would usually spend going for an MBA.
If you can go to a good school for your post grad, you'll be 100% safe with a business degree of any kind.
>>76345308
No problem, m8 - perhaps I was a little harsh on psych when I called it meme-tier, but at least from my experience with psych majors in the US, this tends to be the case, that being said, there are certainly ways that it can be an extremely good pay off, especially if you enjoy that kind of work (working with people, etc.).
>>76334487
> flag
> economics
kek
>>76345480
I've been working as a software engineer at IBM for a few years since I graduated and I never used any of my math/CS knowledge beyond data structures/algorithms.
>>76345847
Lack of loos
>Studying for a degree in Computer Engineering
>Just finished my second year
>Hate it
Why did I have to fall for the STEM meme? Why didn't I go with my gut and study Astronomy? I don't care if it's mid tier, it's what I've always been interested in.
FUCK.
>>76345969
Evolutionary psychology is a GOAT field that actually involves studying useful things and applying them to society, it usually leads to a red pilling as well since it's anti-blank slate and all about understanding true human nature.
If anyone here is interested in psychology I would definitely recommend specializing in it.
>>76344206
We're talking about degree value without connections obviously. Doesn't matter what the fuck you do in life if you know powerful people willing to help you out. Or if ur a hot chick willing to blow the head dude. its offensive that u consider this story worth sharing to nerds with no connections.
>>76346064
>Astronomy isn't a science
>Does't change major despite hating the classes
Some people go to college to find out what they don't want to do, anon. You don't have to sit through that if you don't want to.
>>76345480
Math actually has been my strong suit
I was the first person in my school system to complete the retarded common core math program (it's just trig for 3 fucking classes!). I also did these weird partial college credit calculus classes up to calc II. I have no clue if my college will take them or not, they haven't gotten back to me.
I used to hang out with the weeb crowd and they would sit around after school making games in flixel acting like they were coding the damned matrix or some shit. It pissed me off because they had no clue of the real concepts that made their games run, it was just a magic box they drew shitty pixel art onto.
>combined major in Economics and Political Science
how fucked am i?
>>76331102
When you see the quality of the "engineers" they are churning out, you begin to realise why experience counts for more than extra degrees in engineering
>>76346583
What's your actual career goal? What do you want your job title to be? If it's state representative then you're fucked but if it's a political analyst type job you might be set.
>>76337313
>CS is an engineering field
Do CS actually belive this?
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>>76330234
>Waste of Life Tier: /Computer science.
"Cybersecurity professionals report an average salary of $116,000, or approximately $55.77 per hour."
>>76346724
A good friend of mine became the actual World Champion in robotics. He's going into biomechanical engineering, so that alone will put him ahead of anyone who sat on ass in high school
>>76330234
>chemistry
>god tier
sure if you want no money and like sitting in a lab all day doing repetitive work
Chemical engineer though is god tier
>>76334945
What do you do?
>>76346499
>Astronomy isn't a science
Shit, I really meant to refer to Engineering specifically. My bad.
>Some people go to college to find out what they don't want to do, anon.
You're definitely right about that, friend.
>You don't have to sit through that if you don't want to.
I know, but I just feel like I've already spent a load of time and money on it. I didn't really realise just how much I hated it until the tail end of my second year. I blame myself completely and I want to fix things but I'm not sure what the best course of action is.
The student support for this kind of things is balls at my uni, several students on my course have also voiced concerns but have just been told to 'stick with it'.
>>76347072
> I have the choices between hiring someone with just one year experience or someone who won a high school project
There's only one clear cut in that position.
Key to getting ahead in engineering is finding a good graduate program.
>>76344206
I went to an elite private school, good college, crummy poliSci grad school. I am social but made ZERO connections. Growing up, we knew a high-ranking businessman and a State Dept. officer... As the saying goes, "Who do I have to blow to get [a decent job]?
>>76330234
English is really that bad? Its pretty versatile if you ask me. Unlike something like journalism where you are restricted to very few jobs English can go anywhere pretty much. There are a lot of companies that will hire english majors to do things like write up reports. You could also get into writing just about anything. A lot of journalists are english majors. Why is it so bad?
I would actually like some advice. Im trying to become a sports writer but I felt majoring in journalism would be retarded because I would be forced to be a journalist. As mentioned above Id like a versatile major where if journalism doesnt work out I can apply for any job that requires knowledge of writing/grammar.
>>76346304
I feel like too many people go into psych majors thinking "Oh, I'm basically going to be a therapist, all I need to know is how to listen to people"
Then they get fucked by all the behavioral science.
>>76348748
Being able to write in English like an intelligent human being and being able to analyze James Joyce isn't exactly a skillset with high market value.
>>76348950
That's exactly what happens, then they either struggle with it and follow some other branch ou just drop out. Happened to 80% of the people i studied with.
>>76349305
Communications is another major that sports writers generally gravitate towards. Im in my first year of college so Im just trying to figure out my best option. My teacher who actually is a sports writer told me to major in journalism. I'm just scared it's going to be too competitive to find a job once I finish my degree. Communications is another major a lot of sports writers gravitate towards.
>>76350120
Fuck repeated myself there. Didnt mean to do that.
Comp sci here. My starting salary is $105k but that's in Bay Area for a Fortune 10 corporation.
The salary almost isn't enough to live, fuck me.
>>76330234
>Economics is mid-tier
You guys are straight fucking retarded
