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The EU: Help me argue with this cuck
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Some moron on my friends list on Facebook wrote this. Let's rip it apart. GIve me arguments and let me rip him to shreds.

Thanks in advance
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>>76301199
affects of the eurozone in southern europe
uk will have to join eu sooner or later if stays in
eu army to fight russia
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>>76301727
*eurozone
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mfw no one cares
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>>76301727

But I need to destroy each argument individually> But yeah the eurozone is a shitshow
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>>76301772
You made it a bit low-effort on your part and did not highlight the most troublesome quotes for argument. We arent going to fight your battles in its entirety, mister Osama.
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>>76301956

Actually that's fair enough. My bad, I can argue some of it I just thought I could ask you guys for help too. Sorry my bad
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>>76302111
Just highlight the most complicated parts and we can start from there. No point in us preaching to the choir about things you already can competently refute.
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>>76302743
Okay then
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Blue bits are what I want to talk about. Feel free to explain the rest but I can do them
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BUMP WITH TRUMP
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wow... i am now riding the #bremaintrain
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>>76303673

Better not be a remainer ;)
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>>76303397
I don't care if it's apparently beneficial. Why are you forced to follow the orders of a governing body you didn't fucking elect? They could be handing out free blow jobs and solid gold helmets. I didn't elect them; they don't get to fucking tell me what to do.
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>>76303523

Ty annon
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>>76303803

The UK don't seem to give a shit about democracy and sovereignty. They're cuckolded
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Literally all of that could've been done without the EU, the EU didn't do most of it, and everything was tending towards it anyway.
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>>76303397
>What has EU ever done for the uk

>Providing 57% of our trade
A pointless figure, since you dont need to be in the EU to trade with the EU. Norway and Switzerland is a decent example on how a nation can keep healthy trade relations up even without Brussels interference.

>lead-free petrol
That is an implication that without EU paperwork, all petrol would be as filthy as possible and the only thing avoiding brittain from going full industrial pollution apocalypse is the will of bureaucrats in brussels. Brittain has an enviromentalist party and its a considerable force in the political sphere, and can keep the nation "green" even without EU´s interference.

>improved consumer protection and labeling
This brings to mind the anecdote by Stephan about british salmon smoker being forced to pay tens of thoulsands of pounds, just to put on their product that:" It contains fish".

Its overly regulated, and idiotic in the worst of times, and the jokes about banana curves are not far fetched.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zc_q9p9iYg memeneux video on it, you can find a lot of brexit refutation material there]

>ban on growth hormones and other harmful food additives
Like brittain is incapable of not poisoning its populace without some EU bureaucrats finger waggling

>Europe wide patent and copyright protection
aka: no information sharing or pirating or you will be sued to oblivion. Literally allowing hollywood to sue random grandma for not licensing a song for her youtube video

>no paperwork or costoms for exports throughout single market
But, EU standards that cost every business in brittain, INCLUDING ones that never export outside, to submit to EU standards that are massive costs directly to the starting up businesses, not the already massive corporations that can have lawyers navigate thorugh the web of bureacuracy.

>labor protection and enhanced social welfare
No fucking clue on what the fuck you are on about there, but Being in the EU guar[1/,,,]
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>>76303397
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>labor protection and enhanced social welfare
Oh, like Europe did in Greece where the entire union was forced to pay for greekshits overly generous pensions and bonuses? And how even now, we will be forced to foot the bill for them?

Brittain can save a lot more, if it first and foremost cares about its own citizens, not about Europe as whole and does not bail out socialist nations there.

>smoke-free workplaces
Literally, are you saying that america, canada and Australia has everyone smoking like a chimney in every day offices? No, you imbecil, its become a modern culture everywhere, and it certainly did not originate from the EU.

Well, maybe it did. Hitler was the first recognized anti-smoke advocate, after all.


>Right not to work for more than 48 hour week without overtime
Again, its possible for Brittain itself to manage this, and its labor party has managed to invite this into it.

>Strongest wildlife protection in the world
What the fuck does Brussels bureaucrats know about what is delicate and not in Brittain? This is entirely up to Brits themselves to decide what they consider historically or ecologically important, and EU makes zero investigation itself.

>improved animal welfare and food production
Organic farming and "free range" is a scam for idiots that try to play the moral high-ground for natural processes. I have little more to say in that part because i am not a farmer or a tree hugger.

>EU funded insustrial and research collaboration
You pay more to the EU than you get in return, there is no point in, instead of that money directly invested in improving the nations scientific fields or industrial capacity, has to go through a circus of rubber-stamping through the EU, before it ends up in the hands of scientists or industrialists. Its a redundant extra circle that diminishes the money spent, not enhances it.
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Cheers Estonia fag, you put too much work into that to be ignored.
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>>76303397
I'll put in my two cents

>Providing 57% of our trade
You can trade with EU countries without being in the EU, Norway and Switzerland are examples.
>Structural funding to areas hit by industrial decline
A decline caused by the Common Market that was introduced with the EU. It completely fucked Brittain's fishery for example, as also shown in the Brexit movie.
>Cleaner beaches and rivers
Could also be achieved through international agreement, there is no need for a Union here.
>Improved consumer protection and food labelling
By making producers put inane shit on labels, like having "Contains fish" labels on fucking fish.
>Freedom to travel, live and work across Europe
This is also possible without the EU, temporary emigration for education and work visas existed before the EU did. Could also be achieved through international treaties.
>Smoke free workplaces
This has put many bars in my country out of business for what is effectively virtue signaling.
>Holiday entitlement
Didn't the Nazis invent that shit? The EU doesn't get to take credit for that.
>Strongest wildlife protection in the world
And yet these animals still keep dying, funny how we can't just invade Africa to stop them from killing lions.
>Cross border policing to combat human trafficking
Scratch that, we're seeing it work in practise with the refugee crisis, and it is ineffective at best.
>Support for democracy and human rights across Europe and beyond
The European Union is not democratic, the ones deciding which laws are presented to the Parliament are not chosen by the people.
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>>76303397
>EU representation on international forums:
aka, Britain does what Brussels tells it to do. You do not have extra voice, you have your voice hijacked and used for the furtherment of EU superstate. There is no benefit gleamed from submission to EU groupthink.

>Strongest voice in WTO

That would be america and china. Europe, especially the union type has little say, since their voice is more than easily eclipsed by random arab or african nations, or by america or china by sheer power and influence.

To be honest, WTO does little else but put forward rules that its most unruly members dont follow anyway.

>Investment across Europe contributing for better living standards and educational, social and cultural capital.
Yes, that is all fine and dandy, but that investment reaches people who need it AFTER it has gone through the biggest and most anti-democratic bureacracy in the planet. What reaches the actual innovators, educators and social progressives is just a shadow of the sums put forward at first.

Corruption, mismanagment and general length of the travel for the money is insane,

>Furthermore assisted the extraordinary political, social and economic transformation of 13 former dictatorships, now EU members, since 1980

Bitchtits, the fall of soviet union was american archivement, while EU in its infancy did not exist or pursue any soft of conflict with the russians. If you want to thank someone for it, thank the Yanks for more or less winning the cold war [with later getting fucked up by the soviet long term infiltration]

>Now the union faces major challenges brought on by neoliberal economic globalization, and worsened by its own systemic weaknesses its taking measures to overcome these.

Oh really? Because last i recall, EU instead takes issue with nations not voting in their favor, instead of with the blatant misuse some older members have in the single market.

EU has problems, and its not fixing them, instead just dangling--
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>>76303397
>Now the union faces major challenges brought on by neoliberal economic globalization, and worsened by its own systemic weaknesses its taking measures to overcome these.

Oh really? Because last i recall, EU instead takes issue with nations not voting in their favor, instead of with the blatant misuse some older members have in the single market.

EU has problems, and its not fixing them, instead just dangling the scarecrow of globalism in everyones face while the system continues its tortured exitence.

Subsidies in farming are ludicrisly unequal, with French farmers for an example getting massive subsidies for their operations, as they sell their produce in the entire european market, completely anhialating any other farmers without those massive government benefits.

EU does nothing to correct it, because the farmers lobby is too powerful. This continues in nearly every other industry as well with a sufficiently powerful lobby
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>>76307391
*scarecrow of "populism"*
Sorry, typo
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>>76307536
>Estonia bringing the truth
Yes.
You've almost made up for the fact that you didn't post any toothbrushing yet.
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