>>76245830
>cherry picked best case of what i like
>cherry picked worst case of what i hate
truly, incontrovertible
>>76245955
No situation where socialism leads to the top picture
>>76245830
>fair socialism
No that was socialism that got corrupted be evil and greedy people not "true" socialism
>>76246161
LOL, there is no TRUE socialism. When will that meme die? It won't work because it's not human nature
Thankfully North Korea has tons of food, so much of it even the Dear Leader is impressed
>>76246161
But from the fundamental the socialism leads to corruption and thats the inevitable faith
>inb4 those failed countries were not TRUE socialist
No they were. Maybe in books and narratives they have a different ending
To be fair, Venezuela was never socialist, its still run by a bunch of pro-western billionaire oligarchs. They took this opportunity to strangle the government so a western backed leader can be installed. Watch the food supplies magically get restored once Maduro is out.
>>76245830
>/pol/ hates socialism
>Loves hitler
If you don't see the irony, you're uneducated
>>76245830
Socialism would never work in modern times but in times where resources and soldiers were the only things that mattered, socialism would work.
Look at Caesar's Legion in FNV. They're economic system is basically socialism.
All resources are distributed by the state and put where its needed, in Caesar's Legion's case the majority of the resources were put towards the front lines.
It's worth noting however that almost everyone in Caesar's Legion were either soldiers or slaves. And all women or slaves.
But when looking at the effectiveness of a completely war oriented society, I believe socialism would work pretty well for it.
>>76246628
All women were slaves*
>>76245955
The balls in your court.
Prove that OP's pic is bullshit cherry picked.
Show us all the wonders that Socialism brings. Show us just how bad capitalism is. You have examples don't you? Maybe Venezuela? Haiti? India, right?
I mean shit India's got to be a good example. I'm like 99% sure once they opened up their markets that every went to shit and millions were brought down into poverty by the exploitation by the evil Capitalists.
>>76246008
Nordic countries
>>76246287
"human nature" is a meme
you're like one of those goons who says polyamory is human nature
human nature is what people do, and we can see that socialist extremism is a kneejerk reaction to despotic oppression historically so we can say that this is within human nature
>>76245955
... So you are saying that the top picture ISN'T completely average?
Cause that is what every supermarket in the US and Canada looks like that I have been to.
The only time I've EVER seen a supermarket empty is in Florida during the 04 hurricane season, when I lived in Martin County, where most of them made landfall.
>>76246881
not even in nordic countries. keep dreaming commie.
>>76247148
it will be if there's no market for the goods for sale, and there won't be if people make too little from labor to buy them, which is the ultimate goal of globalism and the future unless we expand government regulation and left trade policy
>>76246881
Those are social democracies...
>>76246881
Nope. They all adopted socialist shit after succeeding with a free market system, then shit went south and they went back to the capitalist policies of the previous generations. Bernie not only wants the welfare state of Denmark, but he wants major controls over corporations which the Danes don't do.
http://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist
>>76245955
Cunt, there are 7 grocery stores within 15 miles of me that all look like that picture up top
>>76247030
You honestly believe that human's evolved so fucking far away from their roots that they don't crave to be the best, or compete for mates, or compete for resources? You're delusional
And I believe humans are not polyamorous, they mate, stick around long enough for the children to be able to live safely on their own, and leave. That's human nature.
>>76248178
socialism people are standing in the roads only used for party officials
capitalism is rush hour traffic
>>76248178
>>76247806
Looks accurate bud
>>76245830
>tfw socialist grocery store has a freezer full of things called capitalist memes
>>76245955
>>cherry picked
I suggest you, to take a tour visiting Cuba, Venezuela, Best Korea, etc. Then tell us.
Socialism is a cancer, always was, always will be.
>>76248566
national SOCIALISM brought us the volkwagon and decent affordable cars
>>76248992
It also brought us Jews controlling even more of the world
>>76248566
Capitalism gives us supercars that 99% of people can't afford to buy? What a fantastic point. Hooray for capitalism.
>>76248992
LOL because people in the united states were ALL buying VW bugs? The US had affordable cars at the same time too.
>>76249237
>US had affordable cars
*shit quality
>>76249208
But the difference is that you CAN get those cars if you want to. The only reason you can't get one is because you failed to be able to do it
>>76246805
this
he literally has nothing to respond with
>>76249670
As if the VW was a reliable car.
Tell me about cars in the 1930s that were reliable. Please, enlighten me on your experiences from pre ww2
>>76249168
>Implying that wasn't the US
Hitler put jews in the oven and jews in thes soviet union were "UNIFIED" in a mass grave under stalin regime.
>>76249776
Oh right, it all comes down to personal choice.
Hey, why are the vast majority of wealthy people coming from already wealthy families? Do you know what social mobility is?
I hope you own a supercar, because if you don't your mind has been totally cucked by the ruling class.
>>76249978
If Hitler and Stalin hadn't killed so many of them then the Jews wouldn't have used the Holocaust as leverage to gain power
America actually is the most successful socialist state in the history of mankind. Just look at the medicare numbers, the number of people on foodstamps, etc.
Basically we are 'capitalist' just enough so that we can make money to spend it all on socialist policies.
Socialists end up like Venezula or greece. Capitalists with socialist policies stick around longer because they actually work.
Checkmate, socialists. The best way to implement your system is to concede to ours.
>>76250171
It didn't fucking happen goddammit
>>76249208
that car costs around $150k. thats not a lot.
>>76249971
the bug was so reliable america started using them
>>76246425
>honeymoon of socialism
>"LOL! Socialism works again! Why doesn't everyone do this already XDDD"
>abusive marriage of socialism
>"LOL!! T-They were never s-socialist in the first place! W-Why would anyone th-think they were??? XDDD ;~;"
>>76250930
lol whats the source for the original images?
stormfront?
you wont find the origionals, ive tried
>>76250161
Uh yeah, it does. Look at people like (not meming) kanye west, elon musk, Steve Jobs. You think they came from fucking royalty?
No, they got good at something, worked their fucking ass off, and made something great. No I don't drive a supercar, but I also know I haven't worked hard enough to buy one.
It is your personal choice. Why aren't you good at anything? Why haven't you created anything? Why are you blaming other people for your failures?
>>76245830
hes bald so we don't have to worry about finding out if he can get it right
>>76251007
Wow, that is super fucking reliable. Is that also the same reason why germany imports our cars? They're SOO reliable that germany started using them?? I'm not understanding your logic here
>>76251230
youre saying blacks werent kangz?
racist
>>76246320
>3 varieties of bread pudding
kek
Socialism doesn't work because humans need the incentive that their hard work is paying off and moving them towards a goal.
If I didn't earn big bucks, then all my try hard no friends in college work ethics and high morals standards would've made me into a bitter man, if I did all of that for nothing and earned the same amount as a mexican that recently snuck into the country.
I don't have to be rich, just better off than most to feel self assured that it was for something. Who the fuck wants to work hard and have their shit taken away to help lazy people?
>>76251316
Of course they weren't, but there are blacks that have made a lot out of themselves, further proof that anybody can do it
>>76245830
1. Venezuela is not socialist
2. The Shortage in Venezuela is because of sabotage. You know, by private rich owners, that want more free-market and power.
It's not a Socialist country.
>>76246881
I like how Bernie was praising the Danish "socialist" model to the point were our god damn prime minister had to come out and correct him.
http://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist
>>76251230
>(not meming)
>lists a south african private school educated son of a engineer and a rapper who begs for money on twitter
the only "self made man" in your list is Steve Jobs and he went to Reed College, which was paid for by his parents.
>>76251210
>>76248766
Capitalism is so wasteful though. You can't have never ending growth.
All those successful socialist Scandinavian countries seem to differ
Venezuela is a shitskin hellhole what do you expect
>>76252097
HAHAH WHAT??? Elon's dad was a electrical engineer. Since when is being an electrical engineer wealthy??
And Kanye begging for money makes him not self-made for what reason exactly??
>>76252324
It's a regular cycle of recessions and booms. Any history or economics textbook worth a damn can tell you that.
>>76251309
Germans imported American cars for the same reason that Japan has a KFC in Hiroshima and there are McDonald s in Iraq. Its the spoils of war dipshit
>>76252483
Canada is more of a shitskin than the places you listed.
>>76252483
Scandinavia doesn't prove that socialism works, it just proves that a successful capitalist economy can hold off socialist collapse longer than a 3rd world shithole can
>>76246628
>Look at Caesar's Legion in FNV. They're economic system is basically socialism.
Ncr is more socialist than them. As long as your not dealing drugs, Cesar lets merchants deal as they please. Ncr heavily taxes all business activity and their production industry is so shit they have trouble fighting near tribal people.
>>76249670
Those bugs couldn't even match the model Ts.
>>76251725
Somw were. But they just amounted to being king of mud huts and other dominating even more ogga bogga black
>>76245955
fpbp, nuance is apparently non existent and all forms of socialism literally equal Venezuela and North Korea
>>76252593
that doesn't mean shit when its still built on infinite growth thats its most basic tenent
The only shit I want is national healthcare. We have the absolute worst system based on greed leading to death and becoming poor.
>>76255813
Insurance is a bitch because regulations give companies monopolies in certain states. Deregulate it to compete nationwide and insurance costs will go down much like car insurance.
>>76245830
If capitalism was really "fair" and "better" it would donate all those surplus goods to the poor socialists.
>>76256235
>Having a surplus of goods is a bad thing
Having a surplus drives down prices making the goods more affordable for the poor socialists.
>>76256235
We regularly send foreign aid to third world shitholes. Problem is, when it's not depressing their local economy (who wants to grow food or make clothes when shit literally falls from the sky), it's getting captured by warlord or gypsies selling to back to the people for free profit.
>>76245830
if you are poor you cannot afford most of this shit so both are comparable
so..., if you are poor get a job!
so $300 a month after tax - anyone?
>>76255653
>infinite growth thats its most basic tenent
Bullshit. Capitalism is free market enterprise where the means of production are privately owned. Where does the "endless growth"
meme come from?
>>76246161
>not "true" socialism
Seriously what IS "true" socialism? Isn't this a No True Scotsman?
U.S.S.R.?
>not "true" socialism
China?
>not "true" socialism
Cambodia?
>not "true" socialism
Vietnam?
>not "true" socialism
Cuba?
>not "true" socialism
Venezuela?
>not "true" socialism
Bernie Sanders?
>not "true" socialism
All according to r/socialism. Where are all the "true" socialist countries? Or is it simply that socialism fails every time it's tried, because it assumes too much good faith from humanity as a whole?
>>76248766
I went to Cuba and it was pretty shit. I went into the city with some other people from Canada and we were swarmed for money. We weren't attacked but the people were just dirt poor. A lady wanted to trade my T-shirt (brand name) for a box of cigars.
I do not wish to go back there.
>>76252324
>You can't have never ending growth.
That's why you have private enterprise, where some businesses have to go bankrupt, instead of state enterprises that leech until the whole economy goes belly up.
>>76245830
>chemicals
>embargoes
>>76245830
Well, yes. The only fairness is death, so everyone must die to have a truly fair world.
Why do you have a problem with this? Do you think fairness is worth dying for? Because I don't.
I always love these threads on /pol/, mention gommunism or socialism and watch the commies come out
>>76245830
Why can't we have best of both worlds? Capitalism does wonders, but in the US it is corrupted by greed and dirty politicians. Tom Cruiz can get a $5000 message, but your local Joe can't afford insurance. This is one of many reasons why capitalism can do harm.
>>76257790
Anon, you have discovered the Marxist's deepest desire. Death.
>>76258226
The "socialist paradises" that Bernie and his followers constantly praise are actually mixed economies: some private things, some government things.
>>76248567
Underrated.
>>76246161
>"true" socialism
get a load of this fucking idiot and his stupid little meme lmao.
>>76247148
During the Great Depression there was loads of the bottom case in free market countries.
>>76245830
>capitalist memes in the socialist store
What
>>76258742
that's because bernie is actually a keynesian.
the "socialist" label is mostly just to troll the tea party.
>>76247030
> human nature is a meme
But the idea that everyone will be happy with equality isn't? Fuck on off.
>>76259049
> the Great Depression
> a time of free market economics
Pick one.
>>76246320
Too bad that's all only for Kim, and he doesn't share.
>>76252258
Yeah okay.
So what, they sent off all the jews to a fuckin' resort?
I don't think so.
>>76246671
No, everyone except Caesar is a slave in some fashion. It's all slaves commanding slaves with a man at the top.
BREAD LINES ARE A GOOD THINGS YOU CAPITALIST PIG DOGS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc
>>76252258
>no sources
nah, nice propaganda piece you have there
>>76252324
It will regulate itself as long as people arent fucking retarded.
I agree we have to push back against it sometimes but never go full retard like the berniggers do.
>>76246881
Not a single European country is currently socialist, dumbass.
>>76260746
however cultural marxism unfortunatley is widespread among western europe
Sure must be nice.
Just grow your own food and be indipendet
>>76263048
until you overfarm you small splinter of land and can't make produce anymore
Because consuming is the end goal of any human, right?
>>76245955
>cherry picked the worst of what I like
>cherry picked the best case of what I hate
>>76245830
>>76263624
"so you're telling me I can buy as much vodka as I want?"
>>76247806
More like
>white country
>darkietown
>>76246008
North Korea has it. Granted, it's in Pyongyang and mostly for show, but it's still there. Plus, you can't discount the possibility of a capitalist system doing the same thing.
>>76246881
Which one?
>>76245830
Implying that there is any real food in either one of those pictures.
>>76264688
oh wait there are actually some vegatbles to the right in the socialist pic.
Socialism objectively win according to that pic. Have fun eating your processed HFCS shit food burgers.
>>76246628
>/v/ and /pol/ crossposters
I want to deliver snark, but alas, I am the cancer. F:NV is the greatest vidjer of all time, ALL TIME!
>>76245955
>100 million people starved or killed in camps
>cherry picked
>>76265169
But that pic shows a negative correlation between HFCS availability and obesity
>>76246881
>nordic countries are socialist
when will this meme die?
Can someone explain the socialism meme to me
is it just under aged lazy NEETS and selfish people who want it?
>>76265386
>he still believes that CIA bullshit
>>76263676
>just copper
I mean you're right in saying that chile is far better run, but it also has MOST, not some, MOST of the worlds copper.
>venezuela starves
>/pol/: SOCIALISM IS EVIL
>it's actually not socialism
>nazism
>/pol/: NOT SOCIALISM BECAUSE I LIKE THE RHETORIC
>literally national socialism
>>76265477
>when will this meme die?
Probably when the Swedish welfare state is completely crushed on the weight of multiculturalism + socialism and our Scandinavian brothers decide to drop it completely.
>>76251996
Top kek, that must've been embarrassing
>>76246881
not socialist
small population
generally unaffected by major wars
try again
Capitalism nor socialism work because the inherent system in place is flawed.
We are currently delaying the inevitable by supporting the banks that are just too big to fail. There was a Banking structural reform bill going on in the EU but German, French and British banks just watered it down because they're cucked by Banks and their lobbyist. All Capitalist countries with mixed economies just like the United states.
Greek Debt crisis is fucking ridiculous as European nations keep shoveling debt to the country and hoping it would do the impossible and actually pay back, IMF is asking debt reliefs from Greece but probably not willing to take parts in such reliefs themselves.
>>76265386
No it was 500 trillion ukrainians gassed in the gulag.
>>76263210
> until you overfarm you small splinter of land and can't make produce anymore
if you use shitty farming practices
>>76245830
Do we really need more Bernie threads? It over. It has been over for a while
>>76263676
Bolivarianism is NatSoc.
>>76266977
Yeah we need to focus on gay rights and feminism more. Its ruining society.
>>76266878
I think you mean "normal" farming practices.
The world is losing topsoil at a rate that will make crop productivity increases impossible in a few decades, unless we either start soil remediation on a global scale or switch to some soil-less farming technology.
>>76245830
Socialism depends on the will of the people.
Capitalism depends on the will of the individual.
Both systems are prone to failure:
Soc.: The will of the people are collectively a failure, therefore the implementation of Socialism will also be a failure. The burden is on the collective.
Cap.: The will of the individual is a failure, therefore Capitalism will also be a failure. The burden is on the individual.
This is why Hitler's flavor of "National" Socialism worked well. The will of the German people was strong, coordinated, grounded in tradition and had a collectively healthy view of life.
However, as I stated before, if America for example were to instigate Socialism, society would fall so hard on its ass it would only lead to despotism.
So Capitalism is the defacto method since, *spoiler alert*, there is no such thing in reality as American society. America is too broken up to hold a cohesive healthy world view at this point in time. Maybe in the past, but no, not now.
>>76246008
You know nothing, m8.
