Redpill me on why Europe was sailing the seven seas and conquering the world with guns while Africans were still running around in loincloths and hunting with spears?
I've asked my leftist friends about this, and their reply is always some incoherent crap about differing cultural values.
Which is it?
We allowed them too.
Yeah sure cultural values. Europeans valued logic and Africans were valuing slave trade.
niggers are stupid
>>76180283
There is no evidence that Africans used the wheel before contact with outside peoples. This explains so much about black people imho
>>76180283
There's a ton of different answers, largely related to cultural effects of environment and economics.
the best response i've found is that men had to hunt all day to find food.
this was due to lack of tamed animals and poor agricultural conditions or some shit.
>>76180283
We were molded by the cold, forced to create better tools and structures.
And aliens.
>>76180514
Africans did invent the first wheels though, they just used them as lip discs instead
>>76180283
Evolution and natural selection
>>76180283
WE KANGS GOT NO NED FO WHITEYS BULLSHIT "EXPLORATION"!
https://youtu.be/vLXOkZtAkPw
>>76180283
Minimal environmental pressure.
We toppled the black civilization while they were kangs and stole all their shit and we-wrote the entirety of history to make it white
>>76180606
Nice meme.
>>76180573
Africa has more resources than a white man could ever dream of, don't buy that lie.
There are dozens of african species that could have been tamed, thousands of plants to farm, huge forests, water etc...
They just didn't (and still don't) have the IQ to really do anything with it all.
>>76180573
Yes, because the cold north allows you much better opportunities.
>>76180283
They had no need to become smart and adaptive. Think about it. They never needed the planning skills to prepare for season change. Never needed to stock up on food. Never needed no prepare for anything. It made white people advance at a much faster rate to adapt to our surroundings. It made europeans MUCH smarter than your average dindu.
Cause da man was keeping them down
>>76180283
Europeans had to develop ingenuity. In the Northern lands, if you don't develop a way to stay warm and gather food efficiently, you risk dying.
Africans don't have to develop anything. Warmth is not an issue, and their lands are extremely abundant. They never had to start creating new and better ways to survive because there was no threat of death.
I really think that Europeans are just more intelligent. But that isn't PC enough for normies
>>76180751
Horses and cows are easy to domesticate. Zebras and elephants are not. You gotta run around and hunt those fuckers.
>>76180573
Go shill your book somewhere else Jared Diamond.
>>76180751
> dozens of african species that could have been tamed
name one
World would have probably been better off if we got rid of them there and then.
>>76180283
Africans didn't have the same threat of getting genocided by their neighbors that Europeans had.
So they didn't need guns and the ability to sail the seven seas quite yet.
Europe had a long history of raiding culture and symbolic combat too, it's just that religion and certain warlike groups made the people more eager to kill their neighbors, whereas in Africa for the most part, until JUST PRIOR to the European rush into the continent, nobody had really broken the sort of gentleman's agreement on massacre between rival groups just yet.
Note how the north and east were more technologically advanced than the west and center for that very reason. You see actual technologically productive empires there due to the regions bordering people who were VERY MUCH willing to ice a motherfucker in war.
>>76180606
haha more like golf discs
>>76180936
The Nigger
Africans are still running around in loincloths and hunting with spears.
>>76180917
>>76180998
le racism meme
>>76180811
It makes you more intelligent as survival in the north is more complex than survival in the africa.
>>76180998
Savage, but totally logical
>>76180933
Jared diamond is classic Jewish intellectual. Absolutely subversive. Fuck him for belittling European achievement. He's dedicated his whole career to it
>>76180974
Africans have genocided and enslaved each other since the beginning of time and continue to do so today.
It's like Red Alert, a slower player will never be able to catch up to a better one.
>>76180974
>Africans didn't have the same threat of getting genocided by their neighbors
Africans did that on a daily basis, and diseases killed them by the millions.
The never progressed shit on either front
>>76180917
>Horses and cows are easy to domesticate. Zebras and elephants are not. You gotta run around and hunt those fuckers.
Yeah, maybe because they are already domesticated?
They were too busy being kings
>>76181028
They're pretty ornery, actually.
Texans imported some of those cattle because they were the only animals who could tolerate the heat, but they were just too wild and produced low-quality meat.
So we bred them with smaller, docile cattle from India, and got the Texas Longhorn.
>>76180936
So I guess that you also believe that niggers cannot learn because they don't learn. The fact that niggers never domesticated any animals does not mean that it was impossible to domesticate them. It was impossible for the niggers to domesticate ANY animals. They themselves have not been domesticated.
Environmental conditions. African climate is too harsh for any type of sofisticated culture to develop, they're too busy trying to survive.
>>76180283
culture does play an important part, as does geography, luck ect..
Read Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel", ignore the retarded clap above me
>>76181028
Looks like a non-shaggy Aurochs
>>76181028
I dunno bout you but i don't go anywhere close to anything with horns longer than a penis
>>76181205
do you actually believe this or am i being rused
>>76181207
Yup, the smart ones migrated out thousands of generations ago, leaving behind the lazy and stupid ones. The smart ones knew Africa sucked, so they left.
>>76180283
The only argument really is one of trade. Trade and exploration provide more that tangible things, they can inspire new technologies and recreate technologies at home.
The countries of the Mediterranean used to be extremely powerful due to these trade routes between them. South Africa was never really a part of this cultural and scientific development. They never saw things out side of their sphere of influence, so continued in the ways they always had.
It's a discussion point, not certain if it's true or not. History isn't my strongest subject so I cant exactly bring in a lot of knowledge. But that's the reason that was explained to me.
The most sensical explanation is that culture thrives on communication, not even trying to meme multi-culti propaganda, but stepping into contact with other cultures is most essential for cultural growth.
Eurasia is the center of all development for a reason, it's one thick mainland where travel and interaction was relatively easy, as compared to the American Islands, New Zealand, Sub-Saharan Africa.
For example Japan was also populated by a primitive people before they stepped into contact with their neighbours across the ocean.
Basically isolation kept them limited, until they were discovered by more advanced civilizations.
>>76180283
>be african
>live in the most fertile and resource rich continent in the world
>food everywhere, go into the jungle, shoot an arrow, hit an animal
>no seasons, it rains everyday, sunny for the rest of the time, no cold
>only build mud huts, who needs stone anyway when it's always hot?
>have everything you need to survive, no need to evolve
be european
>live in a rough climate
>have to learn how to survive, especially in winter
>invent shit to use and make surviving easier
>apply knowledge to other situations
>become great and build empires
>enslave the lazy filthy bushpeople
>>76180917
That's how domestication works dumbass. You take a wild species and over the course of generations, you tame it. You think the first dogs were anything more than barely trained wolves?
>>76180917
>Domesticating the uro
>easy
Sure thing taming an 8 meter bull must be easiear than a stripped horse
>>76181342
It's not just trade.
Europeans had to work for their resources; they had to adapt to differing, temperamental climates. Africa had fucking everything right there basically on the ground. They had no need to change or innovate or even think or plan. They had no need to come up with a rotational crop system to last through both the summer and winter.
>>76180283
Sub Saharan Africa has an average IQ of under 75. This is considered retarded. If your entire population is retarded, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the civilization does not advance.
>>76181113
Slavery is not genocide.
Plenty of early pagan europeans -also- enslaved each other.
The Bantu occupied more than half of Africa, in its most fertile areas.
Bantu did not engage in very intensive warfare, usually doing like prescripted rumbles in which nobody would get hurt seriously, and ransoms would be exchanged at the end of the battle with a little bit of shit-talking, and then everyone would get home.
Had the Zulu come 50 or 100 years earlier, Africa would have been a much different place.
>>76180606
im dying laughing
>>76180936
>>76180916
This.
But make no mistakes, the average normie is a specialist in doublethink and cognitive dissonance. No matter what you tell him, and no matter how many proofs you put under his nose, he won't budge.
I have explained multiple times to my normie friends, with abundance of proofs and logical arguments that democracies are no better than dicatorships, that we are not all equals, that the judeo christian God is an imaginary construct and that voting left will fuck their future.
It is entirely possible to convince the normies of these basic facts. You will notice from the horror and despair into their eyes once they realize the kinds of lies they have been fed. But the sorrow and the anger disappear fast to leave room for denial and grasping at whatever it is that allows them to forget or even better what you just said.
Reason why, the wise man keeps his mouth tightly shut and figures out the best way to profit from such a dark and deep pool of stupidity.
I now realize the morality behind despicable actions committed on a mass scale to fool the masses and profit for their stupidity
>>76180917
>Horses and cows are easy to domesticate
>a domesticated species is easy to domesticate
>a dog is easy to domesticate
You're a special kind of stupid.
>>76181530
>striped horses meme
zebras and horses look similar on the outside, but look it up. Their brains are super different. Especially with regards to herd mentality. You capture the lead horse and the rest follow you usually. But zebras aren't smart enough to care.
So you see, the problem of African stupidity is also about the stupidity of the animals :^)
>>76181452
>>76181558
This is really wrong and stupid. life was never easy in Africa.
They experienced near species death several times in history, Africa has an incredibly hostile environment, Europeans never had to deal with the kind of dangerous wildlife and fucking DISEASES Africans had to deal with.
Stop spreading this shit, it's just wrong.
>>76181296
Have you ever heard of a tautology? Morons like Jared Diamond will claim that the fact that niggers domesticated no animals meant that Africa had no animals which could be domesticated. Juvenile stupidity. Were all of Africa's birds also impossible to tame? The fact that niggers could not domesticate anything, including themselves, means that NIGGERS cannot domesticate animals. You use the example of elephants not being able to be tamed - although they were. Poo in loo do it all the time.
>>76181583
damn, that's stylish. id trade in my truck any day if i could take a zebra to wrok
The more intelligent [common ancestors] are the ones that left Africa and spread across the globe? I mean isnt that sort of split the same reason other primates are stupid? No sources here just guessing.
>>76181653
If people(not africans) could domesticate zebras by now, they would have because they're cool lookin
>>76181757
That's what I think too
>>76181558
Germanics always make stupid question and respond with stupid shit that doesnt make sense at all
Im amazed
>>76181571
I didn't say it was you dumb shit. And even if your single Bantu example was true it doesn't refute what i said.
>>76181678
butthurt sjw-genderstudies-graduate detected
truth hurts does it not?
>>76181712
>You use the example of elephants not being able to be tamed - although they were
That they were.
Remember Hannibal in the Alps
>>76181855
>largest ethnic group in Africa
>doesn't matter
k.
>>76181238
Do you really think that this book was some sort of definitive source? It was probably one of the dumbest things ever published. That retard claims that headhunters in Papua New Guinea are smarter than us because they can follow trails in the woods. He also throws out such silliness that intellectual development in certain countries was stifled, because their coastlines weren't craggy enough to provide hiding spaces for dissident intellectuals. I read the book, it was good for some laughs, and insight into the delusional and irrational workings of the liberal mind.
>>76181452
>Africa
>More fertile than Europe
What do you base this on?
Also by your logic Rome, Egypt and Greece would be bunch of bushmen too.
>>76181755
African colonial Europeans seems like the heyday of Western Civilization to me. Just the contrast in what white people and black people accomplished, that comparison side by side, is so beautiful.
>>76181869
Are you stupid? Kill yourself please.
You're saying Africans never developed because they had it easy, I basically told you you're wrong (which you are), dismantling a non-racist argument for the lack of African civilization meaning I'm paving the way for racist explanations.
Stop browsing 4chan it's frying your brain.
>>76181653
Also you're Portuguese
>>76181886
And poo in loo. I think that they don't use them for food because they are too valuable as working animals.
whoa.....
goosebumps....
>>76181558
The rotational crop system allows sustainability of a larger population, it wasn't a necessity until the population grew to that requirement.
Arguably, Africans would have discovered this too if they had contact with Europe much earlier.
>>76180283
This was how the native Australians were living around 1910.
They aren't us.
>>76180283
Africans co-evolved with everything else in Africa. The problem is that all of the diseases and animals knew exactly how to fuck the humans. If the tribe got too large, then a virus was likely to infect their village. If Jamal planted a garden, the an elephant would eat it and then destroy his hut because elephants are dicks.
Humans who left Africa were an invasive species and were able to conquer an unsuspecting world.
Figuring out why Europeans were conquering and exploring instead of the Chinese or the Indians probably does have something to do with culture and geography. Christianity, for example, has some beliefs that encourage people to explore, subjugate, and learn. Also, Europe has a ridiculous amount of coastlines that encouraged ship building and sea travel.
>>76181769
Zulus' riding in on Zebras..
>>76181961
>not true
>millions of other Africans killing and enslaving each other in the past and today
>>76182016
Rome and Greece are Europeans... So no...
Egyptians are not Africans. Yes i know the country is in Africa but we're talking about subsaharan africa
>>76181678
>Europeans never had to deal with the kind of dangerous wildlife and fucking DISEASES Africans had to deal with.
Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>76182158
They didn't do that
>>76180283
>>76182263
He is just being German.
>>76182263
European diseases were of a substantially different nature, honestly.
There's a reason why Europeans have immunity genes based on viruses, which mostly have a human-human vector, whereas Africans have genes that grant immunity to a number of intracellular parasites.
One of the biggest differences between Europea and Africa is the amount of and type of insect life they support.
As a Texan who lives in a very tropical climate, I can tell you right now that mosquitos and biting flies are a scourge and bring fucking FILTH into an environment.
>>76180283
>>76182075
The word knight is from ancient German. It meant servant, it became known as in the highest servant of the king.
>>76181678
That helps my theory that the smart ones just Slowly migrated away
>>76182277
Is that a fact?
>>76182075
Why is Geralt a nigger?
>>76182075
>dat saddle
Can you imagine the nigger riding it?
>>76182217
But these three ancient realms were quite fertile and safe enviorment, especially Egypt and Rome. Using your logic that comfort breeds dumb people, these people would be oogabooging with wooden javelins.
>>76181678
>Europeans never had to deal with the kind of dangerous wildlife
Is this a joke? Mammoths, cave bears, lions...we didn't have crocs or hippos, but it wasn't exactly an environment free of dangerous animals, man.
>>76180431
This, and the tsetse fly dominated a huge chunk of Africa, which compounded the stupidity problem a brazillion-fold.
>>76182075
DNA DIGIVOLVE
>>76182689
yes
>>76180936
The redneck burglar alarm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guineafowl
>>76180283
Read guns germs and steel
>>76180431
case closed
>>76180431
/thread
>>76180283
>Running around in loincloths
africa is hot as tits my man
>hunting with spears?
limited contact with china to buy gunpowder recipes
>>76182410
>As a Texan who lives in a very tropical climate, I can tell you right now that mosquitos and biting flies are a scourge and bring fucking FILTH into an environment.
>Arr so mosquitos are like most Texans.
>>76182702
Egypt is only fertile after the Nile has flooded the fields. Which only happens once a year.
Rome has a winter every year. You need a good harvest in autumn or you'll starve
In Africa with no seasons one failed harvest matters less because you can just continue farming.
also rome and greece are pretty small, so their excess population needed to emigrate which leads to the development of ships and weapons and shit
>>76181452
>>76181678
They're different type of hostile environment. Africa is more "low ceiling high floor" and Europe is "high ceiling low floor." It's easier to survive as a hunter-gatherer in Africa, but the animals and diseases make it hard to advance past that. In Europe, it was easier to starve to death, but the wildlife and diseases weren't as malicious.
>>76182908
>Redneck
Wait, do white people love guineafowl too?
I thought that was a Mexican thing.
I fucking LOVE those things.
>>76180283
photo reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ADI9p2wHY
>>76182896
Well isn't that interesting. You're very factual
>>76180283
>Africans were running around with spears in the 17th century
Oh Lord I thought Americans being stupid was a meme
>>76183243
yes, my aussie friend
>>76183169
Common in the rural southern US. Noisy bastards, true to their african roots.
>>76181589
Man, you said it
>>76183158
there used to be malaria in europe
oh..
and the plague...
yeah yersinia pestis is one nasty motherfucker... remember the 14th century
>>76183302
I know they're common down here.
I've just never seen white people raise 'em.
>>76180283
Well - there's the theory that whites + asians had to learn self-restraint + forethought to deal with harsh winters, but the cold prevented the mad bunch of diseases that Africa has. Whereas in Africa, the diseases were the primary enemy, leading them to breed fast cuz they'd die young. And, because the fauna evolved along with them, and they kept each other in check (like, literally, elephants and hippos destroy farm crops). So given their forced low population, food wasn't a problem, and they didn't have to evolve better brains, just disease resistance. And that's why we have blacks in America actually - the South had malaria way back when, and white indentured workers died from it, but black slaves didn't.
>>76183276
I bet the ladies love you my friend
>>76180431
This.
>>76183422
no, they say i'm too nice to "those asshole australians" :(
>>76183346
Yersinia p. was a problem specifically because it was a tropical Asian disease that had a common vector in Europe.
Most of the plagues that took Europe were only viable in cities.
Most of the disease epidemics in Africa had their own independent ecosystems, which meant that you would have to destroy multiple reservoirs of the disease, since it was only harmful to humans.
>>76180573
>this was due to lack of tamed animals
So why didn't they tame them?
For example, they had horses (with stripes). To this day they still aren't tamed.
>>76183397
Wasn't just Malaria in the US South.
Hookworms, man.
The reason lots of poor whites in the South were so dumb and fat wasn't inbreeding: It was hookworms they got because they didn't have shoes, that made them stupid and slow and lazy and stunted their development.
>>76183557
jesus fucking christ they look like horses with stripes but their brains are different. read my previous posts or just fucking google why don't we ride zebras you canadashit
>>76180283
Well, white Europeans have Neanderthal blood. Most folks throughout the world do, but at up to 5% of native European DNA being straight up Neanderthal we have a much larger share than native Africans, who only have 2% Neanderthal DNA at best.
Evidence of Neanderthal intelligence being quite significant by our standards is piling up. Recently a cave featuring a prehistoric construction intended to house a small fire was fully modeled and examined by archaeologists and they dated the construction to 150.000 years ago.
There were no Homo sapiens in Europe 150.000 years ago.
To achieve this, Neanderthals would have had to work together, someone needed to hold a torch (hurr durr caves are dark) while the rest was systematically piling rocks.
Meanwhile, traditional Africans today can barely manage straw huts and shoddy hunting equipment.
My theory is that neanderthal dna is responsible for the drastic difference between the drive of Europeans and Africans.
>>76180283
Diamond is an idiot, his paradigm does not account for values or culture. It's nonsense relativism
>>76181567
IQ tests were invented by white people, you fucking racist...that's why they favor white people. There's not just one type of intelligence.
/leftist satire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8azaZWfLSU
>>76182115
>Europe has a ridiculous amount of coastlines that encouraged ship building and sea travel.
And Africa doesn't?
Even liberals can't be this stupid.
>>76183659
>their brains are different
That's what taming animals is all about, you moron.
Over several generations of the animal you select those with the desirable traits (i.e. are they docile, etc.) and breed them, while disposing of the rest. It's called artificial select (as opposed to natural selection).
There are domesticated horses today, but there are still wild horses, too.
>>76181678
>>76182031
>black plague
>measles
>cholera
>smallpox
>leprosy
All from outside of sub-saharan Africa. Not to mention other diseases that were prevalent in Europe, described by the Greeks.
Europe also had malaria and whatnot. India must be the world capital of diseases and they were pretty evolved.
Egypt had diseases from everywhere and still managed to build pyramids.
On the animals, sure there is more madness in Africa, but camon, there are/were plenty of dangerous animals in Europe and Asia. Bears, tigers, wolfs, venemous snakes, spiders, mammoths, boars, etc.
>>76183918
>still not able to use google and instead just assuming assumptions
>>76183969
>do my research for me
>>76183551
well i give you that. africa has worse diseases than the rest of the world.
wjhich is also a reason why africa in its whole was colonized last. europeans just died off. until the brits arrived with their gin tonic which contains chinin, which helps against malaria.
but why do africans blame all their problems on us whites? shouldn't they blame moskitos and bacteria?
>Fucking vibrio cholerae. Keeping me and my poeple down. Forcing me to hunt and live in mud huts
>>76181678
Right. The evolutionary pressure was resistance to diseases, which is why early America took in black slaves - they didn't die in the South's then-malaria, like white workers did.
>>76184024
more like do your own research
>>76181678
I dunno man have you ever won a fight with a sheep?
>>76180283
Innovation in the past was always impeded by those it would threaten wealth. This was also impeded by those that would not invest in it.
For example move able type had been available long before gutenburg came along. The right factors allowed wide disemination of literature and literacy to explode in places it did not.
The unique circumstances in Europe was that Colombus was able to solicit many sovereigns that did not interfere with each other. He even got solicit their replacements.
The florishing of democracy and free trade has depended on a razor thin ratio of competitors being successful enough to not collude tightly nor one party utterly dominating the field.
If this sounds incoherent then I am sorry. The book "Why nations fail" by James A Robinson explains my understanding of it.
>>76183969
Did you even see
>>76181583
Niggers settle for shit. As long as they got their own ass covered they're good in their books. They don't want to do anything that would be hard to further the culture. They can't manage to get anything proper built because they don't have that teamwork spirit. If they worked together they would've been able to create a lot of helpful shit, better towns, better fields, all kinds of even really basic agricultural shit.
But no. Jamal is set when Jamal can find a fucking jungle squirrel to sustain him for the day. Fuck the other guy who didn't find a jungle squirrel.
Together Jamal and other guy could've built a jungle squirrel farm to sustain them and their families for a decade but Jamal is set. No need for that fancy shit.
-The stories of Jamal. The end.
>>76180431
/thread
>>76183121
>also rome and greece are pretty small, so their excess population needed to emigrate which leads to the development of ships and weapons and shit
So you be sayin, that the Mediterranean region was so fertile and comfy, it allowed civilizations to flourish?
Also the "Seasonal weather promotes forward thinking" sounds interesting, but not enough to be a major evolutionary drive. Altough I dont know if African weather is really seasonless.
>>76184050
The Africans who are actually kept down by horrible diseases are way too busy dying to redpill their disease-free relatives.
>>76184097
>the richest man on earth managed to strap one zebra to a cart one time using his vast resources.
bet you anything it didn't take orders on stopping and going like a fucking based horse does
>>76183955
it's because the people objecting to our arguments have no idea how europe used to be.
nowadays it's really harmless with no wolves or bears in significant numbers, no more malaria. and a functioning sewer system.
back in the days it was pretty rough and then you had winter too...
>>76180283
I'd imagine it has to do with the 70IQ
>>76183537
Ah you'll be right mate.
>>76180283
>Be European
>live in freezing fucking cold
>hunt and forage all day, cut wood for fires
>hey, plants n shit grow where a throw the seeds, maybe I can do this instead
>farming, lots of food and big population growth because of food security
>can specialise in crops with good yields and many uses like wheat and barley
>structures built to keep out the cold and store food
>tools like wheels made to maximize farming efficiency
>suddenly there's a lot of time on people's hands for more quality of life issues rather than sheer survival
>be African
>live in grasslands leading to desert
>fires mostly unnecessary, place is fucking hot enough already, and happen often naturally
>nothing but bush grows in the bush
>plenty of game though, but little drinkable water
>buildings mainly for keeping in the shade and sleeping
>rearing animals is difficult because bush
>not much has changed, except more desert
>Live in rainforest
>lots of game, lots of fruit
>soil is only good when the trees are there, making farming near impossible
>little room for development
>Live in desert
>entirely dependent on water sources for lofe
>severely limited in travel and scope
>>76184074
You haven't even made a point, I have no idea what to research. You literally just said "their brains are different" and that was it. So prove your claim.
I'm starting to think YOUR brain might be different.
>>76180283
Because Africa was fucking huge and resource rich so it made more sense to expend energy invading your neighbor than engaging in the opportunity cost of sailing the seas in search of unspecified riches.
Africa IS HUUUUUUUGEEEEEE there is more land to conquer there than America. Europe did not have leagues and leagues of poorly defended land to march across, they had 150 years of uninterrupted war and powerful states with standing armies.
Also blacks would probably be too indolent to try even if it was the only option they had anyway.
>>76181452
Explain Aztec, Maya and Inca.
>>76180283
That's a beautyful bow
>>76180917
India got elephants down
>>76184225
are you a nigger?
or just stupid?
Africans that wanted to explore and create did just that. They left Africa and over a very long period of time evolved to Europeans / Asians.
I don't know a lot about this stuff and I'm not going to pretend I do. I think it makes sense though that if the more intelligent Africans are the ones who left Africa, for whatever reason, their offspring would carry those same genes for intelligence/curiosity as well and that is why Europeans and Asians outperform Africans on IQ tests.
I also agree with the theory mentioned earlier about Africans living in a very bountiful place so they didn't really have a need to invent ways to do things more efficiently.
>>76184172
i once stumbled upon an anthropology paper where they tried to figure out why civilization first arose in mesopotamia when the rest of us was basically like africa is today.
they suggested that it had something to do with
a changing climate
the kind of animals roaming around
the terrain
i cant remeber all the conclusions but that's about it
I like it how it took 5-6 thousand years for them to realise Africa is a shithole and to start mass migrating by choice
ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT ZEBRAS ARE AS STUPID AS AFRICANS OK?
>>76182876
lost it
>>76180283
Europeans used dark magic to subdue the noble black kings of Africa and make them kill each other and live in constant poverty.
They must kill the whites in order to regain their rightful place as an interplanetary civilization.
>>76183346
There's a big difference in a plague that effects an extant civilization and diseases that prevent tribal villages from growing into towns and cities. Malaria also appears to have been a more intermittent problem in Europe as opposed to Africa where is was a constant problem.
>>76180917
Yeah, it's not like anyone has ever trained elephants to fight in wars.
Google: Riding on Zebra
>>76180283
low IQ + low impulse control = lack of long-term planning
the doom of negroid subspecies. the european explorers and missonaries who went to africa during the 19th century reported that most african "languages" (if you can call them that) did not even have words for things like specific times, dates or measurements. they didn't have words for precision, just vague words for "sometime in the future" or "long, but not too long"
baby-tier languages
Because Ghengis Khan didn't fuck with the nignogs in africa.
The Khan conquering, more in 25 years than the Romans did in 400, caused the greaest culture spread of ideas, arts, and technology, boosting civilizations north of africa, while leaving those darker folks in the dust.
BOOM ROASTED
>>76184225
>dude took a zebra to a cart and it listened
>if it didnt he wouldn't have used the zebra
You don't have to be a rich man to try this.
>>76181571
Good point. Tribal warfare or even warfare with primitive tools isn't particularly lethal- with minimal supply chains and weapons like bows and sharp clubs, it's relatively easy to say "fuck it, this isn't worth it" and come to a settlement before too much blood is spilt. Steel weapons and guns have a tendancy to kill outright, and therefore the law of exponential warfare causes a blood feud to come to a head rapidly.
>>76184302
What about the Africans in south West Africa, along the East African coast, and along the Southern coast, all in places where there is an abundance of arable land?
What about the Africans living in the North African coastal plains, that were once as fertile as Europe?
What about the Africans who settled Egypt and Babylon? Why didn't their civilization thrive after developing agriculture, technology, and civilization?
>>76181452
>live in the most fertile and resource rich continent in the world
Are you one of those guys who think farming land is easy in africa? Because it is not, there are fertile parts of land, but most of the rainforest is completely useless for farming because of extremely fast process of decay
>>76184661
the pest affected everyone even small villages
and yet europe recovered from all that shit and started developing cures that actually work. not your bushman mumbojumbo shaman healing dance
>>76181452
by that logic, middle easterners would be the smartest people. Oh wait they actually were before islam-endorsed inbreeding and the mongol conquests.
>>76180283
Africa is actually a pretty nice place to live. You don't develop new ideas if you aren't constantly challenged by your environment.
It's about survival and surviving out side of Africa was harder and required more brainpower.
Easy, blacks aren't human, they're animals, they have less ability to use their brains. The same is true for all non white races, like Italians. and filthy Native Americans. Turd skins.
>>76184911
>What about the Africans in south West Africa, along the East African coast, and along the Southern coast, all in places where there is an abundance of arable land?
but east african coast and southern coast had higher culture that farmed and built of stone. Check it out
>What about the Africans living in the North African coastal plains, that were once as fertile as Europe?
well, they had their time of prosper. Numidians for example
>What about the Africans who settled Egypt and Babylon? Why didn't their civilization thrive after developing agriculture, technology, and civilization?
they had their time
>>76184950
hell no, farming is not easy at all. but it doesnt take much to burn down a piece of rainforest, grow crops and move on. africans actually learned this. then they had enough food not to starve and wenrt back to lying in the sun and not doing anything, like building empires n shiiiiiiieeeeet
>>76185140
yep. that's about it...
>>76180431
that's racist
>>76184997
>and yet europe recovered from all that shit and started developing cures that actually work
not in the old times, no.. Cure for plague was kinda accidental when they didn't know what was the cause for symptoms, people just barricaded infected houses in fear of bad smells but it was actually useful as quarantine method
>>76181851
>t. Mulatto
>>76181452
The Danube River valley is a paradise, don't shortchange the bounty of Europa.
Please consider the natural pestilence of the African climate to be a contributing factor to their unlearned societies.
The quantity of land in Africa (also the Western Hemisphere) made it easier to flee opponents who would genocide or enslave ethnic groups than in Europe where military prowess was neccesary for all independent nation-states to survive.
NOTE: The Highlands of Africa are majestic, there is not as much arable land as many would surmise absent proper irrigation implementation.
Source: Lived in East Africa for 3 months
T. Nehiyaw patriot
The only thing a Nigger ever could figure out, is how to make peanut butter. They can't do shit but act like scumfucks and make shit from peanuts. They have done nothing for mankind, same with dirty ittalians.
>>76184679
> niggers have low iq
Instead of gushing the obvious, try to actually tackle op's question (ie: why do niggers have lower iq)
>>76185295
So Africans did face hardship and had to develop civilization in response. Therefore the "Africa is the Garden of Eden where everything is abundant and everyone stays ignorant" hypothesis doesn't work.
Now why didn't African civilizations progress past these primitive empires, developed thousands of years before European civilization?
Why did other groups, such as the Greeks, Chinese, and even the Aztecs make so much more progress in much less time?
>>76182031
Shut you fucking kraut, you are the inbreed result of mass rapes of the dregs of the greater german reich.
You are weak, effeminate, a cuck, unwilling and unable to defend your own women, you don't deserve to breathe the same air as the krauts of old.
Now, I know you like your double think, but this isn't a place where it will work, go jack off to some cuck porn and keep telling you that being tolerant, weak and effeminate is the way, that it is 2016 and whatnot
>>76183055
So is the middle east though the middle east and Egypt invented air conditioning thousands of years ago. Keeps your water ice cold too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat
>>76184911
>places where there is an abundance of arable land
Few and far between, and to grow what? There just weren't that many crops before Europeans and Indians and whoever came and started trading. You could get things like fruits, maybe. They did grow things like dates, sultanas and the like. Farming takes a lot of water to do too, a rare commodity through most of Africa. Also, some of those are hurricane zones (or monsoons if that's what you guys call them) , so that could also have affected the crop gains as well. Most importantly, what were they going to develop? They had no metal. I can't think of an animal that would pull a cart, besides for camels which they did domesticate. The wood in Africa isn't particularly good, since it was made to store water. Despite all that, they actually did though. Those areas did have better cultures and more advanced tools at the time. Everyone else didn't have the time or resources to, so they just remained isolated pockets until they disappeared as all cultures do.
>>76180917
The street shitters figured it out. They bred them to be smaller and more docile, which lead to domestication.
>>76184369
They were descendants of Asians
>>76184172
no czechbro, mediterranean fluorish because they have fresh water - one of most important thing in classic age. also slave trade, big empires, HORSES etc
also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
this one who better spend energy and time can make more things, simple.
>>76181589
Damn this post is fedora as fuck
>>76180811
If it doesn't, and Africa does, that doesn't make the KANGZ argument better. It makes it worse. It means we were able to do several times more with several times less, and enslave them in the process.
Then again, you're Swedish, so I would expect this faulty line of reasoning from an extinct species. It's simple Darwinism.
>>76183072
> australia
> the texas of the british empire
>>76185734
>Farming takes a lot of water to do too, a rare commodity through most of Africa.
it rains every fucking day around the equator. every fucking day in the afternoon it pours down from the heaven just like as if the angels had a scat orgy up there
>>76185648
>Now why didn't African civilizations progress past these primitive empires, developed thousands of years before European civilization?
>Why did other groups, such as the Greeks, Chinese, and even the Aztecs make so much more progress in much less time?
probably because more south you go, more primitive you are. Northern europeans were nothing compared to carthagians or ethiopians when they were on their prime time to prosper. But now its our turn, and maybe in future it will be chinese turn.
>>76180283
After asking around, and doing my own research, the only logical answer I could come up with, is that the environment made them "lazy", so to speak. They had everything they wanted/needed around them. The ones that lived it the coastal areas used to fish. The ones that were land locked had fertile lands that gave them plenty of food. The opposite drove the white man to do what is necessary for his survival.
>>76180283
I once heard of something called "White Sight" which, if I am remembering this correctly, is the innate desire of white peoples to see what is over the horizon. Like, you got an ocean? We'll go over there. You got a mountain? We'll go check out the top. And, again, if I am remembering this correctly, this inbuilt natural desire was a driving force that made white people go everywhere. And because no other race had this personality trait, when white people got there, it was mud-hut savages. So they took everything as they wanted it. The drive to go over the hill also spurred the economics of everything.
We fittin-ah go to space and shiiiiet.
>>76184074
>educate yourself shitlord
>>76184828
Did Khan actually go to Africa?
>>76182410
This.
Generally southern you go, shittier the enviroment and wildlife you have,
I guess it's not a surprice that people living in the nest of everything filthy and dangerous didn't had a space program.
>>76184074
"educate yourself"
>>76181452
>>76181589
>>76180974
>>76180916
This. You can really put it into perspective once you introduce r\K selection theory to any conclusions you draw. You can actually gain conservative black friends would wete previously either apolitical or lightly liberal by showing them r/K first then the worse stuff second, democrats didn't actually switch sides, voter plantation ect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRXJcE7dcw
It even works on ghetto nigs
>Heyo man, check this shit. It talks about how an why drug lord gangsta be entrepreneurs an sheit and why it works all scientific like. How bitch ass -x- are like rabbits and shit.
>>76184545
>nobody cared who I am until I put on the mask
honestly it's gotta be satire I refuse to believe some niggers are this stupid
>>76184627
True story.
>>76186243
Yep, just look at all that africa he conquered.
>>76185954
>it rains every fucking day around the equator
Do you know where Trinidad is? No iro doesn't. There's a dry and rainy season, and think about where you heard the last few droughts were. The dry season was longer than it is now in the past,and you could go literal months without rain. But when it rains, holy fuck does it rain.
>>76186134
Every read up on rK selection friend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRXJcE7dcw
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/
>>76180283
this argument is literally the same as "it's the CURRENT YEAR"
>>76183918
Zebras can't be tamed
They lack the social structure that horses have, there is no alpha zebra, they don't follow orders from anyone else.
And as for America, the only domesticated animals they had were llamas which are really weak.
>>76184074
>Makes claim
>How?
>It's not my job to educate you shitlord!
>>76186851
yes i know where your fucked up country is. i paid attention in geography thus i know all this shit
>>76184545
>>76182075
The fuck is a solider?
>>76187221
Actual serous one here.
>>76187109
If you do, you would know that we're 11° off the equator, and we had a 5 month drought period this year.
>>76180431
not an argument
>>76187369
yeah just that we're talking about the past here, dumb carribean mongo
but sure compare this to our time where we released a shitload of that evil gas that fucks with climate n shiiiet
>>76180283
>Redpill me on why Europe was sailing the seven seas and conquering the world with guns while Africans were still running around in loincloths and hunting with spears?
Because we have different seasons here and during the winter you would literally starve and/or freeze to death if you didn't collect enough firewood and food during the summer. This weeded out the dumb people and forced the rest to think ahead or die. And because they worked hard during the summer they could sit inside during the winter months and think about taming animals, building better plows, ships, sails, net, windmills etc and contemplate what was beyond the horizon.
In warmer climates that never happened so they just ate what they could collect during that season and when they where full they fucked a bit and took a rest.
>>76180573
>the best response i've found is that men had to hunt all day to find food.
>this was due to lack of tamed animals and poor agricultural conditions or some shit.
This is a fucking retarded PC bullshit explanation. A better explanation would be the fact that they COULD hunt and gather all day and therefor there was no reason to do anything else. Africa got tons of easily available resources and that is the ''problem''
I mean is our lifestyle really that awesome today? I wouldn't mind living at a tropical island where you could spend a few hours every day just collecting clams, doing a bit of fishing and then chilling under a tree while you think about the volcano god.
TL;DR
Necessity is the mother of invention
>>76182482
a joke dumbass cracker
>>76180283
Apparently literally no one in Africa figured out they could catch wind by stringing together some cloth
Also people and therefor information travels much easier from east to west/ west to east due to more gradual changes in climate.
>>76182075
>saddle on a big cat
>implying cats are load baring animals
It would literally break its spine.
>>76182075
Looks like the artist ran out of creativity with the boots and just went full jrpg
>>76188402
Not unless you're a Pygmy.
>>76185526
>BOY YOU GOD
every time
>>76180283
Milk and cheese.
It does stuff to the genes and brain.
>>76184545
Learn something new everyday, thanks anon
>>76180431
quite surprised this wasn't the first post
>>76187560
This.
>>76180283
According to my anthropology teacher Africa didn't advance because they had a lack of tameable beasts of burden. Europe had horses to speed up farming, allowing them to have a food surplus and individuals could focus on specific professions, which allowed technology to progress at such a fast rate.
Basically if you don't have a food surplus all your time is devoted to getting food and a society doesn't really move forward.
>>76182451
where the fuck is this shitty image from? the national average IQ is always, by definition, 100. that's how the IQ distribution is defined.
>>76183263
They still are u dip
this
>>76187560
>>76180703
See curse of hamm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
>>76189234
>horses to speed up farming
>not oxen
get on my level, agricultural pleb
>>76180431
this
>>76180283
Aspiration for higher things i.e. People dreamt to fly like the birds for thousands of years and tried to imitate birds.
That lead to aircraft in the end and even spaceflight.
We also wondered WHY certain things are the way they are.
And we have more of a pack mentaility were we work together for the benefit of all.
The tribal races dont have these things.
They live like they live and dont aim any higher, they mostly dont even try.
They also lack any curiosity about how the world around them works and have more like a herd mentality were in the end everyone is on his own if something happens.
>>76187560
Greece and Rome had fairly warm weather year round, and developed highly advanced civilizations. Christ, even the natives in South America developed civilizations that were lightyears ahead of anything in Africa, and the two continents are practially mirror images in terms of resources and weather.
>>76189769
In essence we were ironpilled in the past.
Nowadays these things rot away ever faster.
People have no curiosity anymore, YOLO, everyman for himself etc.etc.
>>76184302
>hey, plants n shit grow where a throw the seeds, maybe I can do this instead
>what is the fertile crescent
neck yourself, housenigger
>>76187560
This.
>>76189817
Greece and Rome have seasons, tropical and sub-saharan Africa doesn't, or to a lesser extent.
>>76187560
>I wouldn't mind living at a tropical island where you could spend a few hours every day just collecting clams, doing a bit of fishing and then chilling under a tree while you think about the volcano god
that's not how being a primitive works
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism
>>76183753
Yes but there is an intelligence that forms civilizations and the modern world.
The other type does nothing and blames the white man
