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Sunday, June 5, 2016
Liturgical Year C, Cycle II
Today's Mass
Tenth Sunday in Ordinary Time
Readings for Mass
First Reading: First Kings 17:17-24
Responsorial Psalm: Psalms 30:2, 4, 5-6, 11, 12, 13
Second Reading: Galatians 1:11-19
Gospel: Luke 7:11-17
Today's Rosary: The Glorious Mysteries
Good Scenes to watch
>Jesus Anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d-uB0vaoQo
>Jesus of Nazareth Sermon on the Mount:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCbJ4vnMNg
>Jesus chases Jews out of the Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEtBs6j7QgU
>Jesus gives sight to the Blind....and takes sight from those who can see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7vamVg99E
>Roman Centurion has more faith than anyone in Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNLSBjYDPko
>Ben Hur scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVlf7OiiTJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbt2UUthWg0
>>76168976
>>76168976
The Gospel today was about the dead young man who Jesus revived.
We had a deacon in and that has made me ponder becoming one. Seems worthwhile desu
>>76168399
Anthropology. It got me into theology and philosophy (though they interweave often of course) as subdisciplines..
I attribute me beginning to take religion seriously many years ago to me reading the book The Grand Titration. It's a cultural synthesis that attempts to explain why the scientific revolution occurred in Europe and not China. It's hardly about religion whatsoever but it a pretty damn good book regardless.
>Also curious Wolf do you have a confirmation saint? Curious as to who yours might be. I found a calling to St Martin of Tours.
I was the weird kid with a confirmation saint of the opposite gender.
St. Therese of Lisieux
She's a popular saint, I know, but I have a ton of respect and love for her.
Now I know nothing St. Martin. What drew you to him?
I may head to bed soon but I'll leave the thread open because I'm interested in your response.
Night, man.
>>76168957
Yes, sounds normal. Sound minded. But somehow this is so unstable taking oversight over the whole of Christianity.
I don't mean to force this sort of thing. Over stress it.
>>76169094
In the general yesterday there was a shitposting Italian who was tipping his fedora for about an hour and then turned around and revealed that he was testing us.
>>76168577
>How did all these denominations happen!
The early church maintained centralization and authority through the passing down of the authority of the apostles. This apostolic succession is what defines Coptics, Catholics, and Orthodoxy. Coptics came from one bishop that disagreed with an early church council and went and kept his group with him and east and west kingdoms that Christianity centered around over time split over (mainly) the practical power of the different seats of the apostles. They both agreed that the seat of the apostle Peter had primacy over the others but the western kingdom thought that the seat of Peter had unique powers in its office over the other ones and the eastern kingdom thought all office were, in a practical sense, equal to one another and that the primacy of Peter's office was one of respect. "First among equals".
The seat of Peter is what the western kingdom (Rome) would call the papacy and the man in the office, the pope.
Protestantism came in reaction to the bad actions of the church at one point and attempted to restore the faith's principles to accuracy. Having no faith in the apostolic line's teachings or traditions they stuck to what they could see as solid: Scripture. And so they focused on scripture and independently researched it so to cause a reformation of the faith away from the church which they disdained. This led to Christianity in the west as you see now. Protestantism led to a massive shift in how foundational elements of Christianity were perceived in the west too. There are thousands of denominations as there are thousands of interpretations of the texts and practice.
>>76169212
Just pretending to be retarded?
>>76169212
Nah he was just trying to pull a double mindfuck.
>worshipping saints
>worshipping mary
>>76168976
Prottie heretics not welcome, anon, c'mon now.
/pol/ is a Catholic board
>of peace
>>76169256
Well at least I thought so but apparently >>76169283
>>76169404
worship=/=praise
>>76169366
Everyone is welcome.
Posting a few more pictures.
>>76169238
Maybe it is a bit /pol/ too.
Mainstream there is a good atmosphere about it quite often. But visiting churches lots of bad and radical criticism too.
>>76169404
Could be worse
>>76168976
Having sex and then having children is a God commandment
post Christ-chan lewd
Goodnight all.
>>76169238
>>76169062
>St. Martin
Tis also quite a well known, famous for a few miracles. But most well known for an act he did while forced into the Roman Army as he was the son of a general, was a closet Christian and when marching into a city saw a cold homeless beggar. So he took his cloak and cut it in two giving it to the beggar, then had a dream where Jesus was draped in the cloak he gave the beggar and got himself baptized.
But what drew me to him at first when I was going through patron saints was that he was the patron saint of soldiers. Which I thought could be interesting. But looking into him I can see quite a lot of similarities between him and me in upbringing. And I've been looking to be more merciful and charitable. '
Also have had a soft spot for beggars and the homeless for a long time. Which he is also patron saint, all this and that hes quite well known in Italy, Spain & France my favorite countries in the world just all seemed to add up.
>>76169652
Christ-Chan is saving herself for a good God-fearing man anon.
>months I've wasted for an anti-theist to make a "Jesus take the wheel" joke so I can post this
>it never happens
>>76168976
Is Ben Hur a good movie? Like is it watchable if the only movies are like are The Dark Knight?
Old shit is boring as fuck.
Im about done with my Master degree. I am a Christian, at least I'd like to think so.
But things are not working out for me. And I am getting tired of being miserable all the time.
Im thinking of just giving up on life. Giving up trying to find a girl, get a job, do anything really. Im thinking of going back on pot and basically not stopping until I am dead.
Convince me not to do it. Because if things keep going the way they are going, im just going to do drugs and be a shut in until I die.
>>76168976
Jesus and his frend Budda.
>>76169706
Mary didn't have a choice
Making children is not a choice, just make them
>>76169212
every atheist is testing christians thats why there are so much atheist attacks in the last decade.
>atheist doing gods work
>>76169776
I think it's a fantastic movie. Don't watch it for special effects or anything, but for the story itself.
There are also some incredible things that old movies did to substitute the need for special effects.
Vid related was all done by people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgywD3XJaWU
not that i hate religion, but i went to a korean church since i was born until bout ~17yrs old.
been about 2 yrs since i last went for a sermon/service.
is there any way that any of u could get me back into it?
>>76169871
>Mary didn't have a choice
the whole point is that she had a choice and she made the right one
Vattene.
>>76169880
So fellow, countryman, or maybe vpn user. How long have you worked on this?
(>>76169718)
>>76170002
Do you still believe in Christ?
If so, here's motivation.
Listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4e8ox-kpg
and then watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNi2kDiu0L0
>Rome ex-communicates anyone who is a freemason
*whips out feet*
>>76169851
>Im about done with my Master degree.
hmm, you fell for the university meme. no wonder you are so suicidal. ill assume victoria since you seem so depressed. no wonder you are having difficulty finding strength.
>I am a Christian, at least I'd like to think so.
considering volunteering your time doing something like planting trees. clear your head with the time outdoors and see if your faith is reignited by natures beauty and your conscience restored by the fruits of gods work.
>But things are not working out for me. And I am getting tired of being miserable all the time.
>Im thinking of just giving up on life. Giving up trying to find a girl, get a job, do anything really. Im thinking of going back on pot and basically not stopping until I am dead.
pot doesn't kill you quickly there are certainly worse things out there. if your gonna take mood-altering chemicals and have a firm belief in sacraments then perhaps you should look into psilocybe subaeruginosa, which happen to be in season currently.
>Convince me not to do it. Because if things keep going the way they are going, im just going to do drugs and be a shut in until I die.
come on m8, you just sound a little bit burned out. finish that masters and then take some time away from academia. do work you find rewarding and disregard the field, at least until this bleak time your life passes and you find the inner strength to keep going. anyway chin up lad you wont find a good woman by sulking or locking yourself away.
>>76169296
>worshipping
kek
>>76170427
wow anon, you totally convinced me, I am #reformedmissile now
>>76169851
What value is there in any of it? I suppose there is escapism but escape towards what? It's not practical nor does it help you in any way.
Depression can work like an illness so I would consult someone about doing something to overcome it. You know full well that this sort of thing isn't natural and isn't good whatsoever so there is more worth in finding help to overcome it than simply letting it fester.
I don't know what's going on in your life, man, but I would say to not try to put meeting some expectations first. First, in any situation, is to pursue your own good. We naturally seek our fulfillment and of course we find it in a life dedicated towards love (obviously not romantic or brotherly love but God's love - to will the good of all things without self-interest) but you can't expect to get anywhere or enjoy anything if you aren't handled yourself.
Besides local help, I'd recommend doing something to interest you as you could also be very burnt out as well. A change of pace or a relocation towards what is valuable in life may be better for you, man.
>>76169682
NIGHT MAN
>>76169851
>>76170438
>But things are not working out for me. And I am getting tired of being miserable all the time.
also if you dont mind me asking what do you think is the root cause of your misery?
>>76170501
*tips fish hat*
Do your worst my friends.
It's getting too late.
You all have a good night.
>>76170714
>>76170294
the picture was 300 hours in paint
http://download.cnet.com/Free-Meme-Creator/3000-2192_4-75904184.html
>>76163183
So it is even logical and known that this is how it works at the moment, that some people are willing to set something like this up, to be able to say something against the heaven and hell revelations.
I don't want to describe them just like that. But there are interests.
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
>yfw you realized God exists and the Earth was created as a fixed and unmoving plane
Shouldn't we all try to do something about this whole matter? Christian or not?
To give a brief oversight what
- untrue commandments. Sexuality is some sort of central and important example.
- the church must be a general acceptable common spiritual house.
-elaboration on facts that shut out the need for all this darkness and insecurity about God.
>>76171159
Lol why would you even think that, all the science to confirm a round earth has come from christians
>>76171352
>science
>nasa meme images
literally lmaoing right now
>>76171381
So she is your girlfriend?
>>76168976
Hindu here.
To protestants-
Why do you guys think that people of other religion are going to hell for not following the Jesus?
>>76171079
the whore of babylon is protestantism
>>76171381
>those eyebrows
>>76170567
Can I get some more verses which stand against Calvinism?
My Church is a Calvinist and I need to learn more about the other views.
>>76171497
Ask sathya or mere. The whole religion thing is not this well. We somehow fight over this sort of things somatically.
>>76171446
I am not talking about nasa i am talking about the older scientist , like pic related he surely must have figured it out that the world was flat
>>76171446
>what is spaceX
>what is ESA
>who are Russians
>who are Indians
>who are Chinese
AKA:
>protestburger really belive that NASA have monopol on spacecraft
>>76171819
good goy
>>76171446
I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YzeGRFDIms
>>76171938
Flat Earth is a meme
I clearly stated it's a fixed and unmoving plane. >>76171159
>>76172016
Explain night and day cycle then.
>>76171938
Also the claim is that the disks are of light, not that they have light casted on them.
Not even an eric dubayfag but come on.
>>76172125
tesla coil
>>76171938
get on with the times. The new fad is the concave earth.
Americans are bat-shit crazy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0yBX68g3vk
>>76172158
explain eclipses and how we can predict them with the globe earth model
>>76172158
>tesla coil
>a form of induction coil for producing high-frequency alternating currents.
kek
Post better sci-fi next time.
>>76171497
But say, do you think it is actually true and genuine that Hinduism sometimes gets actual Christ ported to earth in a way Christianity would only dream of?
>>76172266
>explain eclipses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUkjb4bbjpc
lmao
also eclipses were predicted before the globe model was even memed
>>76172326
>being this retarded and uneducated
>see flag
Oh.
>>76171446
What fucking idiot did make this picture? Holy shit, how is one that ignorant.
The reason why these pictures "change" is because they aren't pictures of the Earth but a collage of pictures taken by satellites orbiting our planet. From time to time they make different new ones with better resolution pictures, that's why these pictures "change" because they weren't pictures of the whole planet to start with. As a matter of fact there are very few pictures of the complete orb, mainly because 1) There have only been a handful missions that went far away enough with good enough photographic instruments to take pictures of the whole planet and 2) even when they were, Earth would not show all due to the position of the sun (remember the moon phases?).
>>76172423
>There have only been a handful missions
Yes the archbishops of the atheist spherecuck model religion
>enough with good enough photographic instruments
Funny that our satelights cant take just one unedited image of our Earth
>even when they were, Earth would not show all due to the position of the sun (remember the moon phases?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwimocU0IIc
>>76169238
>Protestantism led to a massive shift in how foundational elements of Christianity were perceived in the west too. There are thousands of denominations as there are thousands of interpretations of the texts and practice.
I think our modern problems came from this. Its esstentially the rejection of a centralized authority on morals and opened up subjective interpretation of morals. Hence all the nonsense we deal with now, people feel they can interpret personally things.
>>76169652
It isnt a commandment. You are not required to have children. Christ even said its better to be virgins.
>>76172341
Hinduism doesn't have any problem with Christ, it considers itself more as a way of living life than a religion.
You don't need to pursue a god in Hinduism, good things will happen to you if you are a good person whether you believe in God or not.
>>76172838
Oh and it is Meher, not mere.
Looking at it logically, I think Hinduism is organised as a religion like the Romans organised the state.
>>76172838
Well anyway. I can understand you would play your role as a '' Hindu dindu '' to take revenge. At least here on /pol/.
>>76172249
>Americans are bat-shit crazy:
Lord steven christ he is the second comming something ?
>>76173546
who knows. The fact that he calls himself that certainly seems to imply he is insane. The guy literally holds speeches where he explains his concave earth theory, and some people unironically listen to them
>>76169212
He ended up posting a pretty good list of gregorian chants, though.
Please post more Christ-chans!
She looks like my gf, tired eyes and all.
>>76174105
Post more gf first
So how about going to change the whole of Christianity.
>>76174392
I saw you post the same idea yesterday. What do you mean by this?
>>76174105
Is Christ-chan catholic? Im hoping she is.
>>76174392
Make it about tradition and strong against the degneracy of the modern west. We need to change the image of the church away from weak old pasty guys who whine about charity to strong young bold men. Im embarrassed to say im catholic as the church is filled with old women and cuck men. I want to see strong valorous men in the church.
>>76169296
>Doesn't realise that you worhsip saints to come closer to their divinity and in turn god through christ
G'nite commie
>>76174562
sounds like you want orthodoxy, my brother!
>>76174562
>>76174678
Like if Orthodoxy is any better.
>>76174678
Orthodoxy is ok sometimes, but the problem is its tied too much to certain nationalities, that just divided the faith up. We need a universal church that inspires people to be brave not cowardly, and it is possible as the crusaders were brave and valorous so I know its possible. I just wish the pope was more like Pius X. Or even Lefevbre, i think he had some guts.
>>76174491
I think to start with, religion works very unorganised and contradictory. So it can take just open people that talked about it in open circumstances to achieve a worthy result.
And maybe professional people, if that was the circumstance, why wouldn't they too be just ordinary people? As with most people that just have a job.
Meanwhile looking at the facts about God, it is workable to make it into something that can be taken far more serious.
>>76169452
How do I get a qt conservative girlfriend?
"Protest"antism
>advocates a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with God, mediated through Lord Jesus
>this is biblically supported
>O.T. & N.T. equally studied
"Roman Catholicism"
>religious conformity mediated through a priest who mediates through a pope who mediates through Mary who mediates through Lord Jesus
>not biblically supported
>claims to be biblically supported
>claims that biblically supported means nothing
>claims that protestantism is heresy for claiming to be biblically supported
>claims that no one can understand the bible except the pope
>claims that tradition is more important than the bible
>claims that tradition being more important than the bible is biblically supported
>claims that writings of dead saints which aren't in the bible, hundreds of years after the apostles wrote the bible, constitutes being biblically supported
*tips fish hat*
>>76168976
How do you guys perceive the concept of God?
Do you think Christ was God or He was just an Avatar/Messenger?
>>76174923
>And maybe professional people, if that was the circumstance, why wouldn't they too be just ordinary people? As with most people that just have a job.
I'm trying to avoid typical cliches from the Bible.
>>76175202
He is God, but not the father. He's the Son of God, who was given the title of God also.
I'm born from a Muslim family but I'd like to become full on Christian.
How do I convert? I know Trudeau is bringing a ton of Syrians in, maybe I could wife one of the Christian ones.
>>76175108
Isnt that your entire country?
>>76175303
Yes, but I want a white conservative wife.
>>76175282
You basically just read the gospel and know that Jesus Christ is Lord, and came to redeem you and take away your sins and the penalty of death.
Then you get baptized and go from there. It's a relationship with God. He will guide you.
>>76175282
Go to an Orthodox church and talk to a priest about it.
>>76168976
I'm an atheist but I have decided that I will read the bible. I figured I should read one of the most influential tomes of human history before I fully consider myself an atheist.
Also Christian girls are qt
>>76175181
>This level of delusion
Keked hard. Go, find Catholic Catechism, learn dogmas and then you can TRY to have any theological discussion.
>>76174923
>a worthy result.
With this, stil. I was thinking what I said here and it could be a false statement.
But it IS the best thing to do as a Christian.
>>76175427
>>76175496
I've already started reading the Bible, already accepted Christ as my saviour.
So basically the next most important step is getting baptized?
I'd like to join a Christian community but to be honest they're slowly dying in Toronto...
>>76175524
>I have decided that I will read the bible
May God bless you and speak to your heart.
Start here. Once you've read the N.T. you go back to understand the O.T.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+1&version=KJV
This site also has an audio bible, which is quite nice.
https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/audio/?recording=kjv-mclean
>>76175202
>>76175661
Thank you, holy anon.
Are Jews welcome in this thread!?!?!
>>76175735
no, you're still on /pol/
>>76175645
>>a worthy result.
Or it just IS a false statement. I can't start talking like a (...don't know a name for it..but it is this known thing)
But it is the most smart thing to do as a Christian.
>>76175659
Yeah, pretty much, talk to a priest about converting and he'll guide you.
>>76173528
What revenge?
>>76175659
You are already a saved Christian, brother. May God bless you and lead you.
Yes, you need to be baptized. Find a nice local church for that. The best baptism would be in living clear running water, like a fresh river, but at the end of the day, it's symbolic.
>>76170722
>You all have a good night.
it's the morning
>>76175252
>father
How do you know "His" gender?
>>76175700
I don't get it.
>>76175391
White as in race or as in skin color?
Because I'm sure there are white skinned girls in Pak.
What will not accepting anything of Christianity get people at the end times?
>>76168976
Do Christians really believe that the Earth came about 6,000 years ago?
>>76176002
Because He told us.
Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
>>76176092
Christians should. Catholics would rather assume that some big bang happened and then a bunch of impossible shit happened and then God made Man out of fish or something.
After all, it was a Catholic who came up with that retarded theory, to support an atheistic view of reality. It wasn't a protestant or creationist.
>tfw your lord and savior was a shitskin
>>76175865
>>76175659
Baptism is not just symbolic, this is why i reccomend you visit an Orthodox or at least Catholic church, so that you have a solid base for your faith. The protestant denominations vary quite a lot and some of them stray far from the truth.
>>76175391
>tfw I'm white and want a brown conservative wife
>>76171938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOz_J6tJVU
The real slamdunk with Stefan Molymeme
>>76176263
>Baptism is not just symbolic
Will tap water work in a baptism?
Will river water work in a baptism?
A person being born again with water is what matters. Some people don't live near rivers and some people have even been baptized in their bath tub.
The cleaner and fresher the better. In a church they use 'holy water', as long as it's clean, it still works.
>>76175659
>>76175282
You could also go into any Roman Catholic church and talk to the priest. He could sign you up for some classes and then you would be baptized and confirmed.
I wouldn't say they're dying, society is just changing. In the US there was a culture that everyone had to be Christian and everyone had to attend church. This has now changed and what you're seeing is all the cultural "Christians" left and the true Christians remained. The congregations may be smaller, sure, but it's for the better.
God bless you and good luck in your journey.
>>76176418
Sure, the source of the water doesn't matter, but baptism is a holy mystery that changes your whole being, so it's not just some symbolic ritual that has little meaning.
>>76175735
I remember you from yesterday as well. What kind of Jew are you?
>>76176558
>He could sign you up for some classes and then you would be baptized and confirmed
Excuse me, I'd just like to add this.
Matthew 9:9
And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.
Matthew 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
God does not require you to take a crash course or register for entry, or "confirm" anything. He didn't vet anyone, or turn anyone away, or make them bow to any earthly authority.
What you are saying is not biblical.
>>76176610
Yes, friend, I am not dismissing baptism as anything small. It is a mystery, and I was the person to tell the guy to get baptized, it is important. May God bless you.
>>76176102
>Matthew 5:16
What does this mean?
>>76176871
>What does this mean?
It's the name of the book, along with the chapter number, and verse number.
>>76176237
I don't think you realize how skin color actually works.
>>76176558
Wow. So one have to go through a procedure to be Christian? Can't one just follow the teachings of Christ and call himself/herself a Christian?
>>76176002
No one really does. The basic concept is that there is one and only God in three persons. Here have a good essay about it: https://henryimler.wordpress.com/2006/11/16/augustine-and-the-trinity/
>>76177131
Being a Christian is a process of moving closer to God by turning from sin and worldly things.
Following His teachings, is an actual process. So essentially, you've answered your own question; no you cannot follow Lord Jesus without doing anything.
>>76171853
What is joint military operation from the 60s to prevent any1 going too far into the south pole ?
Stay low pleb
Also operations fishbowl and dominic .
You're a really lowly pleby
>>76176237
Nah...
>>76176871
Gospel of Matthew (a), Chapter 5 (b), Verse 16 (c)
>>76177131
>So one have to go through a procedure to be Christian?
I wouldn't say it's a procedure. It's just a few meetings of Christians where you discuss the basic teachings of the church, to be a better informed Christian. Then they are baptized into the church. :)
>>76176791
>God does not require you to take a crash course or register for entry, or "confirm" anything.
Yes that true. But they knew God personally. We don't have this privilege so we must teach about him. If we do not do this we will have millions of Ariuses, Nestorians and all that heretical bullshit.
>He didn't vet anyone, or turn anyone away,
And we do the same.
>make them bow to any earthly authority.
And we do the same
>What you are saying is not biblical.
We do what Apostles did before us.
>>76176791
>RCIA
It's simply a series of meetings where new converts are taught the basics of the church (history and sacraments). This is done before baptism so they are better informed Christians.
>>76178377
Jak tam kościół w Polsce przeżywa?
>>76174638
nice try pagan
>>76178694
Dobrze. W sensie mogło by być lepiej, młodzieży ubywa ale ogólnie trzyma się dobrze. Patrz badania CBOSu z 2010.
>>76178284
Who painted it?
How was church today lads? I'll be heading off to service in a bit.
What does everyone think of Jesus Christ Superstar, Shin Megami Tensei and Binding of Isaac?
>>76179001
No idea, sorry. :/
>Satan is the evil one
>Proceeds to violently and hatefully force their belief on people
Satan is the only true god.
>>76178902
>młodzieży ubywa
Przeważnie wracają jako dorośli. Tu w Ameryce to dużo młodzieży chodzi na msze po łacinie.
>>76179206
Headed to a 12 pm mass. :)
>>76179465
I remember you were seeking help in the /csg/ threads yesterday, anon. You should go to a church and talk to a priest. He will be able to help you.
How do I into Orthodoxy?
>>76179450
Looks like El Greco becouse those hands
>>76179398
> Jesus Christ Superstar
Harmless I gusses. But it's for '60 so it's automaticly shit.
> Shin Megami Tensei
No idea what it is
> Binding of Isaac
Edgy: The game
>>76180076
You do not.
>>76180076
I think you mean Roman Catholicism. ;)
>>76180140
>> Shin Megami Tensei
>No idea what it is
An RPG where you recruit demons and either fight against Satan and Lucifer or fight YHWH.
>>76180242
>fight against God
Obviously it's retarded.
>>76168976
It doesn't matter what religion you choose.
Religion is like rivers merging into the same sea. No matter which river you choose, if you follow it persistently, you are gonna end up in the same sea (God). :)
>>76180565
What god(s) do you subscribe to? I read that Hinduism has 300 mil gods.
>>76180565
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What to do about low church attendance in our town?
Catholic church by the way in a catholic town.
>>76180701
There is only one God. Those 300 millions are just different representations of God.
You wanna know why?
>>76180707
Holy Shit. Is this a cult? Are you trolling? Maybe it has to be interpreted in a particular way?
>>76180827
Who cares you heathen.
>>76180827
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Don't worry, friend. God is faithful, even when we aren't. Don't be discouraged, God's kingdom is better than this world, and He loves you so much. Only God can call those people back.
>>76181005
Do you honestly expect an intellectual debate, or for me to reason with you about this? Will worshiping cows, garbage, or toilets bring a person to God? No, shit is not holy either.
>>76180827
You cannot force people into believing God. It has to come naturally.
>>76180827
Evangelize, my friend. Let people know you're a Christian and evangelize them by example showing that you're a good person.
People, especially young ones, are impressionable. The reason people are leaving church is because they think "it's the new thing". If you're up for it, you should always be open to discussing your faith with others. :)
>>76181294
Pic related.
>>76181344
>showing that you're a good person
No one but God is good. But yes, we are to serve as examples. A city on a hill cannot be hid.
>>76181277
We cannot advocate for any way that will bring people to God because you and I have not seen God ourselves.
>>76181005
>You wanna know why?
Sure.
>>76181457
>you and I have not seen God ourselves
That is true. However, Lord Jesus doesn't lie, and told us of Him.
I've also heard Lord Jesus' voice, so it's literally 100% confirmed to me that He exists.
Lord Jesus is also God.
Psalm 46:10
Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
Thanks for the pastebin.
How was everyone's Church service today?
>>76180827
Start praying for answers, read the Bible, wait on the Lord and don't trust us or the world.
>>76169559
True. I think I just have to trust God to open the hearts and minds of his believers.
>>76169462
He is the only reason I haven't killed my self. Sincerely.
>>76171629
http://heresies.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/calvinism.html
>>76181687
About to leave for mass.
What denomination are you, anon?
>>76182135
The only one I can be in my area. A Baptist. That doesn't mean my beliefs match but we're all believers and trusting in our Lord and King Jesus Christ.
>>76181967
Same, to be honest. Ever since I stopped being a fedora, God has somehow made me feel happy again
I owe Him big time, so I try and keep myself away from sin and help others do the same
>>76181543
Different people have different temperaments (obviously). So in accordance to their temperaments, they see different patterns and representations of God. Actually, we do not have the capability to see God with our cosmic eyes, God can only be seen from the eyes of the mind/soul/Aatman, also known as The Third Eye. So when the saints perceive God, they give illustrations based on the patterns they saw with their Eye.
Not all the representations of God are based on that though. Many of them are just different reincarnations of the same Avatar.
This could make no sense to you because meditation is not a major part in Christianity (afaik).
>>76168976
That's a hella cute pic, OP
>>76171159
>>76171446
>>76171882
>>76171918
>>76172016
>>76172158
>>76172379
>>76172578
I knew protestant fundies were logically challenged but I mean, really.
>>76182279
>I owe Him big time, so I try and keep myself away from sin and help others do the same
You can say that again. I am completely floored by Gods mercy. I just want to be the light and salt of the earth sharing the gift of his mercy with others as many of /pol have done with me. I only got Baptized in March 15th of this year. Coincidentally on the 90th birthday of a friend. I'm only 27 but surrounded by old and young Christians now.
Its hard to believe how my beliefs have flipped on their head. Every single one. So much joy in believing in Jesus Christ and knowing he is a real Living God.
>>76181585
>Lord Jesus doesn't lie
subjective argument.
>I've also heard Lord Jesus' voice
greentext it.
Not that I hate Christianity... I like it. My point is that you should not follow it as a cult, and keep your mind open for interpretations.
>>76182565
that feel
>>76182453
Matthew 6:23
But if your vision is poor, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
Isaiah 30:10
Who say to the seers, "You must not see visions"; And to the prophets, "You must not prophesy to us what is right, Speak to us pleasant words, Prophesy illusions.
>>76168976
>Christian General
Nice subreddit
>>76182734
Its the best feeling. I want all my jaded atheist friends to know it.
(Delusional fags who were indocturned into idiot beliefs by their idiot parents and now won't stop believing in fairy tales because they can't except death general)
Fixed that for ya ; )
>>76182746
Explain please?
>>76182565
We all need to share in God's grace mate. Life just doesn't have the same flavour without it
God bless you and take care
>>76182700
Proverbs 17:15
He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD.
>>76182856
Bullshit.
Many of us decided to convert in adulthood. Just look at the posters above you.
I know you guys are really intelligent and critical, But how do i regain belief after i stopped believing. My belief started to break down when i stopped believing people were created from dirt
>>76182700
>subjective argument
India is filthy. I've seen people worship rats and toilets, and swim in garbage. I've seen people brush their teeth and shit in a river filled with floating corpses and flowers.
Is it just possible, that you are wrong?
Worshiping animals and other shit is not going to get you to God. Your people had a cargo cult going. Writing about demon elephants and spider people and all other trash that trespassed against your people, leaving genetic mutations, deformities and filthy vain religions behind.
There is only 1 true living God. And He doesn't look like an animal, swim in garbage or leave heaven to have sex.
>>76182927
>He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous
When did I do so?
>>76182892
Matthew 6:22
The eye is the lamp of the body. If your vision is clear, your whole body will be full of light.
Matthew 6:23
But if your vision is poor, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
Luke 11:34
Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your vision is clear, your whole body also is full of light. But when it is poor, your body is full of darkness.
Luke 11:35
Be careful, then, that the light within you is not darkness.
God is Light and without his explicit directive we are not to prophecy or make images or any such thing. We can be given over to delusions and illusions if we follow after our hearts and a more comfortable lie. Many false prophets have come from those intending to do good but have instead justified evil by listening to their own hearts and not God.
>>76183126
By saying God is not the God of the Bible.
>>76182559
Oh wait, fund out why protestant fundies are ass-backwards retarded
>>76183032
Watch the videos in the pastebin... They really helped me.
I am a Christian.
I am also a 26 year old kissless virgin. I was thinking about going to Thailand and fucking hookers for two weeks nonstop.
Would this condemn me to an eternity in hell? Is prostitution really high up there on the sins ladder?
Also, I gamble a lot. Is this O.K.?
I mean, I don't want to go to hell.
>>76182856
Thanks for that enlightened post, m'friend.
>>76182453
That's a nice interpretation. I know you guys have different steps of being enlightenment. I did some meditations last year, but it ended up not working out for me.
God bless you and good luck, anon.
>>76182700
>My point is that you should not follow it as a cult
We follow the teachings of the Bible. :)
>>76183032
You don't have to take every teaching for granted. Try to practically incorporate those teachings into your life and see the change. If you think the change is negative, drop the belief.
This is what Buddha said.
>>76183032
You only need to believe the first people were created from dirt tbphwyf
Which is kind of true if you imagine the first lifeform was born in electrically charged aminoacidey mud (cf. abiogenesis)
>>76183240
>insults
You know insulting those who believe in Jesus Christ makes yourself an enemy of God.
>>76183032
>i stopped believing people were created from dirt
Earth contains everything that's in our bodies, except the breath of God. He added that.
>>76183333
Meh. Not satisfactory to me. If and I know Jesus Christ is real. So is the rest of the Bible.
>>76168976
>Jesus anime
That's fucking degenerate you christcuck
>>76183279
Giving yourself over to lust means you are not listening to the Holy Spirit. Read the Bible and pray for strength. Wait on the Lord. Stop looking to the world for your courage.
God may want you to be a virgin for the rest of your life. That is his choice. Not yours to make.
>>76183442
That's where I'm at as well, but you get there steadily, and if materialistic reason can act as bridge towards that, then so be it
what is some cringey shit you guys have done when you were atheists? (if you ever were)
>listened to linkin park
>listened to asking alexandria
>flipped out at my teacher for saying evolution was just a theory
>refused to go to cemeteries
>>76183618
Well I tried to reconcile things like you did too but I just can't do it anymore so I'm reading stuff at creation.com and creationwiki and reading books on the subject.
>>76183279
Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
>These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
>>76183650
Watched every single famous atheist youtube video
>tfw darkmatter2525 fanboi
>>76183650
>bash Christians as a hobby 24/7
>spout evolution religiously
>look down on others constantly
>think I was God for awhile
>believe I was an Angel for awhile
>look at hentai and tell others I'm good and not a sinner
I'm a worthless dirty rag without the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
>>76183356
There's a difference between those who believe in Jesus Christ and outright heresy. Sola scriptura and sola fide are hollow and overtly foolish in nature, creating people like Jim Baker and other heretics who falsely interpret the word of god to further their own wealth and allow hypocrisies to form. You are not solely judged by faith alone.
>>76183279
That's not a good idea. Find a girl at church or even on some christian dating site
>>76183721
I just know faith and knowledge are 100% mutually exclusive, so I take the Bible only on faith and everything that doesn't detract from its moral teachings on empiricist evidence
>>76183855
>Sola scriptura and sola fide are hollow and overtly foolish in nature
That is sadly just your opinion because I've known a lot of very studious and very smart people who believe the Bible is the only Word of God and the only Word we need from God.
Some might come to faith through other ways but ultimately the goal is to serve Jesus Christ the way he wants to be served. Not through oral laws or oral traditions passed down by man.
>>76183997
>I just know faith and knowledge are 100% mutually exclusive
I disagree but we're all on different paths to Jesus Christ and the fullness of our lives will look different.
God speed and God keep you always.
>>76183109
Does your lord teach you hate people just for their lifestyle? Does you lord teach you to hate anybody under any circumstances?
>>76183179
God is within us. We just have to see beyond the veil of mind. Behind the veil lies the soul.
Also, if you think we can see God with our cosmic eyes, what about the blind people?
>>76183221
God of Bible, God of Quran, God of Veda etc are all one and the same God. The Ultimate.
>>76183778
Thanks. I won't do it.
Gambling looks to be O.K. though.
>>76183032
You can regain faith at any age, my friend. A lot of the anons here came back to our Lord in their adult years.
Check out of some the links in the OP, but besides that you should try praying to God. It's a wonderful experience. At first it may not work out, but as you get used to it you'll feel a deeper connection with God. Go somewhere where you can be left alone, almost to meditate. If this doesn't work out, try attending a church to pray in a community setting. This works better for some people.
Besides that, read the Bible. I'm a cradle Catholic and I didn't take my faith seriously until I started doing all of these things more sincerely. The Bible will show you steps on how Lord Jesus is actually trying to improve our lives. These are not commands because he doesn't like us or is anti-fun, these are things genuinely made to make our lives more fulfilling. I didn't appreciate them until I started living the real Christian lifestyle myself.
God bless you and good luck on your journey. :)
>>76184111
Who do I hate?
Ezra 6:21
And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the Lord God of Israel, did eat
>>76184009
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/sola.htm
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/scripture-and-tradition
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-1-to-reject-the-reformation-the-canon-of-scripture/
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
Also read "Rome sweet home"
>>76183650
I actually was agnostic for a time
>brony
>thought that somehow I was the main protagonist of the universe
>thought that somehow I would get to visit different realities and alternate universes because of that
>supported homosexuality
>thought my father was a stupid old man with old, dying values
>loved the idea of humanity one day being a single race of brown-skinned people
>loved the idea of one day there never being work as everything is automated
>sympathized with Islam
>believed in anthropomorphic global warming
>thought a little bit of socialism couldn't hurt
>used to watch thunderfoot
Shit like that.
>>76184071
I don't mind. God bless you too mate, I'm glad we've found Him in our own way.
May God give you strength in heart and keep you safe
>>76183279
Don't do it, anon.
I'm a 19 year old virgin, as well. I've had similar thoughts more than once. I always come to one conclusion: it's unfulfilling. Sex doesn't mean anything if it's not with a person that we love, someone special. I've had some friends tell me that they had random hookups and were later disappointed, as it was without love. There was no substance or intimacy, but just actions with a person that didn't care about them.
I suggest you just find a fellow Christian women that would love to share your love in God. If you can't find one in church, you can always try online dating.
>ChrstianMingle
>CatholicMatch - If you're Catholic, this is actually a great service.
There's actually some great marriages that come out of this service.
God bless and good luck.
It's not hateful to be disgusted by abominable things.
The ancient Israelites were traveling through land occupied by all types of abominable people, including literal giants. Some would be using scat in their worship of false gods, or sacrificing their children on altars, I bet they even had people having gay sex while praying too. Imagine the most dirty things you can imagine, and how insufferable it would be to God's eyes.
Are you even surprised that the Israelites were told to go and wipe them out? The women, children and cattle too. They were even forbidden from taking any gold or silver from those places, because of how dirty they were.
And just do a Google search now of India's garbage problem, and the people who call the Ganges holy.
Sorry, but those things don't come from God.
>>76170714
>>76184111
The god of the Quran does not bear the same fruits of Yeshua nor the teachings thereof. Nobody can see God. We can only know God. We cannot understand God because his ways are not our ways.
Our Lord and King is Jesus Christ who has been given all authority by his Father. Without being born again, and receiving the holy spirit none shall enter into the Kingdom of God.
We are all sinners and we all need the sacrifice Jesus Christ went through for us. He died so that we didn't have to for our transgressions against God.
We are to be the light of the world and the salt of the world. We are not to condone sin and teach against it. We are to never compromise Gods law and keep it faithfully until the end. For we are make new creatures through Jesus Christ.
God knows our hearts and knows everything about us and knows those willing to receive and listen and obey. He reaches out to all of us who will hear of his Sons sacrifice but not all of us will accept it. That is our free will. People freely choose hell over a free gift given to us by Jesus Christ.
The only people with God in them are those that have received the Holy Spirit. We are neither children, daughters or sons of God without being reborn in Jesus Christ.
>>76184337
You have honestly missed my point. Reread what I wrote.
>>76184358
Thank you.
>>76168976
>tfw I took communion today in a state of mortal sin
You guys seem to be actual followers of Christ. That's wonderful, but how do you manage to reconcile that with the ideology of /pol/, which seems to be really against the egalitarian cross-culture basis of Christianity.
Making disciples of the world doesn't seem to work with anti-multiculturalism.
>>76185245
We aren't here to be ideological partners of /pol. We are here to be the light and the salt showing the truth of the Gospel.
>>76185245
multi-culturalism is anti christian
>>76185245
multiculturism is bad in the sense it almost always creates a melting pot or a situation tantamount to apartheid.
if people actively assimilate and adopt culture, where is the problem?
>>76185245
Think about it for a second. What's multi-cultural in having the same religion?
See - Acts 17:26
>>76185452
>if people actively assimilate and adopt culture, where is the problem?
Good point. I think so long as we remain strong in our faith and our reasons for our faith people will assimilate but sadly we've fallen down on both departments and instead people are bringing false religions and sinful practices with them and not assimilating.
>>76185517
True.
God is good.
>>76183032
Pray and Talk to god. Just try
>>76185688
The OT has the best historical battles.
>>76184740
No. You defended Sola scriptura and sola fide. I give you few links that BTFO those heretic ideas.
>Catholicism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0N09hR_m9I
+Hebrews 10 – one sacrifice, rejection of perpetual sacrifice (refutes mass)
+Exodus 20:4 (10 commandments) – no statues, nor bow to them
+Isaiah 8:19 – no prayers to the dead;
-When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?
+Romans 3:21-31, Romans 4 – Justification by grace through faith
+Galatians (all) – justification through faith apart from works
+1st Timothy 3 – married pastors/priests, refutes forced celibacy
+1st Timothy 4:1-5 – refutes dietary laws (no meat, lent) as well as celibacy
+Acts 10:25-26 – Peters tells Cornelius not to bow to him
-When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter raised him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am just a man.”
+Luke 11:27-28 – Jesus rebukes woman for revering Mary
-While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed.” But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.”
+Luke 8:19-21 – “My mother and brothers are these who hear God's word and put it into practice.”
-Jesus had brothers
-Zero reverence for mother
+Matthew 12:46-50 – same as above
+John 2:1-4 – Mary asks for wine. “Woman, what have I to do with thee?”
>>76185245
Multiculturalism in the present sense means the death of all cultures and the creation of a monotonous mono-culture of globalism.
I believe that all peoples of the earth should live amongst their own in peace, and not try and integrate with one another. We see this mistake time and time again from leftists as they push this idea that we should all live together in the same community. Such a community breeds distrust, and overall, divides.
Egalitarian in the sense that all men are created equal and are equal before the law and the eyes of god, not this false idea of a "progressive stack".
>>76185822
You think people who study the Bible and search it continuously aren't aware of these teachings? I was the first time I read the Bible. We are supposed to show fruits of being a faithful believer and follower of Jesus Christ. Bearing our own crosses and not sinning and following the commandments therein.
>>76185908
>Such a community breeds distrust, and overall, divides.
As it has for literally thousands of years
A few centuries ago, these millions of Syrians would have been raped, murdered, looted and enslaved if they ran to other countries.
>>76185828
>that pic
Cultural Christianity is rampant in the US. What we're undergoing is a cleansing in our churches, all the fake Christians are simply leaving. We'll be left with a purer church of true followers of Lord Jesus.
I've got a question: When society tried to destroy God as the focal point, they all just started worshiping something else (the state, political ideology etc). These people claim to embrace reason, but are as fanatic as any cult on observing baseless claims like muh diversity or racism against whites.
What does the Bible say about this kind of behavior?
>>76185908
You think this might be a prelude to a global religion which is not of God at all?
>>76185908
ethno-nationalism for all is the best solution.
Libs say africa and the middle east are screwed up because colonists but different cultures together. at the same time they will defend diversity
>>76186020
Yeah we are going through an uprising and revival right now. Its quite amazing to witness but it is the best kept secret from the world that Christianity in the West is about to explode.
