What do alt-right proponents mean when they say things like "right libertarian"?
I've noticed that a lot of them seem to have been ancaps and they seem to talk about Rothbard, Hoppe, etc, pretty often.
But they obviously believe in some government and in nationalism, so exactly how "libertarian" are they and what do they mean by libertarian?
A right libertarian believes in most of the libertarian philosophy, but wants some control on immigration, as opposed to the open borders policy.
>>76167894
Any form of libertarian government is just as much fiction in practice as "true" communism
>>76169136
I know, for example, that Hoppe justifies an anti-immigration policy (even as an ancap) because while we have a government public land is the property of the taxpayers.
But is Hoppe considered "alt-right"? Don't the alt-right believe in some more government?
>>76167894
much of the alt-right were libertarians that realized libertarianism will never work as long as non-whites and socialists exists, so naturally they turn to more authoritarian alternatives.
>>76167894
>What do alt-right proponents mean when they say things like "right libertarian"?
It means traditional non-pozzed culture is easy to create as long as the state gets out of the way.
I think that's fucking retarded and wrong but that is what they think.
>>76169645
But the state needs to be "in the way" when it comes to keeping foreigners from interfering with the experiment, right? National defense and immigration, etc?
Do they believe in more or less government than your typical limited gov paleocon?
>>76169390
>But is Hoppe considered "alt-right"?
no. for one the alt-right came into being long after Hoppe established himself as a libertarian. if anything he'd be considered a stepping stone between the alt-right and libertarianism.
>Don't the alt-right believe in some more government?
relative to libertarians, yes.
>>76169897
Isn't the alt-right something that has its roots in like the 90s? Hoppe has been around that long or even a little longer
>relative to libertarians, yes.
But is Hoppe's idea of a covenant communities or communities of free association where gays/blacks/etc could be excluded something that is reconcilable with the alt-right?
I guess what I'm wondering is if the alt-right is by definition something different? Like if by definition they believe in government. I guess because libertarianism itself can range from minarchism to anarchism to even governments just "limited" in comparison to it is now.
