Okay /pol/, so I've been told that one of the reasons Hitler chimped out and invaded the Soviet Union was that he had intelligence that they were planning an inevitable invasion of Europe. Word is that the Krauts even started finding maps and plans for this invasion during Barbarossa.
Is this true, or just a dank meme by Finns and Germans?
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Would like to know as well.
Why else would Hitler have done it though? He wasn't even done with England yet.
>>76157337
I've never seen proofs about that alleged red invasion to Europe and i would really like to see some.
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The 'Premptive Strike.' We are peace loving and non violent but we totally have to invade the fuck out of our neighbours in case they do it to us
>>76159387
Yeah, he's a meanie, but was he right?
Never seen anything like that anon, but I know the Soviets would have been happy to let Hitler chop up Western Europe if they got Eastern Europe.
Pretty sure Hitler could have won a war against UK (commonwealth), France and maybe even America.
Invading Russia is historically speaking, a gigantic shitshow.
>>76158031
He wanted to catch Stalin on guard, and he had the English locked on the other side of the English Channel. That's why D-Day was such a costly battle. The Germans had the entire coastline fortified to prevent having to fight a two-front war. But that failed because of German tactical blunders and superb Allied intelligence.
>>76157337
>planning an inevitable invasion of Europe
They did.
Stalin wanted a weak europe to watch the red army marching all the way through brittany.
But before stormfags start shitting all over the thread.
Russia couldn't get invaded. At the start the nazi reich had them by the backbone, Stalin had purged all his senior officers. After the battle of moscow though, the soviets regained a stable chain of command (especially after stalingrad).
The german high command had repeatedly failed to detect soviet counter-offenses and lost.
>>76157337
>I have been told
By whom, utter retards?
Since mid 20's was emphasizing the need of Lebensraum and a showdown with Russia.
>>76157337
Hitler got mad Stalin purged 99% of the Bolsheviks before he invaded.
Hi there Baader-Meinhof, nice to meet you yet again. I was studying this yesterday and yes I think it's true.
Go to 2:20
>Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story NEVER Told! - Part #08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSN4j0pHFs
Read the book:
>Viktor Suvorov - Icebreaker. Who Started the Second World War?
>>76157337
Both of them had been planning to stab each other in the back eventually, they were just waiting for the right time. At the end of the day Hitler had no choice but to invade the USSR, it was invade the USSR now and lose or be invaded by the USSR in 2 or 3 years and lose.
>>76160427
None of this changes the fact that the reds wrecked the Germans.
>>76160220
>>76159852
>>76160134
>Russia
Russia != USSR
>>76160714
It's so confusing to use the old country names because when someone say Soviet Union you don't know if they're talking about the Soviet Union in Russia or if they're talking about the Jewropean Union and the Jewnited Comrades of America. It's easier to just use the current names for the areas.
>Third Reich = Germany
>Rhodesia = Zimbabwe
>Soviet Union = Russia
>EU = Soviet Union
>>76160975
Maybe, but I don't think it's fair to associate Russians with a movement that was led and financed by international Jewry and the Eternal Georgian.
The reds only won because they abandoned their eastern defences after hearing Intel that Japan wouldn't be attacking them. If Japan had attacked from the east, there would have been no reinforcements and the Germans would have steamrolled Moscow.
>>76161403
YOU'RE A SAP, MISTER JAP.
>>76160427
>Viktor Suvorov
Why does /pol/ like traitors and Cold War propaganda so much?
>>76161403
>If Japan had attacked
Then they would have been rekt like before the war, while missing an opportunity to strike and cripple US and opening themselves wide to US attacks on the mainland.
>Germans would have steamrolled Moscow
Maybe they would have captured the ruins with great losses, but then not much would have changed, since all important industries were already evacuated behind the Urals.
>>76162769
>Being a traitor against Jewish mass murderers is bad
>>76157337
>planning an inevitable invasion of Europe
Well yeah, that's what they tried to do when they failed to steam role Poland, 1919-1920.
https://youtu.be/suVB3YGIUk0
Yeah, those commies totally didn't want to spread their ideology far and wide...
>>76162918
Which ones? They were all purged in 30s. Jewish mass murderers rule the West, if you haven't noticed, and they were trying to destroy USSR with such propaganda.
>>76163228
Poland was a part of Russian Empire, so you can't really blame them for trying to take it back. Plus, Poland tried to take advantage of civil war and grab land from Ukraine first and then got pushed in and now plays victim, like they always do.
>>76163366
That would be the original revolutionaries. Among them Trotskiy would be the most prominent and he was banished by Stalin and then later assassinated with an ice-pick to his skull. Stalin actually focused on "building socialism in one country" and surviving the impeding war with Nazi Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country
