Is anyone on /pol/ in the Military? What Branch and what is it like? I'm thinking about joining after college but I'm not sure where to go or if I have what it takes. Help me /pol/
>tfw singapore has conscription
>>76141320
As badass as it sounds dont enlist. Commisioned is the way to go.
You will be mocked for having a college education.
joining the Air Force, kind of regretting it already, feels like a joke of a branch
>>76141320
It sucks dick. They don't give a shit about you.
>>76141539
>Commisioned is the way to go.
Nope. You'll be stuck in promote or leave.
Enlisted for at least 4.
>Little extra pay
>A bit of respect from enlisted
>>76141611
Air Force is your best option what are you talking about
>Best treatment while in
>Looks best on a resume when you get out because 'only smart people join the air force'
I say this as enlisted Army
>>76141320
Currently a 74D CBRN specialist for the US Army. I'm thinking about reclassing to a MP.
I like it so far, basic was okay had it at FT. Leonardwood. I'm enjoying the aspect of constant death by deadly shit. Right now I'm specializing in how to cleanup nuclear accidents.
I'll probably be sent off to zipper land after completion to work with the Fukishma reactor
>>76141611
What're you gonna be doing? I was sort of thinking that or the marines, but I don't know if I could deal with the marine's basic training
>>76141320
Good goy
>>76142111
How do you get a role like that?
>>76141922
>>76141539
Also this, if you want to retire from the military, with the way it's set up now you have to game the system. Start enlisted, then go officer after you make E-5, E-6, that way you're less likely to be kicked out for stalling on an officer promotion
Enlisted Army here. Join the Air Force, go officer if you can.
>>76141320
Fight wars for Jews?
Why?
>>76142279
>>76142524
>its a "newfag from /b/ desperately trying to fit in" post
>>76141320
Muhreen here
Its alright I guess, got to do a little travelling and got to see the middle east for what ever it was worth.
Also I got /fit/ and I get to go to college after to give back to the US so it turned out to be ok
>>76141320
Let me ask you something anon. Look at the state of this country, look at the culture, look at your fellow Americans...are these people you really want to serve? You already have your education, why lower yourself to be in the new PC military? I was in the Army and I got out May 2015, if I could do it again, I'm not sure I would.
>>76142716
How was boot camp? Looks hard as shit
>>76141320
Why would you do this?
Airman here, the air force is like a corporation, not a brotherhood or a gang or whatever. If you have any questions, I'll answer them to the best I can.
Army Reserve here
We serve the Jews. Know from personal experience. Best Advice. DON'T JOIN
>>76143053
Is it true that the Air Force is filled with hair gel wearing metrosexuals?
>>76143053
Well I have no idea what I would want to do in the air force but it seems pretty appealing. Any recommendations for a career in the air force?
>>76143053
Second. Air Force is dope as fuck.
>>76141320
I did 20 years in the Army, OP. Wars for Israel isn't cool. Decent benefits though. I get a pension check every month. Can't complain. Lost some good friends in the Bush Crime Family's meaningless $3T Iraq clusterfuck. The neocons' days are numbered though.
>>76141320
Basically don't.
No matter the branch, it's full of morons and bureaucratic nightmare. Right now, it's mostly a peacetime military during budget cuts so it's roughly 1000x worse.
Don't get me wrong, there are great people in, but fuck me if you'll only rarely get to interact with them and most of the time the worst ones will be the ones you end up having to depend on for something or another.
Seriously, there are other, easier ways to get your loans paid off/forgiven, and far better ways to build connections.
As for foregoing whatever veterans benefits, they really aren't great/useful. You can't even really leverage it for an advantage in getting a job (barring the additional points for vet preference for government jobs) because EVERYBODY IS A VET...not really, but when you have a decade plus of war, you end up with a shitton of vets to the point where basically no one cares.
>>76143177
Depends on what you are interested in. And how smart you are.
>>76141320
Get your college education taken care of, start training right now for the PST, submit your shit to the Navy to try and become a SEAL Officer, perform almost perfectly at OCS, afterwards hope that you get accepted.
If you're not accepted to BUD/S as an officer, then that's fine. Just go the enlisted route for the Navy SEALs and apply for OCS in a couple of years to become a SEAL Officer.
If you want to join the military, then go all of the way and do some extreme shit. It doesn't have to be the SEALs either. Try to become a pilot, diver, para rescue, a special operations boatman, or something on the lines of this shit.
Meteorologist, 1w0x1, in the Air Force here. Ask me any questions about the branch.
>>76143171
Why yes, I am wearing hair gel right now.
>>7614234
After successful completion of your AIT (advanced individual training) if you want to continue and specialize in a specific area, as I wanted to learn more about radiation I got the opportunity to learn more about it
>>76143349
And when you wash out have fun being an MP
>>76141320
Only Sailorfag so far checkin in. Go navy if you want to travel. Otherwise go Airforce... I know I should have! Thinking about going Airforce Commissioning if I'm not too old by then though.
Lmao government shills filtered and reported
>>76142845
there's always one of the guard services
>>76142937
I went to boot camp in a weird fuckin' time.
The PC rules were barely being put in place but my DIs said they didn't give a shit about all that and I still got all the fun games and character building.
Its mostly mind games, you put out and they'll still fuck with you but you won't get singled out.
You keep your head down and do what youre told as fast as you can and scream loud as shit.
Only real shitty thing is when you get an edgelord who constantly fucks everything up for the platoon
>>76143349
and then there's THIS faggot...
>>76143412
Thanks for the answer.
>>76141320
I was in the Navy for 6 years. Traveling was fun, but the actual work and all the rules get old. Be prepared to stay late and superiors who think work is the only thing in the world.
>>76141320
I was in the navy for eight years.
If you want to go that route, be in the Seabees. Shit is chill as fuck.
>>76141320
I was in the coast guard. It was actually pretty great. Patrolled a popular vacation area. Plenty of pussy, almost zero chance of dying, can claim vet status.
With a degree you might even be eligible to be an officer.
>>76142360
>Promoted to E-6
>Commissioned at nine years
>Retired O-4
Would not do it again or recommend it to others.
>>76142126
Contracting, desk jockey
>>76143795
why's that?
>>76143742
>>76143733
I signed a contract as a GM and ship out in a month, anything that I should know about the rate?
>>76143053
Is it true the Air Force is filled to the brim with careerist ass kissers, SJW women and basketball americans that will fuck you over if it makes them look good or feel better?
I'm in army intelligence.
98% want to kill myself and am disgusted by the depravity of bureaucracy that encompasses my life, the government, and my life under the government.
The rest of the time I'm shooting machine guns and jumping out of airplanes and shit.
>>76143860
Its filled with way too much politically faggotry.
>>76143177
For the love of god pick a job that will give you experience in something for when you get out. Shit like the various avionics, electronics, commo tech, and that kind of deal. If you're talking officer corps, I don't know about how the zoomies do it, but in the Army, unless you're going in as some kind of professional specialist (doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc.) you only get to fill out a list of what your preferences are which they then immediately throw in the garbage can and stick you where they need you.
>>76143615
What's with the disdain?
>>76143297
Don't think about going an hero anon.
Divert that energy to something more positive like the european race war.
>>76144139
Truth, I got stuck as a crew chief. If you do decide to enlist, make sure you make your recruiter get you the job you want, it could take 9 months or over a year, happens often.
I'll be trying to get accepted to the Air Force Academy as enlisted, anyone know someone that did it?
Not in the service, but I am an IT contractor. I get to make my high salary because of the bloated value of each contract, operate largely outside of red tape faggotry, and go home every day -- usually early.
The only downside is no free money and GI bills and pension shit, but whatever.
>>76144086
I knew an MI guy that joined us in the Infantry. He was happier with us despite the IEDs, constant patrolling, and continuously getting shit on.
>>76144373
Helpful tip, when this thread dies down go to /k/ and look for the MEG (Military General) threads and ask questions. You'll get some more help there for sure
>>76144139
I was thinking about going to law school after I got out
>>76143346
Geospatial Intelligence seems interesting, but I only have like a 3.0 GPA though.
>>76143053
As a 21 year old who is constantly broke all the time, poor, living in his mothers attic, and is about to transfer schools (a long story) and lose 24 college credits out of the 54 I had in Electrical Engineering. I also haven't done a push up or run more than a block since highschool so completely out of shape.
Should I just join. I can't get a job and it fucking pisses me off. And although I am going back to school soon hopefully this college transfer is setting me back by 2 years, and is turning a 4-5 years into 6 with 100% smooth sailing.
>>76144460
Meant for
>>76144469
If you are intelligent, DON'T enlist. Only cornfed dumbfuck rednecks and minorities enlist.
Go the officer route or don't go at all.
If you're retarded, enlist.
You will know what i'm talking about if you go through with it.
>>76144426
I'm attached to an SF group, so I've felt that before. But in garrison...jesus christ.
>>76144537
Thanks m8, definitely will
>>76144469
>I was thinking about going to law school after I got out
Honestly, if you're wanting to do law school, do it now. A three-five year military pit stop won't do that much for you. At worst, it'll fuck your study skills (going back to school is hard as fuck, don't let anyone tell you any different -- taking a few years of not using a skill *will* erode that skill, your vocabulary will shrink, you'll read slower, you'll think slower).
The only way I might almost tell you to go ahead with the military is if you literally cannot figure out some other way to afford school and can't get loans.
>>76144526
Go visit a recruiter and tell him/her your intentions to join and that you're working on getting in shape. They'll give you the physical requirements you need to join. Pick yourself a job in the AF that will translate into the civilian sector, just in case you decide to get out.
>t. Chair Force fucking off at work
Yeah in the military you are basically a servant to the state.
Never forget what Henry Kissinger said.
>>76144526
FINISH. FUCKING. SCHOOL.
I don't give a damn what kind of shit you have to debase yourself to do, but finish school.
For the love of god trust me on this.
As for the credits, go and sit down with the department head at the school you're transferring to and try to work something out.
>>76144105
One of my old instructors told me you could avoid most of that by staying E-6 or O-3.
If you lack ambition, and are willing to suck a little dick in the form of constantly moving around, etc., the armed services might be alright for you.
>get undergrad degree
>get graduate degree if you REALLY like debt
>join as an officer
>10 years in, loans 100% paid off
>20 years in, retire
>You're only like 40, have guaranteed income for life and most likely a free Top Secret clearance, and are pmuch guaranteed a like GS-14 civil service job for another 20+ years (if you dont want a ridiculously high paying TS-cleared contractor job private sector)
>>76144555
Eh, enlisting is right for the guys who prefer actually doing shit. Granted a lot of the shit you do is pointless, but it's not the mountains of paperwork and reports that officers have to do.
It's also a pathway to the best fuck-off rank in all of the military: Warrant Officer.
Just got out of AIT for 12b. Im already regretting my decision to join. Dont do it op. Basic was a joke imo
>>76142716
Did you shoot any muslims?
>>76144925
forgot to point out, the implication of all that is this in both DoD and civil service jobs, you don't have to think, cause people above you will tell you what to do, AND you wont be doing much real work anyway.. just dont ever expect to be fulfilled by the job
>>76144526
Yes, do it. At BMT they will make you work out every day, and the requirements are very easy. If you get electrical systems 3e0x1, you will get college credits from your technical training towards your degree, you can also clep tests for insta credits. You'll also get experience and make connections in the field. Starting out you get like 1000-1200$ a month spending money, your meals and housing and utilities are all paid for.
>>76144469
GPA doesn't mean anything, what qualifies you for a job is your ASVAB score, your recruiter will have you take it when you talk to him. Cyber transport and cyber systems ops are pretty interesting too.
Do marines or army accept GED? Wha if i have a high ASVAB score, would they let me join?
>>76145541
They both accept mentally retarded people all the time
You'll be fine
>>76141320
Yes, but only under a pic related gov
>>76145636
oh, and coast guard or chairforce
GSM Navy, don't do it it sucks senpai. Join the army instead or the cushy airforce weenies
>>76145541
The minimum ASVAB for the army is 30, which is basically equivalent of a 90 IQ.
>>76145541
I had issues getting in with a GED, you'll have to see how it works out for you
>>76144845
I wanted to but this situation set me back completely
>Short version
>Was doing great in school
>Out of the blue school says I owe them 4000$
>Bureaucracy, finger pointing and office run around all during midterms and finals week
>Fucks up my entire semester and get D's in everything
>Academic probation
>Now have to pay out of pocket and must pass one semester to get financial aid again
>Pass that class but owe them 2000$ now
>Took this semester off to work and pay them off
>Pay them off only to find out I was no longer a student after one semester and had to reapply to that school
>They were about to let me back in but I had to go to this "special sit down" with administration
>"Realize you may not get financial aid and that you are taking a full course load. If you fail you will be academically dismissed"
My GPA went down even more and I was considered continued probation even though I was taking no classes. And then I did some research on what academic dismissal was.
Any article you read is like someone just sent an obituary to your parents as a forever screw up. With a dismissal I wouldn't be accepted to any school for at least a decade maybe more, Mark of death.
I noped it the fuck out and was looking to transfer to other schools, but sadly all schools only accept 30 credits (If not I would be in and out in under a semester)
>>76144821
My thing is should I work it out and get a associate degree atleast. I heard if you have a 2 year you get bumped to staff Sargent and with 45+ credits I get bumped to E-2
>>76145091
I also will start getting loads of dosh because I rarely go out and would only have to stop myself from buying loads of stupid shit
>3e0x1
This sounds a bit like an electrician
>>76143879
Prepare to spend most of your day guarding a gate.
>>76145541
Peacetime military (not actually at peace, but structured like it is)...you'll have a hard time, but if you've really got a hardon for it, then just keep bugging the shit out of people. Literally everything in the military is waiverable, but part of that is finding someone willing to do the waiver.
>>76145541
ASVAB is basically just low level high school shit. If you have a GED it shouldn't be difficult to do well on it.
>>76144893
This is true for the most part.
Avoid the staff (HQ) jobs and stay at the unit level.
Get a small unit command adn keep it for as long as you can.
However, in today's shit environment you can be the most absolute color blind commander and one basketball american can (and will) fuck your life up with a " dat co-mander bein racist on me."
Not worth it.
>>76146026
Tbh why waste more time and money on an associate's degree when you can go to school for free and get the same degree or higher, while getting paid and your own place to live?
>I heard if you have a 2 year you get bumped to staff Sargent
Nope. SSgt isn't given away, you test for it.
>>76141320
Are you /fit/?
Try for SOF, it looks good even if you drop out.
Are you smart?
Navy or Air force. You're treated like kings if you get a Crypto or intel job.
>>76145060
It's not about killing people anon. It's about safety, treating women with respect and worshiping Minorties.
The modern military is a former shell of what it used to be. It was a warrior culture, now it's just a bunch of faggots, welfare queens, and the lowest scum of the fucking earth. I'm still going in regardless though.
>>76146026
a full bach will only get you to e-4.
As for the rest, eh, I still say, fucking find a way to finish school.
Outside of that, if you do end up doing the military thing, Navy, Air Force, or Coastie are your best choices, but realize if you finish your degree while in, it'll usually just be online shit.
If they're (the school where you get to keep your credits) going to let you back in, that's seriously your best bet even if you do have to pay out of pocket.
>>76141320
Ex-Navy. Submarine force. None of you will ever do what I did. I win.
>>76146739
You will, at most, graduate BMT as an A1C, SrA is a time in grade promotion.
>>76146838
Ah, Army you at least used to, be able to start of as a specialist if you came in with a bach.
>>76146838
Hey, do you know about the LEAD program at all?
Hoping to apply after being enlisted for a couple years
>>76146327
not at all, but i guess I have 4 years to work on it
>tfw 5'10 130 pounds
>>76147039
No I don't. I remember getting an email from supervision about applying a few months ago but I'm getting out so I deleted it.
US Army air defense artillery, to many wannabe infantry types and shammers
Im a Warrant Officer (131A - Targeting Technician) in the US Army, currently in Afghanistan. It's pretty fucking great actually. I plan, control and coordinate all of the fire support assets in my area of operations... artillery, mortars, rotary wing attack and fixed wing aviation and rockets/missiles. I also deal with non lethal effects such as electronic warfare, psyops, military deception, civil military operations, etc. I study and analyze the enemy and the battlefield and determine the best asset to use the achieve the desire effect. A few days ago we had eyes on an insurgent safehouse thst had been used to stage attacks on Afghan National Army soldiers, so I put a 500lb bomb on it and blew it the fuck up. Got a fist bump from my commanding general.
>>76147235
Alright worth a shot, thanks bro.
Also, do you have any tips for what to put down on the PDS dream sheet? I want to get stationed in Europe so bad, trying to think of ways to make it happen
>>76147380
All I can say is to match your preferences to bases that are low on manning. That's how I ended up in Nippon.
>>76143879
Hope you like bilge diving and having no real options when you get out
Back out and get at least a tech rate
>>76146838
You stationed in Japan?
>>76141320
I am a member of the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service.
>>76145541
Just get 15 community college units.
>>76147500
Yes, hence the flag
>>76143782
>coast guard
>can claim vet status
What the fuck kind of coast guard do you have over there
>>76147486
Cool beans. I'll try to put down CONUS bases with high manning then.
>>76147622
Welp, looks like my ID changed. Thanks SoftBank you piece of shit.
>>76141611
>PENCIL-PUSHING AIRFORCE
>>76146782
If you weren't an a ganger you don't count
Fucking shower tech talking shit like his job is hard
>>76144825
What did he say?
>>76147633
Some of them fight drug traffickers.
I'm at the beginning stages of putting together a Marine Corps OCS app. My other options are law school/grad programs but I'd have to wait longer to begin those. Anyone have experience with USMC or USMC OCS who can tell me what it's like?
>>76147633
For most all of my life (34 years old) Coasties have seen more action than the Air Force and Navy combined.
Our boys run a shitton of drug interdiction stuff.
>>76147810
>>76147768
Ah fair enough
>>76147805
You'll never be promoted.
Seriously, jarheads and zoomies have the slowest promotion rates. Navy and Army are where it's at if you want to move up at anything approaching a decent rate.
>>76147316
>rare flag
You're in a hostile environment, in charge of millions of dollars worth of equipment, in charge of soldiers, sending rounds down range, and you browse /pol/ on fucking 4chan during all of this.
I wish my deployment was as fun filled as yours.
>>76147316
Only attacking ANA? Those inbred, doped up child rapists deserve to die. I mean i get if they were hitting americans yeah bomb them but don't spend our firepower for the worthless degenerate sandniggers we propped up like a globalist cuck
>>76147622
Sorry im autistic
>>76146289
desu my entire family has always been against it. I was going to join after high school with all my friends (Most ended up MP, but then again they are rolling in dosh even the potheads). Family convinced me that going in as an officer was much better.
I am sure I heard if you have a certain amount of credits atleast 45+ you get bumped to E-2 or even a 2 year degree is >>76146838
>>76146739
>a full bach will only get you to e-4
With a 4 year won't you become an officer?
>If they're (the school where you get to keep your credits) going to let you back in
My friend that school let me back in. But if I failed any classes I would have been academically dismissed something even the military will ask about. No other schools would accept me and basically not be able to attend any schools.
At least with this transfer I can reset my GPA, get financial aid and not worry about getting academically dismissed, which trust me is no joke.
I'm not sure why anyone would want to join obama's peacetime military. It's turning into a clusterfuck social experiment
>>76146782
I dunno, I'm getting pretty good at the pst and am thinking of going NSW. What makes you such a hotshot?
>>76142083
Buts thats the thing I bet youve called heaps of airforce people POGs too. Airforce is a retirement branch for ex grunts whos backs and knees are too fucked to keep pack marching and are sick of being treated like shit by 47yo cunts.
ITT - milfags fall for data mining thread
>>76148067
>desu my entire family has always been against it.
Fuck em, you're responsible for your own life.
>I am sure I heard if you have a certain amount of credits atleast 45+ you get bumped to E-2 or even a 2 year degree is
A1C is E-3, which is possible
>With a 4 year won't you become an officer?
Only if you apply and get accepted to OTS.
>inb4 I changed IDs again
This phone service resets a lot
If you're one of those guys who hates diversity and shit, DO NOT join the military.
The military is all about diversity now. Honestly, the bureaucracy and paperwork was bad enough, but now it just feels like the Armed Forces are being used to push some kind of political agenda.
>>76148067
>With a 4 year won't you become an officer?
We were talking about enlisted. You can do the officer route too, but e-4 is the highest enlisted rank you can get to through prior education.
>if I failed
Don't fail. Seriously. you're talking about throwing away around three semesters of overload because you're scared. Shit, change your major to something easier like mech-e and knock that shit out.
>>76143171
Whats wrong with hairgel? Not all of us want to look like dipshits. Im Army and I style my hair everyday. Although I dont use gel, mines fairly thick and grows the way I want it too.
>>76141320
Artillery, currently in training but soon too finish and post to a unit.
Depends what you think youre made of. If youve got a college education Ide honestly join the FBI or something. Their SWAT and teams and HRT are pretty badass. The HRT deploy overseas and do all sorts of spooky shit. The Army can be fun at times and it can also mountains and mountains of shit. Like for example my job is typically marching up the side of a feature all day with 50-60kgs of radio and batteries, set up OP, call in fire mission then pack up and march to another feature. Do that for 6 weeks without a shower and aswell as piquet.
>>76148254
Air Force basically never accepts prior service from any other service homie.
>>76144526
>I also haven't done a push up or run more than a block since highschool so completely out of shape.
Get yourself in shape before joining the military in general. If you're like me, chances are you might strain a part of your body, or not be able to get in shape fast enough for the PT test.
You'll just end up in Med Hold for Get Fit, and you don't want that. If you're serious about the military, do yourself a favor and make sure you're in shape before signing up.
>>76148538
Yes they do
I work with a prior Army guy
>>76148360
>now
It's been that way since 03 and probably prior. Although we had more don't kill yourself classes than don't rape each other classes than what they do now from what I hear.
>>76148498
255 life
>>76148622
>basically never
>>76147952
I'm on my 5th deployment. My first one in 2003 I was literally sleeping in the desert for 30 days straight in eastern Afghanistan. Nobody is living outside the wire anymore.
>>76147968
Shut up idiot. We are now in Operation Resolute Support. The mission is to train / advise / assist the Afghan National Defense Security Force, including all branches of the police. We are here to help them become a better fighting force so they don't collapse in on themselves like the Iraq army did. To leave them now when they are barely holding their own would be a disgrace.
>>76148254
I've never called AF guys anything but intelligent. I wish I'd been smart enough to go AF when I joined, they get substandard living allowances for staying in my barracks.
>>76148963
>afghan army
>literally the most inbred and retarded people in the middle east
>thinks they actually have a chance of standing up on their own
>>76148360
Part of my interest in joining the Marines was because I was thinking it might be fun doing manly shit with other men, but I keep feeling like women are sneaking their way in there from the looks of things, which makes no sense to me.
>>76147950
Well great. I'm supposed to make a sort of tentative, non-binding decision whether to move forward or not this Tuesday. I don't really want to join the Navy because I have a lot of family members who were/are in the Navy and as a whole it seems less manly and softer than the Marines. (My Dad did USMC as enlisted and Navy as an officer.)
>>76141320
Fucked up my spring semester, now I have to join the Navy because I can't pay for another year of school.
On the plus side since I scored in the 98th percentile on the ASVAB I'll likely get in as an E3 to become a nuke tech.
The big wars are pretty much over with. The Army is cutting back, going into a training phase. If you're lucky you might get to deploy to one of the proxy wars.
You missed your opportunity to shoot up a village in Iraq or Afghanistan. I would wait until the next big war before you enlist. Unless you like pretending like you're doing something for 3 years while you contemplate suicide.
Which branch of the military gives the least fucks about prior drug use?
>>76149276
Army or Marines
>>76149186
I've heard nothing good about the nuclear program dude. My recruiter was pushing Nuke so hard but my buddy at prototype said to go Air Force
>>76149276
You'll need a waver if you got arrested for drug use. Otherwise, it didn't happen and I wouldn't admit shit.
>>76149362
You stationed in Okinawa?
>>76141320
>america declares war on some random ragheads
>supply for weapons increase
>"""someone""" supplies that demand
>"""someone""" profits off of this
Do you really want to willingly be a profit-machine for the Jews?
>>76149386
>I've heard nothing good about the nuclear program dude
I get, on the spot, 125k as an enlistment offer. Then, it gets doubled to 250k if I re-enlist. I mean, yeah, that's a pretty huge indicator that it's going to be a pile of shit, but I really don't have anywhere else to go. I don't wanna be the fuckup with the high school diploma still stuck in his hometown.
>>76149568
125k enlistment bonus my ass dude. You're looking at like 11k.
It's going to suck ASS. But there actually are some good opportunities for commission. If you are okay with life sucking for the next 6 years for a 11k enlistment bonus and good pay in the outside world, go ahead
>>76141525
you dont understand how lucky you are
>>76149568
Note that part of the reason for the money is the need to keep up with the civilian market.
>>76149442
>wouldn't admit
Eh, that could turn out worse if/when they do a background check.
>>76149670
>If you are okay with life sucking for the next 6 years
Ain't got a choice.
>>76149686
Thank fuck for the free markets.
>>76146203
This is true.
Its a three way tie between niggers, women claiming rape, and that tumblrtard wanting rearrange their genitals to get bathroom privileges.
>co-manduh be rayciss
>I had a dream we had sex, obv it was rape
>the patriarchy is oppressing my pangenderflute rights
Any one of these will fuck a CO in a heartbeat.
All the good officers got the fuck out, all the suck ass dipshits still hang around, and the current crop of LT's are limp wristed faggots.
I sincerely hope to god Trump becomes president.
>I hope he fires everyone with a star at the pentagon, because they're fucking worthless.
>i hope he shitcans 70% of civilian GS mil jobs
>I hope mobilizes the military to put down the BLM protesters.
>then segregates the military, makes 2 genders only, tells women to fuck off back to the corner/admin jobs, and makes the people with the biggest paper trails the next leaders.
>>76148708
Yup, fuggin shit.
How good is the PESA lol.
>>76149715
Then get a waver. They're going to work with you, getting you in is quite literally their job.
>>76149557
Honestly, unless you're running your own business you're a profit-machine for someone. As someone who's been super poor in the past, there's no honor or dignity in poverty. No one's going to pat you on the back for sticking to your guns and not working for the capitalist Jew machine as you live out of your car. Give me a fucking break.
>>76149557
It doesnt matter
>>76149787
If you're recruiter said you'd get 125k just for signing nuke I would have a serious talk with him and call him out next time, it sounds like a bold faced lie to me.
But you'll probably learn a lot in the training pipeline, and it can actually provide you lots of college credits.
Also look into the commissioning programs available to Nuke students.
If I was okay with being a ship for half the year I probably would have gone nuke myself
>>76141320
Don't even think about it, anon.
I served, and the Army, at least, was more concerned with implementing the democratic policy of adopting open faggotry and allowing bitches in front line units.
Fuck the military, they don't give a shit about winning, and they sure as fuck don't give a shit about you.
>>76148341
Well I could get this on /fit/ but, would you suggest trying to meet the minimum requirements of BMT before I join. Like take up jogging and start doing all the pushups and stuff.
Also if you know anything about the reaper drones operators. Is that a hard position to get into.
And lastly I'll probably be 22 when I join and the normal contract is like 4 years. Meaning I'll be the oldest dude out of a pack of 17-19 year olds. Thats a bad idea right
>>76148476
>Don't fail. Seriously. you're talking about throwing away around three semesters of overload because you're scared.
Its a huge gamble to take bro.
https://www.collegeparentcentral.com/2013/01/academically-dismissed-from-college-ten-steps-to-move-on/
This is like the stages of grief or accepting death. And even if I changed majors my gpa would be the same. And according to the school no matter what happens, even 50 years from now. If I return to the school i will return with the same gpa and be on academic dismissal.
So I might be throwing away 3 semesters, but running into classes like "advanced circuit analysis" while paying out of pocket and hoping I pass. Could be setting me up for not being accepted to any school again. Its a shit situation
>>76149557
I got to kill hundreds of people.
So I see it as a mutual exchange.
>>76149926
>If you're recruiter said you'd get 125k just for signing nuke I would have a serious talk with him and call him out next time, it sounds like a bold faced lie to me.
I'll do that, thanks for the heads up.
>But you'll probably learn a lot in the training pipeline, and it can actually provide you lots of college credits.
Also a nice bonus.
>Also look into the commissioning programs available to Nuke students.
I get absolute first priority for "Seaman-to-Admiral" whatever that means.
>>76149994
'They don't give a shit about you' is the first and most important thing to learn about the military. Everything is on you, even if it seems like it's not. Nobody has your back, nobody is going to help you succeed. If you do it, milk it for all it'seems worth because that's how the service will treat you.
>>76149926
>Was is DEP to be a Nuke
>Tfw stuck on a ship
>Tfw almost failed chemistry senior year
>TFW I'd be fucked
Gonna ship out by the end of the month to the Air National Guard for Cyber Transport Systems. $20,000 sign on+drill pay+gi-bill+gi-bill-kicker+network training+tuition payed
I'm just here for the benefits.
How much should I get in shape before I join? Like how many miles I can run and push ups in a row?
>>76150087
They'd pay for you to go to college at one of 13 (I think) schools and get a stem degree. You'd be making E-4 money each year at college on top of them covering tuition.
The only downside is when you graduate you have to become a Nuclear Officer, lol
If you want a shot at that program (easy for nukes apparently) then get a really good GPA at A school and Power school, and make sure your physical fitness is top notch
How many 35 series here?
>>76150000
>Meaning I'll be the oldest dude out of a pack of 17-19 year olds
No you won't. I outrank 30 year olds at 25 and went to BMT with 25-26 year olds.
As for the physical requirements, I would at least make contact with a recruiter and let him know your intentions. Recruiters like people who are motivated and won't waste their time.
>>76150087
Oh, your recruiter can't actually promise you anything.
It's the fucker you sit down and talk with at MEPS when you're doing your contract that has the power to make deals.
And if it's not in your contract, it never happened.
>>76150202
I've deployed enough.
>>76150280
Team November reporting in.
>>76150248
w e l f a r e q u e e n
>>76150278
I see. Thanks for the tips. Anything else that I should know before I take the plunge?
>>76150335
>It's the fucker you sit down and talk with at MEPS when you're doing your contract that has the power to make deals.
So, could I stonewall the MEPS guy into forking over the enlistment bonus? The Navy has been calling every other day begging me to join.
>>76150462
>So, could I stonewall the MEPS guy into forking over the enlistment bonus? The Navy has been calling every other day begging me to join.
Kinda. It's one of those deals where they only have x amount of leeway in what they can offer people for certain kinds of jobs based off of the wants and needs.
What you can and definitely should do is be willing to walk away and not sign, then wait a few months, go back and see what they can offer.
>>76144235
No An-Hero from me. I want to live to see the Mets win the World Series. So I'll be around for a while.
>>76150632
>What you can and definitely should do is be willing to walk away and not sign, then wait a few months, go back and see what they can offer.
Just like buying a car, heh.
>>76150462
Uh you could also apply for the Naval Academy during the pipeline if that appeals to you.
My buddy at prototype school says that the material they teach isn't particularly difficult, it's just that you're learning A LOT really fast. You also can't take textbooks to your dorm, because classified and what not, so you have to study at the school.
Also from what I read Submarines are a once in a life time opportunity and I would have jumped through hoops to do it
>>76149472
No, I'm in the mainland
>>76150708
One of my friends who was a nukie said the only classified bit was the actual reactor specs (this was a while back).
She also told me that the biggest bitch wasn't the math, but that you had to do the math exactly the way they wanted and within time limits.
>>76150708
>Uh you could also apply for the Naval Academy during the pipeline if that appeals to you.
Do I have good odds of making it?
>My buddy at prototype school says that the material they teach isn't particularly difficult, it's just that you're learning A LOT really fast
I can handle that, as long as it isn't really arcane and unexplained.
>Also from what I read Submarines are a once in a life time opportunity and I would have jumped through hoops to do it
I'd prefer subs to carriers tbqh.
>>76150888
>Do I have good odds of making it?
Depends, but if you can pull off strong SAT scores, good GPA in the pipeline, demonstrate leadership potential, and gain the trust of your command then yeah you have a better chance than most active duty sailors.
Nukes have really high acceptance rates to the Academy/NAPS
This thread is disheartening.
If I just want to work in a completely SJW-free, masculine industry where should I go? I felt like the military was the answer, but maybe it's not now.
>>76151193
Skip a step and go straight into the trades.
>>76151193
I would say oilfield, but oil sucks now.
Mainly any kind of heavy industry and most trades.
Welding can get you through a lot of doors.
>SJW-free, masculine
Also, quit being a pussy
>>76151120
Thanks m8
>>76151193
>If I just want to work in a completely SJW-free, masculine industry where should I go
pic related
Seriously though, I can't speak much for the military, but aerospace engineering is pretty bro-tier.
>>76142347
>>76142111
74D is bullshit supply-tier fuckery if you're in a non-chemical unit.
The highest of the high speed is (from what I understand) the National Guard Civil Support Teams. They have the good equipment and cool training. Or a BIDS unit.
t. frustrated 74D SPC
>>76141611
The best treated branch in the military. Best rooms, food, women. If I could go back I would've went chairforce instead of marines.
>>76143615
Amen.
>>76151521
Yeah this thread is making me a lot more confident about my decision
>>76151193
The FFL.
No women allowed.
Literally.
>>76151193
You can still get it here. The SJW shit is just shit. They make us do briefs and what not but it doesnt change the fact its a boy club. Most rank are white males. Women dont get real respect.
Any Aussies here?
I Had my assessment day early this year, all went smooth but in the end the officer just told me to go spend a year in the RFS, didn't say why and neither did the case manager.
Should I bother to reapply in March? If I wait and get declined again ill have to wait another year before I can go to uni (ANU doesn't do mid year entry)
>>76151323
That definitely an option for me, but I also don't want to be shat on by people for working an honest trades job.
>>76151332
I'm not a pussy. I'll tell people how it is if I have to, but you're also not going to win any hearts or minds arguing with those people. I would just rather work in an industry where I don't have to deal with any of that shit from the get go.
>>76151193
Be an aircraft maintainer
We're a bunch of degenerates who should have EO called on us daily. And my team actually has, because of a literal faggot who couldn't deal and got pushed out by getting paperwork constantly.
>>76151624
>13 creases per shirt
>whats a weekend?
>>76151193
Any job with manual palletizing. Usually weeds frail women and fags out pretty quick.
I'm in the naval reserves. It's pretty ok. There's lots of chicks so it's actually not SJW at all -- because most girls who'd join the military are out to prove shit, they don't demand to be coddled and actually do their jobs, often better than the guys.
I hear America is a quagmire of rape accusations and SJW realpolitik, though.
Maybe try joining and doing one of those commonwealth soldier exchange programs so you can kick it up in New Zealand or Australia for a little while instead of sticking in the US? Every time I go to the coast, I see at least a few guys in jumpsuits with kiwi patches or AUSTRALIA embroidered on their epaulets. I'm not sure if the US is on that program, but it might be worth asking someone who knows -- I've seen US navy people farting about a Canadian base before.
>>76151760
>I also don't want to be shat on by people for working an honest trades job.
>Trades
>Honest
also if you're too vain to be a plumber, you probably wouldn't like being in a state military very much.
>>76151912
>fags
what is masc4masc
>>76151760
>I whine when I disagree with people
Pussy
>>76141320
I was in the Army, but join the Air Force if possible. It looked like the chillest branch when I was on a joint base.
>>76151760
>I'm not a pussy, here's how I'm a pussy.
Seriously guy, you're being a pussy about this. That kind of stuff literally exists everywhere. Man up and deal with it. Don't be a pussy and hide from it.
>>76150287
I went to BMT with someone that was 38.
I think he was the oldest person I met during my entire time there.
>>76151930
Socially, being a plumber isn't the same as being a military officer in the U.S. I think plumbers are given a raw deal in terms of people's opinion of the trade, but people definitely regard military guys in higher regard where I come from than plumbers.
>>76151521
>Best women
That's not saying much.
>>76152091
>>76152119
Excuse me for not wanting to be in an industry where I'm surrounded by bulldykes and fragile woman who have been told since day one that they're strong. The military is no place for a woman, and the fact that they're sneaking in proves that there's something wrong.
>>76152119
Oh look, women post on /pol now.
>>76152771
HAHAHAHA. Oh god. You in the real world is going to be hilarious/pathetic.
>>76152878
Nah, not that and I don't agree with the vast majority of the bullshit, but thinking you can be a bitch and hide from it is being a pussy of the highest order.
>>76152878
Did you piss yourself little anon?
>>76152602
there is plenty of anti-military sentiment in the US and you can expect to be called a welfare queen a lot either way
especially if you're an officer, or worse --- a FILTHY POG
>>76151760
>i'm not a pussy, im just literally afraid of women
lol /r9k/ u so crazy
>>76153226
>Canadian flag.
Keep on keepin' on. Lol.
No but seriously I love Canada. They're a great feeder organization for US hockey teams.
>>76152963
>Woman Goes on /pol: The Post
>>76153936
seriously, if you're too vain to be a plumber or electrician, you're not going to like being in the military. not everyone is from /k/, and there's plenty of overt hatred for military members in the west in general, including the US
if anything, you'd be more respectable as a plumber or electrician or welder or whatever
>>76141320
7 years a medic. Im getting out and heading to kabul with academi in 3 months.
At least I dont have to lie to myself that Im a good guy. Ill be a money-grubbing mercenary and at least its the truth this time around.
>>76154283
I definitely don't have a problem with trades, but there is a hierarchy of them too in terms of how people perceive them.
People rank plumbers as lower because they think they deal with literal shit; which of course you wouldn't if you're doing plumbing for new structures, etc.
I've thought about doing carpentry/welding, but from a social standpoint I would get higher respect being a military officer, that's just how it is here.
>>76154813
>I definitely don't have a problem with trades,
you literally said you do in that you don't want to be seen as socially low for taking one
i am telling you that the military is just as low, if not lower, because of anti-military sentiment on top of it being a bit of a welfare queen trade
officers get similar disrespect from the public, but also disrespect from NCMs, who resent them for being paid better and getting to be higher up on org charts without doing a meaningfully more work or training
t. someone actually in a western state military
>>76155032
>i am telling you that the military is just as low, if not lower, because of anti-military sentiment on top of it being a bit of a welfare queen trade
It's not really that way in the U.S., or at least in Texas and all of the southern states I've been to. We have resect for out military.
>>76149806
>>I hope mobilizes the military to put down the BLM protesters.
I have bad news for you anon...you shoulda joined nasty girls for that
>>76155438
>i-its the south so literally no one will shame me for being in the military !! ;_;
also protip: military members are expected to move around and you might have to go somewhere else for training or deployment. and typically, near bases where there's a lot of trainees, people HATE the military.
>>76155554
It doesn't surprise me that your fellow countrymen hate your guts for serving your country, but it's not that bad here. Hell I live in shitlib central Portland and most people here have a friend or family member that is a vet so they keep any trash to themselves
>>76155814
is it your serious unironic belief that you are more likely to be shamed for being a tradesman than for being a military member
>>76155554
Most Army bases are in the south though. I was in the Army, and no one said shit to me.
