Disgusting filth
You spelled heretics wrong, you stupid hick cuck.
>>76133751
what is this from
>>76134771
Ya sorry dude I'm part of the hill people tribe
>>76135162
r/socialism annual poll
>>76133751
"I'm still developing the basics" probably encompasses two groups. The most ignorant and the most gifted.
>>76133751
>Disgusting filth
I myself am a nonreligious, i bet i share many of the values most christians do though. Then again, marxism no, anarchism no, liberation theology no, utopian no, I'm still developing basics no. If those are the only possible choices, your poll has some room for improvement
>>76133751
What's even the source of that?
>>76136213
r/socialism
>>76136289
The results shouldn't surprise anyone then.
>>76136289
What, they have like 2k 'people' responding to an annual poll?
I thought redshit was popular.
Well we are aware marxists are atheist.
But atheists aren't marxist, actually I'd say the marxists are less than a quarter of atheists
>>76136131
This poll came from a socialist subreddit. I'm just here to laugh at the results.
>>76136573
More atheists are leftists than Christians as a percentage of their groups.
>>76135254
>r/socialism annual poll
What an unbiased target group you got there.
>>76136751
Leftist and marxist is not the same thing
>>76137020
In most ways we care about they're effectively identical. If you want me to reword I will though - more atheists are marxists than Christians as a percentage of their groups.
>>76136923
I just wanted to show how Marxism and atheism goes hands in hand
>>76135254
>/r/Socialism
Are we supposed to be annoyed that you went to a socialist place and when you asked if they were socialist they said "yes"
>>76137309
see
>>76137236
Sidenote I did note create this poll. The subreddit did. I've already been banned from that place.
>>76137236
And I wanted you to know what a disingenuous faggot you are because you'd pick a biased poll like that.
>>76137177
I mean that is true since marxists are generally more atheist.
That doesn't really mattet since marxists are still a pretty small portion of all atheists
Besides it doesn't matter since atheism isn't an ideology, so atheists have nothing connecting them, unlike christains
>/r/socialism
>1.4% Muslim
and yet they'll still go around defending Islam
literally brain dead
>>76137614
If you would like to point me to poll that shows otherwise be my guest faggot. Check em
>>76138047
I put down Islam myself for the bantz.
>>76137720
Atheism necessitates a number of beliefs. You have to believe in some kind of non-creation based ontology - at least insofar as an intelligent creator is assumed - and you have incredible trouble philosophically trying to reject relativism.
Any label shares qualities with itself - otherwise it wouldn't be a label. All Christians share the quality of being Christian. All red objects share the quality of being red. All atheists share the quality of being atheist.
>>76138067
>if you don't agree with my biased poll you need to come up with your own that disproves my biased poll
Yeah, no. Faggots like you are the reason why the right has alienated so many atheists to begin with.
>>76138130
pls translate to human spek
>>76138130
Based on your first sentence, you are wrong.
The only thing being an atheist requires is not being a theist. It's a lack of belief, and implies nothing else
>>76138130
a lack of ideology is not an ideology
>>76133751
this
>>76138218
>why the right has alienated so many atheists
Jesus fuck atheism is the most alienated group to begin with regardless.
>inb4 the priesthood rising
>>76138296
>>76138343
All beliefs are positive beliefs. There's no such thing as a "lack of" belief.
You believe there is no God or gods. You can say "I don't believe there is a God or gods" but that's just rewording your sentence - it means exactly the same thing.
I believe x is the same as I don't believe y, where y is "not-x". Logically there's no distinction.
>>76138470
Think alienating them is a smart idea considering their growing numbers amongst our own people? The heaven you'll go to is going to look like a Brazilian Favela at this point and with the nationalist reawakening nobody'll bite that bait. Add that to the fact that Christians are one of the biggest shills for shitskins and shitskin immigration and you can see how there's no future for that cult.
And thank god for that.
reminder that Christianity was supposed to be socialist but based Catholics saved the free market
>>76139146
In no world is violently taking people's property Christian.
"Thou shalt not steal."
>>76138990
I'm not Christian. Abrahamic religions are below dirt and have fallen of the path of spiritualism. Additionally atheism is at much as fault for shitskin problems as modern Christianity
>>76133751
Atheism is the central pillar of all Marxist thought.
>>76139146
>lutheran
>>76138533
That isn't true at all you fucking mong
Look up agnosticism
>>76139235
>Additionally atheism is at much as fault for shitskin problems as modern Christianity
There's no pro-shitskin agenda inherent to atheism, that shit gets supplemented from something different, filling the void atheism leaves.
>>76138470
What are you talking about bro? They're intellectually superior to everyone
>>76139296
You mean "the belief that I don't know whether there is a God or gods"? That belief? It's basic logic you're dealing with.
>>76138130
>[Atheists] have incredible trouble philosophically trying to reject relativism
It's the other way around. People who accept relativism have trouble rejecting atheism.
>>76139458
It works both ways.
>>76139397
>>76139397
>Thomas Aquinas vs the Amazing Atheist.
Not too hard to see who wins.
>>76139436
It isn't a belief. You KNOW that you don't know. That's because that is one of the few things you can know. You know for certain what you know.
>>76133751
>>76139370
Well I think that Atheism weakens us as long as other strong religions are still around and further than that I feel that atheists often despise (christian) family values
>healthy normal family without any butches or transgenders involved
in general.
>>76139606
So you believe that you know you don't know.
Brilliant escape.
>>76139676
I'm not going to fucking argue with you over words you fucking retard.
Kill yourself
>>76139699
>Kill yourself
win
>>76139656
Family values aren't inherently Christian, and a big part why we're losing atheists to the left is them getting forced to accept the conflation of rational and healthy values with that sandnigger cult.
>>76139551
What part of atheism is incongruent with objectivism?
>>76139699
You're far too intelligent and witty to get so flustered over basic logic senpai. I will not be rused by your apparent anger - I know it's just a facade. You'll make a stellar argument any post now.
>>76139769
He should kill himself
He is like that child that asks why? over and over again, except he actually believes he is actually saying anything meaningful.
>>76139840
I'm not going to play your infinite logical regression game faggot, kill yourself
>>76136520
Wow, only like 6 people post in /n/? I thought 4chan was popular.
>>76139794
I get that, but at least accoding to my experience atheist also tend to be the people who want to destroy family values, idc if we resort to the germanic clan system but I sure as hell wont become part of the socialist atheist classless raceless mass
>>76139846
ikr but you also know kys is not an argument
>>76139606
>>76139840
Anon is correct. You can't really argue against a belief. And adding synonyms to your sentences just make you look like an ass and nothing of value to the discussion.
>>76139897
It's not infinite - you just completely fail to understand basic epistemological constrains on your claims. The only thing you can figure out completely a priori is "there are thoughts". Everything else functions out of assumptions and beliefs regarding those assumptions.
>>76140003
Trying to "argue" with someone whose mind is as developed as a 5 year old's is completely pointless and a waste of time
>>76140052
Advanced level shitposting: The thread
You can turn your American proxy anytime you want to nigel.
>>76137236
post a poll in r/atheism or whatever, i doubt you will see so many commies.
>>76139901
Now you're conflating atheists with marxists. Just because a huge chunk of marxists are atheists doesn't mean atheists are marxists. If that was the case, how would you explain Japan, the Czech Republic, Estonia?
Our problem is that we, on the right, failed to combat the spread of marxism amongst atheists in a constructive fashion and now it's coming back to bite us in the ass.
>>76140060
I get that but if you think so just don't respond anymore or politely decline to argue any further otherwise your opponet will see that you get to emotional about your little dispute and troll you which cant be won
>>76140052
Yes you are literally trying to bait me with an infinitely regressing argument. You refuse that you can know that you know something, so everything you say has zero meaning and you can not form and logical argument.
>>76140118
What are you on about?
Do you want to argue that
"I believe x"
is different than "I don't believe y", where y is not-x?
>>76140183
>we on the right
>atheist
There you go again
>>76140183
I am not a uber christian myself, more of a deist.
I know that there are atheists on our side out there the best example is Stefan Molyneux, the problem is people need something to believe in and I would prefer people believing in enlightened christendom instead in the state or islam.
Even if you dont believe you have to acknowledge that most of our culture is a mix of christianiy and racial/tribal traditions. Islam and marxist atheism is trying to destroy this fabric.
Idc what you believe desu you may believe what you want or believe nothign at all but I am having the big, demographic picture in mind , u know?
>>76140231
You *can't* know that you know something unless that something is a necessary, a prior truth. And "I know that I don't know there is a God/gods" is not an a priori necessary truth. You can be wrong about what you think you know/believe. In regards to what you think you know, if you think you know *ANYTHING* outside "there are thoughts" you're wrong. Unless you have some super special magical way of rejecting basic skepticism.
>>76139213
>bankers and jewish money changers don't steal
learn your own religion cuck
>>76140620
Sin is sin cocksucker. Doesn't matter who does it.
>>76140281
I don't believe =/= I don't know, I don't care
You can insert "I believe that" in any case
>I believe that I don't believe
>I believe that I don't know
>I believe that I don't care
>I believe that I'm posting on 4chan
but it's just semantics at that point and has nothing to do with dictionary-term atheism being a ideology
>>76140389
Spit it out if you want to say something.
>>76140458
>Idc what you believe desu you may believe what you want or believe nothign at all but I am having the big, demographic picture in mind , u know?
I do too - see >>76138990
With the current development there won't be a going back to Christianity, so what we have to do is combat Islam and marxists while not driving their main target group, non-religious people, into their hands.
We can't force a spiritualism on a group of people that's not ready for spiritualism. What we can do is keep that group of people away from more harmful shit until some sort of spiritualism arises naturally.
Best course of action would be to detach values and traditions from Christianity and try to keep them alive via traditionalism.
>>76140709
So if both socialists and capitalists sin you can use the >muh sin argument dumbfuck
>>76140813
You can not care. In that case it's "I believe I don't care and refuse to think about the question".
Definitions matter. Defining your terms is the essence of philosophical discussion. If you don't like it, don't even try pretending you're being intellectually honest or articulate. You're just shitposting because you feel like a fucking retard (which you might be).
>>76140986
Are you foreign? Or are you just that inarticulate naturally?
>>76140977
Tbh my christianity is positive christianity, it is pretty bigotted but a useful tool in building and keeping a society, so if I say Jesus was the first Aryan and he wants us to enslave africa I just assume that I am right, I will see on judgement day if I really was.
>>76141068
You dismissed socialism because stealing property is sin dipshit
I am so glad you are tripping so I can remember how fucking stupid you are
>>76141185
>You dismissed socialism because stealing property is sin dipshit
Yes I did. What does that have to do with
>So if both socialists and capitalists sin you can use the >muh sin argument dumbfuck
?
In what world is that a coherent response?
>>76133751
You forgot the cuck demographics OP.
>>76141326
Are you really so stupid that you can't realize "can" was a typo and supposed to be "can't"?
>>76141152
Why would you choose to live with cognitive dissonance like that? You know the Bible doesn't support that notion - nothing does.
>>76141185
>>76141405
>didn't already know Praceteom was dumb as fuck
Hello newfriend
>>76141463
I dont think it is, there is a race struggle if you believe it or not.
The other races noticed how degenerate we became through the mass psychosis of two world wars and are trying to eradicate the white race by simply breeding us out, making as fagots and transgender obsessed idiots, injecting feminism into our minds
>>76141405
In what world does me objecting to socialism on the grounds that under socialism theft takes place *necessarily* as *PART* of the system obligate me to object to capitalism just because theft *can* (but doesn't necessarily) happen?
You're telling me I can't say socialism is bad because it's stealing from people because under capitalism people can have their shit stolen. That's 100% Grade-A retard logic. Congrats. You've made the high-school-dropout list.
>>76141659
>there is a race struggle if you believe it or not.
I'm not denying that, I'm saying that there are better ways to solve that struggle than to make up stuff that goes against the basis of that stuff. Aryans are older than 2000 years, so Jesus couldn't have been the first one - and according to Matthew 1 it's pretty clear what he is: a descendant of David. A fucking kike.
We can do better, ESPECIALLY from a racial point of view.
>>76141810
Dude you dismissed socialism as not Christian because under socialism some people sin
You are a fucking idiot if you think you cannot use the exact same logic to dismiss capitalism as not Christian
filtered so don't bother replying
>>76135254
>r/socialism
oh god
you had me worried for a second
>>76142008
thats true, but do you think the atheist masses who are not ready for christianity are ready for racial himmleresque occultism?
But, anyway, we should focus on destroying the current system first
>>76142296
The masses certainly would be more open to scientific racialism than going full retard with Jesus being the first aryan.
Just look at how distrustful people are getting of foreigners now, that's where we need to tap into.
>>76142118
>Dude you dismissed socialism as not Christian because under socialism some people sin
???
L i t e r a l l y
R e t a r d e d
Enjoy being a brainless high school dropout with the reading comprehension and writing ability of a middleschooler for the rest of your shitty poverty-ridden life~
>>76133751
>bu-bu-communists never went after the religions
These niggers.
>>76142471
what bothers me is that most rightwing parties at least in our countries are still pretending to love jews, I know they have to because antisemitism is still political suicide, but it hurts man..it hurts
>>76142118
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>>76142710
They're certainly not using the jews the way they should be using them - creating a schism between the nationalist ones and the globalist ones. They could use a little divide and conquer after all the centuries where they did it themselves.
marxism is a temporary problem. its an ideology that is completely suicidal because it destroys everything that is required to sustain a society in the long term (marriage/children/family). radical leftist women end up as genetic dead-ends with no children, same goes for the men. so who cares?
>>76143025
Interesting thought.
The jew thing really bothers me since most socialist communist perv assholes are jews but there are also some decent ones, I wish it was not that bad to distinguish them from the bad ones and that they would give up their jewishness and become aryanized over generations so we wont have that unpleasant topic anymore.
Graf Anton von Arco auf Valley for example, good shot
>>76142494
this dumbass made as fuck y'all
>>76143581
>fukn rekt lamo
>>76143238
I think in the current climate we'd be best served when playing whack-a-mole with the kikes. Whenever they rear their marxist head, get that head, drop that it was a Jew, have the people connect the dots for themselves.
By dividing them properly you just get them to show their hand more frequently.
Why do they support moslem immigration if moslems are highly antisemitic? Jews vs moslems
Who are the ones supporting it (the rich ones that can always move somewhere else) and why is it detrimental to other ones (poorer ones that can't)? Rich Jews vs poor Jews
etc.
The more divided the Jews become the easier it should be to tackle other endeavours. Revisionist Jews vs holohoax jews for example. Put some pressure on them, "if we can research this fully we can finally get rid of the holocaust deniars" - then you have another divide between the ones that agree with that reasoning and the ones that don't.
Either they engage in getting split or they become a more unified entity with odd interests in the public eye - either way, they lose.
>>76144093
That was some nice Seyß-Inquart expertise, I will save this to elaborate further on that.
Thanks
