So how I had a conversation with a liberal/socialist. I told him I liked Trump's tax plan of 0% until 35k or 0% until 50k if you're married because of "velocity of money" and I said because "poor people spend 110% of their wealth, as rich people spend 15%" and he flipped out on me and swore it was ONLY because they didn't HAVE a lot of money. I told him this was incorrect and it was not because of what they have but instead a lack of education and moral and he called me a monster. Was he retarded or did I get btfo?
He outright denied the 110% thing.
I was flustered and didnt say obvious things like "the vast majority of americans are in debt", and "lottery winners notoriously lose all of their money".
He was also EXTREMELY angry that I called them "poor people".
He is a huge anime and D&D fan and likely visits the dirty gook parts of this website. Should I entirely discard his opinion because of that? I mean to me he didn't have much of an opinion but he is a important co-worker and I nearly had an aneurysm hearing his Bernie bable.
Bump you guys are lazy bitches answer a real question for once in your pathetic lives
Why would he be against tax cuts for poor if hes socialist? Or does he favor gibsmedats, cause that shit doesnt work.
>>76079905
/a/nime-watching fa/tg/uy here. He's a faggot. Don't worry about it.
>>76079118
why didn't you say that plebs are not and will never be able to manage wealth?
>>76079905
Let me tell you about a place /d/ude.
>>76079118
>he flipped out
He's just another liberal cry baby. Throws a fit when confronted with an opinion he doesnt like. Honestly, I wouldnt waste time on him. Liberals have been playing the outrage card for years. They think opinions aren't valid if theh are offensive to someone in some way. Luckily for us, 2016 seems to be the year that liberals lose thier high ground. Since the 60s they have dominated the window of discourse and dictated what opinions are allowed. Now that SJWs are finally exposing the left for what they are, we are experiencing a huge swing of society's pendulum back to the right.
If I were you, next time Id call him out for being an indignant child
>>76079118
Poor people spend 110% of their income not because they are incapable of being frugal, but because bills are not proportional and poor people more commonly have to deal with things like late fees and unexpected money sinks (like when your junker car breaks down) because they live paycheck to paycheck where unexpected expenses will completely cripple them and put them into debilitating debt.
When you're poor, you pay more.
>>76080619
I doubt tax cuts for the low earners is the issue but that the higher earners would also be getting cuts
>>76081430
You can survive on 800, fuck even 400 maybe less if you understand that standards of living are completely arbitrary. No, poor people can't grasp that.
>>76079118
Tell him this, if he denies tax cuts for the poor, then he's worser then Hitler.
>>76081678
We were specifically talking about the poor folks.
>>76081430
you forgot inflation, less favourable loan interest rates etc.
In my opinion being poor is a state of mind. A personality. A rich person is very likely better at living on 500 per month than a poor person is.
>>76079118
When progressives can't argue on fact, they jump to name calling. The names they call people include racist, intolerant, bigot, etc.
>>76079118
Eh, I don't see the problem. It's not that you were agitating against poor people, isn't the tax plan beneficial for low income groups? Hate people like that, they care more about the tone of the converstation than the results.
>>76081430
>Poor
>car breaks down
Is the car a Ferrari too?
You are a retard.
>>76082016
>JCole
kek, when do you drop your new album?
>>76081413
>Throws a fit when confronted with an opinion he doesnt like.
he says as he posts another thread in his safe space where everyone agrees with him that libruls are ruining society
LEL
>>76079118
93% of people who go to college, go to church every sunday, and wait to have kids til they are married do not livein poverty.
You were right he was btfo.
>>76083737
Hey buttercake feel free to explain how I was wrong
>>76084025
I was just pointing out the irony of one of the statements in your post, feel free to drink a glass of bleach faggot.
>>76082452
even though we dont have government subsidized dildo powered mopeds, cars are still both cheap and necessary enough that you can have one and still be broke
>>76084221
If you own a car you aren't poor.
>>76080619
The current liberal playbook is to tax the lower and middle class into oblivion, but then give them handouts locking in their vote forever. Oh yeah, and evicting them whenever muhammed wants their subsidized housing.
I will just leave this here
>>76084163
>not an argument
also
>was asking for correction of my opinions
>was not saying "Hurr i am so raging right now i cant believe this tard said this haha hes btfo"
People like you should stay in Canada.
>>76079118
All of the people in your pic are non-white and you sound like a fedora.
>>76084593
BREAKING NEWS: Chink inhuman.
>>76084593
>all those assumptions taken as fact
Conservative logic 101
>>76084593
is this a true quote... because dammmnnn
>>76084597
I don't want to take the time to criticize your opinions. I'm not your professor faggot.
You're right, it's not an argument. I was just laughing at your faggotry and making fun of the irony in your post. And you're so upset because someone is making fun of you on the internet, triggered as fuck
>>76084627
>>76084627
Yeah they're from peru of course they arent white
Why do you think I sound like a fedora
This co-worker and I are firefighters. Both of us are completely up to par in the "normie" world.
My wife is hot.
>>76084891
Not upset pal. I wouldn't get upset about anything a Canadian says, honestly I discard Canadian opinions inmediately.
I just stated that you have poor reading comprehension and that it isn't actually irony.
Also, 4/10, about as good as a Canadian can do.
>>76084887
Jack Ma don't take no shit
>>76084828
Jack was a poor peasant boy who created the most successful trade company in China. What the fuck do you know about poverty you spoiled American piece of shit.
>>76084711
What was inhuman about this? Poor people are stupid, and stupider with money. They wait for handouts and answers without working for shit. Liberal bitch.
>>76081921
>>76081921
>>76081921
Same fagging this
Read it assholes
>>76085084
>Jack was a poor peasant boy who created the most successful trade company in China
So? Do you think every poor peasant boy can get that lucky if they just try hard enough and pull up those bootstraps? Some people will work hard, maybe even harder than him, all of their lives and will never reach the same level of success.
Book of Ecclesiastes, Chapter 9, Verse 11:
"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to the intelligent, nor yet favor to men of knowledge; but time and chance happeneth to them all."
>>76079118
Quick tip
Say that sanders tax plan is actually trumps tax plan and fight it, then reveal the switcheroo
Instsnt trump voters>>76079118
>>76085145
they get away with this too because there is always another "gimmie dat" around the corner.
Poor people need help and should be helped but there has to be a limit, maybe not having more then one child or even having to have a job after two years or so?
>>76085596
Tell them that. Were now 2 sides of the same shekel.
who's the qt?
I have no sympathy for most poor people. When I was young, I worked shit tier min wage jobs just like everyone else. But somehow I ended up saving money in the bank, whereas my peers always had empty bank accounts.
How can this be? Because they didnt know how to fucking save money. They constantly went to restaurants and spent money on vacations and new niggertech. They were fucjing frivolous with their money
>>76079118
>Was he retarded or did I get btfo?
He's retarded. From the low level class to the middle class, most of them spend more than they take in. But they're victims of the Jew. They're encouraged to take in loans that they may not be able to repay--the goal is to keep them paying just the interest for as long as possible, making them slaves to debt. But the economy crashed and the Jew's scheme of enslaving people that way also collapsed.
After the crash, people were brought back to their senses and started being sensible again. But for some, the change from lavish to "austerity" is a hard one. It doesn't help that Obama didn't fully restore the economy. He (and the elites) took full-time jobs and turned them into part-time jobs--Americans may be employed, but they're underemployed (don't make enough money) and financially insecure. That's the new Juden trick.
Even though the economy has somewhat recovered, companies are still exploiting the part-time scam to pay people less so that their investors/owners (most of whom are Jews) can rake in more profit. That scam helped transfer the wealth of the middle class to the 1%.
So you have Americans with less buying power, shit not going down so that even part-time jobs are livable, and (some) Americans unable to change spending habits because of being conditioned by long periods of prosperity. This is one of the reasons why there's an increase of people supporting socialism--the other part is the degenerate millennials who just want something for nothing, like fucking parasites.
The paradigm has changed and they should try to adapt, instead of pinning their hopes on socialism that (time and again) has failed. Unless the Jews have a change of heart (unlikely), or they've been driven out or scared into setting things right, the age of prosperity will never come back. This is the new normal. Adapt or be broken.
