Of course it came from London.
Can we just nuke the capital? It's the only way we can be saved.
how is that first point even a refutation?
Obama armed ISIS so logically they should all come to Europe? How does that make sense?
>>76072045
And that EU point. The EU's GDP has been stagnant for years on end.
And the EU laws. Apparently the UK can't pass good laws themselves?
These are the shittiest "points" I've ever seen
>youth vote
guarantee it's some upper middle class 18 year old woman on a gender studies course who's never worked a day in her life, comes from a 95% white area and probably has her parents paying for uni as well
>EU is the largest economy in the world
that doesn't mean it can't diminish trade power, sweetheart
>>76072243
>London
>White
They are not in any way refutations though. It's tragic. These people can't even use real arguments but are lapping this shit up in my FB feed.
>>76072321
Is it getting a lot of traction or nah?
Going to London today. For a concert.
Guess I'm gonna be blown up.
Better fucking not. Got a few beers I'm yet to drink
>>76072045
I hope the UK votes to leave and it causes a crises that results in genuine reform of the EU. Good luck UK.
>>76072366
Yes it is...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/angry-commuter-alters-brexit-poster-111900034.html
Even fucking Reddit is disagreeing with it
Most of our cities need to be nuked.
>>76072226
The EUs GDP isnt stagnant. Smaller less developed economies are doing very well by it. The problem is that the fully developed economies are still struggling to grow despite everything.
Hence Germany opting for open borders. Same shit is happening on your border with Mexico.
>>76072598
>Smaller less developed economies are doing very well by it.
By that you mean they travel to developed countries to take local jobs for cheap, often below minimum wage and under the table, then send have the money back to their country in remittances?
I think something like 25% of Mexico's GDP is generated that way
>>76072598
EU share of world output has been falling every year. 30% in 1980 to 17% now
>>76072598
I am sure that France and Germany intend to make their money lending to the smaller economies and using the EU to make sure they get their money back.
Provided the smaller developing economies invest wisely its a win/win. Lol at Greece.
>>76072598
>The EUs GDP isnt stagnant
>smaller less developed countries are doing very well
kek
You realize who those two propositions don't actually contradict right? The EU is the "entire region" and the "entire region" as a whole is stagnant.
And yes under 2% growth is stagnant especially is a debt soaked low wage economy.
>Hence Germany opting for open borders. Same shit is happening on your border with Mexico.
>>76072598
>>Hence Germany opting for open borders. Same shit is happening on your border with Mexico.
All that does is lower wages you dumb fuck
That doesn't "grow the GDP" at all unless you count the increase in housing costs.
>>76072838
I realize that Ireland's economy is quite small and populated with only 4.5 million people but on our local level the EU has been a massive success.
>>76072045
>define "failed"
Lmfao. You fucking bongs truly are fucked.
>>76072891
Of course but I am much more concerned with Irelands economic growth than say France. Our GDP is growing by 7% a year.
Not too shabby. We will ride this tiger till it stops paying out.
>>76073016
>>76072934
>Ireland
>white
>>76072934
you aren't full of rapefugees or austerity
yet
Look at the Baltics where half the country has to move to the UK just to afford the austerity programs if you want to see how the EU works out in the end.
>>76073082
That is some weak bait.
>>76072045
>open borders do not work
>hurr i took a trip to france so they do
what an idiot
I've seen dozens of posts on /pol/ like OPs pic and they didn't get a single reply. But because someone wrote this down on paper it deserves a thread with 20+ replies and 10+ posters.
Why?
>>76072045
This triggers me
Honestly, I'm kind of on the fence about Brexit, but people pulling the "if you vote out you're a racist idiot horrible person" makes me want to smash dat out button vigour. Then set up my Nigel/Boris shrine, complete with MAGA hat and burning 'refugees welcome' sign.
Fuck lefties. They make their side totally insufferable and unvoteable.
>>76072045
>The way europhobic is underlined
I never really had an opinion on credit before because it's not my country, but now I hope they vote to leave because the remain crowd are clearly colossal cucks that need a good helicopter ride.
>>76073209
Ireland has already had that phase. Those people come home with money. You are right that rapefugees are in the future. It will depend on how long it takes for prosperity to damage our fertility and how long it takes for our economy to develop.
Right now we are experiencing mass immigration from Islamic strongholds like Poland, the UK and western Europe. Guess they like working in American corporate headquarters.
>>76073209
Ireland ignored the EU and the IMF's austerity demands, it's the only reason things are going well
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/24/irelands-recovery-has-nothing-to-do-with-austerity-eu-imf-elections-fianna-fail/
The longer you have in the EU the more time they have to convince you to adopt austerity and destroy your country.
It's what they've done in France, Spain, Italy, and the Baltics and will do to you if you stay in the EU.
>>76073380
meant for
>>76073373
>>76073369
Brexit, not credit. Autocorrect is clearly a Jewish plot.
>>76072045
>the problems in the middle east are out of control
Non sequitur. Problems in the middle east aren't a valid reason for open immigration, nor is poverty in Africa.
>open borders
Visa free regimes are a thing and exist for every country on the planet. The US manages to have free access to any EU country and surprise surprise, doesn't have to have open borders with said countries.
>eu has failed
See PIIGS + democratic conditions in Brussels, + the growth rates of non-EU European countries vs. European countries. EU growth is extremely stagnant.
>trade power
The EU is terrible at trading. Enjoy your innumerable tariffs and trade barriers.
>non-democratic
If even 1% of your laws are made by people you didn't elect and are put upon a people who didn't consent to them, that's reason enough to leave. I can't believe this bitch doesn't realize that the EU isn't ever going to roll its powers back, it's going to continue ratcheting them forward. If it's 12% now (extremely low figure), it'll be 20% in a decade, 35% in 20 years, etc.
The youth are retarded. The draft should be scrapped so there's no more reason for universal suffrage and the voting age should be raised to 30, or given earlier if you own property/operate a business with a revenue of 50,000+ GBP.
>>76073380
>Austerity
Taxes went up and government spending went down. This is not up for debate.
The reason it went so well here is that we are a homogeneous nation of middle class people (by Ireland's standards) so we all went with it.
We didnt have mass protest like in Greece. Investor confidence and the confidence of lenders stayed strong and they started throwing money at us again very quickly.
>>76072045
>Is it?
not a counter-argument
>I THINK they do
not a counter-argument
>define failed
salary has become worthlless due to east-european workers
>where did you hear this crap?
not a counter-argument, also the EU doesn't operate as ONE BIG economy, it's still the country's economy
>12% of your laws come from the EU
but that DOES mean that we are losing individual power
>>76073527
>Taxes went up
not on corporations
Taxes on individual workers were increased and public services were cut.
you sold out your country to pay off the bankers
>Hundreds of thousands of families and children have been pushed into poverty. The child-poverty rate rose from 18%, in 2008, to 29.1%, in 2013.The deprivation rate increased from 26.9%, in 2012, to 30.5%, in 2013, while for lone-parent families it has risen to 63%. Food poverty affects 600,000 (up 13.2%). Austerity has also devastated rural areas and small towns, with unemployment levels remaining much higher in the south-east.
>In one of the most disturbing pieces of research into the impact of austerity, UCC and the National Suicide Research Foundation found an increase in self-harm rates of 31% in men, and 22% in women, between 2008 and 2012, while the male suicide rate is 57% higher (that’s 500 additional deaths). They cited a number of factors, including reductions in public expenditure, cuts to welfare, substantial healthcare cuts, falling house prices and personal debt.
>Capital expenditure on important public infrastructure, such as hospitals, schools, roads, transport, broadband, water and wastewater was drastically reduced, by 60%, between 2008 and 2014.
>Such spending on infrastructure is the bedrock of sustainable and competitive economies, and the lost decade of investment in these will leave Ireland’s economy much more vulnerable into the future.
>Don’t forget, also, €17bn of our national pension reserve — which was available to fund infrastructure development and future pensions — was put into the bailout.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/analysis/irelands-austerity-success-is-no-model-for-greece-340662.html
>>76073926
In one post you said Ireland ignored the EUs demands for Austerity and now you are responding by telling me we didnt. I agree that we didnt.
You are not being coherent.
Why do people keep bringing up this idea that we'll suddenly need Visas if we leave the EU?
We already have Visa-free travel to a huge amount of countries outside the EU.Why wouldn't similar arrangements be made with EU countries?
And even if we do end up needing them, who really cares? To me its such a non-issue.
>>76074059
You are correct in everything you say but I assume that the EU would try and make things awkward for you at least in the short and medium term.
For example being deliberately slow in allowing EU member states to agree to visa free travel.
>>76074054
>what is the amount of austerity
The Baltics completely cut public spending to the point they barely have a government anymore and had half their population emigrate
You'd know that if you read the first article I linked (you didn't)
>>76074172
>The Baltics
I am not talking about the Baltics. I am talking about Ireland.
EU membership has worked on the local level for Ireland as has austerity. I fully support the increase in personal income tax and keeping corporation tax low.
>hurr durr i need a visa to go travelling now
Nigger you JUST left and you want to go back already?
Reminder there are people voting REMAIN so they can easily go on holiday and they can get cheap internet to upload their pics.
This argument was used in one of the debates. People are fucking idiots, this referendum is already lost.
>>76074289
>I am not talking about the Baltics. I am talking about Ireland.
You have to understand the Baltics and Greece to understand how destructive austerity is
>I fully support the increase in personal income tax and keeping corporation tax low.
That's because you're a shortsighted idiot.
>>76074769
>Low corporation tax
That brings large businesses and employment here. You are completely wrong.
>Idiot.
I see you have no argument.
>>76074769
Oh and the reason its not destructive here is that we have a British style tax system. They don't. Our tax system has more power to enforce and investigate.
They are battling over to increase tax enforcement or not while we have a more effective taxation system already in place. When the international banking crises struck we continued as we were.
They are locked in debate. Debate created by people who are benefiting from their soft touch tax regimes.
>>76073016
>ireland
>principled
>>76072045
>the eu is the only reason there is visa waiver with europe
>let alone the uk has visa waiver with some 100 something countries
>>76075211
Could you elaborate?
>>76074920
>That brings large businesses
and highly taxed employees
You're not thinking one step ahead.
>>76072045
>vote to Remain the european union
lol
>>76075345
I am thinking two steps ahead. If we tax those businesses more they can and will leave. That results in people who are unemployed rather than highly taxed.
It's really amazing how Britain is the only country that lets its citizens make important decisions with referendums. scotland indepedence, gibraltar, falklands and now this
everyone else gets trade deals, immigrants, economic zones etc imposed on them.
truly a democratic nation
>>76075317
This.
And not just visa's.
You can free trade agreements with loads of non-EU countries as well.
When the UK leaves the EU it will still have very open borders in terms of travel and trade.
Nobody is going to cut you off, like the fear mongers claim.
>>76075683
The developing economies of the BRICs would be a good example of places the UK could trade with but these nations might have a stronger negotiating position than an isolated UK.
>>76074920
>>Low corporation tax
>That brings large businesses and employment here.
Good luck competing with our 0% tax rate.
There is a reason Apple, Microsoft, IKEA, Starbucks, The Rolling Stones, U2, and many others chose to be Dutch.
>>76075923
Your corporate tax rate is 25%.
>>76075923
You know we were part of the Dutch sandwich right? Also its been ended.
>>76075481
>taxing labor or business
they're both retarded ideas
The EU essentially exists to tax productive enterprises like business with VAT taxes and forgoes taxing the financial parasites (banks, real estate, insurance, finance, etc)
>>76072045
>I quite like a trip to France/Spain/Italy without having to worry about a visa
>As long as it benefits me, I don't care how it affects you
>>76076108
Just keep relocating all your high paying jobs here, okay? You are transitioning to millions of mexicans working in low paid jobs.
>>76076205
That is called politics.
>>76076213
Just keep staying in the EU okay?
You are transitioning to millions of Arabs and Africans working in low paid jobs.
>>76072382
Went there last month for a concert. Spent a whole day in London and not one person I interacted with was English. Not even an exaggeration.
>>76076288
>MOTHER FUCKING AFRICANS
Oh America. How low you have fallen.
>>76076500
wtf are you babbling about?
>>76076599
>Italy
Your 20% African population and your 20% mexican population beating you in the street.
>>76073359
Vote to leave mate, it's the only way to fight this shit. SJWs are produced by EU legislation which promotes a 'culture of tolerance' in our schools. Not sure when you were born but I'm 21 and we had mandatory diversity lessons and assemblies where we would be talked to by niggers from africa and also be forced to sing their tribal songs and stuff.
>>76072045
>vote to remain the European union
>remain the
K
>>76072045
>We are a diminishing trade power.
>Nuh-uh we're still #2.
Rome is burning, vote Fiddler.
>>76076662
>>76076851
We arnt in Schengen.
By your metaphor we arnt in that boat. I am waiting for you to say that you are just pretending to be retarded.
>>76076000
Not for multinationals.
>some idiot spent 10 minutes defacing the sign
>it can be trashed and replaced in 10 seconds
>>76075545
Don't discredit medkit. They're the ones on direct democracy.
>>76076923
>The EU can't push any policy it wants at any time
>we'll be fine
you hear that? That's the sound of 6 billion Africans coming to Europe for free gibs
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/africa-s-population-will-soar-dangerously-unless-women-are-more-empowered/
>>76077088
Just say you are pretending to be retarded and this can all end.
>>76072045
Whoever wrote that deserves to be brutally raped and viciously tortured. There's no point in even acting like liberals are human. The bitch deserves to be crucified, screaming and crying for her mother and shitting her pants in horror.
>>76072045
>Open borders do not work
>I think they do, so handy when u go on vacation, teehee
U-U-U-Ultra goy
>>76077199
Honestly I just think you're either blind and retarded or just too selfish to care about Europe's future.
You wouldn't happen to be a boomer would you?
>>76077088
In addition we changed it so that being born here does not entitle someone to citizenship. When are you gonna do that to stop the Mexicans? Never? Okay.
>>76077320
Then the European Council of Human Rights sues you and forces you to take all the Africans.
>>76072520
> and it's pretty great
why is this allowed? at what point did it become so acceptable for a """reporter""" to openly share their opinion about what they're """reporting"""?
>>76077418
>Take all the Africans.
The US would never give up its precious Africans. Are those boats coming from your white house?
>>76072045
Whoever wrote this is braindead.
>>76077296
why? just bcus theyre right doesnt mean u should hate them or yuor just to fuccking mad lol brexit will never happen btw
>>76077466
Saying "the US sucks because it is full of blacks" is not an arguement for why Europe should be filled with Arabs and Africans
>>76077531
>>76077581
>>76077531
Why did you turn this thread into being about how the US is so full of Africans? Stop obsessing over them.
>>76072045
It's why the IRA had to declare a ceasefire. We couldn't find any English left
>>76077628
Because I don't want Europe full of niggers or Arabs
how is that so hard to understand?
I hate this country so much it went down the shitter so fast
>>76077706
France Germany and the UK being full of niggers and Arabs is fine. They are cucks. Like the US.
>>76077719
we went from empire to Pakistan so fast
>>76077762
>France Germany and the UK being full of niggers and Arabs is fine
>fuck you I got mine
you have to be a boomer
Are Hillary's shills using Irish proxies now?
>>76077762
youll be next m8, 100000 muslims by 2050
>>76072045
>Immigration is out of control. Massive male population from different cultures destabilizing gender balance and the economy plus clashing with native cultures
>Oh so because worrying about visas is a headache we must let rapists and murderers come to our countries without control?
>Depriving nations from their own sovereignity and sanctioning them for not wanting to follow its fascist agenda means the eurozone failed.
>EU destroyed several countries' industries and it's feeding of a surplus that will run dry soon.
>EU countries, like previously said, lost their sovereignity. They have to comply or pay fines.
>So only the youth counts. Execute the people that granted you your present so you can destroy your kids future?
What a faggot whoever thought these opinions were worth a damn.
>>76075323
You want countries like England and Germany remain n the EU so your faggot country can continue leach on them.
>>76072045
>EU economic burreacracy
>good
KEK, how about telling that little Marxist shit to watch this documentary that interviews some experts on how the EU is pure shit and cucks the UK's economy at every turn?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
>>76072243
I wouldn't doubt it. It's the same situtation in many places here in America. All the media icons and top politicians advocating for mass importation of spics live in rich, upper-class mansion neighborhoods devoid of "diversity". Leftists literally don't give a shit about crime in the border states, all they want is brown votes.
>>76074148
I imagine they might but, at the same time, making it more difficult for British tourists to travel is going to have a big knock on effect on a number of EU countries.
Regardless I hope you the best of luck with the EU situation Brits. Hopefully it works out in the end for you somehow.
vote remain for greater eurabia!
>>76072045
>needing to worry about a visa to visit western europe
Yeah because having one in place is so fucking hard to manage. Kinda like I have with australia and america.
>>76072045
>its not your future, its ours
wtf
>only old white men are voting to leave
>>76072045
seeing this on facebook a lot.
the end days are coming.
>>76072045
>red herring
>anecdotal/opinion
>appeal to authority
>appeal to authority
>appeal to authority
>ad hominem
Wew lad, is this supposed to be an official argument against leaving? It's absolute bull.
What the fuck does the size of the economy have to do with trade?
>>76072243
It's always sheltered people in ivory towers telling the peasants what to think. They never live in an enriched area like say Luton and then argue for this shit.
>>76081819
Look at the handwriting, it's clearly written by a female student.
>>76082245
Alot of feminised men in academia these days
