Election is only 4 weeks away mates.
Have you decided who you're voting for?
For me the most interesting element of the election is going to be the Nick Xenophon factor.
If he can get 20%+ of the vote in SA he will be breaking new ground in the modern era. Could it be the start of the unraveling of Lib/Lab 2 party dominance in the future?
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>>76063461
>L I B E R A L
You endorsing the Turnbull coup m8?
FIRST FOR FUCK LEFTISTS RIGHT IN THE BOYPUCCI
>>76063391
im voting liberal and you all should too.
>>76063558
>im voting liberal
Not first preference m8, come on.
>>76063526
No.
I think anyone paying attention can see that Turnbull is the liberal party's little bitch, his personal views aren't going to hold influence over party positions. He's just guy who is eloquent and mildly likeable.
Abbott's mates are still the real leaders in the party.
>>76063776
>his personal views aren't going to hold influence over party positions
You are dead wrong m8. If Turnbull wins this election he will be vindicated and have a mandate to push his own agenda.
One of the well-known features of the Liberal Party is their slavish devotion to a successful leader.
>>76063868
>If Turnbull wins this election he will be vindicated and have a mandate to push his own agenda.
He literally can't, he's not a president, it's majority rule and whilst a majority decided to put him at the front that majority is now keeping him in line.
>One of the well-known features of the Liberal Party is their slavish devotion to a successful leader.
This is excellent satire.
>>76063868
turnbull > shorten
/thread
>>76064020
>He literally can't, he's not a president, it's majority rule
m8 you are a pleb who doesn't understand how the power of the PMs office has grown over the past 30 years.
Just look how powerless the party room was to stop Based Tone even when he was driving the government to ruin.
Paul Keating PM decided to sell the Commonwealth Bank without even consulting the party. He announced it to the media before he told cabinet.
>>76063391
Labor because they wont fuck me as hard as Libs
>>76064060
this is all it boils down to. vote for your irrelevant micro parties just make sure you put liberal as your next.
>>76064060
>muh lesser of two evils
We need better than that m8.
>>76064160
>Labor because they wont fuck me as hard as Libs
Can you elaborate further? I'm actually interested in why a lot of people come to this conclusion.
Labor is cheerfully let's you know that they are going to tax you more, they are going to tax your employer more.
Their whole party platform is fucking you hard.
anyone see the 5 blacks beat up that 1 14 year old on the news, the facebook comments are pretty great especially how the media didnt portray it as a racist attack
>>76064169
we need smart cunts moite, not irrelevant union thugs, retarded green people or piss weak micro penis party
who hear plays dungeons and dragons
>>76063391
Turnbull first.
Labor third
Something in between
>>76063391
How's that Carp war coming along?
>>76064344
He might be a NEET m8.
Labor is less hard on the welfare recipients.
>>76064373
Post link please m80
>>76064400
The dub dubs don't lie!
>>76064400
>smart cunts
So why would you vote Liberal mate?
>Literally only one party with a representative in my area
>They're shit
Looks like I'm not voting again lol
>>76064344
they wont sell medicare
>>76064571
not a neet m8
>>76064746
>Literally only one party with a representative in my area
What does this even mean m8? Nominations haven't even closed yet.
>>76064617
Not him but
Libs are trying to encourage new businesses to fill the void that the slowdown in mining is creating
Mates. of mine have small businesses so loving dem tax breaks
Spend less on welfare (slightly) seems good to me
Encourage working families
no spendometer
>>76064160
Where the fuck do you get this idea from? Seriously. The Labor party is all about getting as many people as possible to become dependent on the government so that they are forced to vote for Labor in order for them to survive. Labors whole agenda is to promise you all sorts of "entitlements" and handouts while taking your money from you to pay for those very things. The real clincher is that those services, like all government services, is mired in inefficient bureaucracy and waste. All the while your tax money is paying for it. Nothing is for free mate. You're better off getting taxed less so that you can, with your own free will, choose what services you want with the money that you earned.
>>76064777
There is only one party running for local government in my electoral district.
>>76064811
>Libs are trying to encourage new businesses
Libs also protect the interests of established businesses who donate to them in shameless ways.
>Spend less on welfare (slightly) seems good to me
Seems pretty shit to me m8. Newstart is barely enough to live on and everything else is means tested and activity tested up the arse.
>>76064868
>There is only one party running for local government in my electoral district
This doesn't make any sense and it is wrong anyway if it means what I think it means.
Labor and coalition contest every seat, so do the greens these days.
>>76064777
Who you leaning toward anyway? got lots of opinions
nice trips
>>76064813
nothing is free and no one owes you anything. labor hasn't promised me anything im just sick of privatizing it only leads to higher prices and shitty services.
>>76064762
>they wont sell medicare
Assuming this happened, how much of an effect would this have on your life or financially? If you're a healthy, semi-active person you'll need to see a doctor probably once a year
If you're voting Labor over Liberal for this one issue for financial reasons you consider the amount of other expenses introduced by your new government.
>>76064813
Agree
>>76064921
Welfare isn't supposed to be easy mate. Newstart should be just barely enough to live on - it's not meant to be a holiday. Have you ever had a job before?
>>76065017
>Have you ever had a job before?
A couple of hand jobs and one blow m8. Why do you ask?
>Welfare isn't supposed to be easy
It doesn't need to be pointlessly cruel either m8.
>>76064983
> privatizing it only leads to higher prices and shitty services.
Then don't use them. The whole point of privatization is that if you don't like the company you're using then change to another that is better.
>>76064974
>Who you leaning toward anyway?
I am going to vote Nick Xenophon team, then Labor, then Liberal, then Green. I live in Mayo so Xenophon team are a chance of winning.
I will vote for the most Nazi party I can find in the senate.
>>76064921
Boo hoo.
Business means jobs. As long as labour laws aren't eroded any further I'm okay.
Can't survive on New start? Add the rent assistance, childcare payments etc etc you won't starve and I'm fucking paying
who are you voting for then
1. LDP
2. Liberal
Rest don't matter
Xenophon is a contrarian populist who will change his policies every few months. If he gets any other members elected we'll see a PUP situation, the party is completely divided. Rebekha Sharkie is a Jacqui Lambie waiting to happen. James Stacey is probably the best one of the lot.
ALA is a front for Zionism, Family First are wacky evangelicals, One Nation is led by a moron (one with a point - I'd consider them if they had eloquent members), ALP will burden us with debt and the less said about the Greens the better.
>>76065098
I take it you've never had a job. Therefore you've never paid tax. Once you start doing above you'll understand.
> pointlessly cruel
Welcome to the real world where everything is extremely unfair and cruel. Deal with it like an adult. Having a whinge doesn't get you anywhere.
>>76065177
>who are you voting for then
See here m80: >>76065150
>>76065098
>pointlessly cruel
I don't think being given any amount of money for doing nothing could be considered cruel.
>>76064990
i go to the doctor maybe once every three years but it will affect the lower incomes and students. fuck privatization i dont like it
>>76065132
right right
>pic related
>>76064974
I dunno if the Xeno team has a candidate up my way but I will check them out. Can you summarise their policies
I'm going to donkey vote. Convince me to do otherwise.
>>76065236
I know right. Having to study and get free money from tax payers is cruelty.
>>76065251
>Can you summarise their policies
"Do opposite of what current government does"
americans please don't vote hillary if you do we will get bombed again and then i will go to fucking islamic state and kill you pigs dick bitch
>>76065236
>money for doing nothing
It is money for being treated in an undignified manner. Being blamed for being unemployed when the cause is actually structural and beyond your control.
I'm going to rig the elections, you cunts.
>>76065251
>Can you summarise their policies
No, they are more a vibe than an ideology. They are a way of saying fuck you to the two party system.
They have common sense populist policies usually. They are not fashy, but not too PC SJW either.
Question. Is it even worth voting against the 2.5 party system we have?
>>76065240
>>76065240
>i go to the doctor maybe once every three years but it will affect the lower incomes and students. fuck privatization i dont like it
Barely.
I remember how much of a fuss everybody kicked up about the idea of a $5 co-payment which is frankly, a good idea.
As someone in the lower-class, who goes to the doctors maybe twice a year I can tell you that having to pay (a little) would be the best thing for services, clinics are flooded with entitled females going in for colds and headaches, all of these cunts wouldn't be there if they had to put even $2 forward. Whip out mum's medicare card and you don't have to work though.
>>76065270
Just draw a cock n balls and slam it in there
the donkey vote adds about 1% to the lucky bastard at the top of the paper, its arbitrary and random and unfair.
dont write anything at all. is more fair
>>76065313
>Being blamed for being unemployed when the cause is actually structural and beyond your control.
If I can be a literal autist and get a job, you can too.
>>76065362
>Not PC
Xenophon was against repealing section 18C of the racial discrimination act
>>76065215
>replying to obvious bait
dumb cunt
>>76065299
Nice dubs
also, a familiar platform to campaign with
>>76064591
https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/31765335/cowards-film-brutal-five-on-one-attack-on-melbourne-school-boy/
check out 7 news australia for the comments on facebook
>>76065311
Mate this is a thread bout Ausfailian election great post though
>>76065313
>MUH STRUCTURAL OPPRESSION
Go be a nigger somewhere else.
>>76065484
You'd be surprised. There are some cunts who actually feel victimized that they aren't getting more dole money.
>>76065435
i think that a 5 co payment was a fair idea but not for everyone elderly,student and the poor
who /zinger/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR_dQnm9QlI
>>76063391
I reckon Turncoat's going to get rolled, he's a low energy globalist backstabber who's intent on grabbing our super for his bankster mates.
Shorten's a little dwarf headed cunt too though.
>>76065553
So close to quads
good post
>>76065448
>Xenophon was against repealing section 18C of the racial discrimination act
So were the coalition in the end.
When I said they weren't PC I didn't mean they were ANTI-PC. They aren't hardcore about it like the left.
voting greens
I'm a tranny, they're going to pay for my genitals to be mutilated
>>76063868
still take sudo leftie turnbull with free reign than shorten anyday
>>76065408
yes don't be a cuck.
number EVERY box and put the 3 major parties last (LNP dead last)
>>76065669
Top Kek
>>76065530
Thanks m8.
>>76065602
Unless if you're going to the doctor everyday then an extra $5 per visit is fucking nothing. I know people who whinge and complained about it while downing a premixed rum and coke. All it'll take is drink one less alcoholic beverage. If it was $50 per visit - then I'd see the problem.
>>76065567
this is true but you forget where you are and what flag you were replying to. it's actually not that hard to seperate trolls from serious posts. that's if you've been here long enough.
>>76065602
Why? Students get tanked every weekend, they can afford $5 every year
The amended changes had exceptions for pensioners and people with chronic conditions that required regular doctors visits
The $5 copayment was never about revenue, it was about deterring people from visting the GP when they've got a case of the sniffles. Most of the time when you're sick you don't need a doctor, you need panadol, 3 decent meals a day and maybe a day off - you don't need to burden the health system. If the $X barrier exists then people will think twice instead of waltzing in when they sneeze
>>76065530
>kid's name is Haydyn
Why
>>76065723
>People who smoke complaining about the $5 co payment
>>76065602
>everyone elderly,student and the poor
Students and poor people can afford $5, find some coins in the gutter and you're golden.
Boomers can fuck off and die, they're so used to getting discounts and freebies that they go into private businesses and make complaints about having to pay the full price like everyone else.
>>76063391
>>76065724
Maybe I'm just a autistic who is socially retarded to the point where I sometimes can't tell if bait or not...
>>76065730
But if you've got a job you need a doctors note for an absence or you don't get sick pay, that's the real problem. Going to work sick is bad for everyone, you just spread it to everyone you work with and make things worse than they would have been if you didn't show up.
>>76063391
This election has zero substance. No matter who gets elected, the reality is that nothing will change over the next 4 years.
This country isn't in the shitter and hard right/ left wingers aren't going to change anything any time soon. Easy as we go fellas.
>>76065702
Although I won't do this, old mate is right. the big swings to the little parties put the frighteners into the big ones ESPECIALLY when they get into the Senate or hold ze balance of power.
if you are dissatisfied with big 2, vote for the Independent candidate or anyone else. it sends out a message
>>76065723
old people are the problem,
>muh doctor 3 times a week
Anyone got any information on the Australian Liberty Alliance? I've found a lot of their policies to be quite agreeable. http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/
>>76064452
Do you guys seriously only have libtard or labor choice? LOL... sorry...
>>76065703
not even joking though
>>76065723
m8 some people spend all their dole money (literally every cent) before the fortnight is up and then if you have a medical emergency you literally will not have the $5 to take yourself or your child to the doctor.
>>76065943
Our liberals are classical liberals and more conservative than your republicans, not American socialist liberals.
>>76065742
>Haydyn
Better than Ongo Bongo m8.
>>76065943
How many options for you? all I see is Shillary and Trump
What's the big picture over there I wouldn't know
>>76065797
>can't tell if bait
Ask them for ID before intercourse m8. Don't want to go on the register.
>>76066039
If you're going to a GP it's clearly not an emergency.
>>76066048
Well shit, it's no question who you should vote for then. Classical Liberals are BASED
>>76066039
then why don't they go get a job?
>>76065938
>Australian Liberty Alliance?
They are a Jewish front, trying to subvert Aussie Nationalism into a pro Israel anti-Muslim sideshow.
>>76063391
Not even registered, mate.
>>76066048
OHHH that's what he thought as in Liberal Libertarians
>>76065943
Umm, we only have 2 choices too
>>76066113
Nah they're fuckheads. He's only telling half the truth. In reality Liberals are just a bunch of corporate shills, Labour are a bunch of pinko communists and the Greens don't actually care about the environment.
Every major political party in Australia is bad.
>>76066136
> jews
> muslims
pick one
>>76066110
>If you're going to a GP it's clearly not an emergency.
Another thing it will do is push more people into the Hospital Emergency Rooms rather than the GP surgery.
>>76065730
>>76065767
5dollars today but lose of revenue it will be 10dollars the next year,13the next and so on.
this fuck u got mine attitude is ruining this country along with the lefties
>>76065724
>tips hat
>>76066193
>pick one
Why not just not give a shit about either and ban them both from Australia?
Vote with your heart, Australia.
Nightmare scenario
>Labor wins
>calls republic vote
>it succeeds
Who becomes first Australian president?
My money's on this guy
>>76066113
Yeah. Liberal as in Liberal economics. now you get it.
Having said that, when workers rights get eroded, I usually vote Labor at the next election. Or into the Senate to put the stall on the Liberal train before it gets runaway.
You can't let either mob drive for too long
>>76066271
K Rudd for prez
>>76066271
>Nightmare scenario
meh I can think of much worse nightmares than that m8.
>>76066256
> ban them both
hmm... good point.
however, i personally don't have anything against jews and this whole jewish conspiracy crap is complete utter nonsense to me.
>>76066298
Kevin 'one seven
>>76066271
Republic vote won't succeed for another generation, support for the Monarchy is higher than it was back for the previous one.
Why should Stan "Invasion Day" Grant be President? He's a journalist who's written a few books whining about racism - no governing experience, no notable accomplishments, and a divisive figure rather than a uniting one.
>>76066359
>and this whole jewish conspiracy crap is complete utter nonsense to me
There is no conspiracy m8. that doesn't mean they aren't cancer.
>>76063526
Yes
>>76066298
Kevinteen
>>76066415
I disagree. However, I see musslimes/sand niggers as the true enemy.
>>76063391
>>76066161
False.
>>76066464
Kev seemed like an okay bloke, called the Chinks out for being ratfuckers I think most Australians can relate to that
When are the candidates confirmed? I have no idea who I'm voting for yet
>>76066398
not really for republic atm but will be if bongs don't brexit
>>76066512
P sure they already have been m80
ABC has lists for most electorates
>>76066488
>>76066487
>I see musslimes/sand niggers as the true enemy
They could be in large enough numbers. there aren't that many of them here though m8.
Looks like you still haven't taken the red pill.
>>76066219
Yeah, within reason I try not to vote on fuck you got mine attitude.
but I live in Palmerston NT and I see the dole bludgers every day, got kids, don't go to school, rent paid by Centrelink, sinking piss, groceries on the Basics Card, and I think... FUCK THEM that's my fucking tax.
>>76066512
>When are the candidates confirmed?
June 8th m8.
>>76066553
>P sure they already have been
False.
>>76066537
Can I ask you two questions?
1) Why are you for a Republic?
2) How would an Australian Republic work?
>>76066398
>Why should Stan "Invasion Day" Grant be President?
He shouldn't, he's an annoying cunt but he is very popular with the Australian left who are treating him like a messiah and begging him to get into politics.
It's like Waleed Ali all over again where any time he speaks it's like this magical event that everyone needs to know but with Stan Grant, he's part aboriginal so he's seen as being 10 times more important.
Abos will be a big theme in Australia becoming a republic and they'll want an Aboriginal figure at the front. It's like this man is preparing for it
>>76066488
know to budget doh
>>76066592
So essentially you're an AJ living on robbo bks looking at all the coons and niggers hanging around Archies, the Tav and HJ's? Not to mention all the coons on mitchelton st.
>>76066613
Thanks m8
>>76066386
>>76066464
>>76066505
I could go for another free $900
>>76063391
Sex party, then x man
Then the rest
Final 3 liberal, green, labor in That order
>>76066642
Where do the abo's rank on the oppression scale here?
>>76066631
Please don't desu, stay strong for queen liz
>>76065435
>As someone in the lower-class
Stop right there, bullshit content too high.
>>76066685
You're welcome m8. I was actually one day off though:
The timetable for the election is -
9 May - both houses of parliament dissolved
16 May - election writs issued
23 May - close of electoral rolls
9 June - close of nominations with ballot paper details issued 10 June and early voting should begin 14 June
2 July - polling day
8 August - date set for return of writs
>>76066631
not for it atm, but will be if no brexit
same as now just pollies get different titles
>>76066670
Not an AJ mate an actual resident. But yeah, you ain't far off the mark otherwise. right over the road from KFC. you know where i mean. Seen it on "payday?"
>>76066736
>free $900
I gambled mine away. True story. I blew it on one bet. Can't remember what it was.
>>76066737
>Sex party
Degenerate m8.
>>76066793
I bought a new PC
>>76063391
Im voting for based Nick xenophon
Liberal Democrats or fuck off
>>76066592
i see that not a problem with socialism but a problem with their values. only thing they need is some tough love i.e sent to the gulag for a few of months hard labour
>>76066854
>Im voting for based Nick xenophon
Good on ya m8. You in SA?
>>76066854
Xenophon is a contrarian greens-lite tard.
>>76066901
sadly i think UK is too far gone to be saved desu
>>76066884
Yep, ill be migrating to Victoria in a years time
>>76066736
Actually yes I remember that too. Fucking Legend
>>76066858
Or get them off the handouts.
A person I know works in education for remote communities and dont get me wrong, I dont hate each and every one of them (especially the young ones who want to do school and that) but what a huge waste of welfare money
and I have to look at it every time I go to the shops...
>>76066631
I never understand republicans who live in a parliamentary democracy
So the powerless figurehead is some guy as opposed to some guy who you elect
Who cares?
>>76066996
>migrating to Victoria
Good on ya m8. Personally I don't even leave the house though.
didnt even bother to register
>>76067021
Australia becoming a republic is good more for the fact that it makes it far less likely that there is ever a free travel agreement between us and the UK.
>>76067053
hey man. youre vote counts dont you know
>>76063391
who I'm voting for atm in the NSW senate
R8 and H8
>>76067021
I'm actually along those lines too
Plus it will cost a fucking cuntload to change every fucking flag, govt logo, letterhead, numberplate, uniform, etc etc etc who can be fucked and why
>>76066970
>yfw the anglo-celtic population of england and australia are about the same even though england is the homeland
if brexit fails i will emigrate desu
>>76067053
I have my forms here m8 see pic related.
>>76067152
Fuck off we're full
>>76067130
I've seen worse m8, but it is still pretty meme. LDP and Angry Anderson, Pretty shit.
probably vote informal as usual....
wrote "legalize lsd" last time, but my political views have progressed since then and im now thinking of a "legalize dmt" vote instead.
australian democracy is mainly bullshit, i mean fair play to you if your a failed suburban lawyer or union official aiming to bludge of the system as an MP, go to canberra, join all the other inbred nepotists and flunkies looking after the banks, mining companies and all the other parasites systemically bleeding the nation for all that its worth...
but as they used to say
voting just encourages them
>>76067158
oh shit lad
>>76067158
>he only crossed out 1 address
have fun paying for pizzas all night
>>76067130
Where's the shooter's and fishers party mate
>>76067201
why do you have to be like this
>>76067204
well who are you voting for?
>>76067204
Fuck off LDP best party
>>76067278
See here m8: >>76065150
>>76067272
they teach it in schools mate.
"stranger danger"
"look twice before you cross the road"
"fuck off we're full"
>>76067366
Go fuck yourself commie
>>76067366
thrice in one night
also dubs again you're doing ok
>>76067315
>LDP best party
It is like a fucking autism convention m8.
>>76065150
>>76067366
Xenophon votes for the greens most of the time, and his candidates are literal unknowns. Have you spoken to the NXT guy running in your seat?
>>76067410
sadly they teach the opposite in ours because le evil empire meme
>>76067474
Are you simple bro. Leyonhjelm is the smartest man in senate.
>>76067494
>Xenophon votes for the greens most of the time
Because the Greens are right about a lot of the shitty things the major parties do. Things relating to accountability and corruption etc. Xenophon doesn't vote for communism m8.
>Have you spoken to the NXT guy running in your seat?
No m8, I don't give enough of a shit about it. I only have one vote.
Great talk /pol/ I'm gonna crash. look forward to the next one.
>>76067546
>the smartest man in senate
If he was that smart he would have abandoned his silly meme ideology in his early twenties like normal people do.
>>76066631
Have my response in image form, because in 7 1/2 years of posting here I've never had this error and nothing I do will stop it
>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
>>76067602
>I'm gonna crash
Put your seatbelt on then m8. Good luck.
>>76067600
>Because the Greens are right about a lot of the shitty things the major parties do.
Fuck off commie
>>76067736
selective quoting m8. Poor form.
Bad poster.
>>76067634
>freedom is a meme
Fuck neo/pol/
Libs over Labor, but they're both going as dead last as I can make them.
>>76067765
Commie
>>76067781
>they're both going as dead last as I can make them
I think this is the important part m8. What we need is an end to the twoiparty system some time in the future.
>>76067736
He's right, fool.
>>76063391
As I am working at a polling booth, I am unable to give my voting preference to the public.
Aboscum needs to be range banned, asap
>>76067859
>>>/revleft/
>>76067635
>wants the states to give up their Senate
Enjoy being eaten alive by the Party's state branches, Mr Prime Minister.
>>76067600
Fucking commie.
>>76067915
>the major parties are both innocent babbies totally without sin
Take your partisan "EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS ALWAYS WRONG" and fuck off, cunt.
The Greens are fucking spastics, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
fuckin cunts
>>76067971
>t-the greens are spastics
Don't sucker up to me commie
>>76068004
riteo m8
>>76068004
Have a (you) m80.
>>76068028
kek
>>76068004
>>76067938
Well I never said the established parties would like it, but that is probably an indication for it's upsides rather than its downsides.
why not make james mattis Primarch of Oceania Chapter ?
>>76068032
Go fuck yourself you small-minded retard.
Intelligent people who disagree with you do exist, and some of them are a part of the Greens. These people see some of the same problems that you do, and some of their solutions to those problems are effective and practical. Decrying these solutions based on where they come from, and not what they are, is fucking retarded. If you can't look past your own ideological blinkers to do what is best for the nation then you ought to be shot.
>BUT I DON'T LIKE THE GREENS.
Cool. Position noted. This doesn't change the fact that the Greens have some policies that are effective, practical, and desirable.
You are the direct counterpart of the progressive left. You are the useful idiot of the "other side" of politics because you are incapable of thinking for yourself and submit slavishly to brand loyalty. You belong in a gas chamber. I probably agree with you on a lot of issues, but I'd rather have you dead than on my side because you make the rest of us look bad by association.
There is not "left" and "right", there are "smart" and "stupid". Smarts exist on the left and right, and so do stupid people. The only enemy is the stupid people - smart people who disagree with you are allies in the making.
Why not just vote Donald Trump as PM?
when is the election? I have been doing fuck all to keep up with it or who is who
>>76068223
Lol you expect me to read that drivel, commie? Vote 1 LDP.
>>76068223
>>76066811
Do it for the lolz
They will never win a seat, but will keep trying if they get enough votes
reads marcus aurelius...
>>76068259
would if i could m8
>>76068167
The parties would veto all of your changes except for the El Presidente and his dictatorial ability to veto bills. The party whose prospective El Presidente was polling the best would do anything they could to ram through your reform, and if they were the government that part at least would pass, and then they'd install their El Presidente and use him, during the Opposition's term, to continue to exert their political influence from beyond their electoral grave.
Reserve powers are far too important to leave up to the public, anon.
>>76066089
Yeah but we all know the Obvious choice is Trump
>>76068223
>there is no left and right
come on mate that is a fucking dumb thing to say.
>>76068223
>the Greens have some policies that are effective, practical, and desirable.
Which policies in particular are the best greens policies in your opinion?
The 100,000 refugee intake? Safe schools?
>>76068223
Get a load of this faggot trying to have an intelligent discussion on /pol/
>>76065215
Not the guy you're responding too but in what world is Newstart is survivable off? I can't afford new clothes for interviews.
Greens policy = get cucked by Muslims and Prajeets
>>76068223
>in this moment I am enlightened, not by any parties false right - left dichotomy, but by my own intelligence
*vapes*
>>76068405
> 100,000 refugee intake
Cultural suicide. We don't need thousands of poo-in-the-loos, sand niggers, spics, rice munchers and niggers.
>>76068396
It's true. In modern Australian politics there is a choice between:
>cosmopolitan state-capitalism
or
>cosmopolitan state-capitalism
Sure, the specifics vary, and those specifics are important, but the actual governing philosophy is the same. There is no viable reactionary party. There is no viable national socialist party. There isn't even a viable Greens party.
The reason the Libs and the Labs have different policy positions is because of party politics and what their focus groups say will let them retain their base while appealing to the swing voters, not because of any actual ideological differences. It's policy by circumstance, not policy by principle. If you put Lib politicians into a Labor party room they would come out of that party room with the same policies as Labor because they are hollow men - slack-faced ghouls who exist to be re-elected and are re-elected just to exist.
>>76068507
>can't afford new clothes for interviews
You don't know how to buy clothes.
>>76068507
Do you buy a new set of clothes for each interview? Have you tried all options? Parents? Friends? Charity organizations - vinnies, red cross? What jobs are you trying to get into?
>>76068573
>labor and liberal are the only parties
Lol
>>76068640
>What jobs are you trying to get into?
Fashion model by the sounds of it.
>>76068405
Publicly funded elections and the criminalisation of political "donations" (read: bribes, because that's what they are).
>>76068543
*tips menorah*
>>76066117
Not enough jobs
>>76068675
They're the only parties that matter, because they're the two parties that have broad positions that appeal to the majority of Australians.
Sure, a reactionary party probably exists. Nobody cares about it.
I always vote for the opposition because I like change for the sake of change.
>>76068699
Fucking socialist.
>>76068757
>s-stop voting for the party you agree with
March on commie
>>76068952
>being so desperate you have to make up quotes
Strawmen get out.
>>76068883
National socialist*
>>76068699
the bad thing about public funded elections is that you as a taxpayer have to fund shitty politicians you might not agree with. It's also gonna be pretty hard to completely scrap private donations. I think they should just have a public donations registry done through the AEC, any donation over $100 can be traced to any party 24 hours after it has been sent.
Transparency is key.
>>76068727
There are plenty of jobs out there. You just got to actually put some effort into looking for them. Seek and others like it are pretty basic searches. I find that when I have these conversations that people are just really picky with the jobs they want. You got to lower your standards and accept the fact that you're not going to get promoted within 6 months being there and that, shock horror, you're going to have to do some work.
> there's no work.
Fucking bullshit. There's plenty - you just got to be prepared to to it. Any job is better then no job. A employer looking at a resume seeing that someone was jobless for 5 years is not going to be impressed. If those 5 years were filled with: 6months dishwasher. 1 year crushing rock. 2months cleaning cars. 1 year labeling paint cans. etc etc etc. With some good reports - who's the employer going to hire?
Liberal
Independent if I can find where he sits on the spectrum
Labor
Greens
Family First
Although I might swap Labor and FF simply because I like FF's protectionist policy.
In the upper house it's a simple 1 in the liberal democrats box, unless someone can convince me there's a better libertarian/classical liberal party that's not single issue "muh guns, also weed lol."
>>76068699
>publicly funded parties
>ban on party donations
Are you literally retarded. Why should the public be forced to flip the bill for every stupid party
>>76069055
FF are pro refugee Christian lunatics
>>76069055
What state are you in anon.
Don't just vote 1 imo, your vote might exhaust.
We should have a system like in Starship Troopers where there are citizens and civilians. Citizens can vote while civilians can't. Who's with me?!
>>76069055
>Independent if I can find where he sits on the spectrum
They usually just have aspergers but sometimes it is full-blown autism.
>>76069000
Nationalist my asshole greenie.
>>76069012
>the bad thing about public funded elections is that you as a taxpayer have to fund shitty politicians you might not agree with
Anyone who is upset by this doesn't deserve their vote, because they demonstrate a complete lack of understanding for how democracy works. Besides, there's no way to trace where your tax dollars actually end up so who cares lol. If anyone complains just tell them that all their taxes were used for roads, wink wink.
>It's also gonna be pretty hard to completely scrap private donations.
True, but it's a worthy pursuit.
>I think they should just have a public donations registry done through the AEC, any donation over $100 can be traced to any party 24 hours after it has been sent.
We've already got a registry. It's not as stringent or as all-encompassing as that, but it does exist. The problem isn't a lack of transparency, it's that nobody cares. The electorate just flat-out doesn't seem to be bothered by it very much.
>>76069073
Because in every other funding model money becomes equivalent to power. Democracy is based on a fundamental principle roughly equivalent to 'one man - one vote'. Put another way: everyone should get equal say. But we all know this isn't the case. Money talks.
True democracy requires one of the following to be the case:
1. everyone has the same amount of money, so everyone has the same amount of bribing power
2. money is taken out of politics so that wealth no longer increases your political clout
So which do you want? Taxpayer funded parties, or literal 'red scare' communism?
Nobody ever claimed democracy would be cheap, but it's an ideal that people have died for. I think that the monetary cost of public parties pales in comparison to what we've already given up for the sham that we've got.
>>76069261
>let me tell you what you think
no
>4 weeks away
Where's my letter then cunt?
>>76069257
>>76068223
You will be the first placed against the wall and executed for treason Commie cocksucker.
>>76069423
GTFO and go suck cocks in that Ottoman fuck circle that is /r/australia
Hey Australia where's my plane? Found it yet?
>>76069423
>money = power
Just like a typical socialist to put absolutely 0 faith in the public.
Forcing people to pay for politicians to shit on them is authoritarian as fuck and it doesn't take money out of politics, it forces it into it ensuring any retard gets to fuck about on free money without any supporters.
The only change that would make sense is transparency because it keeps the voter informed without reaching into his pocket or preventing him from supporting his party of choice.
>>76069561
>>76069704
Did I trigger you, bitch niggers? Go on, report me to the Police for your hurt feelings.
>>76069049
Wow you're a stupid fuck aren't you? There are unemployed then are jobs. My field has been offshored to hell and back.
