What does /pol/ think of Edward Snowden?
Great dude. Fought the tyranny of his corrupt government. He should be running for president not drumpf
>>76033853
This, Edward Snowden is the rightful king of America, he has earned that right through his noble actions
>>76033666
He is a traitor and should be in prison.
>>76033666
He is a deep agent and sits on several of George Soros open society boards. He is still on the side of US NWO.
>>76033999
This 100000x
Tryhard, a liberal with probably good intentions who is struggling to stay relevant through tweets. Didn't he leave his wife and kid(s) behind?
>>76034021
This.
>>76033999
Check'em!!! Also MUH DICK!!!
>>76033666
sacrifised allot for his fellow country men.
too bad most of them are blithering idiots who don't deserve it and hates him for it
>>76033666
I think a lot less of him now that he used the 2016 nonargument.
>>76033666
Governments should spy on people!
IT'S 2016 FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!
>It's 2016
I like that he revealed government corruption. I don't like that he gave our secrets to foreign governments.
>>76033999
(((You)))
He's an SJW. He should get the electric chair. I'm sick of defending my enemy on "principle." I've come to believe that if you believe evil shit you should die violently and in great pain.
Snowden fits that bill.
>>76034547
>He's an SJW. He should get the electric chair
this
>>76033666
traitor. If he ever comes back to the United States I will make sure he eats a bullet before the end of the first year.
>>76033666
He's a traitor faggot that got btfo
>>76033999
This, superior trips wins
>>76033666
traitor who should be drawn and quartered
>>76033666
Well Satan, I think that he should be shot in the back of the head.
>>76033666
He's a hero with dumb political views, hence throwing in with Greenwald.
I think his views will evolve though.
>>76034846
Only jew here is you
>>76035007
Shekelberg plz, who are you fooling you kike
>>76033666
Kill him. He had ways to report misconduct. We literally have an entire office dedicated to oversight.
Also most people who hang off his nuts have no idea what he gave Russia. They just want to praise a whistleblower. But he gave them design plans to a tank. What does that have to do with domestic surveillance? Fuck all, that's what.
Fuck him and his neckbeard following.
>>76035119
Kike, we have a thing called the "Constitution" here, don't like it, kill yourself. 4th Amendment cuckold
Also >>>(((You)))
Could've went to Rand Paul or some similar public servant that would publicize the general practices.
Instead he took thousands of documents and without sorting through them handed them over to a foreign company (The Guardian), then fled to a recent enemy of Americas with the documents in hand, leaving open the possibility of further interception.
He's a traitor.
>>76033999
good try schlomo.
that being said trump might be right about him being a spy, not that its bad.
a modern day spy would probably pull something like this.
>>76033999
>>76035119
>We literally have an entire office dedicated to oversight
Kek and what did this do, hmm?
>>76035210
>My enemies who want to destroy me and my race should be defended at all costs!
Get lost you despicable communist kike. You people will be the first to go.
>>76033666
communist and traitor. Burn him at the stake.
>>76035523
>What is 4th Amendment
>NSA
>anything to do with foreign policy
>not literally a giant spy machine on America
Kike subversive plz go
>>76033999
kek wills it
>>76033666
He underestimated how little Americans care about their rights.
>>76033666
Releasing details about domestic spying of civilians was an amazing thing and he should be thanked for it.
Releasing details of foreign spying on enemies was one of the most cowardly things he could have done and he deserves to be put on trial for it.
Really though he's outlasted his usefulness (all documents would be given straight to Russia, not the media) and if he ever goes to the US for trial he'll end up dead in a freak "accident" by bashing his head up against the side of a wall or something.
given that he says 'protip' in the citizenfour documentary, and how he acts in general, he was a newfag who browsed /b/. He probably got muh patriotism/muh anarchism from the CIA psyop brainwashing the users of this website since early 2009.
CIA has spent 100 years destabilizing foreign governments, they're in the process of destabilizing our own and installing a puppet dictator which can give them direct access over military assets.
People like Alex Jones are double agents, paid to (1) tell the truth (2) be discredible so nobody but the crazies believe it.
The best way to keep a conspiracy secret is to reveal it in such a way that nobody believes it.
The CIA doesn't need alien technology or thousands of double agents to take control of the government. They just need a missile to hit airforce 1 and the right guy to be vice president.
Watch closely who Hillary and Trumps VP choices are, they will both have direct links to the CIA. Prepare your booty, it's staged coup into revolution and military dictatorship time friends.
>>76035735
>Snowden reveals NSA secrets violating the entire Constitution
>Burgers don't care
>Refugees arrive
>muh heritage
Is America cuck'd?
>>76035253
>Instead he took thousands of documents and without sorting through them handed them over to a foreign company (The Guardian), then fled to a recent enemy of Americas with the documents in hand, leaving open the possibility of further interception.
america is an enemy of the white people
>>76035735
This.
He's still alive?
That's pretty neat.
>>76035643
If all America is to you is a piece of paper then you're not an American.
You are a kike, and one day you will die for it.
>>76036135
Yes it literally is a piece of paper you fucking reddit faggot.
OMG you're new here aren't you, I bet you're some faggy reddit trump supporters
>>>/trash/
>>76036271
No. It's not. Go away cuckservative scum.
>>76033666
I don't understand why /pol/ considers him a traitor when all he did was expose how corrupt and invasive the government is.
We hate the Jews and we hate Washington and we hate the establishment but we believe the narrative that somebody who risked their entire livelihood trying to undermine them and expose how far their hands go in cyberspace is a "traitor"?
>>76036271
>it literally is a piece of paper
What part of "God given rights" and "The Constitution only has power over the government" don't you get?
All people have all rights at birth, the Constitution is merely a rulebook for the Government to follow. If the Government stops obeying the Constitution, it is the duty of the people to defend their god given rights (Hint: Not the ones in the fucking constitution) and overthrow the government.
You're an idiot, and the way that you speak merely indicates you're a post-2014 arrival who wants to be hip and cool.
>>76036582
They're either neo-/pol/ idiots who believe that the Government is always right and the People are below it, or they're focusing entirely on Snowden's sale of state secrets to China and Russia.
>>76033666
Hero who should not be prosecuted.
>>76036329
>>>(((You)))
I'm not conservative, trump is a massive faggot, gtfo cuck subversive literally KYS nigger kike jew
>>76033999
shopped
>>76034530
I'm not a hug fan but the media really fucked him and we know how the media feels about the intelligence community and military. He had route internally to release "safe" info to the public so he fucked up when he trusted the jews to do it.
>>76034547
>He's an SJW. He should get the electric chair
you're being petty, this man has called out great curroption in the US domestic espionage agencies when that alone is borderline against the 4th amendment and you want him to die? why are you thinking about insignificant issues
>>76033666
A patriot that exposed disgusting and egregious government corruption.
>>76033666
Google limited hangout.
>Snowden is a traitor
This is how I know Jewish agents have infiltrated here. The idea that revealing that the corrupt government spies on its own people with nothing to show for it and even openly lie about it to the Supreme Court is somehow traitorous is absolutely insane. You should be ashamed of yourself /pol/.
The truth is the truth and anyone that claims that the truth should be hidden because it is dangerous is a shill and a true traitor to this country.
>>76035921
Most people don't even know who Edward Snowden is and why he's considered a criminal. I even meet people that don't know what the NSA is and what they do. Americans are just completely unaware of what goes on outside their job and mainstream/social media. Bunch of idiots man, just look at the news today. What happened in San Jose last night is being out right lied about and misrepresented to somehow being Trump's fault. baka
>>76033666
i think all that drama amounted to nothing
He honestly strikes me more and more as a regular lefty white guy with no real political knowledge who became famous. He exposed the nsa which most of the people in the us do not care about and has used that fame to do nothing and pomote whatever the popular opinion is. If he did sell the information he had as I hear around on here, then honestly fuck him. He is a traitor. If not then whatever, I bet many other people would've exposed the nsa if they had the opportunity to
>>76033999
I want to smell her farts and smear her poop on me.
>>76033666
He should have stayed in the US and become a martyr
By running he ruined his cause
You have to stick around take the BS and wait until the people realize how great you are
Then you become godlike
>>76038421
>>76038042
Revealing sensitive documents to foreign powers at the cost of your own country is the textbook definition of traitor you cuck
>>76033666
Legally, a traitor who should be shot to death.
Personally, meh. Every one of the countries whom he reviled that the US has been spying on has spies in the US and we know it. That's why no MAJOR diplomatic issues have sprung about.
Should still probably be killed for being a dumb narc who knows nothing about global politics.
>>76038903
>implying he revealed them to a foreign power
>leaking crimes of the government
>implying he even betrayed the Constitution
>from a kiwi cuck
It says in the Declaration of Independence it's your duty to act against the government is it goes against the Constitution.
>>76033666
I cant believe I actually used to like this guy
I mean, I still think it was the right thing to do to expose the government spying, that was necessary and I think I might've done the same but this whole neo-Snowden SJW shit is terrible, and makes me doubt his legitimacy as a whistler-blower. He sounds more and more like an anti-American shill every tweet he makes
>>76035735
Americans don't have a media that represents their interests, just Jewish interests.
Snowden is a faggot traitor and only traitors like him.
I can't wait till he is assassinated.
I hope all his supporters die In car accidents too.
>>76034021
obvious this
>>76033666
I don't think about him at all
>>76033666
the dude is so fake, and the hordes that support him, even faker lol
>>76033666
If he weren't a sjw he'd be an ok guy.
>implying nsa isn't a liberal stronghold
>implying they aren't just a massive censorship machine
Snowden did what he did in order to let free places like /pol/ live longer, I can only be grateful. If you think he did something wrong, you're retarded and you're literally endorsing the left and their agenda to turn the internet into a massive safe-space for liberalism.
>>76040225
ya /pol/ is really dead in the US, as opposed to uh.... Russia, China, your imagination?
>>76040718
do you even realize that it's thanks to things like this that massive censorship projects don't have any success in the US? and when did I ever mention anything about those countries? they do have censorship because nobody stood up to deny that crap, or they got killed in the process.
>>76040946
really? and thanks to what is there massive censorship projects where Snowden is now, and China. You seriously thinks the "masses" are that stupid huh?
>>76041150
>thanks to what is there massive censorship projects where Snowden is now, and China
as I just implied, there's censorship because they've massive surveillance infrastructures just like NSA.
>You seriously thinks the "masses" are that stupid huh?
When did I imply that? stupid about what?
>>76040718
China does have a monopoly on the internet and what is posted on it.
>>76041150
I'd guess they're trying to intentionally make the US look bad (and failing miserably based on the outcome of almost zero diplomatic sanctions) because everyone has spies in every one of the foreign states they deal with.
>>76041347
Ya Snowden really did a good job stopping the NSA lol.
Love the treason, hate the traitor.
old story
>>76041460
>exposing massive informations about the largest surevillance project of all times
>it was useless
then why do you give a shit about him?
>>76041589
because it's funny
>>76041460
Snowden was an idiot. He accomplished effectively nothing and yet earned him a one-way ticket towards treason.
>>76041678
ya pretty much
>>76041631
this.
>>76041589
The funny thing was that there were almost zero consequences about his revelation, despite all of the negative media against him. And now he's stuck in some country that doesn't want him because the US stopped caring and the RU stopped giving a shit. No western country will accept him because they are too busy sucking the US' cock so he is stuck in a completely alien lifestyle.
I actually have no idea what snowden did wrong other than confirm the gov is spying on us
>>76042046
Would be funny though if he used his mastermind to become a mighty russian oligarch or the leader of a hacker syndicate
>>76042046
Honestly, most other countries hate him for being a whistle-blower in the first-place (and blowing their own cover). I fully expect him to be watched around-the-clock wherever he goes in our frenemy states.
Fuck off neocons and bootlickers, Snowden is a hero. Le Pen agrees.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/737996490526887936
>I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic
>against all enemies
>foreign and domestic
>AND DOMESTIC
>>76042278
He's smart, not that smart. Whatever the Russian KGB is nowadays, will be watching him for the remainder of his life because he's a traitor (and every government has its share of secrets). They would prevent his accession into oligarchy like water unto a match.
>>76042688
I was kidding, but I seriously wonder what will happen to him.
I could imagine that some day he will just drop dead
>>76033666
He's a douchebag. I like what he did, but I don't like hi personality. I also don't think he did it for the right reasons. If you watch Citizen Four, it's obvious the guy is just an attention whore.
>>76042567
Why doesn't he just come back to the US to be guaranteed a fair trial by the same constitution that he defends then?
His arguments would be overruled instantly because he traded state secrets for international aid (i.e. treason).
>>76033666
a #RefugeesWelcome cunt whose motives are unknown
>>76042901
It would be funny, I'll admit.
>I could imagine that some day he will just drop dead
I'd imagine that would be the most appropriate response that the Putin-led government could come up with. Hell, he's lucky. 100 years ago he'd be mock-executed then sentenced to the gulag.
>>76042046
>zero consequences about his revelation
Well that's not entirely correct though, at least people are aware that such surveillance projects exist, I'll be honest I know they will continue with most of the projects especially in times like this when we've massive boom of islamization wordwide, terrorists need to be tracked in a way or another but NSA was already walking past the line of the acceptable, massive bulk collection of personal informations of millions people, they literally hold the lives of every US citizen in their hands, in the long run this becomes very dangerous and this quote >>76040225 can't be really laughed at, 1984 it's very likely to happen and doesn't matter what government is in control 20-30 years from now: left, right, liberal or conservative or neither, they can do whatever they wanted if they've the tools/infrastructures that the current generation didn't stop/prevent from being built.
>>76043378
well I thought more about a s&w m&p being the smoking gun here instead of a makarov ;D
>>76033666
Dude's BORING AS CAT SHIT IN MY YARD.
If i had so much heat on me, i'd try to get some personality to make people listen to me.
>>76033666
>Calls America oppressive
>Moves to Russia
This guy was a Russian spy all along...
>>76043621
he moved to china in the beginning though
>>76043002
You say traded, he published secrets and went to countries that dont extradite to the US, if anything the condition of him staying in russia is that he doesnt publish anything else.
Also
>Fair Trial
>US
>A nation with secret courts
He would receive as fair a trial as assange would if he were in the US.
>>76033999
Kys, faggot
>>76043473
>s&w m&p
you and I both wish haha.
>>76043459
I'll agree that he did reveal a good part of the portion of a surveillance project that he was privy to. And I'll admit that the NSA is a seriously outdated government entity.
But he is a traitor and his revelations did exceed those occurring on US soil (making him a traitor, and not a whistle-blower). Plus the patriot act was worded specifically (and idiotically) to overstep its bounds in order to "protect" the country from terrorism.
>>76033853
>>76033990
Snowden was a russian spy..
>>76034547
>implying it's not a forced act to make people hate Patriots Same with "Manning the Tranny."
>>76043791
>published vs traded
Why else would have China and later Russia accepted him?
He clearly didn't publish everything. Someone as smart as him should have held on to some other crap as a bargaining chip.
>fair trial
for someone who is as adamant about exposing US secrets it should have been this one.
Plus, the US does actually grant a decent fair trial compared to the rest of the world. It's the actual GIVING a trial to suspected terrorists (Guantanamo Bay) that we fall behind.
>>76038042
/Fucking this
>>76033999
That's shooped you retard.
>>76038042
Let him come home so all of the Liberal cucks can demand a fair trial by his peers...
aaaaand then see him executed because he overstepped his whistle-blowing privileges into full-out treason.
>>76044754
>China accepted him
Except they didnt,
Hong kong has a clause in their extradition treaty that they will not extradite people accused of political crimes to the US, hong kong didnt accept him so much as they were legally obliged not to turn him over to american authorities, it's why he went there first.
He was then forced to leave after they rejected his assylum claim.
Russia accepted his assylum claim and also does not have an extradition treaty with the US, Ergo russia cannot legally hand him over.
The US legal system is more than fucked, your high courts vote entirely politically hence why you get your panties in a knot about who gets to pick the judges. Better yet, given both sides of politics were out for snowden's blood it would be against the judges interests to go against their parties.
As for guantanamo, half of that is a lack of a trial, the other half is trial via secret court, or as we call them kangaroo courts.
>>76045055
>whistle-blowing privileges
>US
You dont have those remember?
>>76033999
nope he isn't
Fuck off, Superpower Number two.
>Man exposes gigantic domestic spying and unconstitutional government practice at the highest levels
>Gives up cushy life to do so and ends up exiled
>Bootlickers call him a 'traitor' despite doing what any of the founders would have lauded
I bet you'd all be loyalist scum calling George Washington a 'traitor criminal' and defending the King.
>>76033666
well Satan, I think he did something he believed was right. Something that Hillary should be jailed for. Double standard that's for sure.
>>76045182
Irregardless, he did flee to China first (likely to use his bargaining chip(s) with them) before he was denied and fled to Russia.
I'll agree with you that the legal system here is fucked. But it does have its checks and balances. Plus they don't always vote for their own party's vote. The Judges are incredibly intelligent individuals and think for themselves.
>secret court
>lack of a trial
basically the same thing in the US (which is why some want to move it away from Cuba)
>>76045238
>You dont have those remember?
Under the first amendment, yes, we do.
>The United States Supreme Court ruled that public sector whistleblowers are protected under First Amendment rights from any job retaliation when they raise flags over alleged corruption
>>76045334
I bet you called Benedict Arnold a hero.
>>76042567
>foreign
>>76045334
George Washington (and many other of the founding father's) was a part of one of the first spying circles (re: one which many future Americans weren't aware of) in America's history.
NEWSFLASH:
AMERICAN POLITICAL LEADERS FOUND TO BE THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF THE BOSTON TEA PARTY. NATIVE AMERICANS HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
>>76046786
STOP THE PRESSES!!!
American rebels were found to be dressed 'in redface' during the attack.
>>76046065
> he did flee to China first
Hong Kong is not china, they have different administrations and different laws
>(likely to use his bargaining chip(s) with them)
They couldn't do shit to him without breaking their own laws, it's the reason he picked hong kong
>>76046312
>Under the first amendment, yes, we do.
>"The U.S. Supreme Court, in the case of Garcetti v. Ceballos, 04-473, ruled in 2006 that government employees do not have protection from retaliation by their employers under the First Amendment of the Constitution when they speak pursuant to their official job duties"
>"this Presidential Policy Directive ensures that employees (1) serving in the Intelligence Community or (2) who are eligible for access to classified information can effectively report waste, fraud, and abuse while protecting classified national security information. It prohibits retaliation against employees for reporting waste, fraud, and abuse"
If you're an intelligence agent you can only whistle blow on "waste, fraud and abuse"
>"The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989 was enacted to protect government employees from management retaliation, but the Supreme Court has ruled this protection only applies to government workers when the disclosure is not directly related to the job. The U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) uses agency lawyers in the place of "administrative law judges" to decide federal employees’ whistleblower appeals. These lawyers, dubbed "attorney examiners," deny 98% of whistleblower appeals"
tldr; if you're a government employee you cant whistleblow.
>>76039102
loyalist scum will never understand the idea of fidelity to the Constitution.
>>76047227
In China, autonomous territory basically means w/i the Chinese sphere of influence, hence the reason why he left for russia after a short time.
>tldr; if you're a government employee you cant whistleblow.
This isn't entirely accurate, but I do appreciate the points provided.
My main point is that Snowden exceeded the realm of whistle-blowing into the realm of treason as soon as he revealed that other countries were involved.
>>76033666
Prison, hanged for treason.
smarmy liberal with martryr complex
>>76034316
Coming from an Algerian, corrupt tribal shithole where 25% of marriages are by 1st cousins.
>>76046065
>Irregardless
STOP
>>76049356
Is this all you wish to contribute to this thread?
A comment about how I was wrong, and I'll gladly admit it, about a fucking technicality that most Americans would get wrong?
Contribute or GTFO.
>>76049744
Half of the posts ITT are shitposts, yet the one you opt to whine abut is the one telling you to stop being such a retard?
You're what's wrong with America. I bet you rally with BLM.
>>76050002
First of all, ctl-f my ID and you'll see that I've made points throughout.
There are at least 10 posts in there, a few of which actually make valid points.
PS. I think the Black Lives Matters group is the most idiotic program in existence.
