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>Raqqa June 3
https://i.imgur.com/zUdDUay.jpg
>Manbij June 3
https://i.imgur.com/0LaalMx.jpg
>South Aleppo June 3
https://i.imgur.com/ESRWPWL.jpg
>Northern Daraa June 2
https://i.imgur.com/eFQ1W8e.jpg
>Homs/Hama June 1
https://i.imgur.com/rKFZYVV.jpg
>East Homs May 31
https://i.imgur.com/yxm0RRv.jpg
>East Ghouta May 31
https://i.imgur.com/tthKskB.jpg
>Yemen May 31
https://i.imgur.com/R2yB9IG.jpg
>Mosul May 31
https://i.imgur.com/poVzfHQ.jpg
DEVELOPMENTS JUNE 3
>SDF inch closer to Islamic State stronghold of Manbij
>Syrian Army liberates Tal Barakat in northern Sweida
>Syrian Army enters Raqqa after liberating the Zakiyah Crossroad, 47 km to Tabaqa: map
>Government frontline collapses in southern Aleppo after blitz offensive by rebels
>SDF liberate three villages in northeast Aleppo
>ISIS launches massive attack at key rebel stronghold in northern Aleppo
>US parachutes weapons to rebels surrounded by ISIS in northern Aleppo
>ISIS defenses crumble in west Fallujah
>Over 20 ISIS terrorists killed in failed offensive near Baiji
Previous >>76006923
>SouthFront June 3
http://youtu.be/gwN-dSMOWs8
http://youtu.be/XXzpv71Fcjg
>>76024367
First for greater Israel
I didn't link this in hopes that the rebelshills wouldn't follow
>>76024602
ya faylaq al sham!
Reminder that we live in a simulation.
>>76024695
>we live in a simulation
>your still a loser
wew lad kys
>>76024652
Nth for s*nni genocide
>>76024779
Hey ma-
>leaf
oh neve rmind.
>>76024787
t.ahmet davotuglu
Why didn't Assad just stay in London and work as an Ophthalmologist?
A E S T H E T I C
first for abu, titan of isis
>>76025233
Because his country needed him.
>>76025126
>more Rapefugee butthurt
Have some red pill for free
You s*nnis aren't despised as subhumans around the world for no reason and that doesn't make anyone cheering for s*nni genocide a turkroach
Americas involvement in the war kinda triggers me
back in the 60s they used to fight the bad guys, the commie gooks, and Koreans and any other red scum
now they are basically fundin or on the side of whoever they used to fight. I hate the way things have gone desu
xth for Iranian dominance and roach destruction.
>>76025668
Same here. civil war fucking when
>>76025726
I thought Iranians were bros with T*rks?
>>76025785
haha no
Anyone's up for more Turk removal? This area was not located last time, but it should be near the same coords: 35°25'53.9"N 36°36'45.6"E.
That wall of concrete looks like it could be the side of an elevated road, the rock wall where you see the hole was probably covered in concrete too in the past, you can see rubble on the ground that looks like concrete pieces, thinking about it the hole in the wall could be linked to sewers since sewer systems tend to pass below roads.
From above it should look like a normal road, if we're lucky and google took the photo at a good time of the day, the shadow of the hill should be visible, 3D view could also help (simple scheme oc incoming).
>>76026190
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This is a rough scheme, here there're some live examples of the concept: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=containment+wall+road&tbs=imgo:1
>>76026190
Thats some next level triangulation son.
Wish I could help you but not much to go on that pic..
![[HorribleSubs] Bakuon!! - 06 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_11.08_[2016.05.25_20.48.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/okkqbPz.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Bakuon!! - 06 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_11.08_[2016.05.25_20.48.59].jpg")
>>76025668
Doesn't that make you think that they were always the bad guys and history is distorted with their propaganda to make them look like the good guys?
>>76025775
just watched full metal jacket. those were the days.
Trump presidency when? better dead than red
>>76026440
it should be similar to this, but yeah it's hard to locate stuff like this because all we've is aerial view.
>>76026190
It will be really hard to find with that picture, I saw the video and gave up. There aren't enough things around to locate it, even if we find it we may not be able to verify it correctly.
>>76026190
I don't think there is a point to this. There don't appear to be any hard targets.
>>76025384
t.mehmet ahmet
Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel
Breaking: Syrian Army liberates their first village in west Raqqa. They are 35 km southwest of Tabaqa!
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-liberates-first-village-west-raqqa/
SAA and Hezbollah getting BTFO.
Hohol says over 100 dead and maybe as many captured.
What happened?
>>76026997
The tunnel is kinda important though, that's what they use to flee and move militants/weapons around.
>>76025726
>but..mu..muh secularism
>You are walking down the street and this alpha bastard slaps your waifu's ass
>what do?
>>76027429
Call him out for being a TripFag
>>76027216
rip saa
>>76027262
>fight for me or the sunnis will kill you !
>gets captured and beheaded
JUST
>>76027429
>alpha
haha lol this slackjawed giraffe looking beta
Greater Syria, the harder you meme for it, the likelier it will become a reality.
![[HorribleSubs] Anne Happy - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_04.03_[2016.06.03_00.47.27].png](https://i.imgur.com/eBzmziM.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Anne Happy - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_04.03_[2016.06.03_00.47.27].png")
where the fuck is chilebro? this thread is boring today
>>76027262
https://j.gifs.com/mZgxY0.gif
Don't bomb me while sleeping,hahhahah
>>76027524
Is that you irl for real tho?
![[HorribleSubs] Bakuon!! - 09 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_21.26_[2016.06.03_20.41.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CKfXWBJ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Bakuon!! - 09 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_21.26_[2016.06.03_20.41.02].jpg")
>>76027429
Thank him for protecting the syrian people.
Alright, let's throw in some hypothetical questions....
You have just moved to Syria for the intended purpose to make it a great nation again. What do you do? Create jobs? Engage in charity? Try to engage in government reform? Fight on the front lines? Build churches and establish a religious base? Other?
>>76026887
The image quality isn't very good either, I guess I'll have to pass on this. Potentially it could be something like this, if only google had a little higher res photos.
>>76027524
Get the fuck off fucking whore
>>76027429
I don't have a girlfriend.
>>76027760
yo if you're bored I accidentally found something last night that is potentially a massive red pill. if you're interested where can I send you the links? this can be a massive story.
>>76028249
Why not just post it.
>>76028355
its not directly related to this topic and Im doing deeper investigation, I just was hoping maybe you have free time to help me on it. then if its true we can post in on /pol/
>>76028520
90% of /sg/ isn't on topic
>>76028520
with wordpress you can create a private blog for your project, like that in op if you want: https://en.wordpress.com it's free.
>>76027166
t. Inbred goatfucker
![[HorribleSubs] Anne Happy - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.13_[2016.06.03_01.02.03].png](https://i.imgur.com/X5FWzK2.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Anne Happy - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.13_[2016.06.03_01.02.03].png")
/sg/ is shit today
>>76028757
its not a shitpost it can be big
>>76028793
no need to really
I need someone to approve my logic behind the story before publishing.
can we set up a private steam group or telegram group?
>>76028795
>Picture
What the hell man?! No wonder arabs are incapable of having stable governments, a functional army, and relative peace.
Anyone got the pic of us helping to coordinate airstrikes?
>>76029104
i can set the steam group too private
>>76028249
Is it that Khomeini CIA thing that was on plebbit yesterday?
>>76029137
>>76029211
ty share it here plz
>>76029228
no its about recent events
>>76029250
Thanks, we did good that day
>>76029352
in the OP
>>76029352
just post it you attention whore
>>76029555
I will join as soon as I setup a temporary steam acc
>>76029672
use a proxy if you're scared of being traced
https://www.sslproxies.org/
>>76029672
you could use pastebin too by the way
>>76024367
Don't mind me, just want to say good luck Basher the lion.
>>76030674
The man is right... France and other countries have suffered from terrorism and it is all because of the West's support for the very terrorists they keep arming and funding.
>>76029920
ty I have tones none works on 4chan though
shit cant join the chat without buying a game
>>76030423
where can we live chat then? is it possible
I will setup a telegram group and will share here join if you like to help
>>76031220
What's even more sad is that nobody want to admit it, people generally think that all these attacks are just random with little to no reason behind them, or the average person here in the states would say something along the lines of "Because of our freedom", is why these attacks are happening.
Leave them alone and they leave you alone, it's that simple.
Copa America is about to start. See you tomorrow /sg/
>>76031550
just download a free game like war thunder or something
>>76031550
chatango is free and easy to use, though I didn't personally use it since 2014.
>>76031626
the fuck is that?
>>76031746
A football soccer tournament. Its usually held in South America with only south american teams + mexico + jamaica, but this year it will be in USA and will include more north american teams.
>>76024511
>>76031877
oh cool
https://telegram.me/joinchat/BX0i-whEKuRv9JZisHKYgQ
>>76031685
I have dota 2 installed not helping
I have not a security problem I just want it to private to handful of /sg/ members
It might be shit not more than a theory at the moment
>>76031877
>north america
>soccer
dat's almost like a nigger in a ski jumping hill
>>76031941
>telegram
>>76031616
Damn right.
>>76032180
is it that bad? its temporary for an investigation on a story
>>76031941
Can I join telegram without using my real phone number?
>>76025775
YES! NORSE DETECTED
To much whale blood in the threads today, I think their natural instincts have kicked in over there.
Soon you will see them starting beating swedes in streetfights again
>>76031877
>divegrass
>>76032335
I guess if you join a group and you have a user name with @ it will only show your user name and not the phone name
if there is a better way like kik and such plaese share
Im only suggesting telegram since /sg/ has a telegram group
>>76025775
also that white part to the top right(markland), baffin island(helluland) and newfoundland(vinland) are Harald's clay by treaty.
>>76032531
you can have them when we win the next civil war
>>76032527
Why not just start a thread on a dead chan and delete it when you're done?
>>76032527
this group chat is very simple and doesn't require much to register: https://chatango.com/signupdir
>>76032257
if you want to remain anonymous, I would suggest another service.
But if it's just shitposting then no worries
>>76032646
We have our own to fight here too, breaking out in a nordic war to liberate provinces annexed by sweden and remove kebab and... oslo.. grr.. Gothenburg will be lvled.. new city
>Konghelle will be great again
>>76032887
forgot pic.
They better learn Ja vi elsker those damn swedes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLjIyL4gWtg
But I leave you guys to it..
>>76032694
I have no idea about dead chan
make a tread and give me the link Imma post my links there
>>76032706
made an acc how should I add you guys there
>>76032723
Ive deleted the group
>>76033230
>made an acc how should I add you guys there
go to username.chatango.com and you can send messages to other users and add them, but I'm not sure it still works like this, I really didn't use it in a long time, I don't have an account anymore.
fuck it this is getting too long
Imma post everything here there is not much and this thread is already ruined (sorry Minsesota)
so as you guys know there is war on who gets the control on energy resources is going on
yesterday I was reading this article on Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-01/saudis-said-to-seek-restoration-of-opec-unity-after-doha-failure-iowrk295
>>76033584
Use this group
http://syriageneral.chatango.com/
its a long article
then I got to this paragraph:
Market Balancing
After 2 1/2 years of oversupply, oil traders also see signs supply and demand are getting close to being in balance. Disruptions in Canada and Nigeria took 50 million barrels out of the market last month, Geneva-based trading house Mercuria Energy Group Ltd. estimated.
>Disruptions in Canada and Nigeria
this is about Nigeria, its about vandals:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/203515-vandals-cut-nigerias-oil-production-800000-barrels-per-day-kachikwu.html
and the other country is Canada
there has been a wildfire and I was looking at some 4chan thread in the past about how Canadian PM was not paying much attention about it.
>>76033230
That signal app got a backdoor into it too, I haven't messed around with it. But you saw it after one of the terror shits, german auth ordered to get unencrypted msgs and they did.
But again, I dunno how paranoid this is.. and right now I gtg sleep...
Good luck, sorry that I can't come up with anything other than making an email acnt, a gpg2 key and start to msg with someone 1:1.. lol .. only shit safe.. nah there got to be something there, I can't share my shit unfortunately
my theory is they didnt want to control wildfire
they wanted to damage oil output in canada
to make oil prices go higher.
I dont know how you guys are familiar with what is going on in OPEC for past 2-3 years if you have questions ask please
>>76034039
>wildfire
I remember that one, he refused help from other countries who offered assistance like mexico and the us, it was a mess.
Hi /sg/, there was a youtube link posted here a while back about Russia's intervention. It started with an interview of Putin after the Sinai bombing and had footage of Russian air strikes. Anyone have it? The title was in Cyrillic...
>>76034208
no shit, the NDP (marxists) control alberta, of course they want to destroy the biggest revenue source of canada, its a symbol of capitalism
>>76034208
>Russia, USA and Mexico offer help to control fire
>Canada refuses
>Canada brings fucking south africans to control the fire
I think its just liberal nonsense.
>>76034208
Or Trudeau is just a retard. Canada is not a member of OPEC and Canadian oil has already been suffering from high costs of production. The low price of oil has hurt Canadian producers worse than frackers. There is no reason to unleash the fire when market forces will do the job for you.
>>76034208
Pretty sure they could get more money by selling the oil rather than destroying it
>>76034467
>Canada is not a member of OPEC
Im aware of that let me talk about this energy war and recent opec events that has been going on then
>>76034550
Canada has sand oil this business needs higher oil prices to be profitable but the story is even bigger than this
so what is going on in oil market
as you guys may remember couple of years ago suadis has started to over produce oil to decline oil prices so they can hit the Russian Siberia oil produce also irans economy
this plan has failed it took too long and now backfired its damageing their economy therefore petrodollars and dollar itself and us and world ecnomy who are depended on price of dollar
until past year they we against putting a cap on opec oil out put
but its been about 9 months or so they are begging for it in opec meetings and Iran is refusing it
last time they gathered in Qatar and for first time in history even invited Russians to table, it failed
>>76034646
They don't need the fire to damage oil production. Low prices already forced most North American oil companies to lower their production costs.
Iraq is breaking its record oil output
Russians recently are producing more than Saudi Arabia
we are refusing to stop producing until we get where we were before sanctions
even yesterday opec meeting has failed
![[HorribleSubs] Bakuon!! - 08 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_21.51_[2016.05.28_22.51.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ArtYrPC.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Bakuon!! - 08 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_21.51_[2016.05.28_22.51.40].jpg")
>>76034963
>Iran is refusing it
Based Iran
>>76034963
Russia has some of the lowest production costs in the world and they benefit from a weak Rouble, which makes their production insanely cheap. The recent refusal to cap production is a result of the Saudi conflict with Iran.
>>76035082
I say they are using vandalism to make prices go higher.
and by this they can save dollar value and save the economy of countries that are based on it
>>76033230
http://www.5chan.org/
This chan is kind of weird because the url doesnt change.
Anyway, its the /edge/ board on the left side.
Last post was 4 days ago so idoubt anyone will notice if we burrow their site for a bit.
>>76035160
I had read before that the Saudis were always fucked on OPEC decisions. That every time OPEC decided to lower their oil production, no one did except the saudis, and that this time they get mad and thats the reason they increased oil production. But then it backfired and are trying to convince everyone to lower production.
>>76035160
The whole point of maintaining high production is to hit Iran.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-05-26/saudi-looks-to-limit-iran-s-rise
>>76035326
our block russia iran iraq china wants to reduce the prices to put pressure on saudi and west about syria and other conflicts china sea etc
your block US SA and related countries need higher oil prices right now
saudies economy is already in struggle
you're economy is highly related on petrodollars this day isnt it?
>>76035471
that was until a year or so ago now this plan backfired
we have been going under reforms 4 years ago to deafet this
now its suadies that are going under reforms and they are begging in opec for a production cap
go to bloomberg and read articles about opec
>Syrian Army enters Raqqa after liberating the Zakiyah Crossroad, 47 km to Tabaqa: map
wat, is ISIS losing their capital?
my whole point is Canada wildfire was vandalism and Canadian government risked its people life and assets with not acting efficiently just to help west on value of oil and dollar.
>>76035534
The status of the dollar as a reserve currency has nothing to do with this. China benefits from low oil prices because it is a huge importer. Iraq needs high oil prices because they have a huge budget shortfall, Russia too. I can't find the link, but I read an article that quoted the prince in charge of the economic reforms in Saudi Arabia saying that he doesn't care about low oil prices and they hurt Iran more than they hurt Saudi Arabia. There was an article saying that he intervened to prevent any production caps without Iran. I'll find the links.
>>76035703
SAA and YPG clashed when?
>>76035471
>The International Monetary Fund recently warned most countries in the region will run out of cash in five years or less if oil stays around $50 a barrel. That includes Saudi Arabia as well as Oman and Bahrain.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/30/investing/saudi-arabia-downgrade-oil-prices-opec/
>The Saudi’s strategy of not reducing production is finally starting to fail, helped along by the Yemen War, which has now entered the costly boots on the ground stage.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/05/saudi-arabia-loses-the-oil-war/
>The Financial Times reports Saudi Arabia could increase debt levels as high as 50% of gross domestic product within five years
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2015/11/10/saudi-arabia-preparing-to-fuel-its-100-billion-oil-war-with-debt/
Saudi Arabia economy will crash before Iran. Because Saudis are 100% dependent on oil, iran has other things.
>>76035842
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-04-21/the-2-trillion-project-to-get-saudi-arabia-s-economy-off-oil
>The likely future king of Saudi Arabia says he doesn’t care if oil prices rise or fall. If they go up, that means more money for nonoil investments, he says. If they go down, Saudi Arabia, as the world’s lowest-cost producer, can expand in the growing Asian market. The deputy crown prince is essentially disavowing decades of Saudi oil doctrine as the leader of OPEC. He scuttled a proposed freeze of oil production on April 17 at a suppliers’ meeting in Qatar because archrival Iran wouldn’t participate. Observers saw it as extremely rare interference by a member of the royal family, which has traditionally given the technocrats at the Petroleum Ministry ample room for maneuver on oil policy. “We don’t care about oil prices—$30 or $70, they are all the same to us,” he says. “This battle is not my battle.”
>>76035703
Raqqa is the name of the whole province I believe
>>76035927
> China benefits from low oil prices because it is a huge importer. Iraq needs high oil prices because they have a huge budget shortfall, Russia too.
now this block has an opportunity to put pressure on US
why because we devalued our currency we give china the oil they need with even lower prices that you can get in market
look at what they are doing in china sea
and north korea recent activities
and your war on value of currency with china
they are trying to damage US
>>76036124
He said that just for propaganda, but the reality is Saudis can't keep their extensive welfare program with low oil prices. See >>76035993 They will either have to fuck their people by taking out welfare or do something to increase oil prices.
>>76036124
well he is under pressure to do reforms look at the other Bloomberg articles
dont listen to what he says look at what is going on
moody`s has decline their economy grade
they have 100b$ budget deficit
they have recently got a 8b$ loan
I can give links about all of these
>>76036313
I still don't get why we need higher oil prices. Sure, it hurts fracking, but there are a million other industries in the US. How exactly does low oil prices hurt the US
>>76036340
no shit they just made huge welfare cuts
>>76035993
turkey will just replace saudi as the leader of sunnis
>>76036685
>I still don't get why we need higher oil prices
well Ive read claims on this many on 4chan that how saudi petrodollar are essential in US economy and wall street banks and stock market, this is what I need to investigate more on.
but I can tell you this
US has started a war in middle east
Iraq labia Syria and then Iran was on the line
just to take control of energy resources here.
now their best ally in decades suadi Arabia is going under.
and you dont have much control in Iraq ether, their government is closer to Russians that ever.
so why shouldn't you save SA?
all we know that SA is your ally in opec isnt it?
now they are begging fore production cap.
>>76037082
+10 lira
>>76025775
>sub par hockey players who sound like lobotomized Canadians want their own country
Kek
>>76037511
its true turkey is the biggest player in the ME without oil
>>76037644
>what
>is
>israel
>>76037420
How is Iran concerning food. do you produce most of your grain, meat, milk etc or so you import big quantities of something?
>>76037420
so you're saying that in order to save Saudi Arabia, the United States wants to raise oil prices. That contradicts actions by Saudi Arabia.
>The deputy crown prince is essentially disavowing decades of Saudi oil doctrine as the leader of OPEC. He scuttled a proposed freeze of oil production on April 17 at a suppliers’ meeting in Qatar because archrival Iran wouldn’t participate. Observers saw it as extremely rare interference by a member of the royal family, which has traditionally given the technocrats at the Petroleum Ministry ample room for maneuver on oil policy
I don't think Saudi Arabia is headed for collapse due to budgetary reasons alone. All of these projections of bankruptcy are assuming that the war in yemen continues, and there are no changes made to the welfare benefits. The Saudis survived a decade of low oil prices in the 90s and they can do it again. The only danger is that ISIS launches attacks against Saudi Arabia, which in conjunction with low oil prices would lead to a revolt. The same situation already happened however. AQAP tried to overthrow the Saudi Government and what happened was that everyone closed ranks and eliminated the terrorists. Even though it's an unpopular opinion, the Saudi government is pretty stable right now. The biggest threat by far is disruption from the economic reforms
>>76038004
turkey is superior to israel in military and economy
butthurt ex ottoman colony
israel will need turkey more than ever after saudi falls
>>76035703
nobody really knows, the US is aiding the kurds to enter raqqa, but still we can't say for sure if they are loosing.
>>76037644
+20 lira!!!
>>76038137
>getting payed for stating facts
i wish buddy -_-
>>76038300
God bless sham legion.
>>76038088
kek
>>76038235
>i-its a f-fact
+40 lira
>>76038009
they trade with russia, grain for petrol.
>>76038300
>Wasting ATGMs on soft targets
Fucking arabs.
>>76038063
>the Saudi government is pretty stable right now
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-16/after-41-years-saudi-arabia-s-treasuries-holdings-are-unveiled
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-29/saudi-arabia-s-net-foreign-assets-fall-to-four-year-low-in-april
so youre saying all the recent events are normal?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/17/us/document-saudi-memos-9-11.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/politics/senate-passes-bill-that-would-expose-saudi-arabia-to-legal-jeopardy-over-9-11.html
http://www.newsweek.com/september-11-victims-sue-saudi-arabia-bill-passes-460916
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/280188-aide-difficult-to-imagine-obama-signing-saudi-9-11-bill
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/17/senate-approves-sept-11-legislation-despite-saudi-threats.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-passes-bill-allowing-911-victims-to-sue-saudi-arabia/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-16/after-41-years-saudi-arabia-s-treasuries-holdings-are-unveiled
https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-concludes-review-on-three-Saudi-GRIs--PR_348978
http://www.newsmax.com/US/Bolton-Cats-Roundtable-911-report/2016/04/24/id/725489/
>The biggest threat by far is disruption from the economic reforms
yes pretty much and there is a game of power going on in their family too
the king is old and last of his brothers
he has put his son is charge and a nephew is declared crown prince and they are not getting along well
>Turkish girls
>>76038672
they have a LOT of those tows+ they are encouraged to make videos for every tow shot, for the US so they can prove they used it properly and not sold to isis.
is effective don't you think ? how many did they take out ? 6 in one shot ? sounds like a good shot.
>>76038672
Its basically free for them. USA will just give them more.
>>76038009
somehow on the edge of food dependency but some years drought hits and we import grain from Canada Germany but this can be replaced with other countries like china or India(?) we have great relations with India too.
this is what I remember though
>>76038966
doubt they took out more than two or three plus wounded. no fragmentation on that warhead. lot of punctured eardrums though i'm sure.
why is this retard war still going on?
who is winning.
who is even fighting?
>>76038919
Hell yes. Anzujaamu.
>>76039299
>why is this retard war still going on?
Tell obongo to stop sending weapons to the rebels and it will be over in 1 year.
>>76038063
take a look at this, I know these videos are usually bullshit but when you look at the recent events...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K20fm2166WM
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/world-war-3-new-axis
>>76039299
>>76039650
you too
>>76039629
i don't think he'd listen to me.
it's funny though how he can blow up a hospital and then complain about Trump's divisive tweets.
Also Ukraine is rightful Russian clay.
>>76038897
nothing is going to come of the lawsuits. the russian government has been under lawsuit for the past years over what they did to khodorkhovsky and yukos and nothing has come of that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukos_shareholders_vs._Russia#Enforcement
Additionally, not much information was revealed from the treasury being forced to unveil saudi holdings. most of their holdings are thought to be held overseas and not counted in the official notes.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-16/u-s-discloses-saudi-arabia-s-treasuries-holdings-for-first-time
>Yet the disclosure may bring more questions than answers, because Saudi Arabia’s foreign reserves amount to $587 billion, and central banks typically put about two-thirds of their coffers in dollars, according to International Monetary Fund data. Some nations accumulate Treasuries in offshore financial centers, meaning the holdings show up under the data of other countries.
even though public opinion in the US is really against saudi arabia, since when has public opinion effected government choices? Moreover, none of this is likely to have any effect on ordinary saudis. it might even increase the popularity of the monarchy because people feel like they're under attack from the US
bump from 7th page
reminder that assad and you are all war criminals
>>76034356
Bumping for this again, come on /sg/...we killed takfiris, get me a link.
>>76040148
>nothing is going to come of the lawsuits.
I agree with this, the documents came out hours after Vienna Syrian peace talks and from out come and news of that day you can see that suaides didnt agree on it and united states was trying to put more pressure on them to accept the agreement.
>Saudi Arabia’s foreign reserves amount to $587 billion
you hear this number everyday yet last yar this was a higher number they have lost around 100b$ because of their budget deficits .
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-29/saudi-arabia-s-net-foreign-assets-fall-to-four-year-low-in-april
>even though public opinion in the US is really against saudi arabia, since when has public opinion effected government choices?
of cource your government is holding suaides in power there is no doubt with this
>it might even increase the popularity of the monarchy because people feel like they're under attack from the US
this is where youre making a mistake
their population are not going to unite under suadi family when they benefits get cut
almost half are foraging people working there if you read shaikh`s reforms he says maybe we end their visas and make saudi people do the normal working class jobs.
many are extremist wahabist that dont even believe in suadi family they were followers of abdul whab who has found the saudi arabia with saudi family and then suadi family killed him
his interview that this article is based on is almost funny and not heroic as it sounds in bloomberg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01hZsHaT0zU
this one is with Bloomberg but Im trying to find the one that he was talking with interviewer himself and as he was announcing things like a saudi tourism reform the interviewer was asking funny questions like who is going to come to suadi for tourism!
>>76040958
if they're all extremely religious than it doesn't matter what the poeple think of the monarchy. the only thing that matters is what the clerics think because the people will do what the priests tell them to, and the clergy have a history of being bought off by spending on religious stuff. i think the biggest dangers are demographics and economics. almost everybody is young and they all have tons of kids with no jobs, which the prince is trying to address. they need to decrease the birthrate though, or it will end up like tunisia and egypt with the youth revolting
relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE6CTZMgi0k
good night fags
>>76041695
what am trying to say is this is already late for this kinda reforms
and putting 2T$ on 5% aramco stocks and going with IPO was laughed at when announced
since its a state company and when you look at when russian state company went IPO you can see the real price.
also their economy credit ratings has fallen recently
>>76042074
are you saying that the only outcome for saudi arabia is war?
>>76038919
She is cute. I'd gladly waifu4laifu her if you know what i mean ;)
>>76042200
this is really hard to predict
I think we need to wait and see who is gonna be next US president. hillary campaign is funding by them so I dont trust on anything that hillary says on her speechs
but trump this is intresting
he said he wants new negotiations with Iran and I think he want us to be next suadi arabia for US
selling US oil and getting dollars. which now is not happening.
he also said lets lift arms embargo on iran and selll them what they want cuz he knows we want to buy sukhoi fighters from russia.
if hillary wins I guess you guys will enter a war with middle east again with boots on the ground but as I said its now soon to predict.
>>76042556
I've seen some trump interviews where he says he wants to help saudi arabia against iran. I'm not sure if he is really on your side, I hope he is, your country is better than saudi scum.
>>76042556
can iran really replace saudi arabia though? saudi arabia has the largest oil reserves in the world and they control opec. even at peak production, iran isnt even close to saudi arabia. 6 million vs 10 million barrels/day. also, would iran be willing to switch to selling in us$ and upend their existing contracts with china? the only way foreward for saudi arabia and the us is to keep being allies, even if we hate eachother, otherwise the petrodollar will die. im not sure what currency could even replace the petrodollar
>>76043015
trump has been interviewing for a year now and a lot has changed since and his positions has changed accordingly.
I brought that up since 3-4 days ago our foreign minster has answered Mr trump and said there will be no new negations.
as Ive said this not easy to predict I guess it was easier for you to attack us bottom line but then there is Iran deal that has been signed months ago.
if you listened to trump he keeps saying united states but intervening in middle east made Iran more powerful he is not wrong. we were in line to get attacked next but you guys but this strategy has failed so far
watch this >>76039650
fuck those roaches
>>76043412
>can iran really replace saudi arabia though?
no not at all we are in a bloke with china and russia
>saudi arabia control opec
I think recent events that I mentioned above shows this is not true anymore
>would iran be willing to switch to selling in us$
welll dollars can be used globally any country will accept dollar as currency to deal with
>the only way foreward for saudi arabia and the us is to keep being allies, even if we hate eachother, otherwise the petrodollar will die. im not sure what currency could even replace the petrodollar
this is why I started this conversation at the beginning
Ive said I think Canada wildfire was vandalism to make oil prices go up
>>76038652
Who is sending grain to whom? Cause Russia sells oil and grain as well.
>>76043613
that video is not very good. first of all, saudi arabia will not be geographically isolated. they jsut announced plans to build a bridge across the red sea and egypt gave them two islands in the red sea.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/saudi-arabia-egypt-announce-bridge-red-sea-160409032158790.html
second of all, switching from the petrodollar would cause inflation, decrease the value of the dollar and thus decrease the value of the saudi foreign reserves. they need the petrodollar as much as we do. moreover, what currency are they going to switch to? the eurozone have really unfriendly policies towards gas cars, with norway recently announcing that gas cars will no longer be sold after 2025. i dont know much about the yuan so im not going to say anything. also, theres no public will to fight a war. if obama announced that we were invading the middle east there would be a revolt. everybody is exhausted from the war in iraq.
>>76027737
It will never become reality, mate
kek doesn't will it
>>76037559
a fucking LEAF
>>76044792
>that video is not very good
it has also good point and gives a better view to rookies that are interested in this topic.
>saudi arabia will not be geographically isolated.
thats not a problem what I was saying is if oil prices remain low there will be an uprising there
you may remember arab spring it also hit the suadi back then they increased salaries and handed out lots of benefits to people
this is one of the reasons they have 100b$ budget deficits
also they paid egypt and bought islands egyptain people are not happy with these floated internet with memes about it . egypt economy is shit
>second of all, switching from the petrodollar would cause inflation, decrease the value of the dollar and thus decrease the value of the saudi foreign reserves.
this is why I said they need higher oil prices and claimed maybe canada wilfire was vandalism at first point here
>>76033832
>>76034039
>>76034208
>the eurozone have really unfriendly policies towards gas cars, with norway recently announcing that gas cars will no longer be sold after 2025
one of the reasons syrian war was started was this, you say gas but you mean petrol right?
building a gas pipline connecting iran`s south pars gas field to Eu which is biggest in the world. its more environmentally friendly
gas as gas not oil.
>theres no public will to fight a war. if obama announced that we were invading the middle east there would be a revolt. everybody is exhausted from the war in iraq.
this is another reason that your government stuck in a bad situation right now
people wont buy more lies to invade middle east
yet you need to or else us and russia and china will control the world energy not US
soup /sg/ - been a busy day and i've been unable to follow - what's happening in south aleppo?
2009 http://www.thenational.ae/business/energy/qatar-seeks-gas-pipeline-to-turkey
this proposed
Assad didnt agree on it then later in 2011:
http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424053111903591104576467631289250392?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424053111903591104576467631289250392.html
this made saudi and qatar mad one of the reasons war has started.
whole reason of this war is who is gonna take control of middle east`s energy resources.
like every other modern war that you guys were involved in here
What's been going on here recently?
Lot's of shils and shitposters.
>>76046167
Afghans and militias got fucked.
>>76046525
denying the fact that energy resources are main reason for constant conflict in the region for the past 30 years is pure ignorance and shilling in my opinion
>>76046878
fug, thx for the map. that's a grip of land right there. talk about getting BTFO
>>76034039
Iran
There has also been attacks on infrastructure in Sweden and America but that has been in power and communication equipment
On phone so no links but is easily google
>>76046998
JaF did their usual tanks + BMPs rush. I have no idea why the Iraqis and Afghans couldn't fend it off, JaN showed a bunch of ATGMs that they had captured.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d8ejMR7ViY
>>76046913
and now your ally suadi has a young deputy crown prince that is in charge of everything and wont listen to you or older suadi officials like ali naimi former suadi head of oil affairs a well known man in oil market just because he was not agree with the reforms.
and wont listen to you on syrian or yemeni peace talks and is going to bring down you guys with them. or at least damage your economy too.
>>76047022
Im telling you guys something fishy is going on
why Canadian government didnt take action about wildfire for days. remember posts on 4chan in past weeks?
>>76043613
>you listened to trump he keeps saying united states but intervening in middle east made Iran more powerful he is not wrong.
we've had 8 years of idiot forigen policy and before that we had 8 years of "so profoundly retarded its surprising these people didn't occasionally die of starvation waiting for stopsigns to turn green" foreign policy so its no surprise.
>>76046016
>yet you need to or else us and russia and china will control the world energy not US
Major advances in fracking technology have made the US itself a big energy producer again. It wont be our balls they put in a vice like that.
Just because the realpolitik reasoning is lessening doesn't mean America can actually walk away. As you say, you have to persuade/propaganda/lie the populace to be involved in this shit and some people who really believe such shit sometimes get jobs in government. Then they get promoted, gain credibility, become advisers, become politicians themselves, etc. Instead of "we will tell people that spreading and supporting secular democracy in the middle east is key to world development so they will let us keep energy supplies secure" the halls of power slowly accumulate people who think "reading and supporting secular democracy in the middle east is key to world development"
The serpent swallows its tongue.
>>76047372
see
>>76035082
ur being paranoid
>>76047372
it was just a fuckup by trudeau
>>76047231
i have no say in what my government does - believe me that i'm well aware that we are beyond fucked after being in bed with those salafist shit stains
>>76047592
give me time to find oil breaking point prices by type of fracking, well location etc in different countries.
bloomberg clearly said what I said here:
Market Balancing
After 2 1/2 years of oversupply, oil traders also see signs supply and demand are getting close to being in balance. Disruptions in Canada and Nigeria took 50 million barrels out of the market last month, Geneva-based trading house Mercuria Energy Group Ltd. estimated.
maybe youre right Im not saying Im a god but there is a possibility
>>76048015
find the breakeven point for offshore drillers like angola, arctic sea and north sea oil and ull see what i mean. producers outside of those 2 have been effected
>>76047372
I think Anerican attacks are to help US gov secure control over nations power grid and Sweden attacks are to get Swedrn into NATO and agitate against Russia or at least this is how the elites are fitting these happenings into their previous plans
Who knows if there are guerrilla groups or disgruntled loners though? No one has been caught yet
>>76035082
>North American oil companies to lower their production costs.
wait a min did you say cost or out put?
cuz if you mean cost this mean they can produce more and this itself will decrease oil prices in market and this is bad for SA
>>76048586
costs, the government in the us has no control over business. production has fallen as a result, but not as much as SA expected
>>76048586
Sorry for question out of topic but
How do i get Persian gf? Why is it so hard ?
>>76048586
Atu kurdi?
>>76048738
lower cost of fracking production is the worst thing that can happen for now for geopolitical reason
cuz this means many of these private companies will start to produce more and this means oil prices will fall even more.
>the government in the us has no control over business
so youre approving my whole point
they cant control private companies so what they do they wont stop the fire and let those infrastructures get damaged so prices go up and this geopolitical helps whole west us Canada and US
>>76048786
Ive tot you already is working on that with your kurd internet friend
>>76048810
nope sorry
>>76049054
ur missing the whole fucking point. production is still falling in the us. a lot of the production right now is wells that have already been driled and there is only a finite number of those wells. moreover, many of the small oil companies are going bankrupt, further decreasing production. places with high costs of production like offshore drilling have been cutting back on production. shell recently canceled a project in the arctic sea. the whole point of this is that oil production is naturally falling due to the low prices. SA and other countries have no reason to damage infrastructure because that production is falling already. why would u shoot a man when hes about to die from cancer? there is literally no gain, and it would only make people hate SA even more. ur reaching so far for something thats not even there
>>76049054
moshkelam nun nist, ab nist, bargh nist
moshkelam shekastane telesme tanhaist
agheghunast
yek roozi ham hal mishe
ya ke az baaresh zaanuye man kham mishe
muselim scuem
>>76049440
>. a lot of the production right now is wells that have already been driled and there is only a finite number of those wells. moreover, many of the small oil companies are going bankrupt, further decreasing production. places with high costs of production like offshore drilling have been cutting back on production. shell recently canceled a project in the arctic sea. the whole point of this is that oil production is naturally falling due to the low prices.
I agree with this whole statement this is true
yet oil market tends to react to smallest thing
Im looking at the issue at the other way as the beginning
Ive stated this: whwont you let oil infrastructure that is not profitable burn when you know market will react and oil prices will go up a bit to help your oil producing ally in middle east?
>A and other countries have no reason to damage infrastructure because that production is falling already.
[Forwarded from We believe in nothing]
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/203515-vandals-cut-nigerias-oil-production-800000-barrels-per-day-kachikwu.html
when you're struggling you do
also before last opec meeting in qatar there was a Strike in Kuwait oil company to make prices go up a little too
bottom line I hope you wil be right and I be paranoid
>>76049617
you act like this in front of a girl you lose whole game no one has time for loneliness bulshit be a man
>>76050192
Dude, it was from song :D i am not like that
>>76050192
why wont you let oil infrastructure that is not profitable burn when you know market will react and oil prices will go up a bit to help your oil producing ally in middle east?*
>>76050285
the nigeria thing has been going on for decades. the western companies used to hire paramilitaries to punish the people for vandalism.
>why wont you let oil infrastructure that is not profitable burn when you know market will react and oil prices will go up a bit to help your oil producing ally in middle east?*
the oil companies are going to lose tons of money from that. infrastructure and heavy machinery is really expensive. also, it hurts the economy and canada, especially alberta, has its economy in the shitter right now. if ur suggesting that the us influenced canada to let it burn i think that the negatives of intentionally letting the fire burn outweigh the benefits of helping the us. no sane person would make that choice. the only way to get trudeau to let the fire burn would be to threaten him, which would make canada move away from the us, which is something the us doesnt want
>>76051008
1 million hours in paint
>>76051008
>alberta
kill alberta save rest of the west?
>the only way to get Trudeau to let the fire burn would be to threaten him, which would make canada move away from the us, which is something the us doesnt want
there is so much more on the stack the elites around Trudeau know this
>>76051507
if u raise the price of oil, shale companies are going to boot up again and push the price back down. im pretty sure theres a permanent cap on the maximum price of oil around $50-70 now that fracking exists. literally the only thing SA can do is buy up oilfields in the US and try to prevent fracking from ever occuring
>>76027546
nice proxy roach
>>76051817
>if u raise the price of oil, shale companies are going to boot up again and push the price back down
Ive told you this mean another decline of prices and this is will be bad right now for geopolitical reasons especially in middle east.
>literally the only thing SA can do is buy up oilfields in the US and try to prevent fracking from ever occuring
this isnt only their problem this is your problem too.
and I know billionaires in US were going around buying those now unprofitable failed small companies that you mentioned to add them to their assets so when oil prices go up they can make millions out of them
these billionaires can take this risk
>>76028249
>>76028520
Iranbro - Join this telegram if you wan't to discuss whatever you're talking about
https://telegram.me/joinchat/CTL8-T9UU6N_HP6t2TRKWA>>76028249
>>76052052
my point is its a lose-lose situation no matter what the us government does. theres no point to burning production because there are simply too many obstacles that make raising the price of oil really hard
>Ive told you this mean another decline of prices and this is will be bad right now for geopolitical reasons especially in middle east.
no shit but theres nothing the us government can do about it.
>>76052256
>my point is its a lose-lose situation no matter what the us government does.
every small bit helps in today's market
as Ive said iraq is breaking its production record russian are producing more than SA and Iran is going to get to its maximum production
>theres nothing the us government can do about it.
government cant order private companies what to do but what they can is not to stop a wildfire and let it burn some oil related properties
and I believe those company owners wouldnt mind much too
burn the unprofitable asset (a debt) get money from insurance go have a party
everybody wins but working class people and who cares about them anyway
>>76047205
JaN propaganda > ISIS propaganda
>>76052227
thx dude I pass
this guy >>76052256
that Im talking to is satisfying enough
>>76052601
drops in the ocean
http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2015/12/03/oil-tankers-iran-exports/
>In fact, there are now more than 100 million barrels of oil floating at sea! That’s more than double the level seen earlier this year.
>>76052880
every single one of those ships is waiting for oil to reach a certain price and then theyre going to sell. i cant think of a single action the us could take that would be enough to raise oil prices enough to make a difference for SA. the best thing to do is just let market forces work
>>76052880
>>76053011
yes and we (iran iraq russia china) are continuing to produce more and more to keep oil prices down to damage SA (and
maybe US)
>i cant think of a single action the us could take that would be enough to raise oil prices enough to make a difference for SA. the best thing to do is just let market forces work
you will start the big war or trump comes and negotiate with Russia, Iran and china
later is more unlikely
3rd possibility is that you lose the control of energy resources of middle east
A dollar less in Saudi Arabia's pocket is a dollar less going to terrorists who mean us ill.
I for one will not shed a tear for them.
>>76053305
the main reason why SA decided to produce so much oil is to bankrupt US oil companies and keep them out the market for a longer time, you can clearly see how much more SA decided to pump out when you look at some charts
do you even know how retarded it sounds that all the countries you mentioned are doing this JUST to hurt saudi arabia? Russia got hit hard with low oil prices. You unironically think Iran or any country likes selling oil so cheap?
>>76053743
>the main reason why SA decided to produce so much oil is to bankrupt US oil companies and keep them out the market for a longer time, you can clearly see how much more SA decided to pump out when you look at some charts
this was the plan and this plan backfired
now this is us that putting them in bad position read rest of the posts
> Russia got hit hard with low oil prices. You unironically think Iran or any country likes selling oil so cheap?
we devalued our currency years ago and we are doing ok better than ever after Iran deal
read rest of the post these questions were already answered
>>76053305
>you will start the big war or trump comes and negotiate with Russia, Iran and china
yeah, SA is unsustainable and headed towards war in the future, whether the economic reforms succeed or not. the only alternative is they start sending people abroad en masse like the philippines. the phillippines has a similarly high birth rate and religious population, but they send their people to the us to work shit jobs so there are no problems at home.
> trump comes and negotiate with Russia, Iran and china
i dont think any of those countries are going to give in. they already trade in their own currencies and we would need to invade them to get them to use us dollars. the only way an invasion is going to happen is if another pearl harbor occurs and everybody gets emotional about war
>3rd possibility is that you lose the control of energy resources of middle east
this is inevitable. we have enough natural resources in the us to last us until oil is no longer needed. also, there is no public support for an invasion to maintain control of middle eastern energy resources
theres also a fourth possibility. if SA doesnt fall into civil war in the near future, the need for middle eastern energy resources might be completely shut down. we also have tons of coal in the us and trump has been talking a lot about coal. im not sure how this would effect the petrodollar however. we might find another commodity to attach the dollar to instead of oil
>>76053992
>this was the plan and this plan backfired
There is a certain dollar price that needs to hit for fracking companies to be profitable, SA knows this and they dont want them to enter the market.
The plan didnt "backfire" yet. You are right in saying that Russia called SAs bluff by not producing less. They pumped out more because they need to sell more at a lower price to meet their budget. This "battle" is still ongoing. It will probably end up in a deal. All countries you mentioned are in a "bad spot" (besides china).
Even if SA lost 100 billion, they still have like 600 billion or so left and they have pretty much 0 taxes on their civilians, meaning they have room for more taxes (they increased gas prices iirc) They will probably be able to find a way to keep the oil price at 40 dollars for 10 years and survive.
And just like with Iran, they want to sell more oil because the price is cheaper, they have ambitions they want to fund and they are not going to wait 10 fucking years to see this out. They are simply producing more because they want to sell more. If it would hurt SA that would be just a nice plus, but it also sucks for them to sell oil for dirtcheap.
>>76054378
by big war I meant you enter syria directly to over throw assad and get the control of situation of middle east and this maybe triggers a world war since russian and chinease are involved too
this may now sound mental but there is a possibility
the only alternative is they start sending people abroad en masse like the philippines. the phillippines has a similarly high birth rate and religious population, but they send their people to the us to work shit jobs so there are no problems at home.
so you mean sending back large number population that already immigrated there from countries like Pakistan home and import cheaper work force?
this is not easy
>i dont think any of those countries are going to give in.
yeah we dont our foreign minster already said there will be no new negotiations but I guess there is always a possibility if you come up with good offer
> the only way an invasion is going to happen is if another pearl harbor occurs and everybody gets emotional about war
Im more thinking of something like this may happen actually
>this is inevitable. we have enough natural resources in the us to last us until oil is no longer needed. also, there is no public support for an invasion to maintain control of middle eastern energy resources
you have but this means giving whole middle east and maybe even parts of EU later to Russia and china
>theres also a fourth possibility. if SA doesnt fall into civil war in the near future, the need for middle eastern energy resources might be completely shut down. we also have tons of coal in the us and trump has been talking a lot about coal. im not sure how this would effect the petrodollar however. we might find another commodity to attach the dollar to instead of oil
this is not gonna work any time soon still lots of industries are depended on oil products
>>76054702
>The plan didnt "backfire
look at their position in Opec meetings
first they were all about no cap let everybody burn
now they are begging for cap for last 6 months
>they pumped out more because they need to sell more at a lower price to meet their budget.
>This "battle" is still ongoing.
yes also Russian economy is less depended to its oil revenue than SA
as Ive said they are going down before all rest of us
>All countries you mentioned are in a "bad spot" (besides china).
we have all gone under reforms 5-6 years ago and we are in a very better positions
also china is on a currency war with US and there is a dispute in china sea and china has north korea unleashed a little bit
>Even if SA lost 100 billion,
100 billion is budget deficit that means some parts of government will struggle like wellfare
>they still have like 600 billion or so left and they have pretty much 0 taxes on their civilians,
583b$ and funding two wars and spending to buy influence
taxing on citizens and cutting their benefit and welfare will not be that easy
even now most of real suadi arabs working in bullshit government jobs not used to work with hands
>And just like with Iran, they want to sell more oil because the price is cheaper, they have ambitions they want to fund and they are not going to wait 10 fucking years to see this out. They are simply producing more because they want to sell more. If it would hurt SA that would be just a nice plus, but it also sucks for them to sell oil for dirtcheap.
this means prices fall even more = more budget deficit more and faster reforms may cuase unrest
market is overflowing with oil already and there is not enough customers >>76052880 look at this
as Ive said we already answered this in our discussion with USbro with facts and links
>>76054987
if SA invaded syria directly iran would respond directly which would provoke a response from turkey, israel ect., which iran would lose becasue theyre outnumbered and outmatched in weaponry. i think the us and russia would back down from a potential conflict though. the extent of participation would be giving weapons to their respective blocs. we both know war would be suicide and the us and russia can wipe eachother off the map with nuclear weapons, china will not start a war with the us unless they know russia is committed because they cannot fight the us 1v1. we can wipe them off the map and they have no way to retaliate. the far more likely scenario is a civil war in SA like when the ikhwan revolted in 1972 for religious reasons. people who arent getting their welfare, have no jobs and are really religious are really likely to revolt. alternatively the government could unleash such a mob on the shia in eastern province if the pressure ever got so high that a revolt was imminent.
>you have but this means giving whole middle east and maybe even parts of EU later to Russia and china
were going to lose the middle east sooner or later. we have no political and public will to hold onto it
>>76055637
There are customers actually. For the right price everyone will buy that oil. The article if about them waiting for the value to hit a higher price, not about countries not buying them (why would they when they can get them for cheaper).
The main "battle" which is ongoing now, is if Saudi arabia decided to produce less, which means higher oil prices, but it also means they will lose market share to a potential rival, who is ready to keep selling oil at a bit lower price just to get that market share. Countries will keep buying them/stockpiling them at record low levels. You are saying that Russia AND Iran is putting SA at a bad place, but that is simply wrong. You are dumb if you think that Russia likes yet another country who is going to shit out more oil. Russia was hoping their bluff they called against SA would be good, but they didnt account for Iran coming and shitting out more oil. It makes sense that SA is mad about Irans lifted sanctions, and they are worried about this shit with Iran, true, but you are wrong that this is a battle against Russia/Iran. All 3 countries are against each other with all 3 looking at their own interests. The country in the best position is Iran, that is true, the worst position is SA, also true. But SA can make this drag really long, and they will probably find a way to do so (not considering oil price that would rise).
Even with this, all of that shit about iran producing more, selling more has only been words. Im pretty sure yet a single barrel will have to hit the market. They have been saying it for a while not, yet nothing (if im not wrong)
Hey /sg/,
What the fuck is going on in Southern Aleppo?
Loads of regime forced killed and captured, WTF?
>>76056090
>if SA invaded syria directly
this mean they started act of war against another country by any international rules.
and Russians and us that are actually there by Syrian government invite can react accordingly.
they need US and NATO`s support without that Russian can btfo SA and also if needed china will get involved I dont think right now they have be this stupid
do you think NATO will follow SA turkey in a war
look at what happened after turkey downed that Ru fighter
germ nay took its patriot SAMs out of turkey
>>76056350
probably sleeping cells
>>76056090
>if SA invaded syria directly iran would respond directly
Just that Iran has the only viable Army in the middle east. Both a republican system + veterans from various wars. Turkey has no veterans, and SA can't even beat Houthis.
Iran + Russia could assrape Turkey + SA + USA easily. I'd like to see that happen actually, dead Turks would be stacked sky-high.
>>76056233
>right price
is low price and today`s low price wont help SA
>Countries will keep buying them/stockpiling them at record low levels
many already have done this
>You are dumb if you think that Russia likes yet another country
we dont think russian like us in this particular situation basically our intentions is mutual
we have one goal and one strategy and working on same agenda as long as it works and benefits us.
look at syria today who is working with who
>But SA can make this drag really long
well then we act accordingly if this happens yet today all the predictions are against it
one of point of this agenda is putting an end to syrian conflict is if they stop supporting the war in syria things will lift off and there is no sign of this happening yet
>producing more, selling more has only been words.
you're not wrong yet market reacts to supply/demand this means oil prices will surely decline
>Im pretty sure yet a single barrel will have to hit the market.
we already sold to Italy and a facility in Romania and some to India and china and with a discount of course
pic related 1m barrels to Italy
yes battle is going on you're right
>>76057040
>Iran + Russia could assrape Turkey + SA + USA
minus US yes but with US no we cant
question is if SA-turkey invade will NATO-US follow?
this will be very hard to get any public support in NATO countries
>Online offer: 'This slave is yours for $8,000'
>Almani, the apparent owner of the Facebook account, is thought to be a German national fighting for Daesh in Syria
http://gulfnews.com/news/mena/iraq/online-offer-this-slave-is-yours-for-8-000-1.1837395
>>76057464
Russia and Saudi arabia were engaging in a mini war, without accounting that Iran would later come in. Iran would gladly take some of SAs or Russias market share, they have been pretty agressive in telling they want to sell more etc. I simply dont like the idea that people think this is a russia/iran vs SA thing. There are 3 fronts against each other, its important to remember. It is also not important to forget the MAIN reason why SA started pumping out more, and that was to take out US fracking companies.
But like i said before, i completely agree that SA is in the worst position. There is also a good chance that Russia and SA would want to make a deal, but Iran simply not wanting any of that shit and pump more out. It will be interesting to see how it works out, i agree that the pressure is the highest on SA.
>>76056758
>international rules
international rules doesnt matter in the face of political reality. the only people who enforce international allies are the us and co.
>if iran and russia directly intervene
that will provoke a direct response from turkey and maybe isreal. nevermind that russia is dependent on turkey to transport large amounts of equipment to syria. turkey and SA have superior air power in the area and could wipe out the russian force in a matter of hours. iran has not upgraded its airforce since the revolution. russian and iranian forces are going to be at a huge disadvantage because of the distance and difficulty of maintaining supply lines. there is literally no way china can help aside from supplying war materials. if china gets involved it will be by causing trouble in the south china sea and making the us divert attention there.
>muh s-400
not gonna be able to stop the 700+ aircraft that SA and turkey can deploy
>muh no nato
turkey and SA are capable of winning by themselves. look at the russian performance in the georgian war. they have serious problems in the command structure of the army, same as iran. iran has many parallel branches of the armed forces, making it difficult to effectively coordinate with other branches as well as the russians. given that turkey and SA have local superiority it would be impossible for iran and russia to prevent them from taking all of syria.
>muh military modernization
have u seen the condition of russian equipment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjyRMMRbB7s
>>76040888
>>76034356
Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCv7a5rdSyI
>>76057834
>hey have been pretty agressive in telling they want to sell more etc
yes for same reason that we talked about
>Russia and SA would want to make a deal
Russian are bombing Saudi backed rebels
some russians lost their life in Syria this will be faaaaaaaar from happening.
also one of points of what we started this conversation was whose gonna get control of energy resources russia/china or US
Im happy that we made a civil convarsation with good point,
can you say your opinion on other theory I brought up
wildfire in canda and consequences?
>>76051507
>>76051788
here
what is /sg/ listening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Llgvsr4PJQ
>>76057680
>minus US yes but with US no we cant
You underestimate Russia my friend. They have a great arsenal of tactical nuclear rockets, undetectable by radar.
>>76058230
No strong opinion on that, it rather looks like Trudea looking incompetent not accepting foreign help with the fire. Alberta was extremely hot and dry this year, other fires happened close (not as bad). I personally dont really like indulging in "conspiracy" (not trying to say its an insult), theories.
>>76058253
We have unfinished business! what tank?
Listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oqAU5VxFWs
>>76057849
>international rules
it can be used from both sides to take action and get public support
and in this conflict its on our side
>>if iran and russia directly intervene
we are already there supporting legitimate government of Syria
if SA invade this will be act of war
>that will provoke a direct response from turkey and maybe isreal. nevermind that russia is dependent on turkey to transport large amounts of equipment to syria. turkey and SA have superior air power in the area and could wipe out the russian force in a matter of hours. iran has not upgraded its airforce since the revolution. russian and iranian forces are going to be at a huge disadvantage because of the distance and difficulty of maintaining supply lines. there is literally no way china can help aside from supplying war materials. if china gets involved it will be by causing trouble in the south china sea and making the us divert attention there.
all these issues are related to each other and very hard to predict discuss
for example Russians can bomb Turkey then
as Ive said this can trigger a bigger international war from east to west
right now this is very unlikly and we have to wait for US elections outcome
>muh no nato
>turkey and SA are capable of winning by themselves.
what are you even saying look at yemen
have they won anything?
look at what happened when iraq attacked kuwait could they defend anything?
look at iraq today after US intervention
I think you are tired as am I so please dont add new tpoic
>>76058253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRP6egIEABk
getting ready for a conversation ive been putting off.
