More guns equals more deaths. Why do you ignore logic /pol/?
>>75990133
what kind of deaths?
>More guns equals more deaths. Why do you ignore logic /pol/?
If this is true then buying guns with a hair trigger and sending one free to every NRA member would eliminate your opponents in just a few years.
Why aren't you buying me more guns OP? Do you want to ignore your own logic?
>>75990133
>More guns equals more deaths.
So what?
Does the constitution say "shall not be infringed unless some asshole in Wyoming shoots his kids"?
>>75990133
Gun deaths per 100,000 of deaths? Wut?
ITT: Gun nuts that don't care how many dead there are as long as they have MUH GUNZZ!
>>75990133
I don't know. Why do you ignore most gun homicides occur in just six Democrat-controlled cities?
>>75991000
>don't care how many dead
Trips don't lie.
my God given rights > your pussy feelings
>>75990133
Violent crime has only increased in Australia and the UK following gun bans
P.S. Gun ownership lowers the rate of violent crime overall
who would've thought that being able to defend yourself would deter would-be criminals, who almost exclusively prey on people who they believe are too weak to stop them? what are you, some kind of misogynist who wants to disempower women and transexuals from defending themselves? You fucking bigot
>>75990133
>More guns equals more deaths.
Well you're almost there. More guns equals more gun deaths. That is true. What that doesn't account for is the thousands of homicides that are committed by illegally acquired, basically invisible guns by criminals, the thousands of suicide deaths, or the deaths where use of force was justified. Look in countries without guns, deaths are still high, but are caused by other means. Gun crime is down, but knife crime and criminal assault is up.
Honestly if you remove suicide and brown on brown gang violence from the stats, our gun death rate is about that of the Swiss.
>>75990133
Deaths to who? Attempted rapists? House invaders? Muggers?
>>75990133
>gun deaths
how to spot bullshit statistics 101
"gun deaths" means suicide as well as justifiable homicide. it's a useless stat that people try to push. No shit there are more gun deaths where there are more guns, did you also know that most knife accidents happen in the kitchen?
>>75990472
Was just about post this
>>75990133
All that should matter is intentional, criminal homicides. Access to guns means more people choose to kill themselves using guns. Access to guns does not increase the amount of people killing themselves.
>>75992338
Got any evidence to back that up? Besides it still doesn't change the fact that more guns equals more gun deaths.
>>75993287
What do you mean evidence? I'm stating a fact about what "gun deaths" means. It means someone died and a gun was used. Meaning if someone commits suicide with a gun, thats a gun death, if someone kills an assailant, thats a gun death, if someone accidentally or negligently dies from a gun, that is a gun death.
Gun deaths say nothing about crime. It doesn't say anything about the safety of a community. It's mostly people defending themselves or hurting themselves.
To summarize, this: >>75992582
>>75990133
because we don't care about the deaths.
>>75990133
yeah we know.
thats the price of freedom and we will gladly pay it.
>>75990133
>That graph
The data is simply wrong. Nice source...
>Mother Jones
Cancer
>>75990133
>gun ownership vs gun deaths
WELL NO FUCKING SHIT. WHEN PEOPLE DONT OWN GUNS THEY JUST RESORT TO STABBING AND CHOKING WHICH ISN'T ACCOUNTED FOR IN YOUR STUPID GRAPH. REPORTED.
>>75990133
Explain Switzerland
>More guns = more gun deaths
No shit sherlock
sage
More cars also equal more death. Not enough death by far imo
>why do you ignore this logic
Because it's bullshit
>>75990472
>including suicides in gun deaths
bravo
Of course the northern states would be at top, they are cold as shit and make people suicidal
Now see the gun ownership - murder rate correlation
>>75990133
>gun deaths
That chart includes suicides. It's total bullshit. For example, Montana has a homicide rate of 3.6 per 100,000.
http://www.usa.com/montana-state-crime-and-crime-rate.htm
>>75990133
This is /pol/. Who cares about logic?
>>75995895
This is why I hate nu/pol/.
Gun owner logic:
>I need muh gunz. Its muh rites.
>why?
>fer protecting me family
>from what?
>CRAZY NIGGERS WIT GUNZ DUH!!
>tougher gun laws would keep them out of "crazy nigger hands"
>YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY MUH GUNZ!?!?! NEVER!! ITZ MUH RITES!!
This is every argument with conservatives. Completely circular logic. No actual plans to achieve anything.
SHALL
>>75995867
Also includes defensive gun use
>>75996257
Last time I checked, liberals aren't advocating for nigger control.
So let'use some math
Hawaii has a 10% gun ownership and Wyoming has a 60% gun ownership
This means that Wyoming has 6 time more gun ownership per household than hawaii
Now Hawaii has a 4/100000 death ratio and Wyoming 20/100000 death ratio
This means that if I SEXTUPLICATE the number of gun I have a wooping 16/100000 increase in the number of total death 16/100000 = 0,016%
pretty fuckin meaningless
>>75990133
How about some fair statistics (murders vs gun ownership rate)? What do you know? No correlation.
>>75990133
Of course more guns is correlated with more gun deaths. If someone is breaking into my house, I am not going to stab him to death when I have a gun to avoid increasing the number of gun deaths. What that chart doesn't show is why that is a bad thing.
>>75990133
I think we should focus on more important things, like banning assault cars and assault swimming pools!
>>75997300
Ban Assault Pools! and sage this shitty thread!
I feel so bad for california, sage
