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Ask a Greek communist anything.
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Pay denbts
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>>75988792
How often do you masturbate to Yanis Varoufakis?
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>>75988792
Are you trotskyist?
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>>75988917
No.

>>75988860
No.

>>75988859
No.
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Why are you a Communist when you've seen first hand what those kind of systems have done to your country and others?

My guess is that you're very young and misguided, and don't realize that you're basically wanting to be equally poor and enslaved as everyone else.

Or you're trollin', in which fuck off.
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>>75989075
What have communists done to Greece, other than fight against foreign invaders at WW2 and then get killed in a 'civil war' by Brits and Yankees? Just an example.
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>>75989326
The USSR did the same thing in WW2 in terms of fighting against foreign invaders.

How did Communism work out for those guys and the millions of people who died under it?

Your country is already fucked, Greecefaggot. Do you want to step even further down and wait in lines for food and toilet paper? Or do you guys already do that.
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>>75989615
Low quality post.

Communism worked just fine in the USSR (until '53 when politicians started making stupid mistakes). How did the average Russian live in 1917?
80-90% of the country was illiterate, and in a couple decades illiteracy disappeared completely. Think how Russia managed in WW1 and how in WW2.
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>>75988792
When you paying up?
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>>75988792
Why are you a faggot that looks at Mao Zedong and thinks "Nothing wrong here"?
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>>75989075
>You don't realize that you're basically wanting to be equally poor and enslaved as everyone else.
>Do you want to step even further down and wait in lines for food and toilet paper?
Nice strawman.
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>>75990136
In 2009 they used to say if we follow the memorandum we will get back on track at around 2011-12, then at ~2014 etc.
Now on the newspapers I read something about Greece getting back on track at around 2030. Germany has pledged 100 billions for refugees and our country has to pay billions too for such bullshit, but /pol/ bitches when we 'waste' a few millions or even fucking thousands on stuff that matters like education. Ideally our govt refuses to pay.

>>75990401
Mao did a shitload of mistakes and I disagree on many things with him. So another shit post. Stalin did mistakes too, I don't want to idealize him.
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>>75988792
What kind of communist are you?

Marxist orthodox, Marxist-Leninist, Stalinist, Troskyst, Syndicalist (opportunist)?
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>>75988792
It's always amazing that so many people still believe in a socialist utopia when everywhere it's been tried it is a disaster. Karl Marx probably caused more suffering than anyone in history.

What you Maoists seem to ignore, or more likely do not know at all, is that first round of people actually going to the camps during a communistic takeovers will include them, too.

The revolutionary avangarde gets put down first with the dissenters, because you just can't keep people like this around.

This is basic history, why are people so fucking stupid these days
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>>75990909
Stalinism is basically the continuation of marxism-leninism. I am against opportunism.
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>>75988792
Why arent you working for the greater good of your country? Every minute you shitpost you arent helping the greek proletariat producing for the revolution
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>Communism
>Even in a shit place like Greece

Will never happen. The closer you get to it, the closer you get to destroying the country. And after it does carsh, you'll say it was never *really* tried and then destroy another country once more to prove otherwise.
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>>75988792
Πάλι τα ίδια ρε;
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>>75991130
Not really but ok
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>>75991072
>Stalinism is basically the continuation of marxism-leninism
You'd be surprised at the number of people who don't believe that, most of them troskytes

Either way, you didn't answer my question, what are you?
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>>75991216
Cool story, pinko faggot.
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>>75988792
Are you still going to pay denbts?
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Why arnt you a nationalist?
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>>75988792
Why do you still follow a dumb, discredited ideology?
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>>75991316
Not an argument.
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>>75991088
Worked enough to help the revolution today, now gotta follow my objective interest and relax.
>producting for the revolution
More like for the slavemasters?

>>75991153
Ναι.

>>75991130
Replied countless times to such posts, I never said communism was never tried fucking faggot. But mistakes have been done by the relevant politicians and we learn from them to not repeat them.

>>75991258
ML, thought it would be obvious since I said I'm not a trot earlier, nor an opportunist.
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>>75991485
There's a difference between Kautsky orthodox-Marxism and Marxism-Leninism

Read it up, there's also revisionist marxists, but that's the old socialdemocrats that you surely been told to hate

Do you know anything about Gramsci? I keep reading a lot about him in educated communist circles
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>>75991485
Θα σε ξεμπροστιάσω.
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>>75990124
Russia was undergoing massive economic expansion up till World War One which terrified the Germans into a preventative war to avoid being left behind
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>>75991344
Meh I was about to start an essay about nationalism but I'm bored.

I consider myself a patriot, nationalism is mostly patriotism plus silly metaphysics, and political leaders to take advantage of it.

>>75991789
Πες μου τι θες αγορίνα;
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>>75991643
>Read it up
Noted, not that educated yet.
Don't know enough about Gramsci either.
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>>75991955
>Πες μου τι θες αγορίνα;

Συντροφιά :3
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Hurr, M-maybe all the other people did communism wrong, R-right guys? I'm sure we'll be the first to do it correctly.

Communism cannot exist without prior capitalism. Who's money would you take and distribute? The system you believe in is inherently dependent on something you hate.
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are you that anti fa faggot?
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>>75992102
Op, you just admitted to liking the feels of the system instead of KNOWING WHAT ITS ACTUALLY FUCKING ABOUT. Jesus, you don't even know the history of communism yet you claim to support it?
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Here's a question for you Op. How do you feel when the system you believe in is DIRECTLY responsible for the dearth of tens of millions of people and the failure of every country who's tried true communism? I'm asking how that makes you feel, because from your replies so far it's all been about how you feel. Let's ask tens of millions of dead bodies how they feel about communism.
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>>75992348
No.

>>75992318
Yes, there are some objective (material) condition to be met before communism is achieved, but no, money and its redistribution doesn't matter, you can take all your paper money as long as the means of production are here. You have a twisted view of communism.

>>75992464
Wrong, I know the history but I'm new to the ideology (used to be a /pol/tard) and knowing everything takes years. I know that becoming a libertarian or a fascist takes just 1 week of browsing /pol/ but not all ideologies are like that.

Serious parties have huge files and documents of their history and history of communism in general that nobody has COMPLETE knowledge on.
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>>75992318
>le all communism is the same meme
Also, Marx knew that socialism or communism would follow capitalism. He saw it as a series of developments.
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>>75992724
How do you feel about crimes committed by capitalism?
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>>75988792
Are you okay with flooding your country with niggers and muslims?
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>>75988792
Stalinist here, what type of communist are you?
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>>75992918
What different types of communism are there and how do they differ?
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>>75992884
There are barely any fascists on /pol/. They all are libtards because they are naïve. Getting to be a fascist requires reading too.
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>>75988792
Is the violence on the Dangerous Faggot tour real, or are you just making it up on Twitter as you go along?
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>>75988792
Why do you hate people?
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>>75991955

Greece is mostly Greek, it would only seem logical.
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>>75988792
When did your ancestors convert to Judaism?
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>>75989326
Well gee wiz... that have communists done other countries besides taking away rights, impoverishing people, and genocide millions of political dissidents?
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I can see why your country is in so much debt
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>>75993024
Not at all. The only ones profiting from immigration are the capitalists, because:
1)mainly the working class pays for the welfare of immigrants
2)they find cheaper working force
3)they don't feel the consequences of enrichment because they live in upper class areas
4)most niggers/muslims are not organized and are clueless about worker unions so that subverts the working class too

They have created fake insane left wing movements who attract immigrants, and then a reactionary right wing that turns their back on the true left to fight immigration, which is a symptom of capitalism.

>>75993041
Read >>75991485

>>75993093
What have you read? I was big on Nietzsche/Evola and HBD back in the day.
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>>75989326
>start a civil war
you forgot that part
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>>75993328
Rephrase? You mean I'm not a nationalist because I don't see subhumans very often?

>>75993667
I hope this is bait.

>>75993518
First man in space, for example ;^)
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>>75988792
γαμω το σπιτι σου ρε μαλαkα εχεις kαταστρεψει αυτη την χωρα μαζι με τα αλλα kομμουνια

>>75989326
You fought against invaders my ass
You pulled fingernails of innocent people that didn't agree with your ideology.

"GREEK" COMMUNISTS DO NOT EXIST. WHEN SOMEONE CONSCIOUSLY BECOMES A COMMUNIST HE STOPS BEING A GREEK.

>>75993845
>First man in space
That was achieved by the Soviet Union, the USSR was hardly communist.
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>>75992884
Genocide. Mass starvation. The killing fields of Cambodia. The assassination and deportation of hundreds of thousands in Romania. Mao Zedong's mass genocide. 15 million deaths under the Soviet regime, exclusively from life in the gulags. The great purge or yezhovshchina. Would you like me to continue? You think communism works because of unity. That's true, because communism kills those who disagree.
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>>75993697
ok, nice to know.
When you vote in Greece do you vote for the left i presume?
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>>75988792
Fuck you
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>>75988792
Why do you betray our country?
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>>75992980
Communism has killed more people than any other regime type. Capitalism is far from perfect, but at least we don't starve in gulags.
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>>75993697
Halfways through Mein Kampf until I got bored (it is hard to read through)
The Doctrine of Fascism together with a few other short essays about fascism. I've also read a few philosophical works of Evola and Schopenhauer.
Sad thing is that I don't have much time for reading since I have to study and shitpost on /pol/ mainly and do a bit of work out.
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>>75993845
>First man in space, for example ;^)

Yeah, well first man on the moon ;)
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>>75993938
ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΟΜΜΟΥΝΙΣΤΗΣ!
Τρολλάς είναι,μην είσαι χάπατο σαν τους ξένους.

>>75994287
Να kαι ο άλλος.

>>75704476
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>>75993961
>15 million deaths under the Soviet regime

Wut. Where did the Soviets kill 15 million?

>>75993961
>The killing fields of Cambodia.
Which was supported and upheld by the capitalist West and eventually dismantled by communist Vietnam.
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>>75988792
Haven't got tired of starving yet?
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>>75994435
Tbh first satellites and man in space has so far been far more useful to us than first man on the moon
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>>75994435
You still lost the space race famalam
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>>75994014
we have like one of the sane communist parties that is not run by 'kikes' like the rest of europe.

>>75994073
lol

>>75994317
you seem dedicated

>>75994430
mein kampf is shit
check nietzsche
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>>75994738
dont you remember the 500 million killed by stalin?
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>>75994738
Historians estimate that the USSR was responsible for no fewer than 15 million deaths. An estimate from the Stalin regime states 8 to 64 million deaths.
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>>75995283
thats right, remember the 128 million
never forget the 258 milliom
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>>75995130
>we have like one of the sane communist parties that is not run by 'kikes'
You are delusional
Eχεις δει τη βουλη? γεμάτη με kοιμισμένα γουρούνια. "Λαϊkή" για τον kώλο
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>>75995130
And you seem to ignore the fact that communism kills millions of people. I'm dedicated because you support something responsible for the genocide of tens of millions. Name ONE working fully communist country.
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>>75988792

"Ask a Greek communist anything."

1.) when you pay your debts?
2.) how does it feel to live in a failed state?
3.) how does it feel that it will never get any better?
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>>75995360
you can't meme your way out of this leaf
please kill yourself now
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g2g now thanks for your time people
i expected a higher quality of conversartion though\
>>75994471
γιατι το νομιζεις αυτο;
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>>75995752
That's because you ignored my questions about millions of people dying. What, do you want us to agree with you? Alright. Keep living in your fucking fairy tale.
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>>75995752
εισαι μεγαλος πουστης, δες εδω: >>75995863
τον αγνοησες εντελως, αντε φυγε, λαμογιο
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>>75995752
Σιγά μην ξεkινούσε kομμουνιστής ama,kαι μάλιστα στο 4chan.Το πολύ πολύ να μας πέταγε ένα kείμενο σεντόνι τύπου μανιφέστο να έριχνε τίποτα βρισίδια kαι να έφευγε.
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Are you ready to become as shitty as your fellow Balkan neighbors?
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>>75996004
Sorry we don't speak poverty
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The ultimate level of brainwashing is seen in Greek communists. Communism couldn't be more incompatible with being Greek.
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>>75988792
Greece has one escape route at the moment and that's to hide under Russia's skirts. That's about as commie as its going to get. A misplaced faith in communism has this strange persistence in Greece for some reason.
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>>75996236
Maybe he's had a stroke of heat.
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>>75996125
Shaqiri why arent you in Switzerland?
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You failed, you're a loser, and nobody cares about your thread. :)
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>>75988792
His name is alex titkov, his sister is a whore
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>>75996888
Because i love my country Janko
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Ahhh, le greek communist meme :^)

For the sake of fun: Greek leftists are actually all right winged.
Not even kidding, since most leftist stuff became politically correct, the Greek Left lost its reason of existence.
It's just a more WEED LMAO right wing now
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>>75988792
What are your thoughts on the KKE? are you a member of any political party in Greece?

Are you more an anarcho-communist or a Marxist-Leninist type fo communist?
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I was interested in lurking leftypol on -8-chan for a while, while a lot of people were cool but 50% of the userbase were flooded with sjw's.

Looked around on other lefty/commie communities and it was pretty much 95% sjw bullshit you would see on a infographic on pol.

What your opinion on this?
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>>75997117
Im not trying to be hostile but seriously what is there to love? Again not bullying just curious.
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Your country is not in good shape right now, to say the very least.

Has the left been gaining momentum during this time? Or has the failure of Syriza only hurt the left? Is the far right "winning" against the left in terms of making a political movement happening?
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>tfw I leave and then come back only to see that the OP has gone away
sadlyf

Anyways
>>75997270
Read around, he is just a vanilla marxist-leninist, he doesn't really know the ropes of the business just yet

I guess he just fancied communism, so there wasn't much of an intelectual talk
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>>75988792
What's a typical Greek breakfast?

I had buttered toast with scrambled eggs, a cup of tea, a banana, more tea, some cherry yogurt, and an apple.

Tomorrow morning I'm making a full English as my wife gets back from work at 8am.
She's on night shift as a nurse. 7pm - 7am.
Sausage, bacon, black pudding (pig blood sausage), fried eggs, mushrooms, tomatoes, beans, toast, and shitloads of tea. Then loads of apple juice.

Tell me about Greek breakfast, bro.
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>>75988792
Why arent you a syndicalist? Communism is fake socialism made up by the jews to give socialism a bad name
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>>75988792
My grandparents said their family was forced by the communists to fight brother against brother, also there were purges back in Macedonia (what is now Greece, near the Albanian border, but Macedonian speaking) so they left for the United States in 1952. Do you support this? Also, would you be willing to give up all your possessions when the revolution comes?
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>>75997419
You don't need a specific reason to love your country. Just the fact you're born in it should be enough.
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Never looked at a poll on Greece elections.

Can golden dawn win an election?
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>>75998002
The cigaratte smuggler is correct.
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>>75998063
yes, last time I checked ND and GD had same approval ratings.
but i believe they're now leading 2nd
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>>75998063
No, and I'm not saying this because i dislike it as a party, but because it's paid opposition created to deliberately give Greek Nationalism a bad name.
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>>75988792
>communist
>"greek"
>"human"

fuckin faggot
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>>75998438
this guy gets it
I don't really like GD either

>>75998681
communists cannot be greek
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>>75998063
No. Moderates will never vote for Golden Dawn. Also, you will find that actual quality Greek nationalists don't quite support GD. That means that, unfortunately, a proper nationalist party (say, a parallel to National Front) is impossible at this point, since GD does collect the major volume of the support body it would require.
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>>75998295

How do you think the left will respond to a democratic GD win.

The left in Englel just got upset on election day with a conservative majority win (not saying their the same) and threw some cans and then went home and lived with it.

Would it be the same or would it get a lot more violent.
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>>75988792
Pay debt, lazy nigger
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>>75998438
>it's paid opposition created to deliberately give Greek Nationalism a bad name.

Why do you say that?Who pays them?
Nationalism already has a bad name everywhere in Europe,why would they need to create GD?
There are many things i don't like about Golden Dawn,but they are not paid opposition.
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>>75995130
>communist
>check Nietzsche
>the man who hated everything that stemmed from weakness and envy ie communism
Are you completely mentally disabled?
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>>75988792
savvo?
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>>75998938

Who pays them? The big guy. Of course, he doesn't pay them all, just enough to hold control. Nationalism has a bad name in the west, in the East it's still strong as ever. By creating "the enemy" aka Golden Dawn, Leftists and the EU have it way easier to push their agenda on your people. Because, honestly, almost every time you hear about Golden Dawn it's either Racial slurs towards Albanians, Turks, Bulgarians and whatnot; either physical assaults towards people of said nationality.
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>>75997741
unfiltered greek coffee, cigarettes, fried medium eggs and buttered crackers with peach marmelade
Exquisite taste sir
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>>75988792
why are you not in the ovens, kikespawn?

>do you even know who (((Abraham Benaroya))) was?
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>>75988792

What do you think of us as a dirty gayreek commie?
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>>75999613
>Who pays them? The big guy.
There are many proofs that they don't get paid by anyone and who the fuck is "the big guy".

>every time you hear about Golden Dawn it's either Racial slurs towards Albanians, Turks, Bulgarians and whatnot
Yes the media always portray them in a bad light which is one the many proofs that they don't have the support of a big guy.As for the racial slurs,yes it's true they are very racist which is probably the only reason you don't like them and i don't blame you for that.
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>>75988792
how does it feel to not understand basic human nature?
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>>76000555
>double trips
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>>76000555

rekt n checkt
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>>75988792

Was is difficult telling your parents you are gay?
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>>75994738
>typical commie revolution (peasant teenagers led by Western educated elite)
>parallels the revolutions next door in Laos and south Vietnam
>khmer Rouge wins and turns out to be genocidal primitivist nationalists
>Vietnamese commies aided by Chinese commies drive them into the jungle
>us special forces unironically aid them to continue their struggle

Definitely an interesting historical footnote
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Communism is great until it stops working.
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>>75988792
how often do you fantasize about being dominated by your master turks?
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