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Atheists also welcome, but try to be constructive.
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Submissiveness or, the need to be Dominated: a healthy man always questions the world. This behavior is what has allowed man to impose himself upon, and gain control over everything he has come across. Everything that is great in a man comes from his ability to question. Which in turn leads him down the path of understanding, and more efficient and complex manipulations of the world. A man who's nature is to accept first, and question later. Is not a man at all.
This in my opinion, is one of the largest behavioral differences between men and women. Where a man is more likely to first question, and then secondly to accept. A woman is more likely to be accepting of her predicament, and often does not question those above her. Or the things that she thinks she is unable to control.
Man's questioning leads him to eventually dominate his surroundings. Where as a woman's accepting leads her to eventually be dominated by them.
>>75982743
When looking at modern day men and women you see a reversal of these roles. In women you see it as a constant mannish behavior that permeates through their entire personality. They try so hard to be mans equal, and yet they always fail. If not as a man, then as a woman.
They fail as men because they do not naturally question the world as a man does. And they fail as women because in their pursuit of equality (mannishness), they lose their ability to accept. They never can accept an average guy, so in the end they die childless and alone.
In many ways it is the same for men. In the pursuit of equality (simultaneously having both male and female roles/virtues), they end up losing the male "virtues", and can never gain the female ones. They lose the one they have in their pursuit of having them both. They become all accepting men. Which in turn makes them the antithesis of what a man should be.
>>75982799
At this point perhaps you are seeing the connections I saw when first making this observation. And that is that this behavior, or the switching of the male/female natural behaviors, is directly connected to the teachings of Christianity.
Christianity orders men not to question God (to be fully accepting of him). Christianity orders men to obey God (to be fully submissive to him). Christianity orders men not to judge others, as only God can judge man.
Here lies the root cause for modern liberalism, and the feminization of men. For the orders of Christianity do just that. Feminize men, and create all accepting, non-questioning slaves.
And Christianity orders it for this very reason, it's goal is to produce slaves. To create them out of men. To make men who do not question the world. And to make men who fully accept the demands of their God.
Christianity purposefully makes men woman-like, because women are naturally submissive. Women seek to be dominated by the world around them. They need to be dominated by the world around them.
>>75982868
>>75982799
>>75982743
Modern Liberalism, Communism, SJW-ism, and the vast majority of modern "atheists" are nothing more than Christians. They may not keep the title, they may not wear the name. But they readily spread the core teachings of their Christian holy book. And that is to accept all, to be submissive to God (the state), and that you cannot judge another human being.
The Christian doctrine has seeped so fully into western society. Like a cancer it turns the people upon themselves. An autoimmune disease that slowly chips away until it is powerful enough to take down the whole.
It lusts for your submission. It's ecstasy is your acceptance. And it longs for the day when all men are under its subjugation. Under the slavery they so rightly deserve.
For all Christian men are sinners.
>>75982635
Yay, you remade this shitthread. Good job.
>>75982955
>Posting Islamic shit
You have to go back
Why are Protestants (Germans, Americans) usually harder working compared to Catholics/orthodox (Hispanics, and Greeks)
>>75982868
So you think masculinity is being above God?
Reminder the book of enoch is canon and the jews suppressed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er507MsGp0M
>>75983085
The Protestant Ethic and a greater tendency towards Capitalism.
>>75982868
That's a load of bullshit
Christianity encourages faith and loyalty, not submissiveness. On the other hand, a lack of belief leads to more sin. Just look at faggots and trannies- the most feminine of all. Most are atheist
>>75983151
True, most socialists are Catholic
>>75983123
>tfw read the book of enoch recently
>tfw there are several blatant references to Jesus in that book
The Jews do not like the book of Enoch very much
>>75982955
Go cry and then cry some more, heretic
>>75983155
Everyone must submit to God. Anyone who sees a problem with that is filled with pride to an absurd point, and is completely insane.
However, as you said, people want to reject Christianity because that way you have no authority, so nothing is wrong and you can do whatever you want.
>>75982868
>Christians can't judge others
That's just some lib cuck meme
http://www.gotquestions.org/do-not-judge.html
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/judge-not
What's the christcucks' opinion toward orthodox church?
>>75982635
Everyone here knows God exists, he has revealed himself to you in a way that you can be certain, but in our sinful nature, we suppress this truth. But God has revealed himself enough to you to hold you accountable
Christianity is Cuck™: The religion
>>75983070
It's just a little girl, Anon. Her evil muslims parents tried to have her arranged married. Don't you feel bad for her?
>>75983397
I like the Orthodox Church personally.
t. Catholic
>>75982635
With free speech now being illegal in europe, how long do you think before they try banning the bible for hate speech?
Starting to think I should look at escaping to America or Russia before it happens.
>>75983474
>Catholic in america
Superiority Complex/Inferiority Complex: this becomes almost immediately apparent after just a few words are spoken with a Christian. They are as passive aggressive as the most ornery of women. Making remarks such as "pal", "ok bud", "I'll pray for you", "I won't judge you but God will". When using such "phrases", you will notice they speak as if they were above you, they do not take what you say seriously. In fact it is as though they view you and your opinions in such a negative light, as so clearly inferior, that they were scoffing at you like one would a child, or an animal.
What comes next is a complete reverse of the before mentioned behaviors. For when it comes to God, they view themselves as so clearly inferior. They will go on and on about how they admit, and openly accept they are born sinners. They then use this admittance as a tool to regain superiority over the person they speak with. All arguments, criticisms, and insults are meaningless because of course they never claim to be good people. They claim only to be a sinner. And because of this, they see themselves as humble, wise, and perhaps infallible. Their admittance of "inferiority", is a tool to help them gain the feeling of "superiority". It is the coping mechanism of a slave.
>>75983438
Evidence
God never revealed himself to me or anyone I know.
Christianity is "If you kill your enemies - they win" the religion
>>75983562
Romans 1:18-22
>>75983438
>Everyone here knows God exists
Stop trying to put words in other people's mouths.
>he has revealed himself to you in a way that you can be certain
Untrue. If it was true people wouldn't be uncertain.
And how has he revealed himself? Can I go and see him somewhere?
>>75983570
>>75983629
Why do sjws like you guys always attack Christianity but not Islam?
Christ forbids you to resist evil.
Matthew 5:39
But I tell you not to resist an evil man. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also;
>>75983523
>Escape to America
You should do that. We have the 2nd Amendment and when they try to take away our freedom here, at least we'll be able to shoot back.
Hopefully we get Trump elected too.
>>75983531
I'm not a mexican tho
>>75983696
Creation
Logic and Reason
Objective morality
>>75983669
>Book states that god revealed himself
well sure buddy, so what? he never revealed himself to me or to anyone I know. How could I be atheist if god revealed himself to me?
>>75983786
This is a thread about Christianity. Why would I attack Islam here? I do that plenty in discussion where it's the topic.
How can I be a SJW for rejecting a religion that's too SJW for my taste like Christianity by the way? SJWs are just secular Christians.
>>75983835
I really am thinking about it.
Seems like Europe is destined to fall to islam, and the anti-christ's church is only hastening the process.
>>75983085
There are more Catholic Germans than Protty Germans
>>75983786
Becaouse muslims don't start "islam general" threads on a board about politics. Duh.
>>75984007
We are in dark times, everyone who follows God with a true heart can sense it.
Christianity is a religion for good goyim
>>75983974
God said he has, who am I gonna trust you or God.
Jesus was a refugee, goy
>>75984183
Did he say so to you personally? Do you have some recordings of that?
>>75983907
>Logic and Reason
Logic and reason lead you to conclude there is an invisible man who created everything? That's real interesting.
>>75983455
Butthurt atheist cuck detected
>>75984183
Well, I do exist so...
Also, did he said it to you personally?
Do you have any evidence what so ever that he said that? Or that he said anything ever for that matter?
>>75983696
Don't pretend you ever searched for Him. He who seeks shall find. He who asks shall receive. How much can you learn with no faith present? How do you expect to ever understand with no faith? Is it so hard for you? I'm willing to bet that even as a non believer, if you personally cried out for Jesus to open your eyes and forgive your sins that you may know salvation, your life would start to change and the way you think would start to develop into what you currently believe is false. You want a sign? A symbol? An act? Understand that giving yourself to Him is the only way to come across them. But you can choose not to, you will still be held accountable. You've been presented with the seed of the word, it is now in your mind. You will be judged based on your heart. You have an opportunity to change your future. Let the seed grow and learn more of the truth, or let it whither and die because it has been planted on bad ground. You are the ground, the word is the seed. I e given you a way to find proof, look for it or accept that you have just as much faith in Gods non existence as believers have faith in his existence.
>>75984369
> licks dirty, smelly, nigga feet
> calls other people cucks
=D
>>75984369
Where are all the atheists licking refugee feet and housing them because atheism tells them to? :^)
Please provide evidence that yours and your only is the one and tru god... and that he actually exist.
Protip: you can't
Why? Because he is not real. Grow up for fucks sake.
>is "atheist"
>has no religion
>hates only Christianity
>doesn't need evidence, "christcucks" do
What even
>>75984564
They have to apologize for all the evil things Christians did during the crusades and the spanish inquisition anon
>>75984586
Jesus came down to earth as God in living flesh, Jesus is GOD, he literally came down here and proved it.
No other religion has even close to this proof.
>>75984368
No without God, you can't know that your reasoning is valid
>>75984368
Right? This never cease to amuse me. Andnot only it is "an invisible man who created everything" but he also doesn't like you to masturbate and dooms all inocent hindu kids to eternity in purgatory, yet somehow he is "all-loving".
Endless source of fun =)
>>75984504
>Doesn't know me
>Has never seen me lick nigger feet, assumes I do because "muh christfaggotry"
Czechmate, faggit
>>75984390
Can you know for absolute certainty that you do
>>75984723
>proof
To the twelve disciples, and only them. Sounds fishy.
>>75984607
Burden of proof anon. Did you ever heard about logic?
>>75984723
Never met jesus. No mexicans in Czech republic. Do you consider this a proof? Wow. Pathetic.
would there be Christians if there was no promise of a afterlife reward?
>>75984586
Our "God" is an extension of our moral self worth as decent human beings. We're not in the Stone Age anymore, we as Christians see that through self discipline and charity that one can become truly happy and find self worth in them self if do things for the sake of doing good for humanity.
I would advise you to look into the constructive ideas that these threads provide instead of going off on a tangent stating that you're smarter than everyone else.
>>75984925
Nope
>>75984864
>only to the twelve disciples
And the thousands who observed his miracles.
And the billions who read the scriptures and see the prophecies which have and continue to come true.
>>75984880
You can talk to Jesus right now if you really want. Just sincerely get down on your knees and beg for repentance. He who truly knocks on the door of the Lord is always answered.
>>75984925
No, there might be Deists though.
>>75984586
>Big bang
> Matter cannot be created or destroyed
>Energy cannot be created or destroyed
>Matter and energy are created
Matter arranges itself in complex structures for no reason, eventually evolves to humans
>Requires no proof
Logic is the first casualty of atheism
Back to 9gag, you angsty teen
>>75985058
Amen
>>75984674
Where does it say that they're atheists? Why would atheists have to apologize for something Christians did?
>>75984961
What did the stone age ever do to you?
>>75984825
Of course. I think therefore I am. Not that god will ever say that to you, right =D
What are you gonne do? deny existence to whole reality just to say "hey, nothing is real so god might just as well exist and we don't need proof" or what?
>>75984864
Exactly. Pic related... semi.
>>75984797
> doesn't know god, never saw hm
> asumes he is real because "muh feeeelz"
Sure anon, sure...
>>75984961
>We're not in the Stone Age anymore, we as Christians see that through self discipline and charity that one can become truly happy and find self worth in them self if do things for the sake of doing good for humanity.
You can have all that with stoicism but without the jew glorifying nonsense story around it.
>>75985166
Wait did you use logic to come to that conclusion?
>>75984925
No, Christianity is centered around there being an afterlife. That's the whole reason Jesus dies, so that we may be with Him the in afterlife.
>>75985093
> Matter cannot be created or destroyed
Nice strawman, where did you get that from?
Praise Kek
>But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
Galatians 5:22
>But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.
1 Timothy 6:9-10
>>75983085
God said if a man will not work, neither shall he eat.
We like eating.
>>75985104
>Why would atheists have to apologize for something Christians did?
Because they were teh evil white peoples.
Vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKrXr0v8uBM
>>75985255
Whats so great about Jesus then?
>>75982635
quer dizer que sei eu revirar od dados de qualquer um que vir do rio grande do sul pra cá que seja dessa porra do squaregroup então vai ter os videozinhos do mês pra publicar nos laranjas do pedo empire?
>>75983397
They're as lost as the Catholics; they just have more popes. They're also a works based cult worshiping the "Mother of God" and believe salvation is only for their members.
>>75985371
He Attoned for the sins of the elect
>>75985284
They are simple concepts of chemistry
>>75984961
What does that even mean? "muh feelz"? Is god real or not then? If yes, please provide evidence.
>>75985093
Well actually something can come out of nothing. Quantum physics is basically all about it.
It is not for no reason anon. That you don't understand a laws of nature or the principle of evolution doesn't mean that there must be a god.
>>75985058
Tried that. God never ever answered. Almost like Im mentally healthy and don't hear voices in my head...
Do you really believe the earth is only a few thousand years old?
>>75985447
I dont understand at all
>>75985360
>Because they were teh evil white peoples.
So they're driven by a marxist guilt-complex. What has atheism to do with that?
Okay Pepik, I know that beeing cuck for Germany for few centuries was hard and your ass hurt as hell you little faggot but you are just embarrassing yourself. In no time you will be descibed as
>A
>FUCKING
>TRIANGLE
and all of your fellow Czechs gonna hate you. For what? For edgy shitposting that are on "holy shit /pol/ btfo" tier? Go, read "The Dawkins Delusion?" and if you hate us so much stop bumping this thred.
>>75985371
Jesus is the lamb of God who paid the price and acted as a sacrifice on the cross at calvary, the single greatest event of all of human history. And only through Jesus might a man have his sins paid for and avoid that which he deserves, eternity in hell for breaking God's law.
>>75985284
Matter is a form of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore matter cannot be created or destroyed.
>>75985371
He is the Son aspect of God. He came down to Earth fully human but also fully God as a sacrifice for our sins. We deserved to die because of our sins, but God wouldn't give up on His children and provided a way for them to basically get out free.
>>75984564
In Sweden and Germany
>>75983562
God's pretty sure the universe He made is proof enough that He exists, and the fact that Jesus rose from the dead, the best recorded event in ancient history, suffices to say that Jesus is God.
You stand before God without excuse, and you're trying to pull the ignorance card on the Almighty.
Really bad plan.
>>75985437
As an actual Orthodox Christian, I can confirm that your statement is uninformed, Grade-A bullshit
Reminder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-rD4gD3Oe4
>>75985507
Yep, but being a YEC is not mandatory inorder to be a Christian
>>75985479
>Tried that. God never ever answered. Almost like Im mentally healthy and don't hear voices in my head...
Yes you sound very sincere, gee I wonder why you didn't get an answer.
>>75983696
Yes, when you die, you will see God. And at that point in time, what would you give to come back to today and get in His good graces?
>>75985507
I'm leaning towards no, though I have heard some interesting (non-biblical) arguments for a young earth.
>>75985539
>Marxist guilt-complex
what was Karl Marx again?
>>75985204
Yeah yeah, I know. But it just seems that the religion itself follows stricter guidelines to live by. If you meet Christians and present a constructive argument on your ideas, they will most likely be engaging and happy to yeah you about their understanding of why they are followers of Christ. If you do that with a Muzzie they'll either ignore you or tell you to fuck off of attack you for believing in something different. Hell, you could be Hindu or Bhuddist, it doesn't matter. We respect religions that are respectable.
ITT: Christcucks getting owned in they own (not related to politics btw) thread.
Dark days are coming /pol/.
Trumpfags getting beaten at trump rally,
Christians getting owned at christian thread.
It is official. /pol/ is no longer a christian board.
Reason triumphs.
>>75985470
>They are simple concepts of chemistry
Citation needed.
>>75983789
I wish people would stop treating this as truth.
Jesus said that if you wanted to be like God on your own, then you have to do everything God does.
Do you want to be like God on your own?
>>75985565
But if you dont consider yourself a sinner? Then the religion has nothing to offer, or what?
>>75985757
The first law of thermodynamics, amongst others
>>75985521
We have a sinful nature, and we are naturally rebellious to God, so we can't be with him after we die, but Jesus took the sins of his believers on the cross, so that some may enter into heaven.
>>75985738
>ITT: Christcucks getting owned in they own (not related to politics btw) thread.
That's weird, all I've seen is you getting destroyed and exposed as an edgy underage atheist.
>>75985800
>But if you dont consider yourself a sinner
Then you are a liar/in denial.
>>75985629
How do you know it's God not some tricksy demon answering?
>>75984925
Yes. To be a Christian, you must simply believe the truth that Jesus is Lord, and that God raised Him from the dead.
People can believe the truth without expecting a reward for doing so.
If all Jesus offered me was His companionship in this lifetime, how would I ever repay even that?
>>75985677
Now I've never had a religious convo with a Muslim, but my friend who has said that a lot (much more than you might think) of Muslims aren't too serious with their faith. Like, they'll wear the clothes and what not, but because salvation in Islam is based on works, many make it out to be a cultural thing. So if you're complaining about cultural Christians (oh I'm a Christian because I went to church as a kid), apparently it's much more prevalent in Islam.
>>75985580
How can he be sure, if he is not real anon? Also, I look all around me and see no evidence of god.
If he is almighty, then he should strike e with lightning right here where I sit, alse Im alling him a weak pussy.
>>75985629
Did he answered to you?
Did you heard the god's voice in your head?
>>75985371
He created the universe.
And then He died so that you might live.
>>75985881
A liar in denial? Thats very rude. I dont think this religion is a very constructive one.
>>75985479
A God exists.
But he's not like how you or me would imagine it.
He's not a bearded man in the sky either.
I like to think of him as a force that exists in the presence of everything, he exists but he doesn't. It's really just a bunch of philosophy that I don't like to get into.
Which is why I choose to focus a bit more on the morals than the worshiping part.
>>75985507
Do you not?
>>75985883
Because real life is not Warhammer 40k
Only a devoted Christian can tell the difference
>>75985507
>Do you really believe the earth is only a few thousand years old?
Some do, some don't
I personally don't.
>>75985587
I don't take the word of the lost with regards to Christianity, sorry. You have no framework for understanding the things of God. You only understand your church, because it is not a thing of God.
>>75985479
http://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=12&article=4584
Read this, cry, and then cry some more.
>>75985947
You look about with eyes God made for you, on a world God made for you, breathing air God made for you, and say God does not exist.
Then neither do your eyes, the air, or the world.
>>75982635
Hey CSG, how based are Unitarians?
>>75985574
>In Sweden and Germany
Both majority Christian countries with Germany even being currently governed by a party called Christian Democratic Union.
>>75986034
How can you tell the difference?
>>75985758
Sure man, bible is totally open for interpretation.
Seems like you can interpret anything the way it suits you.
For example Cain might have been the first bull, fucking Eve after he killed her only son and totally cucked adam. I mean, who else could he fuck, right?
How do you like this interpretation?
>>75985881
Sure, you totally exposed me man =)
Now do you have some evidence that god is real man?
Me: 1
God: 0
>>75985947
>>75985580
Also Im still alive, so I got a bad news for you anon - god is a pussy.
>>75986007
Evidence?
Also thats not what bible says, it says that he looks like you or me.
>>75986115
Sure man, Im crying already =D
Imagine how would a world look like full of atheists with no moral you can lie steal cheat do crimes without any consequenes if the cops dont get you.this planet would be down in lets say 10 years.
JESUS CHRIST IS MY SAVOR
>>75986233
We are His sheep, and we know His voice.
>>75985663
>what was Karl Marx again?
A Jew.
>>75985815
>The first law of thermodynamics, amongst others
That's physics, not chemistry, and all it's saying is that energy can't be created nor destroyed.
Who said it was created other than Christians?
>>75986401
>A Jew
He was also.....an Atheist.
>>75986252
There were other people outside of paradise.....
>>75986252
His sister obviously makes more sense than his mother, as his mother continued to have children with Adam after Cain was exiled.
So no, the bible isn't "open for interpretation" to people like you.
God's not a pussy. He's just more patient than you will appreciate later.
>>75986252
You have a foul mouth and a wicked heart, I will pray for you.
Here's a question; if you are so convinced God does not exist, why are you here wasting your time arguing with people about something that doesn't exist?
Once you die it will be nothing you know, forever (according to atheism). You really should be out there embracing hedonism, smoking your wacky tabacky, getting drunk on alcohol, laying with whores, whatever it is you atheists do for pleasure, instead of wasting your one life arguing about something you don't even believe exists.
BEHOLD!
The real body of god!
Here is the evidence!
(This is what christfags actually believe in. It is a shame that I can crush god beneath my feet. No wonder that cucktians are so weak when they woship such a weak god)
Me: 2
God: still 0, strange for someone supposedly almighty.
>>75986177
Shit. The entitlement on you, man. Next school shooter you are
>>75986373
>you can only be moral if you worship Joseph's wife's son
Nice meme.
>>75986489
That's a Catholic thing, not a Christian thing. You must be new here.
>>75986451
How's that relevant to his positions?
>>75986492
I'm the grateful one; you're the one enjoying the Creation and denying the Creator.
If we've learned anything about school shooters, they're loser virgin atheists.
>>75986252
>Now do you have some evidence that god is real
Take a look around you. Look at the world. Look at how complex systems are, at how things are in a perfect balance, at how VERY VERY lucky we are to be here. But is it luck? At what point does the probability of a creator outweigh the probability of a random chance universe?
How can you justify this
God is more important than
>your family
>your country
>your race
>and the future of these groups
How can God be more important than those things?
>>75986513
Haha!
>>75986485
No sister mentioned in the bible.
>>75986486
Are you aware that prayer does absolutely fucking nothing? =D
Answer: Christians are so stupid and pathetic that I get my kik from bullying them. You are all pathetic cucks. Makes me feel full alpha =D
Don't worry, Im full-on hedonist, taking all the plesures available with both hands.
>>75986611
Because without God, none of those things would even exist.
>>75986569
Because it's the goal of atheists to replace God with another form of rational ethics.
Communism, and Marxism was the result of this. Which leads your average hipsterfag at college campuses to talk about how the patriarchal evil white christian men need to be defeated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-rD4gD3Oe4
I'm joining the priesthood (Catholic), to support my NEET lifestyle. What's /pol/ think?
>Free housing & food
>Unlimited Booze
>Roughly 30K a year
What state/country would be the most interesting to be a priest in?
>>75986545
Could it be that I don'tcare about a nuances of your imaginary friends?
>>75986611
Because destroying nuclear family is a part of the plan.
>>75986688
Virtually no woman ever is, as heredity depends on sons, not daughters.
You're so ignorant, and so smug. It's a horrible combination.
>>75986611
Family, country, and race are for 80 years
God is for all eternity.
>When using such "phrases", you will notice they speak as if they were above you, they do not take what you say seriously. In fact it is as though they view you and your opinions in such a negative light, as so clearly inferior, that they were scoffing at you like one would a child, or an animal.
how can I take you seriously when 80 % of you, militant atheist, look like this
>>75986813
Yes, your ignorance in these things Is patently obvious.
>>75986611
>how can the guy who created me, loves me unconditionally and much more than any human ever could. The guy who died on the cross so that my sins (transgressions against Him) may be forgiven, and I may enter into heaven and His presence ONLY because of His unending love for His children. How can I put him above senpai, race, country, or future of those three?
Not too sure.
>>75986893
And are poorly educated, way too old to still be living with their parents, never been kissed virgins with no employable skills.
>>75986813
>claims to not care
>22 shitposts in a /Christian/ thread
Who hurt you anon, that you need to do this in order to feel fulfilled somehow?
>>75986796
>Because it's the goal of atheists to replace God with another form of rational ethics.
>Communism, and Marxism was the result of this.
All I'm seeing there is a failure of the right to create rational ethics as well.
>>75986513
I have the 10 Commandments what you have as an atheist to be a helpful human to society.yeah i know you dont must be a good human being its all about you right?
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>>75986965
Guy, we are called to love our enemies. They are children of God just like we are. Jesus died just as much for them as He did for us.
>>75984273
>anglican
>church literally made to allow king to have a divorce
prothestants are heretics
>>75986610
Suuuuure... that is such a conclusive proof that Im now converting, repentin and will go to church on sunday...
We are so lucky. If we weren't we wouldn't be here in a first place, right?
Also, laws of universe are so smooth that they leave a little room for creator. Sure, there is a lot of what we don't know yet, but we can 100% say that universe was not created in 7 days. Shouldn't that be proof enough to see that bble is made up by men? and please don't give me that "muh interpretations" crap.
>>75986802
Poland.
Also good point - priests are professional NEETs since the begining of time =D
>>75987145
Those people are not my enemies; they are flesh and blood.
I will continue to fight my enemies as I see fit.
>It's an edgy atheists swarm a christian thread episode
>>75986965
Not to mention bitter toward the very people who brought them into existence.
>>75987015
As I said, I get my kicks from making fun out of silly, weak and cucked chritians =)
REMINDER:
Jesus loves refugees and muslims.
>>75987039
>All I'm seeing there is a failure of the right to create rational ethics as well.
See, now you're basically admitting that you are a leftist.
But what you're saying is entirely inaccurate, even the most leftist nations use Christian ideology as a basis for their laws.
The 10 commandments have long been a guideline for rational ethics.
When you throw out God from a society, you throw out the entire moral method of how to get people to conform to social norms in western society.
Because people followed those norms because they believed in God.
and it has been the task of Atheists since then to replace those ethics, and it's been pretty unsuccessful and results in the feminist pro-gay agendas you see today.
Priests - Professional NEETs since the begining of time.
>>75987320
I would love to see a study about fatherless children correlated to atheism.
The only reason white people became the masters of the world is because of God's love for them because we were Christians and obeyed Jesus Christ's words. And now that white man has turned his back on Jesus Christ, we have been beset upon by evil.
If we simply turn back to Jesus Christ, we would have no more Muslims and other non-white heathens genociding our people by invading our nations, taking our women and jobs and infiltrating our governments.
The meek shall inherit the Earth and we are now facing God's punishment.
>>75987093
That's not how the English language works.
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>>75983455
See >>75985555
We get it. Really. Now you can go.
>>75987523
>>75987263
>and please don't give me that "muh interpretations" crap.
Do you listen to music?
>>75987413
Yes of course He loves His children. What's the big issue?
>>75987558
and thats not an argument.
for better english >>>
>>75987456
>>75986845
This +
God can save you wheatever you do
God gives you superpowers if you're not a fucking retard
God commands angels to watch over you in case you're being a fucking retard trying to kill yourself
God doesnt let you get raped or killed
>>75987456
>See, now you're basically admitting that you are a leftist.
>what is third position?
>even the most leftist nations use Christian ideology as a basis for their laws
I know, why do you think I oppose it so much? That egalitarian shit is killing us if you haven't noticed.
>>75985738
Masonry is in no way christian
>>75987625
Having to rely on other peoples' arguments is also not an argument :^)
>>75987594
Yes, music is nice. And man-made.
>>75987652
Evidence for thes outrageous claims anon?
>>75987556
So now he loves muslims and jews more?
>>75987456
>ten commandment
>not open to interpretation
>>75987842
its basicially what im saying.but you cant refute it.YOU CANT.you have NO MORAL grounds as atheists.
>>75987495
We get it, you're dumb, you can leave
>>75987589
Well ain't that a bitch. They didn't bother asking about their belief in God.
I've just realized that Jamaica is twice as rare ad Reunion. Just thought I'd point that out. Was kinda cool, and Somalia has only ~100 more posts.
>>75987930
>Yes, music is nice. And man-made.
Right ok. And I assume that there's some genre's that you like and some you don't?
>>75987930
Im a living and observable evidence . Come check me out and study me.
>>75987951
>you have NO MORAL grounds as atheists.
Sure, you have humanism, natural law, game theory.
But why do you even need a ground for morals in the first place?
>>75987780
>I know, why do you think I oppose it so much? That egalitarian shit is killing us if you haven't noticed.
So basically you're trying to replace Christian morality with Atheist morality. But then we come down to the problem of subjective morality.
With Christians we have a set guideline of principles for behavior.
Atheists do not have these guidelines, so they have to make up their own. But it's impossible to get them all to agree. One Atheist could think that cannibalism is right, and another could think cannibalism is wrong. But since there is no set guideline for them to follow they can't agree on this.
Therefore, all Atheistic Government is based loosely on Christian ideology and morality, while at the same time warping it and shifting away from it. It doesn't work, as you have seen for yourself.
>>75988124
It's the existence of morality that provides evidence for an objective basis for reality, and that objective basis is God.
Without God, there is no objective basis for morality. Only subjective and collective.
>>75985310
Former athiest here, in what god did they trust, it is amazing that when you actualy read the bible you can see what is wrong in this world
>For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils.
Christians, what is your best argument for Christianity being true?
>>75988118
Sorry but Im not gay.
Also - evidence of what? God? Don't make me laugh. The cookie here >>75986489
is far greater proof of god then you will ever be... and you know what? Cookies proves nothing =D
>>75987966
No anon. You leaf.
>>75988069
Sure, I guess thats because some patterns resonae better in my skull =D. Also probybly childhood influeces family traditions, peer presure and pop culture. We are social animals after all.
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>>75982743
Cool copypasta. Could you go find one that explains why some of the most militaristic and succesful civilizations in human history have been Christian? Or how one that explains why all the atheist leaders of modern superpowers (Hitler, Stalin, Mao) were mass murderers? Atleast find me one that explains why , after 1900 years of western civilization living under Christianity, this glaring flaw that only were were smart enough to see would start destroying us now?
>>75987951
I hope you stone you fellow man wor working on sabath anon.
Also, how can a bible be standard for anything if it is open to interpretation?
>>75988291
>So basically you're trying to replace Christian morality with Atheist morality.
What is Atheist morality? Why do you act as if it's an uniform entity?
>But then we come down to the problem of subjective morality.
You as a subject choose to abide by Christian moral guidelines, eventually due to the threat of harm if you don't abide by them.
How's that any different than any law we currently have except for the threat of harm that's actually real, visible and for everyone to test?
>>75988310
You can't prove which god is real so how could yours be the objective basis for reality?
>>75988529
Jesus rose from the dead.
>>75988124
How many follow humanism in the world nowadays.How humanism or Naturlaws will punish you if you steal cheat murder or whatever.Only Cops can do that in your world and only if they get you.i believe that in the afterlife you get punished if you dont follow this 10 commendments.Western politicers could rob a whole country without punishment if they dont get caught by cops.but thats not how it works (in my world)
>>75988529
Well, it is false so that prett much sums it up, right?
I mean, we already know that univers was not created in seven days, there was no global flood and no cookie an ever turn into body of god (mainly because there is no god though, there is nothing wron with the cookie =) )
>>75988719
His name is Jesus.
Perhaps you've heard of Him. Nice guy, did lots of miracles, rose from the dead. That's Him.
>>75988751
proof of this extraordinary claim?
>>75988595
>Also - evidence of what? God? Don't make me laugh
Ofc you're gay
>>75988751
How can you know this?
>>75988842
Six days, there was a global flood, one cracker did turn into human cardiac tissue as a satanic miracle for the current black pope, but they don't talk about that a lot.
>>75988847
except that he never existed.
Also, how can miracles be real if magic is not real anon =D
>>75988902
Yes, that is the proof of Jesus' extraordinary claim to be God.
>>75988920
You have to be told it by God, and you have to agree with God that it is true.
>>75988719
>What is Atheist morality? Why do you act as if it's an uniform entity?
It's not, that's my point. There is no uniform morality for Atheism which means it cannot offer up a rational code of ethics to match Christian ideology.
>You as a subject choose to abide by Christian moral guidelines, eventually due to the threat of harm if you don't abide by them.
Here's where it gets interesting.
I submit to you that the Austrian Government is just as real as God.
>>75988992
Miracles > magic, as Moses demonstrated in pharaoh's court.
>>75988939
sure friend, whatever. Did you also hear angelic voices n your head?
>>75989102
I've heard choirs of angels sing, yes. It was awesome.
Where do you hear things? In your elbows?
>>75988809
>How many follow humanism in the world nowadays.How humanism or Naturlaws will punish you if you steal cheat murder or whatever.
Why are you trying to move the goalpost? I could ask you the same; how many follow proper Christianity nowadays and how do you even determine which is the proper one, considering all the bickering between all the sects?
>Western politicers could rob a whole country without punishment if they dont get caught by cops.but thats not how it works (in my world)
In my world you either rise up and punish them yourself or endure the fact that they'll go without punishment.
In your world it's the same but with the added power fantasy and impotent rage of a judge in the afterlife you don't know exists.
Which do you think is more likely to affect the real world?
>>75989176
God is the Head of the Church. That it seems messy to you is because He's not a fascist.
That's right. Hitler's yours and Mozart is Germany's.
>>75987355
Thats funny we laugh about you now , and we will laugh even harder when you try to send your memes from hell
>>75982955
Xth Crusade!
Coming soon!
>>75989094
Sure he did anon. I don't like to run it for you but we are in a universe governed by laws. No magic, no miracles, no god. Im really sorry anon.
>>75989011
Wow, you totally proved it now. I mean, how can now anyone be anything else then a christian?
I mean, it is written in a book your parents liked so it must be 100% truth!
Pathetic anon, sad and pathetic.
I claim that god i a pussy. It is writtn here and Im a living breathing proof that it i in fact a fact. Deal with it. Also, wash my feet. With your tongue.
>>75988847
Others would say that his name is Allah and his prophet is Mohammed.
Gods are a shitty foundation of objective reality when that objective reality doesn't support your specific god being the foundation of it.
Your morality is as subjective as mine.
>>75989438
You define reality?
You are God?
kek
>>75988529
Heathers are wiped from the planet earlier or later. And plenty of miracles nowadays ofc. From apparitions of Our Lady and miraculous healings to lightning strikes in precise times/places.
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltgeschehen/article113588634/Blitz-schlaegt-im-Petersdom-ein-Zufall-oder-Zeichen.html
>>75989176
Are you serious?The whole Western society where you life is built up on the 10Commandments and Christianity.So many follow them even if you just follow the law.
>>75989149
Now, Im mentally healty, thanks.
>>75989384
Sure mate, Im worried sick from a terrible, yet non existent. punishment eternal =D now you really got me.
>>75987930
A wise son will not reject his Father's discipline. Jews and Muslims are to make us turn back to Christ through suffering.
>>75989452
Yes, and when you look into those claims, you find that allah is Hubal is HaBaal, the Ba'al of the Moabites, the demon god of the Chaldeans.
And then you study Mohammad's life, how he murdered and looted 800 innocent men, wiping out their tribe, charging protection money while he violated peace treaties, and married a 6 year old girl at age 54, well, if that's your "holy man", expect hell as your reward.
>>75989452
The moral argument he's making is a simple argument from ignorance. Even if he could prove the existence of 100% objective morality it doesn't prove a god exists, there's no connection there. And even if you proved a connection, which god would it be?
>>75989604
So you do hear voices in your head?
Because it was such a strange thing to post. I thought maybe your English just sucked.
>>75989051
>There is no uniform morality for Atheism which means it cannot offer up a rational code of ethics to match Christian ideology.
Any code of ethics can match Christian ideology, since the basis of both is subjects choosing to abide by them.
I think we can come up with something more coherent and more suited for our current needs than Christianity, and that means abolishing what's causing a lot of harm, like Christianity.
>I submit to you that the Austrian Government is just as real as God.
Are you ignoring "visible and for everyone to test" on purpose?
>>75983629
You can love your enemies and still kill them.
For if you have a cloak, sell it, and purchase a sword.
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>>75989512
Sure I am. I wrote a book about it so it must be true =D
Now please get on your knees and lick my feet.
>>75989542
Our lady? Where is the conversion of russia then? What about unified church anon? =D Don't tell me that Mary the Mother lied?
Or could it be just mass hysteria anon?
>>75989721
>Are you ignoring "visible and for everyone to test" on purpose?
Absolutely not.
Because your Government, and each of your laws are just as real as you claim God to be.
As in, they are non-existent. Your Government doesn't exist. It's not real.
and I will prove it to you.
>>75989649
1. Observe world.
2. Notice there seems to be a global sense of morality.
3. Attempt to explain why people of all tribes have similar beliefs on what is good and what is evil.
4. Realize that there must be an objective basis for morality to make such a thing possible.
You: lalalalalalalalalalalalala I can't hear you God lalalalalalalalalalalalala as you rock back and forth in the corner.
There are many things your worldview cannot explain for you.
Origin
Meaning
Morality
Destiny
It's time to stop living like an animal, by your senses, and start living like a human being, by faith.
Atheists submit to the state. Christians submit to a higher power. As Bob Dylan said after he found Christ, "it may be the devil, and it may be the law, but you're gonna have to serve somebody."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIEYjNZgiU
>>75989706
Sure, you just need to turn the other cheek like a weak member of the curch of the weak.
>>75989542
Also interesting how no one ever miraculously faith-heals a lost limb.
Are you roleplayer, anon?
>>75989290
>That's right. Hitler's yours and Mozart is Germany's.
What are you trying to say with this? (Salzburg is in Austria by the way)
>>75989556
>The whole Western society where you life is built up on the 10Commandments and Christianity
Why don't you point out in our legal code how that's the case?
>>75989639
Are you missing the point on purpose?
>>75989895
>Your Government doesn't exist
I have a colleague who follows Messianic Judaism. Can a Christian redpill me on this strange belief? What should I look out for?
Also she believes God is punishing Germany for supporting Palestine, something that I actually kind of agree with.
Everything needed to dismiss the photo http://armariummagnus.blogspot.com/2009/10/gods-philosophers-how-medieval-world.html?m=1
I am Jesus reincarnated and I have proof; God told me.
>>75989895
>and I will prove it to you.
Go on.
>>75989908
4 is a non-sequitur.
>>75989908
Jesus... the fact that your head is too small to contemplate these things without god is no way a proof of gods existence.
Also - global morality evlved from our biology witch we all share (or do you think tha cannibals from papua new guinea also listened to the christ? and if not, how come?)
>believing in imaginary friends
>as an adult
>>75990045
The point is to challenge the claims of everyone who says anything about God.
When you challenge Islam, their claims fall apart.
>>75990209
>believing in the sort of imaginary friend who'd get bullied by other imaginary friends
That's the worst part.
>>75989809
These prophecies could easily be faked by devil-possessed hierarchs. What is much more important, Fatima is just one amongst many apparitions of 20th century. There were dozens of them and the number of witnesses is counted in millions.
>unified church
= church of antichrist, it's pretty clear, be wary of it.
>>75989908
>2. Notice there seems to be a global sense of morality.
>3. Attempt to explain why people of all tribes have similar beliefs on what is good and what is evil.
>Mormon and Arab polygamy, ancient Greek pedophilia and infanticide, Chinese foot-binding, Japanese ritual suicide, Aztec human sacrifice, African female genital mutilation, Islamic ritual murder (“honor killings”), terrorism and suicide bombings, medieval European totalitarian monarchy and inquisitions, Nazi eugenics and racism, even Christian-inspired slavery and colonialism, oppression of women, and anti-Semitism
Men far brighter than you have tried to make the moral argument work and they all failed miserably. I've heard your brand several times before already
>>75990080
I can. Basically she's Ethnically Jewish and accept Jesus as God and Messiah
She's a Christian Jew.
I'm technically one of those, but I'm just Catholic.
>>75990157
People will claim that God doesn't exist, and that Government DOES exist.
This is simply not true.
Government is a concept. The Government and the State is simply a concept within the mind, just like you say God is.
You might say that the Government has more legitimacy because it has Government buildings.
Yes, that's true, and for Religion there are buildings called Churches.
and you might further claim that Government is real because there are people in costumes called Police.
and I would simply tell you that the same thing goes for Christians, there are people in costumes in the church called Priests.
So there is the CONCEPT of Government, and there are beliefs about that Government, which everyone conforms and follows. It's ideology which is enforced by people much like the ideology of Christianity is enforced by people.
But it isn't physical in any way.
We have been given a temple to take care of. It is the duty of the templer to look after his temple and to respect his own and other temples.
We are not temples. We are the templers, the spirits within the temple. The Father creates a temple and places within the spirit of ourselves.
We have always been here but never knew. Our spirit came into this world and inhabited the temple of man. And while in this temple our spirit is given the word. The word gives us our understanding of the world it brings us to the Father. It is the word that we will take with us when we leave this world. The word is a spirit it has no weight or mass, its existence is undeniable.
>>75990621
Nice to see you India!
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>>75984564
Christians who are pro refugees are heretics.
>70 percent of atheists are liberals
>most liberals support refugees
>telling Christians they are the cucks
WEW LAD
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>ITT
>>75983220
u wot m8?
>>75982635
I used to be an atheist but now I'm having doubts, I've cried and talked to God but I feel nothing, what do I do ?
>>75991065
>am atheist
>fucking hate the idea of libertarian ideology
>fucking hate stinky refugees fucking up the entire planet
Guess I'm the other 30 percent.
I grew up in a Christian environment and believe in a Creator, but issues run into why God would make it required that baby boys' genitals all be mutilated before Christ came here. Think about it. People mutilated baby dicks in the name of God. Pretty cruel if you ask me. I believe in God and Christ, but sometimes if I wonder if the Bible (OT in particular) is actually God's Word.
>>75991611
Actually, you're taking the first steps.
The comforting thing you should know is that whoever truly seeks God will always find him.
A very important thing for you to determine is, whether or not you love yourself.
Do you love yourself, anon?
>>75991611
Take god into your mouth.
>>75991857
Of course I do, but not in an arrogant way but in a way that shows my appreciation for life, I don't know what to do, I've weeped like a child in front of portraits of Jesus and I feel like I'm talking to myself, I can't see any signs of God
>>75985507
Not really
>>75992018
Well if you love yourself then that's good.
You must find love within yourself, and for yourself. So that you can feel fulfillment in that way.
It's written that you must "Love your neighbor as yourself"
You're right, there's a difference between loving yourself and being arrogant.
God loves you, and wants you to love yourself and to share your love with other people.
Vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgLehjvgyOQ
>>75991767
The notion that the bible is the word of god really makes me question the intelligence of people of faith. Just look at the number of times the bible has been rewritten. I have been raised in a Catholic family and my uncle even works for the Vatican as a diplomat ( nuntius). I understand why people look for religion as an explanation and I too want to believe. But I don't believe in a creator... Besides the word god is such a broad term. Some imagina a white guy in the heaven and others call it love or energy or even karma. I really don't give a fuck what you believe in but i have very strong feelings about the Catholic church. A bunch of pedophiles. Remember the Dutroux case? And I hate the phrase God bless America. American exceptionalism at it's best!
