Donald Trump attempts a shake down on the world, by threatening to go back on any and all allies unless they "pay up more and show respect." How do you feel about our first mobster president?
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/his-first-day-office-president-trump-will-tell-allies-he-wont-defend-them-if-they-dont-pay?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
>>75980188
based Don
No one is forcing them to accept the US aid, they can just say no
>>75980188
I love it. As someone who thinks all Republicans and Democrats should be rounded up and sent to extermination camps, Trump is making violence between the supporters of these parties more and more likely every day. If we can get this to a point where Republicans and Democrats are killing each other in the streets, that will be the real victory. DEAD REPUBLICANS + DEAD DEMOCRATS = WIN/WIN
Is being the worlds janitor what we really want?
Not asking for our pound of flesh is taking losses.
He should just outright end it
>>75980188
>allies
more like frienemies.
>>75980332
>No one is forcing them to accept the US aid
FUCKING LOL
The CIA is glad you don't know what they do.
>>75980423
While I'd like for us to not be the world's policeman, it would create chaos to simply end it, and would leave us as vulnerable as the rest of the world to an even worse power taking over.
So at least making this a fair deal is a great idea for now and as a step toward reconsidering how we should all be doing things.
>>75980550
Cia posting in 3....2.....1....
>>75980188
>"HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR FAIR COMPENSATION FOR THE HELP YOU'RE PROVIDING OUR NATION"
>"YOU'RE A MAFIA BOSS"
>>75980550
foreign aid is basically a bribe to let them run their black ops.
>>75980188
We're not obligated to defend jack shit. They are not entitled to our involvement or protection. They have taking the USA for granted. Trump is 100% correct about this.
>>75981407
Most of which seem to be counterproductive anyway.
Time to start purging. We need effective, efficient, intelligent black ops.
>>75980188
great
Except like the little shop owner these people WANT our protection
>>75980929
>thats a big prediction
>allies
Are these the same "allies" who never pay their NATO bills while simultaneously shit talking America for being racist gun obsessed warmongers? What kind of allies are these? Why are we in an alliance with these people? Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago? Why can't we make new allies? Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago?
>Previously, Trump said he would prefer that countries acquired nuclear weapons rather than continue military alliances with the U.S. that he thinks are too expensive.
woah imagine if every single country have nukes
saudi arabia, iran, qatar, oman, mexico, cuba
i bet nothing could go wrong
>>75982421
I wonder if NATO has rules about supporting countries that practice genocide, like most of the ones in NATO are currently with all these rapefugees?
And also, do you have any idea what it's going to cost when they start jihadding left and right?
>>75981561
What protection? Exactly what has america "protected" their allies from? You know, when their not handing out guns to terrorists and bombing civilians?
>>75980188
That`s literally the most retard thing you can do. The one thing that could endanger the position of the US as the global hegomon is losing europe.
And in case you missed it: You are pretty much hated everywhere west of the former GDR
Thank you for making this thread to keep the cucks contained
I am not a #johnsonhead
>>75980188
Isn't the UK the only NATO member state that spends the minimum 2% of GDP required on defense?
Asking for fair compensation isn't a shakedown.
>>75982767
Europe lost itself, Muhammed
>>75982375
UUUU
>>75982375
For you
>>75982453
We and China will stop them from obtaining nukes. That would be easy if USA won't protect them. We won't actually have to do it, the threat of Chienese and Russian troops will be enough, just like today with the threat of American troops.
>>75982888
I know you can only comprehend geopolitics when it is reduced to memes, reddit, but you should shut up if you don`t have anything even remotly relevant to add.
>>75980188
fantastic
suck our dicks world
>>75983046
I would like to see something like this take place as part of our improved relationship. Nobody likes those fuckers other than the filthy neocons in our government who need a good purging. It's something we can agree on.
>>75982633
NO ONE fucks with a country that has American troops in it. Prove me wrong.
>>75982767
America is well aware that Europe is not our friend. No one in America thinks Europe is our ally. You spit in our face while you shake our hand. This is how it's been for decades.
If all you have for threats are, "We will be even less a friend than we are now!", then I don't know what to tell you. America would also have no problems going to war with Europe (again) if you continue on with your absurd death march, allying with the muslim horde and communists.
>>75983046
This sounds like an amazing plan.
>>75980188
Good. Hopefully this means an end to American antagonism towards Russia, and an end to European expansion eastwards.
This could mean China gets control over east Asia, however, if the US decides to stop freely taking on South Korean, Japanese and to a certain extent Taiwanese security.
>>75982421
>while simultaneously shit talking America for being racist gun obsessed warmongers?
Foreign policy isn't dependent on what people write in the papers.
>Why are we in an alliance with these people?
To keep them on the American leash, NATO is an "empire by invitation".
>Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago?
Yes, but it still aids in expressing American power today.
>Why can't we make new allies? Because of some shit that happened over 60 years ago?
The only countries who aren't US-aligned are: Russia, Iran, Syria, China and North Korea. Maybe some countries in Africa, but who gives a shit.
A US-Russia alliance could be possible, but would require pulling support for the EU (which I think is a good plan).
Good luck convincing any of the other countries.
>>75980188
>How do you feel about our first mobster president?
Kennedy was a pretty cool guy
>>75980188
Good, maybe it will force our shitty government to actually invest in our own military for once
ABSOLUTE
FUCKING
MAD
MAN
>>75983521
We'll always have you faggot's back. You're attached to our hip. Like our little retarded nephew below us.
>>75983395
I can never tell if you are really that retard, or think it is some masterpiece of trolling when burgers show that much disregard for anything political.
>>75983227
Imagine if we could together topple the Saudi king and Qatar emir. Occupy Mecca, bomb the wahhabi fuckers in Riyadh...
>>75983662
We'd fuck you and Europe up without taking a breath.
>>75983726
America and Russia allied could do amazing things. Like occupy mars in a decade,
WARREN G HARDING WAS OUR FIRST MOBSTER PRESIDENT, DUMMY
>>75983726
It wouldn't take much. We could do it ourselves easily enough if our people actually wanted to.
But maybe it's one of those things where we can start to make it part of the basis for a bigger global strategy in order to sort of realistically force the process along and set something into motion.
>>75983395
>America is well aware that Europe is not our friend.
France helped us "win" our revolutionary war, but only because the British admirals were drunken whoring gamblers who racked up huge debts at the tables
>>75980929
Well, congratulations, you've made me post. Now what's the next step in your master plan?
>>75980188
>Trump Wont Defend Allies Unless They Pay Up
good
>>75984117
Sliding this thread.
>With no survivors
>>75980188
Hes right.
Ever been to South Korea before? Americans are straight up not allowed to enter many businesses and are looked down upon, yet here we are spending billions on protecting their fucking country. And for what? Who gives a shit about North Korea? The Cold War is DEAD.
Fuck them, and fuck Europe too, who laugh at our way of life and military spending (so we can protect their faggot asses) while their surplus budgets from their own lack of military spending goes towards their own infrastructure and social programs.
Ive had enough. Fuck these faggots. Either put on your Big Boy Pants and learn to protect yourselves or fall to Darwinism.
I believe you Leftists love to claim "America is not the world police"- well, I agree. Were not. So good luck to you, youre going to need it.
>>75980332
Uh, you don't get to bring allies.
>>75980925
>and would leave us as vulnerable as the rest of the world to an even worse power taking over.
And that would be....? Putin likes him and China won't dare overstep their bounds
>>75980188
This is bad how?
We'll just get better allies, like Russia and China.
Eat shit the rest of the world.
>>75983866
>Just imagine what we could do if we all just become friends and work together
Truly suprising how you managed to sound exactly the same as diehard liberals a few decades ago.
>>75983788
Sure. Let`s ignore european nukes for a moment and assume you managed to take the continent over. Then you have to deal with occupying the second most densly populated continent or glass it, all the while managing the backlash from all around the world. And that`s not even taking into account the homefront.
But sure, a country that couldn`t even win against rice farmers armed with nothing but the oldest soviet arms could totally do that, if it makes you feel better about yourself.
pay the fuck up europe / build wall
>Trump also said that as president he will immediately act to undo President Obama’s executive actions on immigration reform and build the Keystone XL pipeline, with a hefty new tax on the corporations that benefit from it.
>>75984484
That won`t stop Putin from taking over whatever he can first chance he gets. That man has a single goal, and that`s restoring Russia to great power status. He wouldn`t think twice about grabing europe or the middle-east, if you serve them to him on a silver plate like that.
As for China, they are already overstepping their bounds, to use your phrasing. Or do you think they are claiming these islands just for fun?
>>75982767
>Western Europe hates you!
>REEEE WHY WONT YOU SPEND BILLIONS PROTECTING US????
Straight out the Krauts mouth. Whats the matter Kraut? Afraid youll have to actually grow some balls and spend that money used for your faggy little social programs on your own military infrastructure? Good, you should be. We know you hate us, and we are going to fuck you over for it so hard. You think the Refugee crisis is bad? Just wait until Trump gets into power and has his way with you. Life as you know it in Krautland is FINISHED.
>>75983046
china and russia are already nations that dont give a fuck about anything,
reminder, only the us are giddy about iran and iraq building their own nukes, other nations seems to dont give a fuck.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Sounds like a dangerous game.
On one hand every NATO country must be respecting the rules and spending 2% on military (right now it's only the UK, Estonia and maybe one or two others)
But this can fuck up the security order because some countries who don't feel threatened by anything will decide to just quit and leave those on the front lines weakened.
>>75980188
>>75980188
Wonderful. I've been sick of being the world's police for many years.
>>75985118
>That man has a single goal, and that`s restoring Russia to great power status
He wants the best for his country? Wow!
I'm sure the world can defend itself just fine without us.
>>75985347
Next thing you know you have to come to Europe and liberate it again at a great cost.
People take for granted and don't value peace and security until they lose it.
>>75983073
>Import shitskins
>They ruin country
>"It was all apart of our master plan"
"Geopolitics"
>>75980188
>>75980402
Good. We've been taken advantage of for far too long. They ask for help and then turn around and shit on us while doing so. Look at France and Eagles of Death Metal, those guys were our citizens, subjected to terrorist attacks on THEIR soil and they have the audacity to tell them they can't come back because they said mean things about the people who attacked them.
That's when you call the President of France and say "Do you actually want help with fighting terrorism or not? Because I can just let you deal with this yourself if you're going to treat my citizens like crap."
>>75985170
>Getting that butthurt about people pointing out facts
Are you that insecure?
Anyway, sure, the "contract" between the US and europe for the last 70 years or so has been that you finance our defense and we don`t do our own thing or cush up with the Soviets (now Russia, but for the balance of power that really isn`t relevant).
>>75985312
I don`t know why burgers get so butthurt the moment someone points out facts. Or do you really think stating the truth is an attack on someone?
>>75985606
Europe needs to be liberated right now.
>>75985118
>He wouldn`t think twice about grabing europe or the middle-east, if you serve them to him on a silver plate like that.
Maybe then Europe will finally value the work America puts into their countries and actually put it towards self defense
Good. No more free rides. Euros bitch about how we ran things, while we kept paying for them to be "Better" then us. Let them have their WWIII, Europe so dose like it's Global Wars, and dragging everyone else into em. Then bitching about it
>>75980362
I think you sharpened your edge too much
>>75985687
>butthurt butthurt butthurt
I'm just admiring him for being a leader that wants the best for his country.
I get that in Germanistan you were raised on the belief that liking your own country is a sin, but please stop forcing that belief on others.
>>75985806
Fuck them. Let's watch them burn so we can try and make an example out of them and "muh globalism"
>>75985806
Bullshit. People voted for retarded politicians but that will stop soon unless those politicians change their ways. It's clear that they understand it too.
I guess you'll have to cut back on all that "free" healthcare and schooling when you actually have to put some money up to protect yourself for once.
>>75985222
>But this can fuck up the security order because some countries who don't feel threatened by anything will decide to just quit and leave those on the front lines weakened.
Good I hope this happens. Weak countries that don't want to pay for their fair share of the defense alliance can be invaded for all I care.
>ITT: Buttmad Eurofags who will have to actually confront rapefuges and tell them there is no more money for them because they need more tanks.
I bet you won't even look them in the eyes.
>>75985619
You pretty much did the same, a few centuries ago. Come back when we get our Ferguson, our niggers taking over colleges and when our babies are majority minorites.
All that is happening in the US right now.
>>75985890
I agree. It`s just doubtful that it would be to your advantage.
>>75985981
Your passive-aggressive tone dosn`t really work in your favor when calling others butthurt.
>>75986090
>thinking the EU dictatorship is going to give control back to the people
I hope Russia takes them over.
>>75981022
That's liberal logic.
>People need to do things for me out of the kindness of their own heart, because it would be a nice thing to do!
>But I don't have to do anything for anyone else because I'm oppressed and in need.
As you see, it leads to the "exploited" being quite exploitative themselves.
>>75981561
Actually we are. The Constitution says we have to defend our allies like they are ourselves. The Founders put that in there because America was trying to make friends in it's early days and tried to say "Yall help us kick Britians ass and we got your back later!"
It's kind of fucking us over now.
>>75985606
Pay up and you won't lose it.
>>75986325
Yep. So it's time to say, pay up, or go fight among yourselves. We've done our part, then their part. Fucking done
>>75986195
It's bullshit that the EU is a dictatorship somehow. People voted like idiots, that's the problem.
Russia with allies is where the oppressive family dictatorships are on our continent. I don't want that shit to spread.
>>75980188
>World leaders trying to tell Americans who to elect
>Literally shitting their pants right now
and this is bad how?
>>75986325
>The Constitution says we have to defend our allies like they are ourselves
What? No it doesn't.
>>75986556
The EU is full of unelected bureaucrats. The only hope for it falling peacefully is Brexit happening and then the rest of the EU collapsing financially.
>>75986575
More of an Implying thing, you have our backs, we've got yours. Europe turned its back on us, and left us open, while bitching we are monsters, etc. Honor use to be a good bond. Now it's being used instead. No damn honor among our allies, just GibsmeDat and protectsmeplox
>>75986194
USA
>Import sub human slaves
>Cucked libtards arise
>"Dey ppl to"
>Set free
>Country goes to sit
Libtards: "Much better"
EU
>Cucked Libtards
>"Muh dyvercity"
>Import shitskins
>Country goes to shit
Libtards: "Much better"
>>75986194
>It`s just doubtful that it would be to your advantage
Geopolitically what sense would it make to protect people who don't like us, won't pay us back and challenge our way of life every chance they get, just because of some cold war bogeyman.
We're hemmoraging money because you fucks can barely afford your socialist lifestyle, so fuck you we need to recooperate.
>>75980188
They violated the treaties by not paying. They reneged. We have every right to withdraw our forces if they don't feel they're worth the cost.
>>75986631
You don't know what you're talking about. You don't vote for every secretary in your stupid African government, do you? It's the same in the EU. Elected officials appoint some bureaucrats to do stuff.
>>75986741
Ayy. Liberals are the cancer that is killing the west.
>>75986744
We (as in germoney) are actually making a surplus. We are fucking over pretty much everyone else in the process, but we are more than cable of picking up. It`s just that nobody really wants to.
>>75980925
It's called leverage. Every single one of these countries will pay up. Why? For the same reason as Mexico, its much cheaper to just pay. It would cost way more if they actually had to defend themselves.
>>75986730
It just says that the President has the power to sign treaties/alliances with foreign nations with 2/3rds of senate approval. Nothing about being nice or whatever. Of course, we are free to shred up stuff.
>>75986833
I vote for all of my local/state officials and politicians. I would agree that the US federal government has too much bureaucracy, but it's not nearly as bad as the EU.
>>75986949
Your show now, Germany. Have fun.
>>75987104
>Leaving europe in germanys hand
I don't know what could go wrong at all
>>75986325
>FUCKING AMERICA WORLD POLICE WHY WONT YOU GUYS GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRIES YOU FUCKING IMPERIALISTS
>HOW DARE YOU THREATEN TO NOT DEFEND US FOR FREE ANYMORE YOU EVIL ISOLATIONISTS
This is the logic of entitlement, this is what happens when America doesn't exert its will.
>>75987016
Hence, the inply. We say, although it's not written down, just so we can shred it if we need to. And we need to
>>75987016
>. I would agree that the US federal government has too much bureaucracy, but it's not nearly as bad as the EU.
It's much worse in the USA because you live in a real federation. Meaning, dirt poor Alabama gets the same pensions, medicare payments, etc as New York. It's not like that in the EU with most things.
>>75987186
Not our problem. Europe says we suck at it, etc. Let's see what will happen
>>75980188
Good it time we stop being the worlds baby sitter, if you dont support us why the fuck should we support you?
>>75986833
You don't elect the people who write the laws and regulations for the entire EU. They are completely unaccountable, most people don't even know who they are. You don't see that as a problem? Do you not see how easily a system like this would be corrupted by financial interests? You know, like Facebook and Twitter.
>>75986949
>We (as in germoney) are actually making a surplus.
Because we are spending billions of dollars supporting you
>>75980188
>Russia invades Europe
>Allows countries to surrender peacefully if they refuse to hire US to defend them
>Well whatever, everyone agrees because no country would've even had the money needed for defense.
>Repeat with China in Asia
>If US stays passive, soon it will only have influence in the US, while Russia and China will control the rest of the world.
>globalists win
To avoid this, US would end up having to defend its interests in other countries anyways. If US wants to reach into other countries businesses, it has no other choice than to defend those countries when they're threatened, or lose them to the opposing side.
>>75987232
You can't really compare states to sovereign (eh) nations. And we still elect that Federal government, also.
>>75987232
The US is meant to be a federation and we elected the majority of our government besides the judicial branch. The EU is full of shit like the European Commissioner who are unelected, unaccountable, and dangerous.
>EU shits won't pay for their own defense
>they take that money and set up "free healthcare and college"
>which leads to Bernie saying we must gib free healthcare and college too
The whole system is beyond fucked.
>>75987424
>passive
That implies these countries wouldn't be bending the knee IMMEDIATELY after Trump's inauguration. There won't be a Russian invasion, if there is, it will be us and Russia invading Europe to liberate it from the Muslims, and then we'd probably split it, WW2 style.
Even if we did pull out completely, we certainly wouldn't be passive under a President Trump.
>>75987340
But we do. That`s what the EU parliament does
>>75987468
They are appointed by the governments of the EU. They aren`t elected because the governments don`t want it.
>>75987631
>They are appointed by the governments of the EU. They aren`t elected because the governments don`t want it.
Yeah and I think that's insane and anti-democratic.
>>75987340
As I just explained, the EU is not really one country like the USA. Relatively few laws get written for the entire EU >>75987232
Those kind of laws are basically trade agreements which every country signs,
And it's not true that people are completely unelected. You're confusing it with a different line of criticism here. That they aren't appointed by any one country. It's stupid, we have to get along.
>>75987426
> And we still elect that Federal government,
No, you elect *one guy* who appoints them.
>>75987424
>America allies with Russia
>Russia, China and America split the world, russia gets euro, China gets all of asia, America takes all of America
>EU continues to arrest people who complain about the invasion online during the take over
>>75987631
>Therefore, while Parliament can amend and reject legislation, to make a proposal for legislation, it needs the Commission to draft a bill before anything can become law.
A parliament that can't draft new legislation is fucking useless. The Executive dictates the law.
>>75987770
The president only appoints judges and members of his cabinet. Nothing in the US is comparable to the insanity of the European Commission which has legislative initiative and is made up of completely unelected people who have no accountability to the people.
>>75987468
>unelected, unaccountable, and dangerous.
What about your attorney general? She can at least bankrupt anyone through legal means. What about the people running the IRS who can audit? Did you vote for any of them, moron?
Those, unlike the European Commissioner, have real power.
>>75980188
Fantastic. There is a difference between our president working for interests and interests working for him.
Just more proof that even when he starts taking big money he belongs to none of them.
>>75982013
This the CIA needs to be cleansed. The results are shit plus they are probably infected with big money in their ears.
>>75988072
None of them have the power to enact or propose legislation. They are purely executive functions with the power to enforce existing law.
>>75988030
You're an idiot who doesn't know how his own government works.
>>75980188
Sounds good, but too little too late.
>>75988190
This is not an argument. Legislative powers in the US federal government are purely the domain of congress and both houses have been elected by the people since the early 1900s. This is not true in the EU and I think that is un-democratic.
>>75987628
That could be a good point, but on the other hand not that many countries are going to bend the knee unless not doing to has clear negative consequences to the relationship between US and the country in question, instead of just a loss of potential positive consequences.
Basically, many countries are willing to serve US interests when threatened, (while US tends to protect other countries, there is no entity protecting other countries from US), but most of them would otherwise rather remain neutral.
>>75988185
>They are purely executive functions with the power to enforce existing law.
You mean like they will totally enforce laws against Hillary Clinton?
And why are laws called "Obama Care" when he's not a member of the legislative branch? Proposing legislation is bullshit, any politician can do it anyway through his/her party members.
>>75982805
>>75988337
See >>75988388
You are brainwashed, m8. At least be honest when it comes to your own gov.
>>75988360
>unless not doing to has clear negative consequences to the relationship between US and the country in question
The negative consequence is the high likelihood of being invaded by Russia, which will be a lot less nice than America is.
>>75987799
Either way, the globalists always seem to win. Dissolving all of the world's states into three superstates is a huge victory for those seeking to form a global government.
>>75988432
Poland spends more. Always find that funny
>>75987631
Can you not see a problem with not voting on your leaders? That's bonkers m8y... Or do you enjoy emperor Merkel's tyranny
>>75980188
Washington warned us about entangling alliances.
We should've listened.
>>75988388
>>75988455
Okay you obviously have no idea how our government works. It's called "obamacare" because it was passed under his presidency and a major part of his platform. Obama didn't draft the legislation or anything of the sort. He just signed it when it finally came to his desk.
>>75980188
Based Don, fuck the bitches who want NATO protection, but aren't even willing to spend 2% of their GDP on defense.
>>75988483
Indeed. At least it wouldn't be a Lefties Global. Either way, it can all be avoided.
Pay up, or good luck. We won't Allie when Russia comes aknocking
>>75987424
We'll annex Canada and Latin America if worse comes to worse. Americas vs the world sounds pretty badass tbqh senpai
>>75988388
No one is denying our President is corrupt and has illegally accumulated massive amounts of power into the Executive. However, the EU system was designed to be like this from the outset. It took almost a century to subvert our system to the point where Obama could rule with an iron fist. Plus, there is always the "mexican stand off" because we have guns, and the military and police are full of patriots, Obama knows he can only go so far.
This is why we value our guns so much, if that threat didn't exist to Obama, he probably would have declared himself President for Life by now.
>>75988476
>which will be a lot less nice than America is.
Are you sure it would? To return to my original point, it is more beneficial for Russia to offer a peaceful way to invade and annex Europe than to fight for it. If US lets Russia conquer EU, it becomes weaker. Surrendering Europe like that would be incredibly stupid move, so US would have to come to its defense no matter who paid and what.
>>75988580
>Obama didn't draft the legislation or anything of the sort.
Are you crazy? He campaigned on it and then negotiated every bit of it.
>>75988580
To be fair, Obama went around Congress and granted 2 million illegals amnesty via EO, and no one said ANYTHING. The point is though, the EU was DESIGNED to have the power centralized in the Executive, our system was designed for the exact opposite.
>>75988781
An INVASION automatically makes Russia "less nice" than America.
>>75988781
We surrendered it before, and only got involved when attack. Would of sold arms to Germany more, but Britt kept sinking ships, so yeah. Have fun with The Bear. We have no need for Europe, and always tryed to be left alone anyway. Europe dragged us into this shit. We are getting out, while they continue to dig deeper
>>75988828
Do you not know what "draft" means? He didn't write the legislation genius.
>>75988903
I agree that executive power is too much, but Obama is still challenged on these things by a lot of people. That's the key difference; Texas and a bunch of states sue him all the time.
>>75988755
The EU is nowhere near one country the USA is. What the "EU government" administers is a glorified trade agreement. We'd need that anyway because it's cheaper to live that way.
>>75980188
We have been being taken advantage of by nations that are more than capable of handling themselves for many years and spend a lot of money cleaning up ones that don't deserve to exist. I agree 100% with the Don.
>>75989041
>The EU is nowhere near one country the USA is
I'm not saying it is, but again, you're comparing States under Federalism, to sovereign nations under Federalism.
>What the "EU government" administers is a glorified trade agreement.
Did you miss how they just turned the internet into a cyber police state? They're raising an EU army, too. What do you think they will do with that army?
>>75989030
>He didn't write the legislation genius.
That's a technicality. It contained what he wanted as he was directing the whole process.
>>75980273
FPBP
I love how the liberals from the early 2000s that preached how USA has no business in Iraq or to police the world but now they are the ones screaming for more international intervention.
>>75989017
Technically (((US))) has already invaded EU by getting so involved in every part of its infrastructure.
>>75989225
> What do you think they will do with that army?
That's obvious, fight off Russia in the Baltics and Poland. We can't really count on America anymore.
>>75989282
Yeah it had some shit in it he wanted otherwise he wouldn't have signed it. It also contained a bunch of other crap to get other democrats on board. Obama campaigned for it and was a public figure in support of it (like any president), but in the case of Obamacare he never stepped outside of his constitutional authority as president. Now some of his executive orders are complete bullshit; I'll give you that. It's still not even close to the EU though.
>>75989513
Because we can't count on you guys to pay for shit, or make it worth the lives it would cost. Not going to defend people who only bitch about us being there and bitching when we want to leave
>Europes not much to look at after you scrape it off your boots
>>75989513
Yeah, they totally won't use it to oppress member "nations".
>>75980188
See>>75981999
For people who take American security seriously.
>>75989846
In those countries that are really at risk no one is bitching, trust me.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/11/world/europe/army-copters-in-poland/index.html
But we are also trying to be militarily more like the USA. One big united army (hopefully) will be more impressive and respected than 28 small ones.
an
Good. Put up or shut up, rest of the world. If you don't like the way we're running things, how bout you step up to the plate every once in a while? Or have you gotten comfy in your position of "Can't/Won't be assed to do anything but will be more than happy to bitch about the people who can/will be"?
We're extremely generous as a country, believe it or not. Remember that 170 billion pound Greek bailout? The one that the whole of the EU was just hounding Greece over like it was a father who owed child support? The one that Greeks get memed on to this day over?
We're still owed money from world war fucking ONE. Britain still owes us around 225 billion pounds (the total we pumped into the brits and France would be about 1 trillion dollars in today's currency). We do not hound them to pay it back, and we don't twist their arm over it.
Granted, we're probably closer to Britain than any other country on the planet.
>>75980188
I can't fucking wait to leave these fuckers in the dust. I can't wait until every smug, smarmy Europoor realizes that they're now easy pickings for the Russians once we pack up all our shit and fucking leave. Then, I hope we get an alliance with Russia and help them take back the Jew puppet-state of Ukraine.
We've protected you niggers since the end of the Cold War, and you've done nothing but mock us the whole time for not spending enough on nigger gibs programs. Get ready Europoors, your arrogance has damned you far too many times.
Lele all the Americucks actually believe that the us is the only thing keeping this world safe and clean.
You guys can't even handle your own shit, you can't even handle the didnu's. Stop acting like america is the greatest force in the world while you guys can get bombed flat just as easily as any other country.
Each day that i roam through /pol/ i just see Americans boasting about America while quite literally its the wordt first world country you can find yourself in.
>WAKE ME UP INSIDE
>>75990862
Brussels' next allahu ackbaring is already in the works. Don't count on our seasoned counter-terrorist operatives who've been helping you faggots anymore. You're fucking doomed.
>>75990862
Belgium is barely even a country. Enjoy life without big daddy USA protecting you.
>>75990286
>berniebro
>taken seriously
ahahahahaha
>>75990862
>Be Belgian
>get bombed
>>75991042
>>75991125
>>75991200
It's probably an Arabian Belgian. Ignore the troll.
>>75991042
Lele your crap team didn't do shit in europe. You guys literally believe that you are helpih us in fighting terrorism? May i remind you that ALL OF THIS SHIT started because of your sockpuppet Bush?
And you guys can't back off that easily. What do you think just saying 'bye bye, is gonna do it xd? There are so many organisations, treaties,... That bound America to europe and europe to america that its stupid! Americans are literally the most stupid people on this planet right after niggers
And no one ever ask why Russia want to invade Europe
For what exactly?
>>75991294
I'm a full blood belgian caucasian based in reality not some fucking dreamworld like you
>>75980188
We'll still have an allegiance with places like the UK and Poland who actually spend money on their own military
>>75990286
>Bernie
>national security
>thinks global warming causes terrorism
>All these people wanting to side up with Russian and China
If Trump becomes president, I'm sure our human rights records will be up there with theirs
>>75991332
>And you guys can't back off that easily. What do you think just saying 'bye bye, is gonna do it xd? There are so many organisations, treaties,...
And how the fuck are you planning on enforcing those treaties?
>For what exactly?
If radical green energy fuckers take over Norway and turn the oil supply off.
America spends the most money on military. These countries who spend almost nothing on their military benefit from our spending. Why shouldn't they pay?
It's because liberals want handouts! They always want handouts. They don't realize that someone always has to pay.
>>75991332
Top fucking kek, you actually believe that Mudslimes weren't entering your country before the Iraq War? You cucks have been bending over for sandniggers for decades now. It was bound to happen due to your faggot policies on sandnigger immigration.
>>75980188
> How do you feel about our first mobster president?
Now Trump has all my support. If he would do this, then all "ex"USSR piss-poor commies along with shitskins would have to shut their rotten fabian speakholes, when they address Russian people.
I have never seen american president, that have proactively done so much for Russian nation.
Any Russian man should look for proofs for this information and if it`s real, from this moment on we absolutely must support Trump.
>>75991407
I just hope you guys take back the Zionist puppet state of Jewkraine.
>>75991780
>>75991780
>if you ally with someone you endorse every policy they have and copy them in every way
No one wants to side with China, where did you get that shit?
>>75991415
You sound like a butthurt Ahmed to me.
>>75992026
No i'm saying Trump is going to be a fucking tinpot despot, you idiot
Based Donald "Bada Bing" Trump
>>75991780
free speech is dead in europe now. nearly every civilized country has taken human rights out behind the proverbial shed and shot it.
>>75992001
Russia is one of the only nations, maybe the only one that supports Trump over Hillary.
>>75982453
An armed society is a polite society.
>>75982453
Anyone who thinks this isn't inevitable is a retard. Nuclear weapons aren't going away. The liberal fantasy of a nuclear disarmed world will never pass because they are the final line of defense and the great equalizer of nations. It's absolutely ridiculous for us to maintain a stance of global disarmament as more and more countries obtain them and while we continue to invade lesser nations arbitrarily.
It's not feasible to keep our strategy of bullying and invading everyone into trade and currency agreements going.
>>75992239
And all the countries are supporting who they think will be best for THEM, not for the people of the United States.
>>75992239
Prior to this it was only memes. Now we must act. You have my full support if you need anything for Trump election.
>bring all soldiers home
>high tariffs on all imports
>tighten immigration system dramatically
The world would fucking fall apart and we would be just fine.
>>75989316
If only there wasn't that awful tatoo. Also the belly ring should go.
>>75980496
This. The USA has no allies. We just want to scrape the barrel
>>75992001
Its real, he wants to dissolve NATO also.
>>75992544
You and your government are wrong about Trump. He will not be so easy to buy.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/trump-on-barrel-rolling-russian-plane-at-a-certain-pointyou
>>75992544
Alright, if I can think of any reason we would need 10 slaves squatting around in tracksuits, I'll give you a call.
>75986325
Please cite that passage in the constitution
Also these arent fucking vagrants we're demanding dance in the street for pocket change, they're our "allied" countries who are coasting on America suppementing their military budget
It would be wise of them to pay
>>75992527
Well - anglos have the whole fabian society with unlimited funding to push socialism everywhere. I think Trump supporters could use some Russian support to push back. Although our resources are limited, but I believe we can help.
>>75992807
Allrighty then.
>>75992919
>its le anglos causing trouble
Time to turn off RT, Vlad.
Right wing mercenary divisions when?
>>75992986
fucking hell I knew it was bad just. just. not this bad
I'd rather no countries pay us and just get their own damn military, but getting paid like mercenaries is better than being a useful cuck that does it for free.
>>75992775
We do not need to buy anyone. Commies should pay if they want to attack us. Today they live on EU-welfare and are attacking us for free from the protection of NATO borders.
It`s never too early for them to start paying for their anti-Russian politics or shut the fuck up.
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>>75980188
Do it Don. DO IT! I'm sick and tired seeing my represented licking USA's asshole every time they need to fight """"""""""terrorrists""""""""""
>>75990354
Then you just have to work together, and not back out last minute. Better be a Strong EU, or else you'll see that Army break apart and defend themselves.
>All for themselves and themselves for their nation
Usualy how it goes when war dose happen in Europe, or they pick allies that can in no way, reach them. I truly hope you guys can finally take care of yourselves.
And those that Really need our help, then, should pay up. If they can't, guess they will have to repriortize how they spend their money
>>75992986
>include white hispanics
>white hispanics
>>75993390
> if they want to attack us
What is this bullshit? You are the only ones annexing land and threatening countries.
>>75993549
>>75980188
Who are these "allies" and what are they doing for us?
>>75980362
>t. Gary Johnson
>>75993607
> You are the only ones annexing land
Annexing absolutely not enough land. This is Russian land. It was Russian for at least 3 centuries. It was made into ukrainian by soviets. And Ukraine today bombs ethnically Russians citizens with fucking artillery.
All because EU-socialists have nato protection paid by USA and can invest into ukrainian bombs ("ex"soviet niggers cant buy bombs themselves - they are africa-poor), in anti-Russian shilling in media and in welfare "look these niggers live better, than Russia, this is because they are part of progressive EUSSR! Kill more barbaric Russians!".
Literally.
>>75983310
South Vietnam.
>>75988432
>Canada
Leaves getting lazy cause they border America
>>75980188
>us creates wars and coups
>once out control those threat its allies
>hey guys, you gotta pay for some "help"
The most Jewish country ever.
Fucking delete yourselves.
>>75994411
Putin invaded that country with thousands of troops and tanks. That's what they are shooting at and not the fucking civilians.
Respect the borders of other nations.
>>75980188
He always brings up that you need to consider walking out of a deal when talking about this.
This is very important to not get into the stale conformity we have now.
>>75983662
he's right achmed western europe and U.S. has had a shaky relationship at best, theres no way we we will drag ourselves to self genocide as your people seem to be doing so willingly
>>75992578
This
>>75988172
>>75982013
>/pol now considers itself to be the ultimate master of foreign policy and intelligence
Hilarious. Never would've thought that a bunch of edgy basement dwellers would one day better the USA's most selected group of extremely high IQ smirky fucking Littlefinger faggots in their field of expertise.
>>75998211
USA's recent foreign policy "experts" have all been awful.
