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>>75969951
These threads sure are nice and aren't off-topic or stupid at all.
/Catholic/ reporting in.
Some more music that I tend to enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAzlKz8OmUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsA3J_3kEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZkekS8NQU
>>75970385
Oops, fuck, I wanted to put this linjk
https://youtu.be/E0wfpEzLEr0
>Implying that the body politic of Christianity isn't relevant to /pol/
>>75969951
/footkissers/ report in
>>75969951
there is only kek, lord of chaos.
>>75970430
reminder that templars were heretics and to enter they had to spit on the cross and jesus
>>75969951
That either the book of wisdom, nor Ecclesiasticus, nor Judith, nor Tobit, nor the pastor, not the Maccabees, are esteemed canonical" John of Salisbury
>>75970476
But these aren't talking about the political implications of amything. You just circlejerk about your stupid superstition. And, fuck, it's Christians who encourage mass-immigration and refugees.
Love to you my brothers in faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
>>75970503
You have no power here.
>>75970654
I love Poland so much
I'm gonna put my two cents in the "do we take morality from the bible" debacle.
I think we do take morality from the bible. I believe that every society takes morality from everything, be it the quaran in Syria or the bible in America, and I believe it shapes our societies. I believe the bible to be the amalgamation of generations of societal morality, morals seeping into the bible as it was written by societies, which we use as guidelines and standers, love your neighbor and keep slaves. This is the part where we take morality from our modern views, instead of following the bible word for word we pick and choose what we like, love your neighbor and don't have slaves. Places like iraq of prime examples of how religion warps our morality, if we didn't take morality from holy books then they would turn out like us, but they don't. They use their holy book as a guideline and veer from there. Atheists who adamantly oppose the bible oppose societies growing for the better.
T. a atheist
>>75970647
>It's Christians who encourage mass-immigration.
>>75970725
really?
No power you say.
>>75970503
PRAISE KEK
TRUE GOD
>>75970749
>Atheists who adamantly oppose the bible oppose societies growing for the better.
Just remember that apocrypha isn't canonical biblically, so its alright if atheist disregard them.
>>75970901
Ah! My poor Christian eyes! :((
>>75970779
>other people do it
>that means we don't
Wow, you've proved to me that the Church does not bring in immigrants and "refugees". Good job
>>75970901
>>75970864
>>75970803
>>75970385
>>75970779
>not christian
>not lgtbtbb
>still don't support rapefugees
what am i then?
christianity is jew faggotry that was made to have more mass appeal. why the hell would i believe in some fairy tale that fails to resolve the obvious problem of god not saving the jews from the romans
he had already appeared before them and had used a human to free them from egypt why go through all that all over again?
why not defeat the greatest military of the time in a show of force? or preform a miracle and hide them from danger. why didnt he have the romans wander the desert for 40 years looking for them? motherfuckers walking in circles and shit be all old when they find them
>>75971072
Can you honestly say you're like most Germans?
Most of your people are brainwashed by leftist propaganda with a hint of fedora-shit.
>>75969951
was abrahm the first lying jew in history?
>>75971126
>obvious problem of god not saving the jews from the romans
Why would God save a backstabbing stubborn people who lost their grace and broke their covenant?
>>75970901
Satan is wearing the cross of St. Peter
kek
Are St. Augustine's Confessions a good place to start with Christian theology? Other than the Bible, of course.
>>75971267
I had the same feeling brother
“We address a testimony from books, though not canonical, yet published for the edification of the Church.“ Pope Gregory the Great when discussing about 1 Maccabees.
>>75971282
Yes, " What is written in the Book of Judith the Jews are truly said not to have received into the canon of Scripture." And speaking of other books of the same class " They are not found in the canon which the people of God received, because it is one thing to be able to write as men with the diligence of historians, and another as prophets with divine inspiration; the former pertained to the increase of knowledge, the latter to authority in religion, in which authority the canon is kept."
However, Tomas Aquinas is better or Nicholas of Lyra.
>>75971217
>Why would God save a backstabbing stubborn people who lost their grace and broke their covenant?
Because that's how it always went before?
It's like a cycle with them; he tells them "you guys are great, I love you guys, we're going to do great things" and things are good for a while but then they fuck up so he lets be enslaved or some shit for a while and then he gets them out of it and the cycle starts again. That's how it always went and how he said things would always go, why did he change that?
>>75971282
Go for it, man.
>>75970647
No that's the secular and SJWs, we southern Baptists want a wall
>>75971282
This book will hit you hard...
>>75971612
So everybody (including Gentiles) could be saved/come to God
>>75970749
Like the days of Noah shall it be before the return of the son of man.
>>75971724
Dużo ludzi chodzi do kościóła w Polsce?
>>75971612
>Because that's how it went before?
If you read the Old Testament, God said that if they broke his covenant they would be cursed, as they are today to wander the earth.
>Deuteronomy 28:64-66
The Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life.
>>75969951
The indifference of good men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to5eOs8VRuY
"And to you all, clergy and laymen, the books to be revered from the old and New Testaments are these: Moses' book of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua Son of Nun, Judges and Ruth, I-IV kingdoms, II Chronicles, II Ezra, Book of Job, I book of Psalms, III Solomon, XII Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel." Catholicos Sion I Bawonetsi in 768AD in the Council of Partav, Canon XXIV.
No apocrypha allowed!
Why is there no real evidence of Arche Noah at the Hill Ararat?
Why is the Stone of Jacob just a scam?
WHY?
>>75973086
Welcome back Austrian.
>>75973131
Hello can you give me answers too?
>>75973086
jews
REMINDER
>>75969951
Fuck off, your 'god' is helping no one. The EU is basically 1984.
>>75973275
Here is a list of geographical locations which all share strikingly similar stories about a world flood.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
You would think there would be variety, but there is not.
The Sumerians are the earliest recorded with this story, and it's almost identical to the ones that the Native Americans told, as well as the Chinese.
This suggests that SOMETHING must have happened, possibly regarding a great flood where God/The gods were angry
I want to start reading the bible again, but I don't want to just read from beginning to end. Anyone have a recommended reading plan/ guide to follow?
Christianity is Cuck™: The religion
>>75973595
Matthew, Luke, 1 Corinthians, Romans and Galatians
In that order.
I recommend listening to awesome music while reading.
Or gregorian chants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWdSi0Xw4u0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnaL2_oCr9s
>>75973595
Read the Book of Romans first
Christianity is "If you kill your enemies - they win" the religion
>>75973921
forgot pic
>>75973921
Have you read the Bible?
Christ forbids you to resist evil:
Matthew 5:39
But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also;
>>75973961
Read ecclesiasties 3
>>75973584
I dont refuse that there was a bis flood at this time
But god mentioned it clearly in genesis that noah stranded with the arche at the hill ararat which is in turkey nowadays but they didnt find even a piece of wood there?
Also whats with the stone of jacob? Why brought they a stone across the world to england which is a fake?
>>75974064
That's talking about insults not physical assault
Christianity is a religion of good goyim
>>75973840
Any particular reason why? Just curious, it seems like a good path though .
>>75974167
> Slap
> not physical assault
Sure buddy, totally open to interpretation, you totally got me here.
You christians are a joke.
religion is neither politics or news
take it to >>>/his/ fellas
Jesus is a refugee, goyim
>>75974132
>Didn't even find a piece of wood there?
There are two possibilities just off the top of my head
1: The Gopher wood they used to make the Ark eventually fell apart and scattered over a couple hundred years.
2: They took the ark apart after landing on the mountain to help create new shelter and housing so they could go and tend animals again.
I'm gonna guess it was a mixture of both.
>>75969951
helena santos doing the usual friday blowjob
it says vivky because shee believes that she is that raped girl fom pthc videos
also she is member of every tor hidden service you can even find videos ofher abusing children, she is never arrested because she pays the police to live free, (i supose)
http://www.xvideos.com/video8430622/vicky_bezzuqra_blowjob
>>75974354
it is also a lie
>>75974430
Yeah, totally bro, or it i just a bullshit.
I mean, yeah, sure, all of the earths animals just fit inside a boat, build in a bronze age.
You are a joke.
Please provide evidence that yours and your only is the one and tru god... and that he actually exist.
Protip: you can't
Why? Because he is not real. Grow up for fucks sake.
>>75974574
>Spams in literally every Christian Thread
You're the most angsty, easily triggered Czech I've ever seen.
>>75974305
In the Book of Job, ( forgot the direct verse) he says " they insult me, they strike my face" and in Jewish slang in the time period, an insult would be equated to striking someone on the cheek, your insulting a mans Honor. Jesus isn't talking about self defense or military service, but Romans 13 talks about civic duty as a Christian
>>75974278
Because it takes you through the Gospel, then it takes you through what the Apostles went through, and Paul
Hey guys, I will tell you a secret - magic is not real.
>>75974773
Yeah buddy, Im totally triggered.
>>75974775
Sure, I forgot how open to interprettation the holy word of god is. Seems like you can interpret anything the way it suits you.
For example Cain might have been the first bull, fucking Eve after he killed her only son and totally cucked adam. I mean, who else could he fuck, right?
How do you like this interpretation?
Even budhists have more balls then christcucks.
>>75975152
If you understand context, than its hard to make rediculuous interpretations, but if a non believer reads the bible, they are not going to understand it.
any Brothers familiar with Dr. Bob Wilkin of Grace Evangelical Society?
i found him while looking at some of Dr. James White's debates, and i have to say, he has persuaded me on some very important points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOHg1FhyGOs
another great preacher i found on youtube, after further examining the "Free Grace" debate, is Ralph Yankee Arnold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEhzT1nktyU
AWESOME stuff, and i highly encourage all of you guys to check them out!
Did you know that religions evolved over time?
>>75975413
Did you ever see the James White vs David Silverman debate?
>>75975364
So good that god made his message so that people can't understand it. Wow, takes my breath away. =D Sounds like he is kind of a dick.
>>75975416
no, tell us more
>>75975304
Everyone has more balls than Christians
>>75975536
Well if you understood total depravity, than you would know that a man can't seek God without his assistance, because we are born naturally rebellious to him.
Did you know that it is a moral duty of christians to accept the refugees?
>>75975533
yes, i have. i think i have seen pretty much al of White's debates at this point. at least, all of the ones hosted on youtube.
what did you think of the Silverman debate?
>>75969951
What are your thoughts on Anglicans
>>75969951
Better catch him now, Ho-Oh is going to use recover.
>>75975860
Silverman got destroyed
>>75975715
>we are born naturally rebellious to him.
How? If God is omnipotent how can there be things contrary to his will?
>>75975715
Good that god made usrebelious agains him It is almost like he wants us to end up in hell, how loving on him.
And yet, you don't see that your religion is a totally made up bullshit
>>75975888
Angelicans are the only Protestants who can understand Apostolic succession so that's pretty cool.
I don't have too much of a problem with them, same with most other protestants.
Daily reminder that god is the ultimate source of all evil.
>>75976010
i live in a italian catholic town, and if i ever tell anyone that my family are Anglicans i always get strange looks i wonder why
>>75975952
Good that god made us rebellious agains him It is almost like he wants us to end up in hell, how loving on him.
You're responsible for your own actions friendo.
and when you burn in the lake of fire and scream and cry.
You will have no one to curse but yourself.
You will finally know what it is to be truly cucked.
>>75976024
You have post proof or evidence otherwise you sound untrustworthy
>>75975907
speaking of atheists getting #REKT, have you seen the William Lane Craig vs. Christopher Hitchens debate?
more than any other of Hitchens' debates, i think that one really demonstrated that Hitchens, though an absolutely brilliant rhetorician, is really bereft of logic in his argumentation for the atheist position. "all sizzle, no steak," as they say.
>>75976097
Probably just because you aren't one of them.
But theologically it doesn't make much sense to me personally, because if you accept Apostolic Succession, why not accept the successor of Peter?
>>75973921
>Christianity is "If you kill your enemies - they win" the religion
Revelation 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
God hates violence. I'm sorry that you feel that the genocide of several billion people is the solution. We are to be patient.
Why do you guys specifically believe in Christianity though? How can you believe in a book written by man, not God himself?
I'm a Deist and I think that it's the best religion for those who do not believe in organized religion. Even the founding fathers of the US were Deists.
>>75976156
>You have post proof or evidence otherwise you sound untrustworthy
but he posted a picture!
Christianity is pretty much the best thing ever, and I have an immense amount of pity for those who are not wise enough to understand this.
>>75976209
Honestly im not sure, i feel its just more of a loyality thing
>>75976386
Oh well, something to think about.
>>75976321
>Why do you guys specifically believe in Christianity though?
We don't believe in a religion, we believe in the Word of God, which is truth.
Why don't you believe the truth?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+1&version=KJV
>>75976473
yeah
>>75975931
he can create things that can go against his nature, but his plan or will nobody can go against
>>75975952
What says that God wants everyone to Go to Heaven. If he did and people went to hell, than he's not much of a God.
>>75976564
Jesus bin laden is that you?
>>75976531
Yeah but the thing is, when a normal book has as many contradictions as the Bible, it's seen as not credible.
How can I read a book, which has known contradictions, and take anything in there as fact?
>>75976322
>>75976322
What about evidence of gods existence ;)
Let me ask you this: How can anything exist that god didnt allow to?
>>75976272
Jesus retconed these. Also those are just metaphores. Jesus preached love.
>>75976188
I haven't, but there is a really Good one, look up Sye Ten Bruggencate and Dustin Segers UNC G debate, there is some good presupp apologetics
>>75976669
there are 0 contradictions that is just a atheist meme
>>75976598
I thought he is pure love?
Bt this sounds like he is more of a dick.
Everybody knows that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.
>>75976785
I just want you to remember one thing.
That you will burn in hell.
Your flesh will be seared from your bones. God will look upon you, a whiney and pouty edgy child and see that you were a blasphemer who tried to disrupt others.
and he will throw you into fire where you will never die.
The WORM does not die. The FIRE is not quenched, and you will live in it for all eternity.
and you will not have Love. You will not have Hope.
and all your mockery here about it will be for nothing.
That is the legacy of your cuckoldry.
REMINDER:
This is what cucktians actually believe in.
>>75976669
>contradictions
There are no contradictions in it. Only things which you don't understand or believe can be true.
I've got a notepad somewhere with some of these things addressed and it's always rewarding in faith to give God the benefit of the doubt.
Someone isn't good at maths can't approach a maths professor and say 'look at your huge complex equations, they are bullshit and they can't be true because they contradict each other', because they have no frame of reference or understanding. The maths professor would simply look over each part, and try to explain it's function and how the equation is correct, yet the person who was ignorant wouldn't accept the answer.
>>75976971
>threatening people with something they don't believe in
You'll drown in the Styx for that!
>>75976932
Do you have a verse that says he is pure love? I would say merciful and Gracious, and he is loving to me, but I got nothing on all Love
>>75976932
Is a Judge a dick when he sentences a murder to die by the rope?
You will smell, see, and feel death for the rest of eternity if you don't repent.
and it will be Justice.
>>75976785
you need to be more specific did you mean the forbiten tree ? i think its he was created just to test the humanity if they trust and hear of the word of god
and if you speak about luzifer he was a fallen angel so it was luzifers will not to serve god (non serviam)
>>75976971
The Seperation from God is the true punishment, I don't know if the Fire is real
>>75977044
The River of Styx is as real as you and me
Do you want to test it?
Go ahead, be my guest. Defy God and blaspheme his name, and then die. Take the gamble and discover whether or not your soul is immortal.
>>75976971
Im so fucking afraid right now. No, pleaso not the hell fire, please, Im going to repent, I swear. Lol.
Do you have some evidence for these outrageous claims?
You are such a joke anon, I will just ask for forgivnes on my death bed just to be sure =D
Also, sure good goy, I will be totally punished after my dead, no need to resist me now. Turn the other cheek, goy. Do you want to wash my feet? =D
Cuckoldry is a chritianity's legacy.
>Unironically discussing theology on a Japanese cartoon forum with advertisements for Japanese sex toys
>>75976321
>Why do you guys specifically believe in Christianity though?
GREAT question, and, for me, this is one of the best proofs for the identity of God:
all religions are essentially a system of rules for conduct, by obedience to which one might become "good enough for God." Christianity, however, is the exact OPPOSITE of a religion. Christianity cedes the point that Man could never be "good enough" for a Perfectly Holy and Righteous God. God is Perfect and cannot look on sin.
we reason that, if God exists, He must be BOTH Perfectly Just AND Perfectly Merciful. but there appears to be an irresolvable conundrum here: if God is Perfectly Just, then He must punish each and every sin. however, if He is Perfectly Merciful, He must forgive each and every sin.
God solves the problem by, in infinite Love, taking on human flesh and fulfilling perfectly the moral Law on our behalf - something which we could never do. He then takes the rightfully earned punishment for the transgression of the law, and punishes each and every sin, taking the punishment for those sins HIMSELF, and imputing to those who would trust in Him the Righteousness that is solely His.
in this way, God "balances the books of the moral economy," so to speak, and remains both Perfectly Just AND Perfectly Merciful.
Christianity is therefore NOT a "religion;" not in its true form, at least. it is actually THE anti-religion, and Jesus Christ is the greatest anti-religionist Who ever lived. note how He spoke to the religious of His day, and the absolute contempt He had for their self-righteous hypocrisy.
i often bring up that old Sesame Street skit when people ask me this question - do you remember it? "one of these kids is doin' their own thing / come on, can you tell which one?"
> How can you believe in a book written by man, not God himself?
they were physically written down by men, but the men who wrote the books of the Bible did so under Divine inspiration
>>75977307
i wonder whats your moral fundament is after all.. its not the 10 commandments i guess
>>75976971
This is exactly why I love these threads so much =D you christfags are so lame =D
>>75977138
> Infinite punishment
> finite crime
> god is loving and just
You what mate?
>>75977245
God is a small dicked cuck.
If not, I doble dare him to strike me with lightning right here where I sit.
>>75977307
I'll pray to God that the Holy Spirit works in you, and gives you a changed mind, because when that happens, you will eat your fedora
>>75977307
Think about all the serial killers, the murderers who laugh and mock even before they are put to death.
That is what you are like.
You are a fool who wants to risk his soul.
and when you die, you will discover the truth, and you had better hope that there is simply nothingness. You had better hope that there is no God.
>Mark 9:48
Where the worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.
>>75977245
>The River of Styx is as real as you and me
Isn't acknowledging other religious myths a no-no for Christcucks according to your 10 commandments?
>>75976598
>he can create things that can go against his nature, but his plan or will nobody can go against
This doesn't make any sense. So, he wants certain people to not do what wants? But then they're still doing what he wants them to do. If it's wll his plan how are we making choices? Tjis is so stupid.
>>75977245
>The River of Styx is as real as you and me
No way anon, no way
Also no lighning, that means that god is a little bitch and he is scared of me. (see me daring him here >>75977493)
Did you faggots want Huckabee or frothy Santorum to be president ?
>>75977493
That's right.
God is JUST.
And you will receive Justice.
Either repent or face the consequences of your actions.
Actions which YOU take responsibility for.
You will pay penance for every sin that you refuse to repent.
and to think that all it took to be saved was for you to humble yourself, repent and say "God, forgive me. I repent"
>>75977493
If you die in your sinful nature, you will still be sinning in the after life, so you won't stop sinning, people in hell will be lying and cursing God, so to say finite crime, kinda doesn't make much sense
>>75977532
Are you aware that prayer does absolutely fucking nothing? =D
>>75977539
Do you have some evidence that there are, in fact, souls?
Also, your god is a limp dicked pussy, how do you feel about it?
>>75977586
Oh no, Hades is very very Biblical.
It's just the Greek word for Hell you know.
Luke 16:23
"In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.
>>75977706
>God is JUST.
>>75977624
We make choices, but without Gods influence, we will choose to do wrong. God can create people with a certain will
>>75977780
Don't worry. You will get to find out for yourself when you die in misery and squalor.
So, shitpost away.
>>75977780
And you know this how?
>>75976971
What good does anger bring us? What good does anger bring you? Ignore him or slowly teach him the ways of Christ.
>>75977835
>I blame all my misery and suffering on God, it's his fault I can't get a gf
>The world is so hard because of God, it's his fault that some people choose evil
You're a Fedora alright. Unable to accept authority and hierarchy of the Divine God.
>>75971201
Abraham was not a Jew. He wasn't even an Israelite. He may have been Hebrew, but that is questionable. He was a Chaldean. His people were from Sumeria and they worshipped Sumerian Gods.
IF anybody could be considered THE FIRST, it would be Melkezedik, the Priest of the Most High God in Salem.
>>75977493
Hell is not a place of eternal torment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swT4Yc2eW1Q
>>75977706
infinite punishment for finite crime is just how?
I will receive nothing, since you know what, there is no god =D
There will be no consequences, because there is no god.
And you are a fool to beieve otherwise =)
God is evil, unjust, weak pussy that never did anything good for you not anyone else. Mainly because he is not existent, but also because he is a dick.
>>75977724
Sure buddy, Im so terrified right now.
God is pussy though, he won't do shit cause he is afraid of my power.
>>75977995
I actually don't usually talk about hellfire. Ever.
But he really was asking for it, he's been spamming threads for days, so I figured I'd give him a taste of his own medicine. At a certain point, people need to be told that their soul is in jeopardy, and it can be left at that.
>>75978010
>strawman
Ad hominem derived from strawman.
Anyway, can someone shoop the JUST hair on this picture?
>>75978063
ok was he the first lying hebrew?
>>75977780
>>75978101
>>75978110
>Infinite punishment for finite crime
Actually, your decisions are infinite. They affect your life, and the lives of others forever.
So that really makes no sense.
>>75977011
judging by your apparent collection of super-witty, hilarious /b/-tier infographics seeking to demonstrate some supposed irrationality of belief in God, you seem to be - like most other atheists - inordinately interested in a being that you claim doesn't exist.
that always cracks me up about atheists. if my next dor neighbor was a schizophrenic and claimed that miniature leopards with goat heads infested his body and lived under his skin, i certainly wouldn't feel compelled to either start collecting info about miniature leopards with goat heads, or make it my purpose to disprove their existence.
talk about protesting too much... sounds like you have psychological discomfort with the concept of God. you're no more rational than my hypothetical neighbor.
ut, since it my duty to do so, i will tell you that His Love and Forgiveness are Free for the asking. there is no greater Love than to lay down one's life for one's friends.
>>75970580
Daily Reminder, Phillipe the Cuck created these false claims because he was a greedy kike.
>>75978110
Well I mean he hardened Pharos heart, and he can harden yours too, but the worst thing he can do is Give you over
>>75977889
Sure buddy, where is the evidence though?
Im so afraid of the invisible god that does literally nothing.
Perhaps he was never here in a first place.
>>75978066
The part "hell is not" is truth.
>>75978110
>knows the future
>gets angry about stuff that happens
And what if he gets angry because he knows he have to for the future to be brighter?
>>75978173
I know. I have seen him too. But his presence saddens me for what was done to someone where they seek to annoy and mock followers of a religion. He only seeks our anger, but perhaps we should try to understand his pain as well.
>>75976136
You didn't actually counter his argument, you know. If God didn't want us to be rebellious, why did he make us that way?
Fortunately, because God loves you He doesn't want you to be away from Him.
You should know several things; first that He did not create eternal separation for YOU, He created it to remove the fallen angels which caused His children to die, and caused thousands of years of suffering and strife. That's how much He loves you; He created a place to completely separate your enemies from you and Him, so you can live with Him for eternity in peaceful bliss.
Your enemy hates you and doesn't want you to be with God, it's literally trying to cause as much collateral damage as possible, and to remove as many people from God as it can, out of malicious spite. It's successfully blinded you, and at this rate you will not be allowed to be with God, because you have rejected the truth for a lie.
Secondly, the end place that God wants for you is eternal bliss which means anything that is not a part of that is going to be eternal separation. There are only going to be 2 places; God's kingdom and the lake of fire. Even HELL is going to be thrown in the lake of fire, none of God's children will even remember that place. DEATH is going to get thrown in there too. God does not want death to exist. If you choose to be a part of these things, how can you be with God? You cannot turn West at a crossroad and head East at the same time. You have to go to one of two places. With Him or without Him.
God loves you, and doesn't want you to die or suffer or be away from Him.
Why are you rejecting Him? He is literally the best father ever and doesn't ever change. You are missing out, and it's very sad.
>>75977138
>Is a Judge a dick when he sentences a murder to die by the rope?
No, because the judge did not create everything and know from the beginning of the universe that thay guy would commit crime. This comparison is retarded.
>>75978238
Army SOF Chaplain's Assistant reporting in.
>>75978456
I understand his pain. I'm not apathetic at all.
Anyway, it's not like he's going to stop.
>>75978426
When the Authors are saying God is Angry, it's more about demonstrating his wrath, not an anger like me and you have
>>75978493
>If God didn't want us to be rebellious, why did he make us that way?
sorry for butting in here, but why do you believe that God made us rebellious?
>>75978392
God is called a father for a reason. He doesn't protect his children from all harm and all evil by putting them in a safe space. He allows them to explore and learn. Otherwise instead of having children he'd have a bunch of stupid doe eyed puppies.
>>75978187
>>75978639
Original sin
>>75978493
Oh that's easy.
Free will.
If God wanted he could have created us as mindless drones who only do good and can never make their own decisions.
Instead, God gave us free will, he made us in his own image. He doesn't want us to rebel against him, but that is unfortunately a choice that some people will make.
>>75978236
Im totally crying in fear right now, sure. In your dreams. Do you alo hear the gods voice in your head?
>>75978345
Well, but I bet that he will just do the only thing he ever did - nothing.
>>75978275
Im not disproving anything. You don't have to disprove shit, which you would know if you had at least elementary school. Then again, if you had you would probably knew that all the earths animals could never fit to a bronze age boat...
I came here to laugh at your stupidity, your childish attempts to make any sense of a contradictory pile of crap that is a bible and how you are trying to exlain to yourself that you are not the most cucked religion on this planets surface.
And honestly, so far Im having a blast.
I'm having a crisis of faith here /b/ros.
As Christians we are told that we are made in god's image.
But now that modern forensic science has revealed that Jesus actually looked like pic related I can't identify with this at all as a white european man.
I don't look anything like the man pictured here so how could I have been made in his image?
And can you imagine that thing following me around everyday with his wiry hair and brown skin?
>>75978493
God gave us free will. With that free will comes the responsibility of conscious choice. Would you rather be a brainless automaton?
>>75970749
I think we take morality from nature and empathy. You see how someone reacts to your action. you like that person and your empathy should kick in and you will feel regret from said action. It caused someone you liked to have a reaction that you know when you have it it isn't a nice feel.
it's all feels and chemicals and some soul for good measure. everything is god and you don't want to dissapoint god(you).
>>75978746
>God gives us free will
>anything that happens is part of his cosmic 'plan'
>>75978746
so much this
>>75978618
Is he that underage NEET that never shuts up, or is that someone else?
>>75978426
And what he he is not real?
>>75978558
Except for hindu kids. Straight to hell with those.
>>75978674
Well, he has no children because he is not here. He never was. Your life is based on a lie.
>>75978859
Read Romans 1 starting at verse 18. Being given over is the worst thing he can do to. Not Just can God cast you into Hell, but if he just lifts a finger, he can have you destroy your life on earth
>>75978864
Easy. Hundreds of paintings and depictions of him were made in his time. Forensic science going back 2K years isn't as accurate as eyewitness accounts.
>>75978694
Thanks man.
>>75978864
Probably b8...but
>Believing that this is even a reconstruction
They didn't find Jesus's dead remains and use that to re-create him.
They just put together a random animation of what the average hebrew in Israel looked like and said that was what Jesus MIGHT have looked like.
I would like to ask my fellow based Christians to join me in praying for the Trump supporters who were viciously attacked this week.
May God's will be with Trump as he does his best to save this nation from degeneracy. May God protect Trump and his supporters from harm.
Revelation 3:20 ESV / 151 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.
John 1:12-13 ESV / 112 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Proverbs 16:9 ESV / 709 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps.Proverbs 16:9
>>75978880
But Nature consumes the weak. If we make the argument of morality being based on nature, and other environmental/social ideas, it becomes subjective. Who's to say euthanizing kids with downs and autism is wrong? It's Nature's way.
>>75978746
Why can't we have free will without being rebellious?
>>75978639
If he created us, be must have created our traits/properties as well.
REMINDER:
Joseph "don't talk to my wife's son ever again" was the original cuck, cucked by the god himself, and is now worshiped by christians as a saint.
Saint Joseph the Cuck
>>75979046
No clue at all.
>>75978971
>Not knowing that time itself is relative.
>Not knowing that God exists outside of time
>Not knowing that the spiritual world exists outside of time.
Lucifer rebelled, but he did so outside of the realm of time itself, because the spiritual world is relative to eternity, not time.
Therefore, your decisions are not based simply on a series of events, they are based on your decisions, and yours alone.
It's not pre-destined, it's your choice to make.
>>75978864
It's more of a intellectual thing, like God, we like to create things like God does. And unlike the other Animals, we have the ability to use logic and Reason to understand Gods creation.
>>75979197
>Who's to say euthanizing kids with downs and autism is wrong? It's Nature's way.
That's why it isn't wrong. I love how Christcucks are the antithesis to most things /pol/, yet still feel the need to shit up this board despite having several boards to themselves.
>>75970503
copy of the original?
>>75979207
>Why can't we have free will without being rebellious?
Because some people, when given free will, choose to rebel.
>>75978231
I can see that you don't like Sandpeople of any type. I can assume that if those folks sprang from Abraham's loins, and doesn't currently worship the Blessed Savior, they are our enemy, and that we have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to hate them and to SPEAK OUR HATRED FREELY. I love America.
You poor Europeans. You're not allowed to hate anymore. You have to play nice or Mother Merkel and her EU will spank you.
>>75979150
Sure buddy, I double dare the almighty god to strike me down just now, right here, right now, to prove to you that he is just. If not he is a limp dicked cuck.
>>75979190
>calling god all day
>no one comes
could it be that he is just not there anon?
>>75979207
>Why can't we have free will without being rebellious?
Because that would made much more sense and god hates logic, anon.
>>75979087
Suspending disbelief in god long enough to assert he has no presence in our moral lives because evil exists and then saying "Lol but he isn't real" when confronted on it will get you kicked out of any decent debate hall.
You can't change the playing field of an argument you started on a premises implying he /was/ real.
>>75979342
>Being mad at Christian boards
>Not being mad about Australians posting niggerdicks every day
wew
>>75979419
Why do they rebel?
>>75973978
>Have you read the Bible?
Have you? I did when I was a naive kid. So much was hidde to me: Like Jesus as a revolutionary figure, the jewis sects and their beliefs, paulianism. Read "the sermon on the mound"
>>75979439
uhm what??? It was just a question. i dont feel hate for a nation or a religion. to be reall y honest. i just wanted to know if he was the first lying hebrew?cause the story with his wife claiming that it was his sister infront of the pharao is just curious.
>>75978740
>>75978740
>Original sin
God didn't create us rebellious. after completing the acts of Creation, He called all He made "good."
if the question is, "why did God allow us to rebel, if He Loves us so much?," then i would reply that, had He not, but chosen to micro-manage our activities and remove even the possibility of disobedience, then the charge against Him would instead be, "if God Loves, us, why is He a tyrant?"
the truth is that Love is most pronounced, most manifest when it is demonstrated to the un-Lovely. or, perhaps one can say it more precisely as this: without disobedience, we cannot ever understand the concept of forgiveness. sort of like some of these ultra-holier-than-though, self-righteous hypocrites who will go on and on about the "sin" of another, but claiming to only understand sin as hearsay, having no direct personal experience with it.
>>75979455
Well good luck then,
>>75973494
>06/03/16(Fri)14:39:49
>>75979455
>06/03/16(Fri)15:57:04
ebin troll friend
upvoted
>>75979489
>4chan
>decent debate hall
I swear that you christcucks are getting denser and denser. I bet thats because the smart ones already left.
He is not real anon. Never was.
>>75979585
Everyone does it for different reasons anon.
I don't understand all of their motives.
>>75974773
>You're the most angsty, easily triggered Czech I've ever seen.
He has a point that you cannot deny. I was raised a pentacostal. If i get it, you should too.
>>75979589
Matthew 5, I have
>>75979677
cheers mate
Did you washed some niggas feet today?
>>75969951
>muh wife's son
>muh kike on a stick
>muh passiveness
literally the religion of cucks
>>75979455
His patience with you can run out offcourse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrkHxc24DbQ
>>75979623
Well the truth is if you take God out of the picture, no one can objectively determine Good or evil
>>75979705
If you leave a big wooden boat in the middle of nowhere, it'll take a minimum of a few for it to decay, get torn apart and eventually turn to dust.
If people run across it within say, 200 or 300 years later, they'll probably tear it apart for its wood.
>>75979790
wow im so angry about this
this really makes me very angry
please stop this it makes me mad and angry
stop please
>>75979197
>Who's to say euthanizing kids with downs and autism is wrong?
It isn't wrong. Defects like that shouldn't live.
Christianity is destroying Europe ATM.
It will destroy USA soon.
Nowadays Christianity isjust a jewish tool for mass importing of africans.
>>75979197
can't you still love kids with downs and autism? is that not empathy kicking in when made to make a choice like that? empathy is why we care. those that don't have it, don't. it's how some people came to run this joint. different species have a wide range of this stuff. dogs are emphatic and survice off of that. all pack animals. a bug i dunno.
i dont think you understand the magnitude of gods deception lad. nature is still god.
>>75979623
But read Romans 1 we are naturally rebellious in our unrighteousness
>>75979510
I'm not mad at Christian boards. I'm mad at Christians flooding boards that aren't theirs.
On cripplechan there's both /christian/ and /christ/ and even here you have /his/ and /x/ but no, can't keep the shit where it thematically belongs.
>>75977150
Who told you that?
>>75979682
regarding the pic you posted, see:
>>75977421
again: Christianity, in its true form, is NOT "religion;" it is ANTI-religion in its truest form, and Jesus was the greatest anti-religionist Who ever lived.
but yes, religion IS indeed a very useful tool to keep people in line, and it is used for that purpose to incredible effect
>>75979928
Calm down anon, you can wash my feet if you want?
Do you have a fit gf? Im also a bit horny now, could use some pussy for some old ficki-ficki.
And remember good goy - DO NOT RESIST EVIL MEN!
>>75979247
> worshiped by christians as a saint.
>implying Christians worship saints, or are even supposed to
I put most of my attention on the red letters.
>>75980058
its my own intepretation after reading genesis
>>75970489
PRAISE KEK
KEK >>>>>>>>> KIKE
>>75979953
Everyone in Scandinavia is an atheist now, a couple years ago, fedoras were bragging about how secular Sweden was, so Christians are not responsible for them
>>75980090
Jesus was not.
Also, there is no god.
But at least you get something. Now please try to contemplate why you think lord Krishna is not real and we are almost there.
>>75980019
You can get arrested in Europe for street preaching, because it offends people. Christianity is politically incorrect
>>75980147
>Christian board
>Has advertisements for Japanese sex toys
>Community wants to genocide entire nations
wew lad
>>75980388
be more specific. where in europe and sources?
>>75980147
>le meme picture proves something
Might explain all the nigger dick threads however.
>>75980237
Well, america is so mighty and christian and how much did it help you? You are ruled by a jews, controled by SJW and you get beaten by spics and niggas on your own rallies. Christ is totally helping you.
Czech republic is almost 95% atheist and we have zero muslims and niggas and just a slight gypsy infestation.
>>75980446
Tony Miano was arrested in Britain because he said homosexuality was a sin.
>>75971282
> suggesting you need anything else but the bible
>>75979622
>cause the story with his wife claiming that it was his sister infront of the pharao is just curious
That wasn't a lie she is his sister, his half-sister. He spelt it out in the later story where he pulled that same shit again.
>>75980019
Friendly reminder. WWJD
>>75980420
The commandments in the new testament negate the ones in the old, there is nothing in the bible that states we should not commit ethnic cleansing.
>>75980484
>>75980420
Don't worry, God still loves you anons.
>>75980551
well what the fuck?? why don't they just press charges on every muslim saying the same shit in their shariapatrols?
>>75979702
Not what I meant, but I do admit I was unclear. You said that when some people are given free will, they choose to rebel. Why did God make it like this? Why can't people be given free will, without choosing to rebel?
>>75980538
Is it logical to say that everyone who claims to believe in Jesus, really does?
>>75969951
Chri*t=bastard, treacherous kike.
Repent now, sinners.
/pol/ is no longer a Christian board.
All christians are cucks.
If you want to fight cuckoldry, mass migration and SJWs, you must leave christianity in the abyss of the past.
REMEMBER: Christ teaches to NOT RESIST EVIL MEN!
>>75980622
Yes, because nothing says loving your enemies quite like murdering them by the thousands
>>75980660
>Why can't people be given free will, without choosing to rebel?
Because that's not how free will works.
>>75980660
>Why can't people be given free will, without choosing to rebel?
They can choose not to rebel.
Some just choose to rebel.
It's a choice anon.
>>75980785
Explain to me how free will works, then.
>>75980722
You can still love them while purging them, to be honest senpai. It just takes more faith
>>75980628
Please provide proof of that claim.
>>75980703
Interesting question. I think not. I think that for example in the USA, people will be peer-presurized to say that they believe even if they don't.
Your point?
>>75980638
I agree they should be consistent in their legal proceedings, but Jesus said that they will hate us, because they hate him
